Actually I think you've got it backwards. It would be best to focus on the Honeycomb tablet right now while there are very few apps, that way your app has more chance of being noticed.
If you're right... then every Honeycomb developer is doing it wrong.
I see what you're saying about the noticing your app, though. But, if you spend 500 hours developing an app... you really wanna sell that thing.
Right now... there aren't enough Honeycomb tablets out there... which translates into fewer potential customers.
However, there are plenty of iPad owners out there. If you make a great iPad app... it will get noticed eventually.
You'll still sell more iPads apps even if they are buried in the App Store... than you will if you were the only Honeycomb app in the Marketplace.
You're counting EACH BOOK as a separate APP? So should Apple add iBooks, Amazon's, B&N, and the lesser bookstores entire catalogs to their app count?
66 is, indeed, more than 20, but the author was asserting that in order for an app to qualify as a tablet app it had to be more than simply a phone app rendered bigger. I'm sure some of the tens of thousands of iPad-specific apps in Apple's store are just upconverted iPhone conten
Err...the poster did say that is how Apple counts it's apps. I have absolutely no idea if the poster is correct or not but if the poster IS correct, than I see no problem in the count (even though I believe e-books shouldn't be counted).
Err...the poster did say that is how Apple counts it's apps. I have absolutely no idea if the poster is correct or not but if the poster IS correct, than I see no problem in the count (even though I believe e-books shouldn't be counted).
Even if he is correct, he does not say how many of the 65000 iPad apps are books. I very highly doubt the same proportion as his Android tablet numbers. Even if 15000 are books that would still be 66 against 50000 for Android tablet vs. iPad apps.
If you all just kindly step over to the Android Market.
You will all see there are (using Apple metrics to count apps).
1. 66 Apps optimized for Honeycomb
2. 638 Featured books (that are not free)
3. 470 Free books
These ARE optimized for tablet experience and it totals over 1174 apps (using Apple's version of app definition... (148Appbiz currently reports that Iphone has Books - 56409 active Apps).
So clearly all the iPhone community lives in la la land. But thats alright, keep on doing so. It happened with the G1 and look where we are now. Looking at reality through distorted glasses doesn't change reality, just your perception of it.
Now, unlike Apple. Honeycomb games don't need any recoding to be optimized for a Tablet. So in reality Android tablets can make full use of all submitted Android apps, which by the way this week crossed 300K mark as per AndroidLib metrics, out of which 187K are active. Android adds 30K apps a month growing at 10% rate, while iPhone ecosystem grows under 5% a month and currently has 450K apps).
This year alone, this is another metric that the iOS ecosystem will surrender to Android.
Sorry to bust the bubble and I do realize most of you will rant against this.
Thats not a problem, its just reality.
I will be a little more giving to the iFan's. I predict Android apps will pass the iPhone in 2012, not in 2011 Of course sales have already suprassed the iOS phones.
A year from now there will be a dozen good Andriod tablets running Honeycomb + and probably for cheaper than the iPad. Again I predict the iPad will drop to number 2 and do so faster than the iPhone did.
Maybe Dan can spin some shiiiiite on that day for the iFan's so they wont feel so bad?? His drible is the best in the iFan blog world when it comes to the pure waste of electrons.
If you all just kindly step over to the Android Market.
You will all see there are (using Apple metrics to count apps).
1. 66 Apps optimized for Honeycomb
2. 638 Featured books (that are not free)
3. 470 Free books
These ARE optimized for tablet experience and it totals over 1174 apps (using Apple's version of app definition... (148Appbiz currently reports that Iphone has Books - 56409 active Apps).
I agree that Apple counting book-apps is misleading. We should be comparing apps on each WITHOUT BOOKS.
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Now, unlike Apple. Honeycomb games don't need any recoding to be optimized for a Tablet. So in reality Android tablets can make full use of all submitted Android apps
If you don't do anything to make an app work better on a tablet, how can it be claimed to be optimised for a tablet? Or are you saying apps made for the small screen work fine on the bigger one?
iPhone apps work on the iPad without any changes, but are nowhere near as good as a native app. Apple doesn't seem to be zooming up the high-res "retina" version of the app (just the standard version). And the iPad uses the iPhone keyboard (zoomed) rather than inserting the iPad keyboard. They could make the experience much better. Perhaps they're avoiding that to force developers to create an iPad specific interface?
The spelling error aside, you really must have been dying to try and make use of such an unused word in the English Lexicon.
By the way, it's asymptotically. Unfortunately, you should actually be discussing the Limit of the market growth in apps being produced by Android because the horizontal axis is not that sexy of an asymptote.
Wow. We are all so impressed that you can actually spell 'asymptote!' Even 'asymptotically!'
Meanwhile, the rest of us illiterates were busy enjoying the actual meaning of the post.......
You'll find this clown's picture in the dictionary, right next to 'Loser'.
And how I predicted Android would over take the iPhone when I was among the first 1000 to have a G1 in their hands.
The same way.. this rofl 'Loser' will be smiling at iOS and its fans.. (that includes you) when Android Tablets overwhelm iPads like Android phones are doing so with the iPhone.
If you guys haven't noticed. There are three reason why Apple will lose, that history has proven time and time again (BetaMax, Mac Computers. IBM Computers, are some Examples).
When a company wants total control it can't compete against an open system. This is a proven fact over time. Yes, they will be relevant for a while, but in the long run both Technology and Marketshare depress their market.
iOS devices have the following going against them:
a) Apple Dictatorship
b) Closed System
c) Too long of a development cycle (one year compared to 4 months for Android Hardwarewise)
d) History
e) Price
And its not the best phone out there. Actually Mobiado carries the BEST phone to date, the ctp002 and its Android.
If you all just kindly step over to the Android Market.
You will all see there are (using Apple metrics to count apps).
1. 66 Apps optimized for Honeycomb
2. 638 Featured books (that are not free)
3. 470 Free books
These ARE optimized for tablet experience and it totals over 1174 apps (using Apple's version of app definition... (148Appbiz currently reports that Iphone has Books - 56409 active Apps).
So clearly all the iPhone community lives in la la land. But thats alright, keep on doing so. It happened with the G1 and look where we are now. Looking at reality through distorted glasses doesn't change reality, just your perception of it.
Now, unlike Apple. Honeycomb games don't need any recoding to be optimized for a Tablet. So in reality Android tablets can make full use of all submitted Android apps, which by the way this week crossed 300K mark as per AndroidLib metrics, out of which 187K are active. Android adds 30K apps a month growing at 10% rate, while iPhone ecosystem grows under 5% a month and currently has 450K apps).
This year alone, this is another metric that the iOS ecosystem will surrender to Android.
Sorry to bust the bubble and I do realize most of you will rant against this.
Thats not a problem, its just reality.
Really? Sales volume in the iOS App Store is measured in billions and in the Android Marketplace may be happy to get into the 10s of millions this year.. Don't let reality get in your way.
PS the G1 is not even a blip on the cell phone market and the iPhone 4 is the #1 handset (not just smart phone) in the world.. I did not bother to look but I doubt anything else you said was true either. It sure as hell did not make any sense.
And how I predicted Android would over take the iPhone when I was among the first 1000 to have a G1 in their hands.
The same way.. this rofl 'Loser' will be smiling at iOS and its fans.. (that includes you) when Android Tablets overwhelm iPads like Android phones are doing so with the iPhone.
If you guys haven't noticed. There are three reason why Apple will lose, that history has proven time and time again (BetaMax, Mac Computers. IBM Computers, are some Examples).
When a company wants total control it can't compete against an open system. This is a proven fact over time. Yes, they will be relevant for a while, but in the long run both Technology and Marketshare depress their market.
iOS devices have the following going against them:
a) Apple Dictatorship
b) Closed System
c) Too long of a development cycle (one year compared to 4 months for Android Hardwarewise)
d) History
e) Price
And its not the best phone out there. Actually Mobiado carries the BEST phone to date, the ctp002 and its Android.
Give it another three years and Ill be back to smile on you guys like I have done so with the G1.
Apple is losingg? They will be the highest revenue phone manufacturer and most profitable phone manufacturer in 2011. They will also be the most profitable computer manufacturer and highest revenue/most profitable tablet manufacture in 2011. You live in a much different world from the rest of us. The number of Android devices swelled because carriers gave them away. Developers did not bite because there is no way for them to monetize apps on Android.
Building market share by giving away devices is ot winning, it is despite, and it is failing.
If you're right... then every Honeycomb developer is doing it wrong.
I see what you're saying about the noticing your app, though. But, if you spend 500 hours developing an app... you really wanna sell that thing.
Right now... there aren't enough Honeycomb tablets out there... which translates into fewer potential customers.
However, there are plenty of iPad owners out there. If you make a great iPad app... it will get noticed eventually.
You'll still sell more iPads apps even if they are buried in the App Store... than you will if you were the only Honeycomb app in the Marketplace.
Thats just it, I think you will sell more apps if you are 1 of 17 and have only a couple 100,000 users that are likely to see your app at around 100% certainty than being 1 of 350,000....but it really depends on the app. Obviously if you are selling the next angry birds blockbuster then being in the iOS market would be more lucrative. But right now if you can make a have decent app that is USEFUL and not very niche, then being in the android market is going to get you big sales....Id be happy selling 100,000 copies at 99 cents. versus competing with the app tonnage in the iOS market selling maybe 10 per day....but it's all moot really, because right now android users don't pay.
If you all just kindly step over to the Android Market.
You will all see there are (using Apple metrics to count apps).
1. 66 Apps optimized for Honeycomb
2. 638 Featured books (that are not free)
3. 470 Free books
These ARE optimized for tablet experience and it totals over 1174 apps (using Apple's version of app definition... (148Appbiz currently reports that Iphone has Books - 56409 active Apps).
So clearly all the iPhone community lives in la la land. But thats alright, keep on doing so. It happened with the G1 and look where we are now. Looking at reality through distorted glasses doesn't change reality, just your perception of it.
Now, unlike Apple. Honeycomb games don't need any recoding to be optimized for a Tablet. So in reality Android tablets can make full use of all submitted Android apps, which by the way this week crossed 300K mark as per AndroidLib metrics, out of which 187K are active. Android adds 30K apps a month growing at 10% rate, while iPhone ecosystem grows under 5% a month and currently has 450K apps).
This year alone, this is another metric that the iOS ecosystem will surrender to Android.
Sorry to bust the bubble and I do realize most of you will rant against this.
Thats not a problem, its just reality.
STFU, you freaking idiot. dont talk when you dont even have a Xoom
go look at here how the app for android that scale up for Xoom, how is that work out for that Honey Beta Xoom
And how I predicted Android would over take the iPhone when I was among the first 1000 to have a G1 in their hands.
And yet it?s Apple that is the most profitable handset maker in the world. Not HTC using their defunct handset that stopped being updated as of version 1.6. What did you get out of that, a year on your two year contract when it was just last year the original iPhone from 2007 was stopped being updated. Winner all the way¡
Quote:
iOS devices have the following going against them:
a) Apple Dictatorship
b) Closed System
c) Too long of a development cycle (one year compared to 4 months for Android Hardwarewise)
d) History
e) Price
A) Google Socialism
Honeycomb is closed
C) Not long enough in development so tablets like the Xoom are shipped incomplete with no drivers for HW and even missing parts that require it to be shipped back to the factory on your dime to be completed at an undisclosed date.
D) History of near bankruptcy and poor HW sales for vendors using Android as a last ditch effort, compared to Apple?s history of service, support and success in the handset market they couldn?t possibly enter because it was so entrenched.
E) Price indeed! Apple?s EoS and efficiency R&D keeps competitors at the same price for the most comparable HW and yet poor SW makes it perform and feel considerably slower than the iOS-based devices.
Quote:
And its not the best phone out there. Actually Mobiado carries the BEST phone to date, the ctp002 and its Android.
Comments
This just proves how much Apple lies about everything.
Wow! Even though Jobs was so gracious he didn't want to put Android down.
Actually I think you've got it backwards. It would be best to focus on the Honeycomb tablet right now while there are very few apps, that way your app has more chance of being noticed.
If you're right... then every Honeycomb developer is doing it wrong.
I see what you're saying about the noticing your app, though. But, if you spend 500 hours developing an app... you really wanna sell that thing.
Right now... there aren't enough Honeycomb tablets out there... which translates into fewer potential customers.
However, there are plenty of iPad owners out there. If you make a great iPad app... it will get noticed eventually.
You'll still sell more iPads apps even if they are buried in the App Store... than you will if you were the only Honeycomb app in the Marketplace.
What about Samsung tablets, Dell tablet, and many more from other makers?
What about them? There are plenty of Honeycomb tablets "coming soon"
While Apple is already on their 2nd iPad...
You're counting EACH BOOK as a separate APP? So should Apple add iBooks, Amazon's, B&N, and the lesser bookstores entire catalogs to their app count?
66 is, indeed, more than 20, but the author was asserting that in order for an app to qualify as a tablet app it had to be more than simply a phone app rendered bigger. I'm sure some of the tens of thousands of iPad-specific apps in Apple's store are just upconverted iPhone conten
Err...the poster did say that is how Apple counts it's apps. I have absolutely no idea if the poster is correct or not but if the poster IS correct, than I see no problem in the count (even though I believe e-books shouldn't be counted).
Err...the poster did say that is how Apple counts it's apps. I have absolutely no idea if the poster is correct or not but if the poster IS correct, than I see no problem in the count (even though I believe e-books shouldn't be counted).
Even if he is correct, he does not say how many of the 65000 iPad apps are books. I very highly doubt the same proportion as his Android tablet numbers. Even if 15000 are books that would still be 66 against 50000 for Android tablet vs. iPad apps.
If you all just kindly step over to the Android Market.
You will all see there are (using Apple metrics to count apps).
1. 66 Apps optimized for Honeycomb
2. 638 Featured books (that are not free)
3. 470 Free books
These ARE optimized for tablet experience and it totals over 1174 apps (using Apple's version of app definition... (148Appbiz currently reports that Iphone has Books - 56409 active Apps).
So clearly all the iPhone community lives in la la land. But thats alright, keep on doing so. It happened with the G1 and look where we are now. Looking at reality through distorted glasses doesn't change reality, just your perception of it.
Now, unlike Apple. Honeycomb games don't need any recoding to be optimized for a Tablet. So in reality Android tablets can make full use of all submitted Android apps, which by the way this week crossed 300K mark as per AndroidLib metrics, out of which 187K are active. Android adds 30K apps a month growing at 10% rate, while iPhone ecosystem grows under 5% a month and currently has 450K apps).
This year alone, this is another metric that the iOS ecosystem will surrender to Android.
Sorry to bust the bubble and I do realize most of you will rant against this.
Thats not a problem, its just reality.
I will be a little more giving to the iFan's. I predict Android apps will pass the iPhone in 2012, not in 2011
A year from now there will be a dozen good Andriod tablets running Honeycomb + and probably for cheaper than the iPad. Again I predict the iPad will drop to number 2 and do so faster than the iPhone did.
Maybe Dan can spin some shiiiiite on that day for the iFan's so they wont feel so bad?? His drible is the best in the iFan blog world when it comes to the pure waste of electrons.
You're having to count books as apps to pad your numbers and you want to talk about reality?
Fandroids are funny.
Well then under your same statement.
iOS has less than 300K apps.
Look at: http://148apps.biz/app-store-metrics/
Here is the iOS Total
COUNT OF ACTIVE APPLICATIONS IN THE APP STORE [DETAILS]
Total Active Apps (currently available for download): 369,469
Total Inactive Apps (no longer available for download): 81,348
Total Apps Seen in US App Store: 450,817
Number of Active Publishers in the US App Store: 77,945
.....
APPLICATION CATEGORY DISTRIBUTION [DETAILS]
Most Popular Categories
1 - Books (56409 active)
2 - Games (54203 active)
3 - Entertainment (40517 active)
4 - Education (30746 active)
5 - Lifestyle (27083 active)
Just using the same metrics used by iOS.
If you all just kindly step over to the Android Market.
You will all see there are (using Apple metrics to count apps).
1. 66 Apps optimized for Honeycomb
2. 638 Featured books (that are not free)
3. 470 Free books
These ARE optimized for tablet experience and it totals over 1174 apps (using Apple's version of app definition... (148Appbiz currently reports that Iphone has Books - 56409 active Apps).
I agree that Apple counting book-apps is misleading. We should be comparing apps on each WITHOUT BOOKS.
Now, unlike Apple. Honeycomb games don't need any recoding to be optimized for a Tablet. So in reality Android tablets can make full use of all submitted Android apps
If you don't do anything to make an app work better on a tablet, how can it be claimed to be optimised for a tablet? Or are you saying apps made for the small screen work fine on the bigger one?
iPhone apps work on the iPad without any changes, but are nowhere near as good as a native app. Apple doesn't seem to be zooming up the high-res "retina" version of the app (just the standard version). And the iPad uses the iPhone keyboard (zoomed) rather than inserting the iPad keyboard. They could make the experience much better. Perhaps they're avoiding that to force developers to create an iPad specific interface?
The spelling error aside, you really must have been dying to try and make use of such an unused word in the English Lexicon.
By the way, it's asymptotically. Unfortunately, you should actually be discussing the Limit of the market growth in apps being produced by Android because the horizontal axis is not that sexy of an asymptote.
Wow. We are all so impressed that you can actually spell 'asymptote!' Even 'asymptotically!'
Meanwhile, the rest of us illiterates were busy enjoying the actual meaning of the post.......
You'll find this clown's picture in the dictionary, right next to 'Loser'.
And how I predicted Android would over take the iPhone when I was among the first 1000 to have a G1 in their hands.
The same way.. this rofl 'Loser' will be smiling at iOS and its fans.. (that includes you) when Android Tablets overwhelm iPads like Android phones are doing so with the iPhone.
If you guys haven't noticed. There are three reason why Apple will lose, that history has proven time and time again (BetaMax, Mac Computers. IBM Computers, are some Examples).
When a company wants total control it can't compete against an open system. This is a proven fact over time. Yes, they will be relevant for a while, but in the long run both Technology and Marketshare depress their market.
iOS devices have the following going against them:
a) Apple Dictatorship
b) Closed System
c) Too long of a development cycle (one year compared to 4 months for Android Hardwarewise)
d) History
e) Price
And its not the best phone out there. Actually Mobiado carries the BEST phone to date, the ctp002 and its Android.
http://tech2.in.com/news/mobile-phon...android/209582
Give it another three years and Ill be back to smile on you guys like I have done so with the G1.
If you all just kindly step over to the Android Market.
You will all see there are (using Apple metrics to count apps).
1. 66 Apps optimized for Honeycomb
2. 638 Featured books (that are not free)
3. 470 Free books
These ARE optimized for tablet experience and it totals over 1174 apps (using Apple's version of app definition... (148Appbiz currently reports that Iphone has Books - 56409 active Apps).
So clearly all the iPhone community lives in la la land. But thats alright, keep on doing so. It happened with the G1 and look where we are now. Looking at reality through distorted glasses doesn't change reality, just your perception of it.
Now, unlike Apple. Honeycomb games don't need any recoding to be optimized for a Tablet. So in reality Android tablets can make full use of all submitted Android apps, which by the way this week crossed 300K mark as per AndroidLib metrics, out of which 187K are active. Android adds 30K apps a month growing at 10% rate, while iPhone ecosystem grows under 5% a month and currently has 450K apps).
This year alone, this is another metric that the iOS ecosystem will surrender to Android.
Sorry to bust the bubble and I do realize most of you will rant against this.
Thats not a problem, its just reality.
Really? Sales volume in the iOS App Store is measured in billions and in the Android Marketplace may be happy to get into the 10s of millions this year.. Don't let reality get in your way.
PS the G1 is not even a blip on the cell phone market and the iPhone 4 is the #1 handset (not just smart phone) in the world.. I did not bother to look but I doubt anything else you said was true either. It sure as hell did not make any sense.
"When will then be now? ...Soon."
Am I just reaching here, or is this a M*A*S*H reference?
And how I predicted Android would over take the iPhone when I was among the first 1000 to have a G1 in their hands.
The same way.. this rofl 'Loser' will be smiling at iOS and its fans.. (that includes you) when Android Tablets overwhelm iPads like Android phones are doing so with the iPhone.
If you guys haven't noticed. There are three reason why Apple will lose, that history has proven time and time again (BetaMax, Mac Computers. IBM Computers, are some Examples).
When a company wants total control it can't compete against an open system. This is a proven fact over time. Yes, they will be relevant for a while, but in the long run both Technology and Marketshare depress their market.
iOS devices have the following going against them:
a) Apple Dictatorship
b) Closed System
c) Too long of a development cycle (one year compared to 4 months for Android Hardwarewise)
d) History
e) Price
And its not the best phone out there. Actually Mobiado carries the BEST phone to date, the ctp002 and its Android.
http://tech2.in.com/news/mobile-phon...android/209582
Give it another three years and Ill be back to smile on you guys like I have done so with the G1.
Apple is losingg? They will be the highest revenue phone manufacturer and most profitable phone manufacturer in 2011. They will also be the most profitable computer manufacturer and highest revenue/most profitable tablet manufacture in 2011. You live in a much different world from the rest of us. The number of Android devices swelled because carriers gave them away. Developers did not bite because there is no way for them to monetize apps on Android.
Building market share by giving away devices is ot winning, it is despite, and it is failing.
If you're right... then every Honeycomb developer is doing it wrong.
I see what you're saying about the noticing your app, though. But, if you spend 500 hours developing an app... you really wanna sell that thing.
Right now... there aren't enough Honeycomb tablets out there... which translates into fewer potential customers.
However, there are plenty of iPad owners out there. If you make a great iPad app... it will get noticed eventually.
You'll still sell more iPads apps even if they are buried in the App Store... than you will if you were the only Honeycomb app in the Marketplace.
Thats just it, I think you will sell more apps if you are 1 of 17 and have only a couple 100,000 users that are likely to see your app at around 100% certainty than being 1 of 350,000....but it really depends on the app. Obviously if you are selling the next angry birds blockbuster then being in the iOS market would be more lucrative. But right now if you can make a have decent app that is USEFUL and not very niche, then being in the android market is going to get you big sales....Id be happy selling 100,000 copies at 99 cents. versus competing with the app tonnage in the iOS market selling maybe 10 per day....but it's all moot really, because right now android users don't pay.
If you all just kindly step over to the Android Market.
You will all see there are (using Apple metrics to count apps).
1. 66 Apps optimized for Honeycomb
2. 638 Featured books (that are not free)
3. 470 Free books
These ARE optimized for tablet experience and it totals over 1174 apps (using Apple's version of app definition... (148Appbiz currently reports that Iphone has Books - 56409 active Apps).
So clearly all the iPhone community lives in la la land. But thats alright, keep on doing so. It happened with the G1 and look where we are now. Looking at reality through distorted glasses doesn't change reality, just your perception of it.
Now, unlike Apple. Honeycomb games don't need any recoding to be optimized for a Tablet. So in reality Android tablets can make full use of all submitted Android apps, which by the way this week crossed 300K mark as per AndroidLib metrics, out of which 187K are active. Android adds 30K apps a month growing at 10% rate, while iPhone ecosystem grows under 5% a month and currently has 450K apps).
This year alone, this is another metric that the iOS ecosystem will surrender to Android.
Sorry to bust the bubble and I do realize most of you will rant against this.
Thats not a problem, its just reality.
STFU, you freaking idiot. dont talk when you dont even have a Xoom
go look at here how the app for android that scale up for Xoom, how is that work out for that Honey Beta Xoom
Xoom + HoneyComb = crap beta tablet.
http://techcrunch.com/2011/03/05/ipad-2-xoom-fight/
And how I predicted Android would over take the iPhone when I was among the first 1000 to have a G1 in their hands.
And yet it?s Apple that is the most profitable handset maker in the world. Not HTC using their defunct handset that stopped being updated as of version 1.6. What did you get out of that, a year on your two year contract when it was just last year the original iPhone from 2007 was stopped being updated. Winner all the way¡
iOS devices have the following going against them:
a) Apple Dictatorship
b) Closed System
c) Too long of a development cycle (one year compared to 4 months for Android Hardwarewise)
d) History
e) Price
A) Google Socialism
C) Not long enough in development so tablets like the Xoom are shipped incomplete with no drivers for HW and even missing parts that require it to be shipped back to the factory on your dime to be completed at an undisclosed date.
D) History of near bankruptcy and poor HW sales for vendors using Android as a last ditch effort, compared to Apple?s history of service, support and success in the handset market they couldn?t possibly enter because it was so entrenched.
E) Price indeed! Apple?s EoS and efficiency R&D keeps competitors at the same price for the most comparable HW and yet poor SW makes it perform and feel considerably slower than the iOS-based devices.
And its not the best phone out there. Actually Mobiado carries the BEST phone to date, the ctp002 and its Android.
http://tech2.in.com/news/mobile-phon...android/209582
Luxurious? hahaha Who cares what the HW or UI is like, as long you ignore functionality for a cheesy case and UI wrapper. Makes perfect sense¡
Give it another three years and Ill be back to smile on you guys like I have done so with the G1.
Good luck with that.