the iBM 60GB is available today so apple could easily bump the books to 30, 48, 60BTO
price permitting of course
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OK, didn't know it was.
Still, even so, 100GB are pretty optimistic.
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the radeon mobility certainly is not outdated but the powerbook is a "leader" or at least suppose to be in the notebook market. plus its pin compatible so an upgrade to a radeon 7500 would seem very likely and a welcome addition in a month or 2</strong><hr></blockquote>
I'm just curious... Is this date of March for a new PowerBook update pure speculation or is there something behind it?
Also, when considering Apple products, specifically the PowerBook, does everyone here think that Apple really considers the price all that much? I mean this is a high end laptop. I don't suppose they care if their PowerBook borders on the $3000-$4000 range. After all, there is no PC laptop equivalent that is 1 inch thin. And after owning a PC laptop (or should i say craptop, after all it was a Sager!) I find that to be a significant benefit of the PowerBook.
I imagine 1600*whatever would do seriously bad things for the more myopic of us.
There's another two disadvantages of higher native resolution I can think of: worse overall video performance until you shove a more expensive chipset in, and an exponential increase in cost due to more failed screens.
I dunno how it affects power consumption.
Thing is, how many other applicances use the same widescreen as the TiBook? Dell et al can bulk-buy high resolution square aspect screens without too much trouble, I'd wager; the more esoteric Apple choice and the yet-more-esoteric Apple margins are a bit prohibitive in this context.
<strong>I dunno how it affects power consumption.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I'm pretty sure that the screen's physical size affects power consumption a lot more than the screen's resolution. IIRC, an LCD's main power draw is the backlight, which has nothing to do with resolution.
Nvidia has supposed to have released some sort of GeForce 4 card for laptops that should be available to oem configurers RIGHT NOW! Nvidia's website says that some toshiba satellite notebook has a 32meg version of the card installed and available. Think this could end up in the Powerbook revision? Think it could end up on the streets soon for powerbook owners to upgrade to?
I don't understand the objection to offering higher screen resolutions. By offering 1600 X Whatever, Apple is not forcing you to use it. You could still select the current resolution if you so choose.
As was mentioned earlier, using Illustrator, Photoshop and Director is a real hassle with the current resolution, not to mention OS X.
Yup. As much as it hurts my eyes, and it really, really does, some folks do like that ultra-high resolution. Go figure. I say give it to them. And I surely could use it for Logic Audio, if only for short bursts.
<strong>I don't understand the objection to offering higher screen resolutions. By offering 1600 X Whatever, Apple is not forcing you to use it. You could still select the current resolution if you so choose.
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This is not correct because it would not be the native resolution and if you have seen an LCD running at other resolutions you would know just how bad it looks. LCDs do not work the same way that CRTs do when it comes to switching resolutions. It is not a pretty sight.
If an LCD has a high enogh pixel density then you won't notice much anti-aliasing when you reduce the resolution. I've tried it on my wifes Dell 14.1" 1400x1080 (drool) @ 1280x1024 and 1024x768 and it's fine.
<strong>Nvidia has supposed to have released some sort of GeForce 4 card for laptops that should be available to oem configurers RIGHT NOW! Nvidia's website says that some toshiba satellite notebook has a 32meg version of the card installed and available. Think this could end up in the Powerbook revision? Think it could end up on the streets soon for powerbook owners to upgrade to?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yep, here is a link: [EDIT: can't get link to work... toooo long. go to toshiba.com look for the Satellite 5000.]
Toshiba Satellite 5000
$1999 gets you:
1.1Ghz PIII
512MB
40GB
NVIDIA GeForce4 Go (32MB)
15" LCD @ 1600x1200
DVD/CD-RW
Built in Harmon/Kardon Speakers and Sub
Firewire
XPee Home
This is what Apple needs to do with the next PowerBook (except, do 1600x1024? to preserve the current aspect ratio).
I think the main reason for not going with the GeForce2Go in the current powerbook is battery life. That GPU was a hog. The GeForce4Go scales back when not needed, to extend battery life.
The next revision of the PB G4 will only have higher CPU (600 and 850 MHz) and graphics card (NVIDIA). That's it!
A new system would be too much for Apple. Too soon for a new G4 PB.
There is no hope for a higher resolution display as of now because Samsung and LG/Philips have not put forward new OEM products or their specs out there. The only hope for higher resolution displays is for the 14" iBook (son of pismo).
ok, i just hope all this comes out by MacWorld Tokyo. Hopefully I can get a low end for 2299 w/667 G4 and GeForce4 Go. That's the hope at least. I'm still gonna maintain that anything over 1400 pixels horizontally would make things to small, but I dunno, maybe.
first, as said, dell inspirons 8100 can have the radion 7500 with 64 megs of video ram if you pick the uvga screen. (it'll cost 100$ more than the geforce 2, and the uvga sceen is $100 more than the sxga screen)
also, toshiba has just release a laptop (satalite 5005) with a geforce go 4. in theory, it should use less power than an ati card (it is made with a .15 micron process). the notebook has a 1600x1200 screen and costs $2000. (and i personally think it looks pretty cool too)
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the iBM 60GB is available today so apple could easily bump the books to 30, 48, 60BTO
price permitting of course
</strong><hr></blockquote>
OK, didn't know it was.
Still, even so, 100GB are pretty optimistic.
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the radeon mobility certainly is not outdated but the powerbook is a "leader" or at least suppose to be in the notebook market. plus its pin compatible so an upgrade to a radeon 7500 would seem very likely and a welcome addition in a month or 2</strong><hr></blockquote>
Oh, I definitely wouldn't object either.
Bye,
RazzFazz
Also, when considering Apple products, specifically the PowerBook, does everyone here think that Apple really considers the price all that much? I mean this is a high end laptop. I don't suppose they care if their PowerBook borders on the $3000-$4000 range. After all, there is no PC laptop equivalent that is 1 inch thin. And after owning a PC laptop (or should i say craptop, after all it was a Sager!) I find that to be a significant benefit of the PowerBook.
You're a sharp-eyed bunch, aren't you?
I imagine 1600*whatever would do seriously bad things for the more myopic of us.
There's another two disadvantages of higher native resolution I can think of: worse overall video performance until you shove a more expensive chipset in, and an exponential increase in cost due to more failed screens.
I dunno how it affects power consumption.
Thing is, how many other applicances use the same widescreen as the TiBook? Dell et al can bulk-buy high resolution square aspect screens without too much trouble, I'd wager; the more esoteric Apple choice and the yet-more-esoteric Apple margins are a bit prohibitive in this context.
<strong>I dunno how it affects power consumption.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I'm pretty sure that the screen's physical size affects power consumption a lot more than the screen's resolution. IIRC, an LCD's main power draw is the backlight, which has nothing to do with resolution.
Photoshop
Illustrator
Premiere/aftereffects
Dreamweaver
Ultradev/InterDev
Flash
Director
I use these and usually 4 to 6 at a time, each with their own set of half a dozen window tools. It get's crowded very quickly..
1536 x 1024.
Not too small, but still displaying great amount of pixels.
As was mentioned earlier, using Illustrator, Photoshop and Director is a real hassle with the current resolution, not to mention OS X.
And either of those GPUs would be sweeeet.
- Pook
<strong>I don't understand the objection to offering higher screen resolutions. By offering 1600 X Whatever, Apple is not forcing you to use it. You could still select the current resolution if you so choose.
</strong><hr></blockquote>
This is not correct because it would not be the native resolution and if you have seen an LCD running at other resolutions you would know just how bad it looks. LCDs do not work the same way that CRTs do when it comes to switching resolutions. It is not a pretty sight.
<a href="http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0202/07.trans.php" target="_blank">MacCentral</a>
I don't know too much about Hard Drives, but is this a possible inclusion in the next TiBook upgrade? (hopefully in Tokyo!! )
rr.
<strong>Nvidia has supposed to have released some sort of GeForce 4 card for laptops that should be available to oem configurers RIGHT NOW! Nvidia's website says that some toshiba satellite notebook has a 32meg version of the card installed and available. Think this could end up in the Powerbook revision? Think it could end up on the streets soon for powerbook owners to upgrade to?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yep, here is a link: [EDIT: can't get link to work... toooo long. go to toshiba.com look for the Satellite 5000.]
Toshiba Satellite 5000
$1999 gets you:
1.1Ghz PIII
512MB
40GB
NVIDIA GeForce4 Go (32MB)
15" LCD @ 1600x1200
DVD/CD-RW
Built in Harmon/Kardon Speakers and Sub
Firewire
XPee Home
This is what Apple needs to do with the next PowerBook (except, do 1600x1024? to preserve the current aspect ratio).
I think the main reason for not going with the GeForce2Go in the current powerbook is battery life. That GPU was a hog. The GeForce4Go scales back when not needed, to extend battery life.
Blizaine
[ 02-08-2002: Message edited by: Blizaine ]</p>
A new system would be too much for Apple. Too soon for a new G4 PB.
There is no hope for a higher resolution display as of now because Samsung and LG/Philips have not put forward new OEM products or their specs out there. The only hope for higher resolution displays is for the 14" iBook (son of pismo).
600 and 733
667 and 800
733 and 867
My money's on 667 and 800, but that's just me.
There is no reason that the current GPU wouldn't be able to do 1536 x 1024. A 32 MB chip would be even better.
-Rupert
first, as said, dell inspirons 8100 can have the radion 7500 with 64 megs of video ram if you pick the uvga screen. (it'll cost 100$ more than the geforce 2, and the uvga sceen is $100 more than the sxga screen)
also, toshiba has just release a laptop (satalite 5005) with a geforce go 4. in theory, it should use less power than an ati card (it is made with a .15 micron process). the notebook has a 1600x1200 screen and costs $2000. (and i personally think it looks pretty cool too)
Ted
Edit: ug, other people beat me to the punch...
[ 02-08-2002: Message edited by: Detnap ]</p>
I too have seen a Compaq laptop that does different resolutions and they all appear fine.
My question is whether it's the LCD screen or is it the video card that's the problem. Or both?