Hmmm, Macfenian, youre not tarring all Irish girls with the same brush when you say they're iliterate, but you have a point about Dub females , North siders especially!
Shit! Theres more brains in a Big Mac than some of 'em.
I have to agree that some of our most intelligent women do seem to leave the country on a term break and leave us with only the gum chewin' brigade and the tourists to "do business" with
By the way, have you noticed just how many spanish women are visiting Ireland (especially Dublin) recently?!! Hot Babes!
... yes, they say men are from mars, women from venus... well, japanese are from pluto. (i asked her and she confirmed that) so: japanese are alien.
it has to do with the very different cultures (western and japanese). it's difficult to have a relationship with a japanese girl even if you love each other intensly (ask lennon or better: bogdan raczynski, he still lives and he made 4 albums about his love, he loved) ...
hmm... by the way; the fights where really very intens. learned me a lot about women and myself
<strong> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> Not everyone looks like you, Gambit. But really, that's an awesome tip about what not to talk about...</strong><hr></blockquote>
Thanks for the compliment. I was half-teasing, though. For everybody who didn't get it, talking puppy dogs and ice cream basically means you shouldn't talk about things that will end up on the friendship end of things (unless you're settling for a friendship or maybe an eventual relationship). Ahhh, women.
Hmmm, Macfenian, youre not tarring all Irish girls with the same brush when you say they're iliterate, but you have a point about Dub females , North siders especially!<hr></blockquote>
I wouldn't dare I wasn't trying to say all Irish girls are illiterate. Hell, I've had many girlfriends that rather read in bed. Just that they're not all literate.
[quote]By the way, have you noticed just how many spanish women are visiting Ireland (especially Dublin) recently?!! Hot Babes!
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I believe that is because they come here to learn English which is kind of funny when you consider that they are in Cork
What do you mean by British? If she's Scottish, Welsh or especially Irish be careful with that because that could ruin your chances at the first go. I just assumed she was English since that's the only people I consider British..
Sorry to be political (not fireside after all) but be careful.
Anyway, thanks for all your inputs and interesting (yet perhaps some that were disturbing turnoffs) stories. Eh, I don't know, I can't really talk to girls, it's not my area. You're right though, it's not really an issue of British girls specifically but just women in general.
I only said maybe a few words to her in class, argh, ****ing pansy I am.
Maybe more in a few days, or tommorrow.
Then again though, I'm asian, being an asian guy sucks these days for these type of situations.
Well, my advice is simple. Tried and true, and....being a boy, it sucks. You're on the 'receiving' end of the relationship...and you always will be. So, here's the 100% proven and approved by all my lovers fomula:
1) When people say 'be yourself', of course, you have no idea what that means. Instead, I propose to you a new idea. 'Think of yourself". This means when you are thinking of approaching a woman you need to muster all of your current strengths. You may think you have none, but you do. What music do you listen to? How smart are you? What are your passions? Tell her none of that. It doesn't matter at this point. What matters is that you are aware of this. Women are 'buyers and breakers'. That is, they'll buy your attitude, or break you like the frozen cod you are. Just kidding (sort of).
2) If and when you've decided you're going to 'go for it' think of this: Women are, have been and always will be infinitely smarter than you when it comes to relations (or, for that matter, anything). But, you as a man have the thing that women most desire and ultimately detest. No. Not that. What I'm talking about is 'man logic'. Women have the 'pure logic' but don't understand math at all. Men understand math, but they're logic completely defies reason. This may seem like an oxymoron to you, and it is. But it drives women crazy.
Don't try to figure it out. It's impossible.
3) When you've got someone in youir sights and you want to be a part of her life...or at least want them to be a pert of your history....be bold. This is probably the hardest thing for a man to do. Men love women. Women can choose whomever the **** they want. That's reality. When I say 'be bold' that doesn't mean be an asshole. Most men are. To women, those men are '****s' and are laughed about long after. You need to remember rule 1. You.
4) Now that you're ready...be ready to be disappointed. I'm not talking gloom and doom here, but don't expect her to jump in your lap and pull her panties to the side. It never has and never will work that way. Even if she ends up being the love of your life, well, you'll have to work that out.
5) Ask her. Nicely. Not 'big guy confident I don't care either way' nicely, but nicely. In fact, do this: Ask her to lunch. Not a 'fancy' lunch just a comfortable lunch between friends. If she has any clue at all she'll suspect that something is up. Towards the end of lunch (let her eat at least!) mention the fact that you've admired her, and would like to take her to a show. You'll know.
6) If she says no: well, good try but don't hang on. Chances are you'll think her next boyfriend is a complete idiot. He is. If she says yes, well then, good for you. I can only allow a few more caveats before I go.
7) Now you're together. The first date should be you and her only. No exceptions. She might want or need the comfort/support of friends with her new date, but if at all possible make your first date 'just for you'. Girls that need constant support of their 'clik' are probably best left to the frat boys.
8) Follow these rules. Be honest. Don't be a macho putz. You'll get her or you wont. But, at least you've kept your self respect, and if you get her by following these rules, she'll respect you as well.
Anyway, thanks for all your inputs and interesting (yet perhaps some that were disturbing turnoffs) stories. Eh, I don't know, I can't really talk to girls, it's not my area. You're right though, it's not really an issue of British girls specifically but just women in general.
[quote]h, I don't know, I can't really talk to girls, it's not my area. You're right though, it's not really an issue of British girls specifically but just women in general.<hr></blockquote>
Ok here's my theory.
There is no being good with girls. Basically, if you're interested in a girl you should just go up and talk to her. Yes, you may be nervous and yes she may turn out to have a boyfriend. She may not be interested and she may slap you across the face if you pinch her arse before you say hi, my name is x and I know macfenian. However, if you're really interested she's worth taking any "risk" you have to take. If your nerves get the better of you the only thing that can come from it is that you'll end up settling for a girl that's almost who you want. That's not what you want to do because someone's going to end up hurt which is ten thousand times worth than getting turned down. Even when you're the hurter rather than the hurtee.
So just go up, talk to her. If she's not interested or what ever then that's too bad but at least you won't regret not taking a chance afterwards. Sooner or later a girl you do really like will react in a positive way, much sooner than you expect actually, and you'll be happy you took the chance. You'll actually be happy you took all the chances that turned out badly as well.
All this bla bla about girls like this and girls like that only becomes important once you take that first step. Worry about being yourself, opening the door for her, being funny and so on until you've actually taken that first step. She may turn out to be this total cow that doesn't have a clue what you're on about when you say you know me and not even be worth your bother. You will never know until you take a chance. Trying not to get hurt will amount to absolutely nothing good - at most it will amount to something acceptable.
Remember, girls are just guys like you and me but with breasts, treat them as such.
On that note, I would like to thank you for this thread because there is this girl who works in my local I've been wanting to ask out for months now but I never did because the place is always packed. You've convinced me I should just do it and see where it ends up. I don't know why I doubted that in the first place.
Cheers. And go get her. Good luck.
PS. She might actually not know me - forget what I said about that
Well some bad news folks, she's moving back to England next month. Some background though, I just moved here to Indiana about two months ago so I'm still pretty new, I think she's been around for a year, her dad is VP of some steel company around here so their US plant/division whatso is here in West Lafayette, IN, and she was only going to be here temporarily.
Hmm, waste of a thread I suppose, would be pointless to start now.
<strong>Well some bad news folks, she's moving back to England next month. Some background though, I just moved here to Indiana about two months ago so I'm still pretty new, I think she's been around for a year, her dad is VP of some steel company around here so their US plant/division whatso is here in West Lafayette, IN, and she was only going to be here temporarily.
Hmm, waste of a thread I suppose, would be pointless to start now.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Love, if it would turn in to that, is never pointless....I would follow that up with something profound but it's not coming to me so feck it. If it doesn't turn in to love then have a nice month.
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Shit! Theres more brains in a Big Mac than some of 'em.
I have to agree that some of our most intelligent women do seem to leave the country on a term break and leave us with only the gum chewin' brigade and the tourists to "do business" with
By the way, have you noticed just how many spanish women are visiting Ireland (especially Dublin) recently?!! Hot Babes!
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mental note...must learn Spanish...
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really?</strong><hr></blockquote>
... yes, they say men are from mars, women from venus... well, japanese are from pluto. (i asked her and she confirmed that) so: japanese are alien.
it has to do with the very different cultures (western and japanese). it's difficult to have a relationship with a japanese girl even if you love each other intensly (ask lennon or better: bogdan raczynski, he still lives and he made 4 albums about his love, he loved) ...
hmm... by the way; the fights where really very intens. learned me a lot about women and myself
<strong> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> Not everyone looks like you, Gambit. But really, that's an awesome tip about what not to talk about...</strong><hr></blockquote>
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
Thanks for the compliment. I was half-teasing, though.
his japanese ex
i meant he is not as dead as lennon is
<strong>...nearly no one understand what i said.
only nearly...
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Yes and i was impressed
And i was not a king of poetry too, luckily nearly no one understand what i said.
I didn't
Hmmm, Macfenian, youre not tarring all Irish girls with the same brush when you say they're iliterate, but you have a point about Dub females , North siders especially!<hr></blockquote>
I wouldn't dare
[quote]By the way, have you noticed just how many spanish women are visiting Ireland (especially Dublin) recently?!! Hot Babes!
...<hr></blockquote>
I believe that is because they come here to learn English which is kind of funny when you consider that they are in Cork
Or better yet, did you follow my (proven to be successful) strategy?
What do you mean by British? If she's Scottish, Welsh or especially Irish be careful with that because that could ruin your chances at the first go. I just assumed she was English since that's the only people I consider British..
Sorry to be political (not fireside after all) but be careful.
Anyway, thanks for all your inputs and interesting (yet perhaps some that were disturbing turnoffs) stories. Eh, I don't know, I can't really talk to girls, it's not my area. You're right though, it's not really an issue of British girls specifically but just women in general.
I only said maybe a few words to her in class, argh, ****ing pansy I am.
Maybe more in a few days, or tommorrow.
Then again though, I'm asian, being an asian guy sucks these days for these type of situations.
1) When people say 'be yourself', of course, you have no idea what that means. Instead, I propose to you a new idea. 'Think of yourself". This means when you are thinking of approaching a woman you need to muster all of your current strengths. You may think you have none, but you do. What music do you listen to? How smart are you? What are your passions? Tell her none of that. It doesn't matter at this point. What matters is that you are aware of this. Women are 'buyers and breakers'. That is, they'll buy your attitude, or break you like the frozen cod you are. Just kidding (sort of).
2) If and when you've decided you're going to 'go for it' think of this: Women are, have been and always will be infinitely smarter than you when it comes to relations (or, for that matter, anything). But, you as a man have the thing that women most desire and ultimately detest. No. Not that. What I'm talking about is 'man logic'. Women have the 'pure logic' but don't understand math at all. Men understand math, but they're logic completely defies reason. This may seem like an oxymoron to you, and it is. But it drives women crazy.
Don't try to figure it out. It's impossible.
3) When you've got someone in youir sights and you want to be a part of her life...or at least want them to be a pert of your history....be bold. This is probably the hardest thing for a man to do. Men love women. Women can choose whomever the **** they want. That's reality. When I say 'be bold' that doesn't mean be an asshole. Most men are. To women, those men are '****s' and are laughed about long after. You need to remember rule 1. You.
4) Now that you're ready...be ready to be disappointed. I'm not talking gloom and doom here, but don't expect her to jump in your lap and pull her panties to the side. It never has and never will work that way. Even if she ends up being the love of your life, well, you'll have to work that out.
5) Ask her. Nicely. Not 'big guy confident I don't care either way' nicely, but nicely. In fact, do this: Ask her to lunch. Not a 'fancy' lunch just a comfortable lunch between friends. If she has any clue at all she'll suspect that something is up. Towards the end of lunch (let her eat at least!) mention the fact that you've admired her, and would like to take her to a show. You'll know.
6) If she says no: well, good try but don't hang on. Chances are you'll think her next boyfriend is a complete idiot. He is. If she says yes, well then, good for you. I can only allow a few more caveats before I go.
7) Now you're together. The first date should be you and her only. No exceptions. She might want or need the comfort/support of friends with her new date, but if at all possible make your first date 'just for you'. Girls that need constant support of their 'clik' are probably best left to the frat boys.
8) Follow these rules. Be honest. Don't be a macho putz. You'll get her or you wont. But, at least you've kept your self respect, and if you get her by following these rules, she'll respect you as well.
- G
Wow, 70 replies.
Anyway, thanks for all your inputs and interesting (yet perhaps some that were disturbing turnoffs) stories. Eh, I don't know, I can't really talk to girls, it's not my area. You're right though, it's not really an issue of British girls specifically but just women in general.
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Go to <a href="http://www.getgirls.com"; target="_blank">www.getgirls.com</a>
Ok here's my theory.
There is no being good with girls. Basically, if you're interested in a girl you should just go up and talk to her. Yes, you may be nervous and yes she may turn out to have a boyfriend. She may not be interested and she may slap you across the face if you pinch her arse before you say hi, my name is x and I know macfenian. However, if you're really interested she's worth taking any "risk" you have to take. If your nerves get the better of you the only thing that can come from it is that you'll end up settling for a girl that's almost who you want. That's not what you want to do because someone's going to end up hurt which is ten thousand times worth than getting turned down. Even when you're the hurter rather than the hurtee.
So just go up, talk to her. If she's not interested or what ever then that's too bad but at least you won't regret not taking a chance afterwards. Sooner or later a girl you do really like will react in a positive way, much sooner than you expect actually, and you'll be happy you took the chance. You'll actually be happy you took all the chances that turned out badly as well.
All this bla bla about girls like this and girls like that only becomes important once you take that first step. Worry about being yourself, opening the door for her, being funny and so on until you've actually taken that first step. She may turn out to be this total cow that doesn't have a clue what you're on about when you say you know me and not even be worth your bother. You will never know until you take a chance. Trying not to get hurt will amount to absolutely nothing good - at most it will amount to something acceptable.
Remember, girls are just guys like you and me but with breasts, treat them as such.
On that note, I would like to thank you for this thread because there is this girl who works in my local I've been wanting to ask out for months now but I never did because the place is always packed. You've convinced me I should just do it and see where it ends up. I don't know why I doubted that in the first place.
Cheers. And go get her. Good luck.
PS. She might actually not know me - forget what I said about that
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Hmm, waste of a thread I suppose, would be pointless to start now.
<strong>Well some bad news folks, she's moving back to England next month. </strong><hr></blockquote>
Your loss, my gain
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Your loss, my gain
Better start working on that accent mate.
MiMac, you hold him - I take the girl. I'll make sure she runs to you for comfort once I cheat on her.
<strong>Well some bad news folks, she's moving back to England next month. Some background though, I just moved here to Indiana about two months ago so I'm still pretty new, I think she's been around for a year, her dad is VP of some steel company around here so their US plant/division whatso is here in West Lafayette, IN, and she was only going to be here temporarily.
Hmm, waste of a thread I suppose, would be pointless to start now.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Love, if it would turn in to that, is never pointless....I would follow that up with something profound but it's not coming to me so feck it. If it doesn't turn in to love then have a nice month.