But you?ll need an SDK and demos for both the devs and consumers to get behind the idea of apps on a TV done right. There is no way this could be introduced on a Sunday.
Sure it could. Recall how the iPhone was released without any 3rd party apps, SDK's or demos. Apple would want to provide a clear direction with in house apps that set a standard for a new way to interact with a 'simple' TV remote. Training for a third interface paradigm (fourth if you include command line interface with mouse/keyboard, multitouch, and remote control or whatever the new one might be) could justify the added training time. Of course Microsoft has its media center computer, Google has its Google TV but this new Apple product would be easily distinguished just like the iPad is so different from all the preceding tablets.
Yep, I'm going to predict a new TV product available only through Apple Stores (initially) because they just aren't crowded enough already.
Sure it could. Recall how the iPhone was released without any 3rd party apps, SDK's or demos. Apple would want to provide a clear direction with in house apps that set a standard for a new way to interact with a 'simple' TV remote. Training for a third interface paradigm (fourth if you include command line interface with mouse/keyboard, multitouch, and remote control or whatever the new one might be) could justify the added training time. Of course Microsoft has its media center computer, Google has its Google TV but this new Apple product would be easily distinguished just like the iPad is so different from all the preceding tablets.
Yep, I'm going to predict a new TV product available only through Apple Stores (initially) because they just aren't crowded enough already.
1) No, Apple announced the iPhone with a full on demo.
2) No, Apple released 3rd-party apps and an SDK with a full on demo.
3) Offering a new AppleTV HW, say, updated to A5 would still be using the same iOS so it?s not like it would be a new OS? which they did with a full on demo both times.
I have it from reliable sources that they have seen the writing on the wall. Jobs has decided if you can't beat them join them, and will be releasing an iPhone running android 2.3
I have it from reliable sources that they have seen the writing on the wall. Jobs has decided if you can't beat them join them, and will be releasing an iPhone running android 2.3
Releasing OS X Lion seems the obvious choice. Maybe if there was a reason why it would be good if lots of people had Lion BEFORE WWDC.....
Personally I think the way to celebrate 10 years would be a limited edition product. Maybe a limited edition RED iPhone, with 10% of profit going to charity. THAT would draw crowds.
On the other hand, if Apple are sitting on billions of dollars cash, maybe everyone who presents at an Apple Store with an iOS device gets a voucher for $100!
Maybe a model of damn near anything, that was designed by Steve Jobs, and is signed by Steve Jobs, and is seen as a Steve Jobs Model (iPhone, iPad, Laptop) ?
I could be wrong, but why in hell would CROWDS of people go to the Apple store for iCloud?
It WILL be new ?
It WILL be cool ?
it WILL be exciting ?
It WILL be talked about ?
Or will it?
Hell with all of the hype leading up to it, it could be nothing more then (as pointed out earlier) a 10th Anniversary t-shirt, and YES we know crowds will be there for it.
Apple announces 'one size fits all' : A mini-like base with modules atop; one module - basic; two modules - intermediate; three modules - pro. Two monitors: one 27"; the other a 21". Production costs plummet and prices drop. Apple stock soars to record high.
I could be wrong, but why in hell would CROWDS of people go to the Apple store for iCloud?
That would be plain bizarre. "Hey everyone, come to our physical Apple Stores... Where we'll show you what you can access anywhere, anytime through the Cloud!".
We shall see.And you shall be renamed crow eating shortest skil.
Or you could give me one logical reason the past seven years don't fit with my standpoint and obviously fit with yours.
Or something easier: one logical reason for Apple to do this at all.
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I give it less than two years.
Same quote from everyone saying this since 2004. You'll have to do better than that.
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Why aren?t they paying extra for a quality display now?
What sizes will they come in?
What panel types will they be?
What about the 20? I want in my bathroom or 30? I want in my guest bedroom?
What is so inconvenient about about buying one of hundreds of TVs and putting the input so it?s always on the AppleTV?
If it?s about saving that god awful chore of switching inputs how is that reduced if I still have to switch inputs for my cable box/satellite/DVR/Blu-ray player?
Why are you against Apple creating a more robust AppleTV that is the input for your cable box/satellite/DVR and the TV stays as it already is a dumb monitor that you don?t fiddle with?
How will they compete with big box stores that have the space to store hundreds of large TVs in every possible size?
If you say they will carry only a few in their stores and have size that fits a narrow view of consumers how will they possibly make a profit off such low sales?
If you say that they will sell these online what will be the shipping costs, who will install them, and how will you get them to an Apple Store for service the way you can with the current AppleTV?
Where is the financial benefit to Apple when they only sold 1M AppleTVs last quarter that are only $99 and connect to any and all monitors and TVs with an HDMI port?
Apple announces 'one size fits all' : A mini-like base with modules atop; one module - basic; two modules - intermediate; three modules - pro. Two monitors: one 27"; the other a 21". Production costs plummet and prices drop. Apple stock soars to record high.
Whoa, that's strong stuff I've been inhaling.
I desperately need to replace my 2003 vintage Power Mac G5 and don't have much $$$.
I would be happy if they would release an updated Mini!
I don't think a better ATV will require intensive training...unless...it now has apps? Mmmm, that makes me happy to think about.
Leave-freeze, blackout screens, overnight vigil, staff training, early-morning prayers, new hardware, new products, staff phones and cameras locked in a safe and NDA's to be signed by staff already under NDA's?
What can this mean? Apple can't bring out any new version of its current hardware, unless it's the next iPhone. Some entirely new product range that no-one has envisaged? Perhaps, but more likely it is some new software brought to current hardware that makes it a "Game Changer"?
Of course, there is one Apple hardware product that currently runs some Apple software, but not a lot, and that is the AppleTV. The AirPlay functionality has recently allowed the AppleTV to let iPads control HD TV's in terms of media. So my guess is that new software for the AppleTV lets it run games on an attached HDTV, using an iPad as a controller, and that some of that functionality relies on the new Apple server farm.
My next guess is that the "Bumper iPhone Case" now has a chip embedded that will allow you to use your iPhone as a credit card to pay for all this game playing .....
Ditch the Mac Mini and the Mac Pro, replacing it with a Sandy Bridge-based tower that is configurable to meet a wide range of needs.
This device would be much smaller than the Mac Pro but larger than the Mini, using desktop components that provide far more bang for the buck than the laptop components in the Mini.
The server version of the Mini would remain but be provided with a Sandy Bridge update.
Think headless iMac.
The key to all of this would be that with Thunderbolt, expanding outside the basic box is now viable with excellent performance potential.
This new machine would start at let's say $799 (Cdn.) with the 2.5Ghz Quad-Core Intel i5, 4GB of RAM, a 500GB hard drive and the AMD Radeon HD 6750M with 512MB. In other words the pieces found in the entry iMac minus the input devices and monitor. The next step up would be a $1099 version with a 2.7 i5 a 1TB hard drive and the Radeon 5770M with 512MB and then top it off with a 3.1Ghz quad-core and the 6879M with a 1GB for $1,399. Maybe offer even more hosrepower via BTO options.
I can't imagine that there would be that many potential customers who would be upset over such offerings because on the low end, for not much more money one could have a lot more computer and on the top end, for considerably less money, not much less computer.
As it stands, both ends of the spectrum are not being well-served by current offerings. Maybe there was a time when what Apple had done made sense but that time has passed. This anniversary would be a great time to correct the situation. Brand new form factor and a simplification of Apple's monitor-less desktop offerings. What's not to like. Besides, with both products not having been undated in almost a year, they're overdue.
You know why the Macintosh 128k didn't have any expansion? Because Steve Jobs didn't want people messing around with HIS computer.
The xMac won't exist until Steve is gone. Even then, there's no reason for it to exist. You're less than 10% of the population. EVERYONE ELSE couldn't care less about upgrading their machines, and the iMac is perfectly fine for any of them.
Leave-freeze, blackout screens, overnight vigil, staff training, early-morning prayers, new hardware, new products, staff phones and cameras locked in a safe and NDA's to be signed by staff already under NDA's?
What can this mean? Apple can't bring out any new version of its current hardware, unless it's the next iPhone. Some entirely new product range that no-one has envisaged? Perhaps, but more likely it is some new software brought to current hardware that makes it a "Game Changer"?
Of course, there is one Apple hardware product that currently runs some Apple software, but not a lot, and that is the AppleTV. The AirPlay functionality has recently allowed the AppleTV to let iPads control HD TV's in terms of media. So my guess is that new software for the AppleTV lets it run games on an attached HDTV, using an iPad as a controller, and that some of that functionality relies on the new Apple server farm.
My next guess is that the "Bumper iPhone Case" now has a chip embedded that will allow you to use your iPhone as a credit card to pay for all this game playing .....
Of course I do not know enough about how the Apple Store operates. Last time I bought a relatively small product, the salesperson asked me if I wanted a bag, and to be environmentally-friendly I said no, so the salesperson reached under the table, brought out a sticker and fixed it to my purchase. If I was an evil-minded person, could I reach under the table, bring out a similar sticker and fix it to any Apple product?
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But you?ll need an SDK and demos for both the devs and consumers to get behind the idea of apps on a TV done right. There is no way this could be introduced on a Sunday.
Sure it could. Recall how the iPhone was released without any 3rd party apps, SDK's or demos. Apple would want to provide a clear direction with in house apps that set a standard for a new way to interact with a 'simple' TV remote. Training for a third interface paradigm (fourth if you include command line interface with mouse/keyboard, multitouch, and remote control or whatever the new one might be) could justify the added training time. Of course Microsoft has its media center computer, Google has its Google TV but this new Apple product would be easily distinguished just like the iPad is so different from all the preceding tablets.
Yep, I'm going to predict a new TV product available only through Apple Stores (initially) because they just aren't crowded enough already.
Sure it could. Recall how the iPhone was released without any 3rd party apps, SDK's or demos. Apple would want to provide a clear direction with in house apps that set a standard for a new way to interact with a 'simple' TV remote. Training for a third interface paradigm (fourth if you include command line interface with mouse/keyboard, multitouch, and remote control or whatever the new one might be) could justify the added training time. Of course Microsoft has its media center computer, Google has its Google TV but this new Apple product would be easily distinguished just like the iPad is so different from all the preceding tablets.
Yep, I'm going to predict a new TV product available only through Apple Stores (initially) because they just aren't crowded enough already.
1) No, Apple announced the iPhone with a full on demo.
2) No, Apple released 3rd-party apps and an SDK with a full on demo.
3) Offering a new AppleTV HW, say, updated to A5 would still be using the same iOS so it?s not like it would be a new OS? which they did with a full on demo both times.
They will be serving cake.
For those who are still alive.
Yay! for the rare Portal reference on these boards. Now back to the testing!
At last, an iPhone worth owning.
I have it from reliable sources that they have seen the writing on the wall. Jobs has decided if you can't beat them join them, and will be releasing an iPhone running android 2.3
At last, an iPhone worth owning.
Yes and you really are SselNairb.
Personally I think the way to celebrate 10 years would be a limited edition product. Maybe a limited edition RED iPhone, with 10% of profit going to charity. THAT would draw crowds.
On the other hand, if Apple are sitting on billions of dollars cash, maybe everyone who presents at an Apple Store with an iOS device gets a voucher for $100!
Plus $5 Skype credit and a GoogleTV.
I could be wrong, but why in hell would CROWDS of people go to the Apple store for iCloud?
It WILL be new ?
It WILL be cool ?
it WILL be exciting ?
It WILL be talked about ?
Or will it?
Hell with all of the hype leading up to it, it could be nothing more then (as pointed out earlier) a 10th Anniversary t-shirt, and YES we know crowds will be there for it.
Skip
Whoa, that's strong stuff I've been inhaling.
HumancentiPad!
Will this be US only or UK as well?
I like your style!!!
Anything think new MobileMe or will that be put in with the iCloud?
I could be wrong, but why in hell would CROWDS of people go to the Apple store for iCloud?
That would be plain bizarre. "Hey everyone, come to our physical Apple Stores... Where we'll show you what you can access anywhere, anytime through the Cloud!".
We shall see.And you shall be renamed crow eating shortest skil.
Or you could give me one logical reason the past seven years don't fit with my standpoint and obviously fit with yours.
Or something easier: one logical reason for Apple to do this at all.
I give it less than two years.
Same quote from everyone saying this since 2004. You'll have to do better than that.
Stop making sense, they won't listen anyway.
Apple announces 'one size fits all' : A mini-like base with modules atop; one module - basic; two modules - intermediate; three modules - pro. Two monitors: one 27"; the other a 21". Production costs plummet and prices drop. Apple stock soars to record high.
Whoa, that's strong stuff I've been inhaling.
I desperately need to replace my 2003 vintage Power Mac G5 and don't have much $$$.
I would be happy if they would release an updated Mini!
I don't think a better ATV will require intensive training...unless...it now has apps? Mmmm, that makes me happy to think about.
Leave-freeze, blackout screens, overnight vigil, staff training, early-morning prayers, new hardware, new products, staff phones and cameras locked in a safe and NDA's to be signed by staff already under NDA's?
What can this mean? Apple can't bring out any new version of its current hardware, unless it's the next iPhone. Some entirely new product range that no-one has envisaged? Perhaps, but more likely it is some new software brought to current hardware that makes it a "Game Changer"?
Of course, there is one Apple hardware product that currently runs some Apple software, but not a lot, and that is the AppleTV. The AirPlay functionality has recently allowed the AppleTV to let iPads control HD TV's in terms of media. So my guess is that new software for the AppleTV lets it run games on an attached HDTV, using an iPad as a controller, and that some of that functionality relies on the new Apple server farm.
My next guess is that the "Bumper iPhone Case" now has a chip embedded that will allow you to use your iPhone as a credit card to pay for all this game playing .....
new macPro's ditching xeon for sandy bridge.
that's my guess.
Ditch the Mac Mini and the Mac Pro, replacing it with a Sandy Bridge-based tower that is configurable to meet a wide range of needs.
This device would be much smaller than the Mac Pro but larger than the Mini, using desktop components that provide far more bang for the buck than the laptop components in the Mini.
The server version of the Mini would remain but be provided with a Sandy Bridge update.
Think headless iMac.
The key to all of this would be that with Thunderbolt, expanding outside the basic box is now viable with excellent performance potential.
This new machine would start at let's say $799 (Cdn.) with the 2.5Ghz Quad-Core Intel i5, 4GB of RAM, a 500GB hard drive and the AMD Radeon HD 6750M with 512MB. In other words the pieces found in the entry iMac minus the input devices and monitor. The next step up would be a $1099 version with a 2.7 i5 a 1TB hard drive and the Radeon 5770M with 512MB and then top it off with a 3.1Ghz quad-core and the 6879M with a 1GB for $1,399. Maybe offer even more hosrepower via BTO options.
I can't imagine that there would be that many potential customers who would be upset over such offerings because on the low end, for not much more money one could have a lot more computer and on the top end, for considerably less money, not much less computer.
As it stands, both ends of the spectrum are not being well-served by current offerings. Maybe there was a time when what Apple had done made sense but that time has passed. This anniversary would be a great time to correct the situation. Brand new form factor and a simplification of Apple's monitor-less desktop offerings. What's not to like. Besides, with both products not having been undated in almost a year, they're overdue.
xMac spiel
You know why the Macintosh 128k didn't have any expansion? Because Steve Jobs didn't want people messing around with HIS computer.
The xMac won't exist until Steve is gone. Even then, there's no reason for it to exist. You're less than 10% of the population. EVERYONE ELSE couldn't care less about upgrading their machines, and the iMac is perfectly fine for any of them.
Leave-freeze, blackout screens, overnight vigil, staff training, early-morning prayers, new hardware, new products, staff phones and cameras locked in a safe and NDA's to be signed by staff already under NDA's?
What can this mean? Apple can't bring out any new version of its current hardware, unless it's the next iPhone. Some entirely new product range that no-one has envisaged? Perhaps, but more likely it is some new software brought to current hardware that makes it a "Game Changer"?
Of course, there is one Apple hardware product that currently runs some Apple software, but not a lot, and that is the AppleTV. The AirPlay functionality has recently allowed the AppleTV to let iPads control HD TV's in terms of media. So my guess is that new software for the AppleTV lets it run games on an attached HDTV, using an iPad as a controller, and that some of that functionality relies on the new Apple server farm.
My next guess is that the "Bumper iPhone Case" now has a chip embedded that will allow you to use your iPhone as a credit card to pay for all this game playing .....
Of course I do not know enough about how the Apple Store operates. Last time I bought a relatively small product, the salesperson asked me if I wanted a bag, and to be environmentally-friendly I said no, so the salesperson reached under the table, brought out a sticker and fixed it to my purchase. If I was an evil-minded person, could I reach under the table, bring out a similar sticker and fix it to any Apple product?