Why more RAM? I just updated to 8Gigs, and felt on top of the world my my super fast parallels awesomeness. Are you telling me I need to go to 16 now? If lion is a memory hog I'm gonna be pissed.
Yeah right by making Mac look more like Windows please. So tell me what is so ground breaking about Lion that you cannot already do in Snow Leopard. Mission Control and Launchpad are just gimmicks to try and attract non Mac iOS users.
You mean other than system-wide support for full-screen applications, Resume, auto save, Versions, Air Drop, improved Mail, Lion Server ($50), Cocoa AppleScript, updated Automator, File Vault 2 (full disk encryption, not just your home directory, among other things), tweaked Finder, tweaked iCal, Internet Restore and related utilities, networking improvements, tweaked Preview, tweaked QuickTime Player, per-user screen sharing (multiple users logged in simultaneously, too), Xsan built in, new APIs to support lots of new capability...
I'm not too fond of some of the iOS stuff creeping onto the desktop, but I'm willing to give it a fair chance. Problem is I still use some PowerPC software on a regular basis.
Users like me who still use older software have three options:
1. Replace everything we own from the PowerPC era even if there's no direct replacement available
2. Continue to use older Macs with an older OS
3. Pirate Snow Leopard Server and run it in a virtual machine
4. Install SL on an external drive and boot from that when you need to run, what, Quicken?
I have reliable 3-4 Mb/s connections in Canada, Mexico and France and have no problems with a 4 GB download. 50 Mb/s would be nicer, but more expensive ...
Much of the developed world has significantly better internet access infrastructure than the U.S.
People really do need to remember that this upgrade is only $29. Autosave is worth that alone for me.
If I'd paid Windows upgrade prices maybe I'd be upset about what's included in Lion, but it's $29.
That said, I don't think Apple helped themselves by making such a big deal about full screen apps. Sure it will probably be useful, but honestly, I don't think it's special enough to show off about.
This includes complimentary iCloud services that will come built into the software, offering a means of automatic data synchronization that is both unparalleled in the computing industry, and paramount in an age when consumers are adopting a digital lifestyle in which they own and operate multiple mobile devices.
People could always setup their own server and this seems (as everyone has been doing) to overlook the fact that mobile me did a lot of what iCloud will - just for a price.
People really do need to remember that this upgrade is only $29. Autosave is worth that alone for me.
There are dozens of features. Almost nothing was left untouched. This upgrade is practically a give away.
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If I'd paid Windows upgrade prices maybe I'd be upset about what's included in Lion, but it's $29.
Honestly? I ask because this update is huge, there is more going on in this update that in any recent windows update.
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That said, I don't think Apple helped themselves by making such a big deal about full screen apps. Sure it will probably be useful, but honestly, I don't think it's special enough to show off about.
It is one of those things you either develope a taste for or don't. That doesn't make it good or bad. However on compact machines every little bit of screen helps. In the end I suspect more people will use the feature than not.
In any event Apple is only hyping a few things really hard because it is trying to ignite interest and motivate adoption. Even the publically announced info highlights 250 features. That is pretty huge and should be coupled with other features yet to be revealed.
It is one of those things you either develope a taste for or don't. That doesn't make it good or bad. However on compact machines every little bit of screen helps. In the end I suspect more people will use the feature than not.
There's also a calmness to full screen apps, when they're done well and controlling screen transitions is made easy and natural. The clutter and noise of your desktop falls away to be replaced with something entirely focused on what you're doing.
Macbook Air 3G. What do we reckon? Just a thought.
I hope all their notebooks get a cellular data options. Looks like Apple has standardized the size in the current iPad, have made it a separate board, and made it quite small.
So that is your answer you just going to accept anything that Apple do just because they are Apple. I was trying to instigate a genuine discussion about the direction they are moving in which with Lion from what I have read and seen so far doesn't bode well for the future of the Mac OS as I really can see little genuine innovation and imagination in this upgrade.
His answer is that he really can't tell you why you should upgrade - you will have to make this decision by yourself. If you have looked at the OSX page and don't see a reason to upgrade then don't upgrade. While not revolutionary, there seem to be a lot of things that have been upgraded that will make for a worthwhile update (though I will be waiting till the point 3 or 4 release before I update).
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At least someone got the humor....
Humorous statements without context are identical to their straight meaning.
Seems mainly eye candy they can't even implement tabbed browsing in the Finder or re-send email in Mail.
What do you mean re-send email? You've been able to do that for ages! Just go Message > Send again.
You can't wait six days? Heaven's sake, it STILL has problems.
Such as what exactly?
Using it on my main system now, running CS5, office 2011, vmware fusion etc on a daily basis, no problems since putting the GM on.
(This was from a fresh install on a 27" quad iMac. Overall performance is head and shoulders above snow leopard)
Yeah right by making Mac look more like Windows please. So tell me what is so ground breaking about Lion that you cannot already do in Snow Leopard. Mission Control and Launchpad are just gimmicks to try and attract non Mac iOS users.
You mean other than system-wide support for full-screen applications, Resume, auto save, Versions, Air Drop, improved Mail, Lion Server ($50), Cocoa AppleScript, updated Automator, File Vault 2 (full disk encryption, not just your home directory, among other things), tweaked Finder, tweaked iCal, Internet Restore and related utilities, networking improvements, tweaked Preview, tweaked QuickTime Player, per-user screen sharing (multiple users logged in simultaneously, too), Xsan built in, new APIs to support lots of new capability...
You mean other than that kind of thing?
I'm not too fond of some of the iOS stuff creeping onto the desktop, but I'm willing to give it a fair chance. Problem is I still use some PowerPC software on a regular basis.
Users like me who still use older software have three options:
1. Replace everything we own from the PowerPC era even if there's no direct replacement available
2. Continue to use older Macs with an older OS
3. Pirate Snow Leopard Server and run it in a virtual machine
4. Install SL on an external drive and boot from that when you need to run, what, Quicken?
Yeh but I wanted a pony
Keep shoveling!
Great. Looking forward to breaking my printer drivers. 10.6.8 already took care of the scanner.
Google Vuescan...
I have reliable 3-4 Mb/s connections in Canada, Mexico and France and have no problems with a 4 GB download. 50 Mb/s would be nicer, but more expensive ...
Much of the developed world has significantly better internet access infrastructure than the U.S.
Yeh but I wanted a pony
LoL. Well, now that they are running out of big cats, perhaps they can do Mac OS X 10.8 A Pony.
If I'd paid Windows upgrade prices maybe I'd be upset about what's included in Lion, but it's $29.
That said, I don't think Apple helped themselves by making such a big deal about full screen apps. Sure it will probably be useful, but honestly, I don't think it's special enough to show off about.
Yeh but I wanted a pony
you are my hero
Then obviously, all you've read is the headline, or you simply don't understand why the innovations are so important.
I think he has... just stating that for content and power user folks this isn't innovation inside, but iOS on the outside...
or you simply don't understand why for serious users the underlying platform innovations are so important
This includes complimentary iCloud services that will come built into the software, offering a means of automatic data synchronization that is both unparalleled in the computing industry, and paramount in an age when consumers are adopting a digital lifestyle in which they own and operate multiple mobile devices.
People could always setup their own server and this seems (as everyone has been doing) to overlook the fact that mobile me did a lot of what iCloud will - just for a price.
People really do need to remember that this upgrade is only $29. Autosave is worth that alone for me.
There are dozens of features. Almost nothing was left untouched. This upgrade is practically a give away.
If I'd paid Windows upgrade prices maybe I'd be upset about what's included in Lion, but it's $29.
Honestly? I ask because this update is huge, there is more going on in this update that in any recent windows update.
That said, I don't think Apple helped themselves by making such a big deal about full screen apps. Sure it will probably be useful, but honestly, I don't think it's special enough to show off about.
It is one of those things you either develope a taste for or don't. That doesn't make it good or bad. However on compact machines every little bit of screen helps. In the end I suspect more people will use the feature than not.
In any event Apple is only hyping a few things really hard because it is trying to ignite interest and motivate adoption. Even the publically announced info highlights 250 features. That is pretty huge and should be coupled with other features yet to be revealed.
It is one of those things you either develope a taste for or don't. That doesn't make it good or bad. However on compact machines every little bit of screen helps. In the end I suspect more people will use the feature than not.
There's also a calmness to full screen apps, when they're done well and controlling screen transitions is made easy and natural. The clutter and noise of your desktop falls away to be replaced with something entirely focused on what you're doing.
Macbook Air 3G. What do we reckon? Just a thought.
I hope all their notebooks get a cellular data options. Looks like Apple has standardized the size in the current iPad, have made it a separate board, and made it quite small.
So that is your answer you just going to accept anything that Apple do just because they are Apple. I was trying to instigate a genuine discussion about the direction they are moving in which with Lion from what I have read and seen so far doesn't bode well for the future of the Mac OS as I really can see little genuine innovation and imagination in this upgrade.
His answer is that he really can't tell you why you should upgrade - you will have to make this decision by yourself. If you have looked at the OSX page and don't see a reason to upgrade then don't upgrade. While not revolutionary, there seem to be a lot of things that have been upgraded that will make for a worthwhile update (though I will be waiting till the point 3 or 4 release before I update).
Can you list what *signficant* apps are actually using Grand Central Dispatch, btw?
Do you even know what GCD is? It is a key technology, frankly any developer not using it is incompetent.