Which is why every rumor about a possible Apple product must be true?
The fact that Apple sometimes makes things that people thought they wouldn't doesn't mean thinking they won't make something is evidence that they will.
I see so much snarkiness spat about with regard to the ridiculousness surrounding even the mere possibility of Apple offering televisions and most of it is in reference to the utter lack of profit it would generate due to the availability of other screens; highlighting the AppleTV box as far superior.
If such is the case, why produce the iMac? Why not focus all attention on Mac Mini and let all the other companies duke it out over the peripherals?
Apple's schtick is "it just works" right out of the box. They must be thinking their way around the craziness of the absolute fire hazard of hydra-like wire tentacles I have behind my tv stand. Offering it all-in-one just seems the logical Apple answer... they're just biding their time for the perfect solution.
Hopefully with Full PiP. After image quality, the most important feature of a TV set for many people is the Full Picture-in-Picture (Full PiP), which requires at least two tuners inside the TV set.
OK - throw in FaceTime and iPhone capability and I'll buy two. That and a case of Depends, as I'll never need to leave the couch.
Seriously, if I can answer the phone (or screen calls) with my remote, and have the live presence that Ellen Page kept offering us in those Cisco ads, you have a player. But it better be within a few dollars of the cost of a first-tier 42" 1080 HDTV + ATV. Apple's MO is to add capability at the same(ish) price point.
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Originally Posted by lucasland
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Just wanted to give you some inside info about these tv's
They will offer a new IPTV service from Apple. This is what their new data and upcoming data farms are really for.
Apple will make it so easy to watch tv now and in the future.
Buy, unbox, plug into outlet, plug into ethernet and turn on. No more set top boxes!
When you turn on tv, Apple will offer you a new tv experience you will be able to subscribe too. All your favorite channels, on demand movies, live sports and great apps that you can select on a sidebar or overlay live picture.
Apple's schtick is "it just works" right out of the box. They must be thinking their way around the craziness of the absolute fire hazard of hydra-like wire tentacles I have behind my tv stand. Offering it all-in-one just seems the logical Apple answer... they're just biding their time for the perfect solution.
I'm of the belief that Apple thinks they've already solved that problem.
From the outlet in the wall, the power cord connects to the Apple TV. From the Apple TV, the HDMI cable goes to the TV and the optical audio cable goes to whatever audio setup you have. The rest of the cabling isn't considered to be their responsibility, I think, and nothing that Apple could do in the way of hardware expansion beyond the Apple TV could do anything about that.
At least, not until we have wireless power and wireless data transmission for surround sound systems.
I can't see Apple offering a large screen TV solution before they can develop a solution to deliver "live TV" to the iPad (maybe using ATV).
It is not a hardware, software or app problem -- rather a logistical problem -- working with or around the cable companies, broadcasters and the content owners.
I don't get this. Do you mean a sort of reverse AirPlay, from ATV to the iPad? What would be the logisitcal problem with that, from the point of view of the Great Providers?
Then TV makers set their devices to get all cable channels.
Then Cable went to digital.
Then TV makers revamped their devices to see digital.
June 12, 2009 was supposed to be the day of one-wire goodness at last.
Now Comcast (at least - YMMV) has rejiggered their signals so that digital TVs don't get anything but basic.
So we're back to some model of their box for anything except locals, PBS and spanish TV (which I admit I find mesmerizing, especially the telenovelas, though I've forgotten 85% of any Spanish I ever learned). Used to be you paid for the service and except for PPV and premiums, your up to date set got the channels. Now you have to pay the proper rate AND have their box.
So bueno suerte getting Kabletown to let you have their box inside yours, unless there is a revenue stream back to them.
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Originally Posted by lucasland
Appletv was always a "hobby" or experiment, cause Steve does not like set top boxes. The new apple tv will have the current appletv box inside. no need to try to explain to customers what it is, how to use it, how to switch from their cable box to appletv. you may laugh, but many people just don't "get" the apple tv box.
Apple will push the envelope with their new iptv HDTV's. they will also have the ability to access their cable channels if their cable company will cater to them and let them have no box. Apple is going to use this new tv to try to push set top boxes out the door
I don't get this. Do you mean a sort of reverse AirPlay, from ATV to the iPad? What would be the logisitcal problem with that, from the point of view of the Great Providers?
I want to watch local news on my iPad, then switch to a MLS soccer match... then, after that watch "The Two Fat Ladies"...
Meanwhile, the other 4 iPads are each doing their own thing -- some watching NASCAR, The "Nacho Libre Clench", Spongebob, Chopped, Friends... whatever
Edit: Solve "Personal TV" first -- then "Communal TV"
Apple currently supports its iOS devices for about two years before dropping them from getting iOS updates. An HDTV screen can last for a whole lot longer than that. I'll be damned if I'd pay thousands for a TV that needs to be replaced so soon when I can just buy a dumb screen that will last for many years and then connect a $100 box to that that I can replace in a couple years.
The dumb box also makes it easy to split the signal and send it to two TVs--one in the kitchen and one in the living room. Very useful when cooking and moving back and forth between rooms.
Haha, if Apple didn't do that, the iOS installed base would be fractured like a certain Google OS that shall not be named
No, I predict that an Apple-branded TV would use their minimalist Apple Remote and force everyone to use Thunderbolt connectors. It would however support AirPlay, connect to iCloud, and stream music from your iTunes music library.
I'm still more inclined to see Apple create a more robust AppleTV that turns the TV into a dumb monitor much in the same way an A/V receiver does, just with a great UI that overlays on the display and connects with your home network devices.
It would be interesting what Apple does with screen sizes. With iOS Devices Apple only offers 1 choice of screen size. With Mac, Apple offers 2 different screen sizes for each model. O but the Apple Thunderbolt Display is only offered in 1 size which is 27 inches, but its not really a mac so that one is Tricky. Technically that already is a TV, hell technically All Apples devices with screens are TV's if u think about it. What do they have that Apples Devices don't have, other than a component or HDMI Port, which Apples Mac Mini and Apple TV have, but obviously they lack the screens. Apple may make something similar to their Thunderbold Display with an HDMI Port built in.
I want to watch local news on my iPad, then switch to a MLS soccer match... then, after that watch "The Two Fat Ladies"...
1. I too would like to get "live" tv into the iPad, either wirelessly or wiredly. I'm still waiting for the app, and don't see what is the problm. No API? Why not?
2. Watch out for those Two Fat Ladies. In the mushroom-hunting episode with the Girl Scouts, they mis-identify an ordinary Russula as a "deadly" Amanita muscaria! Inexcusable -- the A. muscaria is not deadly, it just has interesting effects.
If Apple manufactures HDTV then that will be a surprise. The market for that is crowded and the technology is patented to the hilt. IMHO, Apple, if they don't partner, will be in for another round of legal disputes - Sony and Samsung have shown that way. Good luck Apple as this ain't like the rest of the markets you've entered.
1. I too would like to get "live" tv into the iPad, either wirelessly or wiredly. I'm still waiting for the app, and don't see what is the problm. No API? Why not?
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OH LOOK IT'S OUT.
It was "inevitable" seven years ago, too.
You knew what I meant dumbass.
What's 'inevitable' is that I will be correct an you will be wrong. Deja Vu
Which is why every rumor about a possible Apple product must be true?
The fact that Apple sometimes makes things that people thought they wouldn't doesn't mean thinking they won't make something is evidence that they will.
... some are some, and some are not!
You knew what I meant...
Of course I did. And I still reject it.
If such is the case, why produce the iMac? Why not focus all attention on Mac Mini and let all the other companies duke it out over the peripherals?
Apple's schtick is "it just works" right out of the box. They must be thinking their way around the craziness of the absolute fire hazard of hydra-like wire tentacles I have behind my tv stand. Offering it all-in-one just seems the logical Apple answer... they're just biding their time for the perfect solution.
Seriously, if I can answer the phone (or screen calls) with my remote, and have the live presence that Ellen Page kept offering us in those Cisco ads, you have a player. But it better be within a few dollars of the cost of a first-tier 42" 1080 HDTV + ATV. Apple's MO is to add capability at the same(ish) price point.
Signed up on your site
Just wanted to give you some inside info about these tv's
They will offer a new IPTV service from Apple. This is what their new data and upcoming data farms are really for.
Apple will make it so easy to watch tv now and in the future.
Buy, unbox, plug into outlet, plug into ethernet and turn on. No more set top boxes!
When you turn on tv, Apple will offer you a new tv experience you will be able to subscribe too. All your favorite channels, on demand movies, live sports and great apps that you can select on a sidebar or overlay live picture.
It will be a game changer in the tv industry.
Apple's schtick is "it just works" right out of the box. They must be thinking their way around the craziness of the absolute fire hazard of hydra-like wire tentacles I have behind my tv stand. Offering it all-in-one just seems the logical Apple answer... they're just biding their time for the perfect solution.
I'm of the belief that Apple thinks they've already solved that problem.
From the outlet in the wall, the power cord connects to the Apple TV. From the Apple TV, the HDMI cable goes to the TV and the optical audio cable goes to whatever audio setup you have. The rest of the cabling isn't considered to be their responsibility, I think, and nothing that Apple could do in the way of hardware expansion beyond the Apple TV could do anything about that.
At least, not until we have wireless power and wireless data transmission for surround sound systems.
I can't see Apple offering a large screen TV solution before they can develop a solution to deliver "live TV" to the iPad (maybe using ATV).
It is not a hardware, software or app problem -- rather a logistical problem -- working with or around the cable companies, broadcasters and the content owners.
I don't get this. Do you mean a sort of reverse AirPlay, from ATV to the iPad? What would be the logisitcal problem with that, from the point of view of the Great Providers?
3d
1080p
hd
great looking
TV
build with samsung
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We all struggled with cable boxes for years.
Then TV makers set their devices to get all cable channels.
Then Cable went to digital.
Then TV makers revamped their devices to see digital.
June 12, 2009 was supposed to be the day of one-wire goodness at last.
Now Comcast (at least - YMMV) has rejiggered their signals so that digital TVs don't get anything but basic.
So we're back to some model of their box for anything except locals, PBS and spanish TV (which I admit I find mesmerizing, especially the telenovelas, though I've forgotten 85% of any Spanish I ever learned). Used to be you paid for the service and except for PPV and premiums, your up to date set got the channels. Now you have to pay the proper rate AND have their box.
So bueno suerte getting Kabletown to let you have their box inside yours, unless there is a revenue stream back to them.
Appletv was always a "hobby" or experiment, cause Steve does not like set top boxes. The new apple tv will have the current appletv box inside. no need to try to explain to customers what it is, how to use it, how to switch from their cable box to appletv. you may laugh, but many people just don't "get" the apple tv box.
Apple will push the envelope with their new iptv HDTV's. they will also have the ability to access their cable channels if their cable company will cater to them and let them have no box. Apple is going to use this new tv to try to push set top boxes out the door
it will be a gaming
3d
1080p
hd
great looking
TV
build with samsung
Have to agree about the 3d part, but get ready for some moaning about gimmickry.
edit: . . . and goofy/stupid/ugly glasses . . .
I don't get this. Do you mean a sort of reverse AirPlay, from ATV to the iPad? What would be the logisitcal problem with that, from the point of view of the Great Providers?
I want to watch local news on my iPad, then switch to a MLS soccer match... then, after that watch "The Two Fat Ladies"...
Meanwhile, the other 4 iPads are each doing their own thing -- some watching NASCAR, The "Nacho Libre Clench", Spongebob, Chopped, Friends... whatever
Edit: Solve "Personal TV" first -- then "Communal TV"
Apple currently supports its iOS devices for about two years before dropping them from getting iOS updates. An HDTV screen can last for a whole lot longer than that. I'll be damned if I'd pay thousands for a TV that needs to be replaced so soon when I can just buy a dumb screen that will last for many years and then connect a $100 box to that that I can replace in a couple years.
The dumb box also makes it easy to split the signal and send it to two TVs--one in the kitchen and one in the living room. Very useful when cooking and moving back and forth between rooms.
Haha, if Apple didn't do that, the iOS installed base would be fractured like a certain Google OS that shall not be named
No, I predict that an Apple-branded TV would use their minimalist Apple Remote and force everyone to use Thunderbolt connectors. It would however support AirPlay, connect to iCloud, and stream music from your iTunes music library.
What's 'inevitable' is that I will be correct an you will be wrong. Deja Vu
Deja vu how? Because I was wrong about the iPhone nano, xMac, and OS X tablet?
Might want to check Apple's offerings again. None of those exist.
I want to watch local news on my iPad, then switch to a MLS soccer match... then, after that watch "The Two Fat Ladies"...
1. I too would like to get "live" tv into the iPad, either wirelessly or wiredly. I'm still waiting for the app, and don't see what is the problm. No API? Why not?
2. Watch out for those Two Fat Ladies. In the mushroom-hunting episode with the Girl Scouts, they mis-identify an ordinary Russula as a "deadly" Amanita muscaria! Inexcusable -- the A. muscaria is not deadly, it just has interesting effects.
1. I too would like to get "live" tv into the iPad, either wirelessly or wiredly. I'm still waiting for the app, and don't see what is the problm. No API? Why not?
The two Apple TV sports services already do this.
You knew what I meant dumbass.
What's 'inevitable' is that I will be correct an you will be wrong. Deja Vu
One more time?