No, actually, it's not. As any sane person giving it a moment's thought would realize.
I'm sorry you were not raised to respect others, but it really is.
Going to a funeral and yelling "you're all idiots for liking this guy" is just as offensive as yelling "this guy was an idiot." If you think Apple and Google hated each other half as much as your (apparent) fanatic distaste for Google is you're seriously mistaken. It is no secret that people at the top of Google were very close to Steve Jobs and/or admired him. Hell, who didn't in the technology world? Regardless, I don't doubt that Google simply wanted to take time and show respect for him. Your disrespect for them for doing this is disgusting.
This is more like their wait and see approach for the iP4S feature set. So that they can reset and add or announce additional features to trump the iP4S.
I prefer to believe the best in people -- even those who have acted badly in the past!
"Even a blind hog finds an acorn now and then"
The above belief is tempered by the fact that I, personally, have nothing to lose by believing their motives.
Not agreeing or disagreeing but... hogs find acorns by sniffing the ground, not by looking. A blind hog who relies on sense of smell more may in fact find more acorns. My 3.5 acorns.
Does anybody think that Apple would ever cancel an event if the head of Google or Samsung happened to die?
I'm sure that Apple would release some polite sounding statement and offer condolences, but they wouldn't cancel any event, nor should they.
I think they might delay the keynote for the next OSX if Gates passed away a week before. Or at least made sure any disparaging Windows remarks were scrubbed. Then they'd need to re-reherse...so they might as well delay a bit.
Are you people suggesting that Google and Samsung had such contempt for Apple and Steve that none of the higher ups (whom openly praised Steve) actually may be doing this out of respect to Steve?
I never really knew how deep your collective hatred of anything not Apple was until now.
It really is pathetic.
If they had respected Steve, they would have acted differently while he was alive.
Remember Google I/O with Vic Gundotra in 2010? "If Google did not act, our future would belong to one man, one company, one vision," with a 1984 scene on the slideshow behind him. And we're supposed to take this guy's little "Steve story" seriously, as if he and Steve were best buds? Give me a break.
It is absolutely NOT "hatred of anything not Apple." It is contempt for people like Gundotra who scorned Steve while he was alive, and now are jumping on the "We love Steve" bandwagon after he is gone.
I didn't see anyone make this point, so I'll make it.
The motives behind this are going to be hard to separate out because the current situation leads to a convergence of reasons for delaying the keynote. Assuming that there are no real business downsides, delaying allows them to show some respect for SJ and spares them being overshadowed in the media. I doubt it is about product problems since it is probably too close to launch to fix those, but who knows.
It doesn't matter. Trying to argue that one motive was more important than the other is rather meaningless, because I doubt Google or Samsung will tell us, which is the only way we would know for sure. Slamming them for doing it for the wrong (subjective assessment anyway) motive is even more untenable. They had all the reasons for delaying and none for not delaying. What else would make sense?
What does launching a product have to do with respect or disrespect. Were they planning to take cheap shots at Apple during the presentation? Why not use the launch as an opportunity to say something gracious about Steve Jobs in a public manner?
My humble opinion is they want to have a clear schedule leading up to their event without competing with Steve Jobs. And it leaves me feeling slightly icky about Google and Samsung. Not one single person would have looked at their event ? a week later ? and said "Oh this is so disrespectful of Google and Samsung having this event."
Not agreeing or disagreeing but... hogs find acorns by sniffing the ground, not by looking. A blind hog who relies on sense of smell more may in fact find more acorns. My 3.5 acorns.
Glad we have a swine expert amongst us here on AI!
If they had respected Steve, they would have acted differently while he was alive.
Remember Google I/O with Vic Gundotra in 2010? "If Google did not act, our future would belong to one man, one company, one vision," with a 1984 scene on the slideshow behind him. And we're supposed to take this guy's little "Steve story" seriously, as if he and Steve were best buds? Give me a break.
It is absolutely NOT "hatred of anything not Apple." It is contempt for people like Gundotra who scorned Steve while he was alive, and now are jumping on the "We love Steve" bandwagon after he is gone.
You're selectively picking pieces of factoids to justify your premise. Gundotra also wrote a very touching tribute to Steve Jobs before he died. Brin, Page and Schmidt all have repeatedly expressed their idolatry of Jobs well before his death.
It would not surprise me if you already know about this but choose only to highlight the negative because it justifies your passion to see only the worst in people/organizations you do not like.
That's too bad. You can never ever prove your point (because true motive cannot be proven). But why not learn to be happy and try to see the best in people when the possibility very much exists. Open your eyes and heart.
I don't know whether their stated motivation for this move is true or not. At the very least, I do think it's quite classy for both Google and Samsung to continue to pay their respects to SJ.
However, upon hearing this, the first thought I had was: What would Steve Jobs do? The only answer I came up with? Not this.
I cannot imagine SJ ever postponing an Apple event/announcement due to the death of a competitor's founder/chairman/CEO.
As such, even though Samsung and Google have stated their respect for SJ, a more fitting tribute would be to act as he would, put together an amazing presentation, then execute it on time, as originally planned. Essentially, "Show me, don't tell me".
No, actually, it's not. As any sane person giving it a moment's thought would realize.
A sane, rational person would think this way:
There's no way I can read minds of people I don't know. I have nothing to gain by assuming the worst unless I believe that cynicism might make me smarter than I really am. I choose to take someone's word at face value because it cannot be proven otherwise, and I have nothing else to gain or lose except happiness.
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No, actually, it's not. As any sane person giving it a moment's thought would realize.
I'm sorry you were not raised to respect others, but it really is.
Going to a funeral and yelling "you're all idiots for liking this guy" is just as offensive as yelling "this guy was an idiot." If you think Apple and Google hated each other half as much as your (apparent) fanatic distaste for Google is you're seriously mistaken. It is no secret that people at the top of Google were very close to Steve Jobs and/or admired him. Hell, who didn't in the technology world? Regardless, I don't doubt that Google simply wanted to take time and show respect for him. Your disrespect for them for doing this is disgusting.
Is it "teardrop" shaped? Maybe they copied the "iPhone 5".
copying a non existent device?
that would be like skating to where hte puck will be
oh wait, that analogy is trademarks for apple, right?
It is no secret that people at the top of Google were very close to Steve Jobs and/or admired him. Hell, who didn't in the technology world?
Ah...at least one. Although you have to stretch the definition of technology world pretty far in this case.
copying a non existent device?
that would be like skating to where hte puck will be
oh wait, that analogy is trademarks for apple, right?
well according to the German judge the Tab copied a non-existent device and was banned...soooo.
I'm sure that Apple would release some polite sounding statement and offer condolences, but they wouldn't cancel any event, nor should they.
Disagree!
I prefer to believe the best in people -- even those who have acted badly in the past!
"Even a blind hog finds an acorn now and then"
The above belief is tempered by the fact that I, personally, have nothing to lose by believing their motives.
Not agreeing or disagreeing but... hogs find acorns by sniffing the ground, not by looking. A blind hog who relies on sense of smell more may in fact find more acorns. My 3.5 acorns.
Does anybody think that Apple would ever cancel an event if the head of Google or Samsung happened to die?
I'm sure that Apple would release some polite sounding statement and offer condolences, but they wouldn't cancel any event, nor should they.
I think they might delay the keynote for the next OSX if Gates passed away a week before. Or at least made sure any disparaging Windows remarks were scrubbed. Then they'd need to re-reherse...so they might as well delay a bit.
Are you people suggesting that Google and Samsung had such contempt for Apple and Steve that none of the higher ups (whom openly praised Steve) actually may be doing this out of respect to Steve?
I never really knew how deep your collective hatred of anything not Apple was until now.
It really is pathetic.
If they had respected Steve, they would have acted differently while he was alive.
Remember Google I/O with Vic Gundotra in 2010? "If Google did not act, our future would belong to one man, one company, one vision," with a 1984 scene on the slideshow behind him. And we're supposed to take this guy's little "Steve story" seriously, as if he and Steve were best buds? Give me a break.
https://plus.google.com/107117483540...ts/gcSStkKxXTw
It is absolutely NOT "hatred of anything not Apple." It is contempt for people like Gundotra who scorned Steve while he was alive, and now are jumping on the "We love Steve" bandwagon after he is gone.
The motives behind this are going to be hard to separate out because the current situation leads to a convergence of reasons for delaying the keynote. Assuming that there are no real business downsides, delaying allows them to show some respect for SJ and spares them being overshadowed in the media. I doubt it is about product problems since it is probably too close to launch to fix those, but who knows.
It doesn't matter. Trying to argue that one motive was more important than the other is rather meaningless, because I doubt Google or Samsung will tell us, which is the only way we would know for sure. Slamming them for doing it for the wrong (subjective assessment anyway) motive is even more untenable. They had all the reasons for delaying and none for not delaying. What else would make sense?
My humble opinion is they want to have a clear schedule leading up to their event without competing with Steve Jobs. And it leaves me feeling slightly icky about Google and Samsung. Not one single person would have looked at their event ? a week later ? and said "Oh this is so disrespectful of Google and Samsung having this event."
Not agreeing or disagreeing but... hogs find acorns by sniffing the ground, not by looking. A blind hog who relies on sense of smell more may in fact find more acorns. My 3.5 acorns.
Glad we have a swine expert amongst us here on AI!
Glad we have a swine expert amongst us here on AI!
This is great! I think it's combination of business and respect even if everyone at googlesung doesn't have respect for SJ.
If they had respected Steve, they would have acted differently while he was alive.
Remember Google I/O with Vic Gundotra in 2010? "If Google did not act, our future would belong to one man, one company, one vision," with a 1984 scene on the slideshow behind him. And we're supposed to take this guy's little "Steve story" seriously, as if he and Steve were best buds? Give me a break.
https://plus.google.com/107117483540...ts/gcSStkKxXTw
It is absolutely NOT "hatred of anything not Apple." It is contempt for people like Gundotra who scorned Steve while he was alive, and now are jumping on the "We love Steve" bandwagon after he is gone.
You're selectively picking pieces of factoids to justify your premise. Gundotra also wrote a very touching tribute to Steve Jobs before he died. Brin, Page and Schmidt all have repeatedly expressed their idolatry of Jobs well before his death.
It would not surprise me if you already know about this but choose only to highlight the negative because it justifies your passion to see only the worst in people/organizations you do not like.
That's too bad. You can never ever prove your point (because true motive cannot be proven). But why not learn to be happy and try to see the best in people when the possibility very much exists. Open your eyes and heart.
Classy Move Google. Anything else would be in poor taste and exploitive.
Indeed. And those who insist on *exposing* an ulterior motive are in fact being exploitative.
However, upon hearing this, the first thought I had was: What would Steve Jobs do? The only answer I came up with? Not this.
I cannot imagine SJ ever postponing an Apple event/announcement due to the death of a competitor's founder/chairman/CEO.
As such, even though Samsung and Google have stated their respect for SJ, a more fitting tribute would be to act as he would, put together an amazing presentation, then execute it on time, as originally planned. Essentially, "Show me, don't tell me".
Just my $0.02.
RIP Steve Jobs
No, actually, it's not. As any sane person giving it a moment's thought would realize.
A sane, rational person would think this way:
There's no way I can read minds of people I don't know. I have nothing to gain by assuming the worst unless I believe that cynicism might make me smarter than I really am. I choose to take someone's word at face value because it cannot be proven otherwise, and I have nothing else to gain or lose except happiness.