I think this is Apple pre-orders only. Otherwise I would have expected a higher jump, given then larger installed base and the larger number of carriers even in the . Most people, however, will buy from their carrier. I will be in O2 - who dont have online ordering - on Friday, getting rid of the trusty 3GS. ( the times we had). . Pre-Ordering from the APple store would have cost me a lot more.
It's the arrogance of the bloggers & analysts that they think they speak for the people. I think it's been quite obvious for some time now that they don't really have a clue what people look for in a phone.
Apple didn't deliver a lot of super bells & whistles, they delivered a super polished device. To be quite honest I think what they were really upset about is that the form factor didn't change and the screen wasn't bigger. I really don't get the bigger screen thing, if you need a bigger screen get a tablet for crying out loud.
I forget the article now but I know it was in reference to customer satisfaction. I'm pretty sure stability/reliability is like #1 on peoples list for why they use a specific brand. Apple has %89 retention rate, HTC %39, and Samsung %28. It really doesn't mean anything at all how many you sell, a true measure of brand is how many customers you keep. Yeah I've heard the arguments that some of those are Android users switching to another brand but fact is people will keep buying what they bought before if they really liked it. %61 of HTC users decided they didn't want another HTC, %72 of Samsung users decided they didn't want another Samsung, that's the bottom line.
Oh, and %11 of iPhone users thought they'd find something better in an Android phone.
I was really tempted to get the Galaxy SII....but after having the Vibrant and it's lack of updates/force closing I just can't go back. Love their TVs. Love SuperAMOLED. Can't deal with the issues anymore.
Where are alll the people who were soooooooo dissappointed that there was no iPhone 5 AND because there was no iPhone 5 AND they were sooooooo disappointed they claimed the 4S would be a dud? I'll bet they crawled back under their rocks!
You do realize that unless they said "this won't sell" they can still have that opinion and not look stupid right?
Anywho...is anyone actually surprised? The iPhone will and should always sell well as long as it remains such a polished device/experience...that won't change soon if ever.
Question, if I want to get one in store....(LIKE ATT)....then what do I do? I mean, do they have instore preorders? (ATT). Do I stay outside? Do I have the plan set up before? I'm wondering...
You do realize that unless they said "this won't sell" they can still have that opinion and not look stupid right?
Anywho...is anyone actually surprised? The iPhone will and should always sell well as long as it remains such a polished device/experience...that won't change soon if ever.
It is not surprising that there were record first-day preorders since iPhone 3GS owners have been out-of-contract for a few months since this is the longest Apple went between upgrades.
The real question how many of these are new customers. Simply 3GS owners upgrading would not bode well for Apple.
Tell me - have you ever before chosen to purchase a product due to the death of the manufacturer's CEO?
Has there been a rash of CEO's dying lately?
Even if there were, still the purchasing of a product due to it would be assuaged by the fact that Steve, love him or hate him, had a more intimate relationship with the Apple faithful that spread over to the general public that would have probably said "Steve who?" then mention iPod creator and they say "Oh, that Steve!" and I don't really see or feel that with say a HTC's CEO, Ford's CEO, General Mills CEO, Dell's CEO, Amazon's CEO or MS CEO, etc.
I am sure there are quite a few "sympathy" purchases in the mix, but we'll never know.
The only other instance I see this "sympathy factory" even trying to be played is when a politician dies right before an election. Ted Kennedy is the latest that comes to mind, although that was probably more of a hinderance. Sen. Paul Wellstone, where at the Memorial for him became a pep rally / degradation of Republicans type event. That too didn't work out so well.
It is not surprising that there were record first-day preorders since iPhone 3GS owners have been out-of-contract for a few months since this is the longest Apple went between upgrades.
The real question how many of these are new customers. Simply 3GS owners upgrading would not bode well for Apple.
No, which is one of the problems I had with the iPhone 4S not looking a bit different. Nevertheless I think that they will sell the 30M, or so, they expect this Q.
Although I was one of the people disappointed with the lack of a new form factor - I have been waiting 26 months or so - I have come around to the 4S being a good idea. Why? Simply to release a new form factor in the holiday Q is probably a bit suicidal. They would never have met demand. In short they would have have greater demand, and lesser sales.
( For that reason I think the 5 should be updated early next year, or the year after. Hopefully, next).
Do I start camping Wednesday night or Thursday night? Only question left.
Partner is flying early to WashDC Saturday and wants to take a working 4S. Apple phone lady originally told me not to preorder because there was no guarantee the phones would come Friday for sure. So it's the Store (shrine) camp-out.
Both on the 3GS so this will be a rock the socks upgrade!
Keep in mind that there were plenty of people that waited out the Verizon iPhone 4 because a new iPhone was just around the corner. I'm sure some pent up demand helped. Besides, personally, i think the iPhone 4S was a pretty good upgrade. Dual core A5, faster graphics, Siri on steroids, new antenna... How much more would you want. Besides, I love the current form factor. That said, I'm not up for renewal until next Sept., so I'll be happy with my iPhone 4 until then.
Good for you, hopefully that will bode well for me. I ordered my phone within 5 mins of the Apple Website coming online, still I'm in the UK not America and Apple tends to preference the US over everyone else.
Hope mine updates to shipped soon!
*Edit* Hmmmm, a tad confused by the Apple site. Under my order it shows "Processing Items" then a little blue arrow followed by "Dispatched: Ships by October 14th", I have the option to cancel my order, how can something be dispatched and yet I am able to cancel the order?
Apple defintely has a good chance to win back Android users, and keep them. Using an Apple machine is a valve, going to Android is a revolving door.
Win back? Apple has lost very few users to Android. My brother made the switch because Verizon had not, yet, gotten the iPhone, but he cusses out his Droid X daily. He'll be back. Apple has a very high retention rate among users.
Tell me - have you ever before chosen to purchase a product due to the death of the manufacturer's CEO?
It does seem like an irrational way to make buying decisions. This past year I've purchased, an AppleTV2, iPad2, Airport Extreme, Core i7 MacBook Air, iPhone 4GS. All because they were designed and engineered well and offered good value for the money invested, not because SJ was sick and dying. He put a lot of love and caring in these products and Apple. I mourn his passing but I don't show it by buying Apple products.
Win back? Apple has lost very few users to Android. My brother made the switch because Verizon had not, yet, gotten the iPhone, but he cusses out his Droid X daily. He'll be back. Apple has a very high retention rate among users.
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It's the arrogance of the bloggers & analysts that they think they speak for the people. I think it's been quite obvious for some time now that they don't really have a clue what people look for in a phone.
Apple didn't deliver a lot of super bells & whistles, they delivered a super polished device. To be quite honest I think what they were really upset about is that the form factor didn't change and the screen wasn't bigger. I really don't get the bigger screen thing, if you need a bigger screen get a tablet for crying out loud.
I forget the article now but I know it was in reference to customer satisfaction. I'm pretty sure stability/reliability is like #1 on peoples list for why they use a specific brand. Apple has %89 retention rate, HTC %39, and Samsung %28. It really doesn't mean anything at all how many you sell, a true measure of brand is how many customers you keep. Yeah I've heard the arguments that some of those are Android users switching to another brand but fact is people will keep buying what they bought before if they really liked it. %61 of HTC users decided they didn't want another HTC, %72 of Samsung users decided they didn't want another Samsung, that's the bottom line.
Oh, and %11 of iPhone users thought they'd find something better in an Android phone.
I was really tempted to get the Galaxy SII....but after having the Vibrant and it's lack of updates/force closing I just can't go back. Love their TVs. Love SuperAMOLED. Can't deal with the issues anymore.
This phone is truly a deal maker. I'll be buying one this time around.
My new iPhone 4S will be sitting in the box over the weekend.
They are all still out there.
And they work at Consumer Reports!
Where are alll the people who were soooooooo dissappointed that there was no iPhone 5 AND because there was no iPhone 5 AND they were sooooooo disappointed they claimed the 4S would be a dud? I'll bet they crawled back under their rocks!
Anywho...is anyone actually surprised? The iPhone will and should always sell well as long as it remains such a polished device/experience...that won't change soon if ever.
Anywho...is anyone actually surprised? The iPhone will and should always sell well as long as it remains such a polished device/experience...that won't change soon if ever.
Everything that has a beginning...has an end.
The real question how many of these are new customers. Simply 3GS owners upgrading would not bode well for Apple.
Tell me - have you ever before chosen to purchase a product due to the death of the manufacturer's CEO?
Has there been a rash of CEO's dying lately?
Even if there were, still the purchasing of a product due to it would be assuaged by the fact that Steve, love him or hate him, had a more intimate relationship with the Apple faithful that spread over to the general public that would have probably said "Steve who?" then mention iPod creator and they say "Oh, that Steve!" and I don't really see or feel that with say a HTC's CEO, Ford's CEO, General Mills CEO, Dell's CEO, Amazon's CEO or MS CEO, etc.
I am sure there are quite a few "sympathy" purchases in the mix, but we'll never know.
The only other instance I see this "sympathy factory" even trying to be played is when a politician dies right before an election. Ted Kennedy is the latest that comes to mind, although that was probably more of a hinderance. Sen. Paul Wellstone, where at the Memorial for him became a pep rally / degradation of Republicans type event. That too didn't work out so well.
It is not surprising that there were record first-day preorders since iPhone 3GS owners have been out-of-contract for a few months since this is the longest Apple went between upgrades.
The real question how many of these are new customers. Simply 3GS owners upgrading would not bode well for Apple.
No, which is one of the problems I had with the iPhone 4S not looking a bit different. Nevertheless I think that they will sell the 30M, or so, they expect this Q.
Although I was one of the people disappointed with the lack of a new form factor - I have been waiting 26 months or so - I have come around to the 4S being a good idea. Why? Simply to release a new form factor in the holiday Q is probably a bit suicidal. They would never have met demand. In short they would have have greater demand, and lesser sales.
( For that reason I think the 5 should be updated early next year, or the year after. Hopefully, next).
Partner is flying early to WashDC Saturday and wants to take a working 4S. Apple phone lady originally told me not to preorder because there was no guarantee the phones would come Friday for sure. So it's the Store (shrine) camp-out.
Both on the 3GS so this will be a rock the socks upgrade!
Everything that has a beginning...has an end.
Everything, perhaps, except the upward movement of Apple's stock price?
It looks like the nay sayers were wrong.
I don't really see or feel that with say a HTC's CEO, Ford's CEO, General Mills CEO, Dell's CEO, Amazon's CEO or MS CEO, etc.
The only other example I can think of is Walt Disney. What happened when Edison died?
mine already Shipped !!!!
Good for you, hopefully that will bode well for me. I ordered my phone within 5 mins of the Apple Website coming online, still I'm in the UK not America and Apple tends to preference the US over everyone else.
Hope mine updates to shipped soon!
*Edit* Hmmmm, a tad confused by the Apple site. Under my order it shows "Processing Items" then a little blue arrow followed by "Dispatched: Ships by October 14th", I have the option to cancel my order, how can something be dispatched and yet I am able to cancel the order?
Apple defintely has a good chance to win back Android users, and keep them. Using an Apple machine is a valve, going to Android is a revolving door.
Win back? Apple has lost very few users to Android. My brother made the switch because Verizon had not, yet, gotten the iPhone, but he cusses out his Droid X daily. He'll be back. Apple has a very high retention rate among users.
Tell me - have you ever before chosen to purchase a product due to the death of the manufacturer's CEO?
It does seem like an irrational way to make buying decisions. This past year I've purchased, an AppleTV2, iPad2, Airport Extreme, Core i7 MacBook Air, iPhone 4GS. All because they were designed and engineered well and offered good value for the money invested, not because SJ was sick and dying. He put a lot of love and caring in these products and Apple. I mourn his passing but I don't show it by buying Apple products.
Win back? Apple has lost very few users to Android. My brother made the switch because Verizon had not, yet, gotten the iPhone, but he cusses out his Droid X daily. He'll be back. Apple has a very high retention rate among users.
Ok, to get for the first time and keep forever.
AAPL up $12.