What's funny about it? It's interesting to see the how far they've come in 3 years. Android needed the makeover desperately. First release devices were pretty ugly, haha.... They had awesome features though
What's funny about it? It's interesting to see the how far they've come in 3 years. Android nee ded the makeover desperately. First release devices were pretty ugly, haha.... They had awesome features though
Lol. If it wasn't for xda with their themes I'd have returned my G1. God Android was hideous
If you bought a phone less than a year ago with only 1.6 that is your problem and probably means you went for something that was the cheapest option available or that was free.
It's insanely obvious which Android phones are complete crap.
Agreed. The thing about Android is that there is a wide spectrum of devices.
Everything from free phones on some carriers to $299 subsidized models on others. Devices like that are intended from the beginning to be a low end phone. Nobody is surprised or disappointed because we have low expectations of free phones.
First of all, take a look at the name of this site. It's impossible for me to troll when making fun of Fandroids. Now, if I was a loser and liked to spend my time hanging out at Android sites and talking crap about them, I could see your point.
That face recognition demo was no small failure, as you put it. It was a catastrophic failure when they were attempting to show off a brand new feature.
Apple had Wifi problems that one time, because there were too many Wifi devices in the audience and things were congested.
What's Google's excuse? The failure was at the app level, it wasn't due to third party interference like what happened to Apple.
That is not true. One can troll in every possible environment.
Just saying...
That being said, comes to my mind a little embarrassment during original iPad presentation, when late SJ tried to open, was it NY Times web? - and ended up with ugly empty missing plug-in squares:
If the OEM doesn't push it out, that's the great thing about open source. CM9 will be available to 60+ devices at once. Because the Nexus S will be getting it, I would imagine any single core phone at 1ghz would handle it just fine. (every major android for the last year and a half)
By the way, aside from Apple ]['s comment, there's been some great discussion in this thread. I'm enjoying it
Beyond processor performance, memory may also be an issue. now granted we don't know the size of ICS yet (or do we?) but some phones may run into RAM or ROM limitations.
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Motorola Backflip. POS from day 1.
/waves hand. We shall not speak of the Backflip. God that phone was utter crap.
It looks like they've finally sat down and really focused on fluidity, and user experience.
Though, I have a Galaxy SII on Sprint right now, and at the moment I don't see anything in the Galaxy Nexus that makes me want to change over.
However, there is something far more concerning that will probably drive me away from Android, and more toward apple in 2012.
It's the fact that my android phone, and android tablet, both purchased and released within the last 5 months will both most likely be abandoned by their respective manufacturers who will not bother releasing a 4.0 update.
This intentionally gimps older/current devices just for the sake of spurring buying of new devices like the Nexus
As awesome as my phone is, the best android phone sold ever, it will be obsolete in weeks because Samsung will wait months or even years to offer an update that would give it parity with the Galaxy Nexus. A GSII with 4.0 ICS would basically negate the need to even consider a Galaxy Nexus. Samsung and Google will never let that happen.
At least with Apple, I know my investment will be better protected over the course of 2 years.
I'll go on record right now and say if I don't get a 4.0 ICS update within 4 months for both my tablet and phone, I will never buy another android device again. Never EVER, under any circumstances.
If android device manufacturers are not going to take care of me, I'm not going to fatten their wallets with my support.
How long has 2.3 been out? Over a year at this point? There are still more users on 2.2 and 2.1 combined. I'm thinking the pace of uptake on 4 is going to be glacial at best.
Or we can paraphrase George Carlin: Android users upgrade like old people f**k: slow and sloppy.
That's weak argument. I know couple of people still using iOS3.x on their iPhones (one 3G and two 3Gs). Also a friend with iP4 not upgrading to iOS5... yet. His reason is to wait at least one or two updates to iOS5.x before upgrading, but others simply don't bother upgrading. They don't want to learn new things and hardly plug phone to computer any more - or at all.
And I don't see anything wrong there. Some people just use phone, they don't worship phone and they don't need latest and greatest in everything, as long as their phones do what they need out of it. For calling, txting, Facebook, emails, calendar... iOS 3 and 4 do great job even without latest iOS 5 features.
You're pretty spot on, but I'd submit a few things in addition. I do know some 3GS owners who wish they could STILL be on 3.x as they found it to have better performance instead of being pushed forward.
The separation is Apple does NOT want a jailbreak community. Google essentially condones rooting. The OEMs may not, but with Samsung and HTC offering easy unlock methods, the prospect of customizing and staying up to date on your own is much easier.
Fully respect that view on the 3GS, but reports are saying that 5.0 flies on it in comparison with 4.X. Also understand what you are saying in respect to rooting vs jailbreaking, but I still hold that the end result is the same. Whether it is condoned or not, there is no official support - meaning that whether you root or jailbreak, you'll be on your own. No calls to customer support to get you up and running if something goes wrong.
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this is kind of tongue-in-cheek interesting....I'm sure it'll start a war.
Don't see why - what kind of war are you thinking it will start? I can see two points you'd be trying to make.
1. That Android has changed a lot more than iOS in the last 4 years (3 for Android in this picture)
2. That Android has not copied iOS that much in reality.
I think both are fairly valid points when one looks at Android from the vanilla standpoint before all the manufacturers put their own flavor of UI layer on top. What would be a more interesting graphic would be to replace the first Google shot with one from 2007, right at the time the iPhone came out.
My first touch smartphone was an HTC Magic that ran 1.6 Jelly Donut in late 2009. It's home screen looked exactly like the 1.0 graphic you posted.
Don't see why - what kind of war are thinking it will start? I can see two points you'd be trying to make.
1. That Android has changed a lot more than iOS in the last 4 years (3 for Android in this picture)
2. That Android has not copied iOS that mich in reality.
I think both are fairly valid points when one looks at Android from the vanilla standpoint before all the manufacturers put their own flagor of UI layer on top. What would be a more interesting graphic would be to replace the first Google shot with one from 2007, right at the time the iPhone came out.
My first touch smartphone was an HTC Magic that ran 1.6 Jelly Donut in late 2009. It's home screen looked exactly like the 1.0 graphic you posted.
1.6 was just Donut lol.
But yea the first UI revision came with Donut I believe they changed a few minor graphical elements. In 2.0 they changed the icons, in 2.1 they added the new app drawer that you just pushed and didn't pull up. 2.2 was pretty much an under the hood bug fix for 2.1, and 2.3 they added the black and puke green. 3.0 was the meh honeycomb and 4.0 is ICS.
Based on an interview I read on This is my Next with Matias Duarte it seems Google is taking UI and UX a lot more seriously. At the keynote he mentioned that he was working on 3 things with the UI/UX and that ICS is step one, and I feel ICS shows a LOT of maturity compared to previous Android versions.
I feel the future of Android UI/UX will be bright from here on out. Also I read that they are finally offering a "Stencil" for app UIs that'll probably help 3rd party apps look a lot better even in their most basic forms.
as a warning I suggest you skip past the beginning when Andy Rubin and that Samsung guy speak, then pose...waste of time and horrible stage presence by both of them.
as a warning I suggest you skip past the beginning when Andy Rubin and that Samsung guy speak, then pose...waste of time and horrible stage presence by both of them.
I'll go on record right now and say if I don't get a 4.0 ICS update within 4 months for both my tablet and phone, I will never buy another android device again. Never EVER, under any circumstances.
If android device manufacturers are not going to take care of me, I'm not going to fatten their wallets with my support.
This is what turned me away from Android as well. I will never purchase anything Android again. The fact that a small number of people do not take advantage of OS upgrades on their iDevices is irrelevant. The fact they could upgrade any time they want to through officially supported channels, quickly and easily, and not requiring any technical skills or knowledge - that is the difference.
But that's the difference between having integrated hardware and software, and being a manufacturer of hardware who licenses in the software. In reality, from the manufacturer's standpoint, the software is not their deal, they don't really have a built-in stake in it, and don't have the resources or specialization to support upgrades - their guys are all concentrating on making sure the next OS works with their next phone. But if you have both HW and SW inhouse, you have the resources and specialization to ensure that everything can seamlessly work across your product range.
Whether your HW and SW is good or not is another question altogether
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I'm loling so hard now.
What's funny about it? It's interesting to see the how far they've come in 3 years. Android needed the makeover desperately. First release devices were pretty ugly, haha.... They had awesome features though
What's funny about it? It's interesting to see the how far they've come in 3 years. Android nee ded the makeover desperately. First release devices were pretty ugly, haha.... They had awesome features though
Lol. If it wasn't for xda with their themes I'd have returned my G1. God Android was hideous
If you bought a phone less than a year ago with only 1.6 that is your problem and probably means you went for something that was the cheapest option available or that was free.
Motorola Backflip. POS from day 1.
That's one sweet looking phone!
What are you, some kind of troll?
What are you, some kind of troll?
It's a beautiful phone with a now beautiful OS
Motorola Backflip. POS from day 1.
It's insanely obvious which Android phones are complete crap.
It's insanely obvious which Android phones are complete crap.
Agreed. The thing about Android is that there is a wide spectrum of devices.
Everything from free phones on some carriers to $299 subsidized models on others. Devices like that are intended from the beginning to be a low end phone. Nobody is surprised or disappointed because we have low expectations of free phones.
this is kind of tongue-in-cheek interesting....I'm sure it'll start a war.
What's interesting? The new versions of both look similar to the old versions.
this is kind of tongue-in-cheek interesting....I'm sure it'll start a war.
I'm a fan of the Android 1.0 notification bar where it doesn't know the amount of battery left
First of all, take a look at the name of this site. It's impossible for me to troll when making fun of Fandroids. Now, if I was a loser and liked to spend my time hanging out at Android sites and talking crap about them, I could see your point.
That face recognition demo was no small failure, as you put it. It was a catastrophic failure when they were attempting to show off a brand new feature.
Apple had Wifi problems that one time, because there were too many Wifi devices in the audience and things were congested.
What's Google's excuse? The failure was at the app level, it wasn't due to third party interference like what happened to Apple.
That is not true. One can troll in every possible environment.
Just saying...
That being said, comes to my mind a little embarrassment during original iPad presentation, when late SJ tried to open, was it NY Times web? - and ended up with ugly empty missing plug-in squares:
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/0...full-of-holes/
See, things like that happen even to the best, when you are doing it live.
Google said any current 2.3 device.
If the OEM doesn't push it out, that's the great thing about open source. CM9 will be available to 60+ devices at once. Because the Nexus S will be getting it, I would imagine any single core phone at 1ghz would handle it just fine. (every major android for the last year and a half)
By the way, aside from Apple ]['s comment, there's been some great discussion in this thread. I'm enjoying it
Beyond processor performance, memory may also be an issue. now granted we don't know the size of ICS yet (or do we?) but some phones may run into RAM or ROM limitations.
Motorola Backflip. POS from day 1.
/waves hand. We shall not speak of the Backflip. God that phone was utter crap.
I'm a fan of the Android 1.0 notification bar where it doesn't know the amount of battery left
lol, that's likely a screen from the SDK.
It looks like they've finally sat down and really focused on fluidity, and user experience.
Though, I have a Galaxy SII on Sprint right now, and at the moment I don't see anything in the Galaxy Nexus that makes me want to change over.
However, there is something far more concerning that will probably drive me away from Android, and more toward apple in 2012.
It's the fact that my android phone, and android tablet, both purchased and released within the last 5 months will both most likely be abandoned by their respective manufacturers who will not bother releasing a 4.0 update.
This intentionally gimps older/current devices just for the sake of spurring buying of new devices like the Nexus
As awesome as my phone is, the best android phone sold ever, it will be obsolete in weeks because Samsung will wait months or even years to offer an update that would give it parity with the Galaxy Nexus. A GSII with 4.0 ICS would basically negate the need to even consider a Galaxy Nexus. Samsung and Google will never let that happen.
At least with Apple, I know my investment will be better protected over the course of 2 years.
I'll go on record right now and say if I don't get a 4.0 ICS update within 4 months for both my tablet and phone, I will never buy another android device again. Never EVER, under any circumstances.
If android device manufacturers are not going to take care of me, I'm not going to fatten their wallets with my support.
I can't answer that question exactly but here's something to consider, straight from Google themselves.
How long has 2.3 been out? Over a year at this point? There are still more users on 2.2 and 2.1 combined. I'm thinking the pace of uptake on 4 is going to be glacial at best.
Or we can paraphrase George Carlin: Android users upgrade like old people f**k: slow and sloppy.
That's weak argument. I know couple of people still using iOS3.x on their iPhones (one 3G and two 3Gs). Also a friend with iP4 not upgrading to iOS5... yet. His reason is to wait at least one or two updates to iOS5.x before upgrading, but others simply don't bother upgrading. They don't want to learn new things and hardly plug phone to computer any more - or at all.
And I don't see anything wrong there. Some people just use phone, they don't worship phone and they don't need latest and greatest in everything, as long as their phones do what they need out of it. For calling, txting, Facebook, emails, calendar... iOS 3 and 4 do great job even without latest iOS 5 features.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts5WBm0tXzI
You're pretty spot on, but I'd submit a few things in addition. I do know some 3GS owners who wish they could STILL be on 3.x as they found it to have better performance instead of being pushed forward.
The separation is Apple does NOT want a jailbreak community. Google essentially condones rooting. The OEMs may not, but with Samsung and HTC offering easy unlock methods, the prospect of customizing and staying up to date on your own is much easier.
Fully respect that view on the 3GS, but reports are saying that 5.0 flies on it in comparison with 4.X. Also understand what you are saying in respect to rooting vs jailbreaking, but I still hold that the end result is the same. Whether it is condoned or not, there is no official support - meaning that whether you root or jailbreak, you'll be on your own. No calls to customer support to get you up and running if something goes wrong.
this is kind of tongue-in-cheek interesting....I'm sure it'll start a war.
Don't see why - what kind of war are you thinking it will start? I can see two points you'd be trying to make.
1. That Android has changed a lot more than iOS in the last 4 years (3 for Android in this picture)
2. That Android has not copied iOS that much in reality.
I think both are fairly valid points when one looks at Android from the vanilla standpoint before all the manufacturers put their own flavor of UI layer on top. What would be a more interesting graphic would be to replace the first Google shot with one from 2007, right at the time the iPhone came out.
My first touch smartphone was an HTC Magic that ran 1.6 Jelly Donut in late 2009. It's home screen looked exactly like the 1.0 graphic you posted.
Don't see why - what kind of war are thinking it will start? I can see two points you'd be trying to make.
1. That Android has changed a lot more than iOS in the last 4 years (3 for Android in this picture)
2. That Android has not copied iOS that mich in reality.
I think both are fairly valid points when one looks at Android from the vanilla standpoint before all the manufacturers put their own flagor of UI layer on top. What would be a more interesting graphic would be to replace the first Google shot with one from 2007, right at the time the iPhone came out.
My first touch smartphone was an HTC Magic that ran 1.6 Jelly Donut in late 2009. It's home screen looked exactly like the 1.0 graphic you posted.
1.6 was just Donut lol.
But yea the first UI revision came with Donut I believe they changed a few minor graphical elements. In 2.0 they changed the icons, in 2.1 they added the new app drawer that you just pushed and didn't pull up. 2.2 was pretty much an under the hood bug fix for 2.1, and 2.3 they added the black and puke green. 3.0 was the meh honeycomb and 4.0 is ICS.
Based on an interview I read on This is my Next with Matias Duarte it seems Google is taking UI and UX a lot more seriously. At the keynote he mentioned that he was working on 3 things with the UI/UX and that ICS is step one, and I feel ICS shows a LOT of maturity compared to previous Android versions.
I feel the future of Android UI/UX will be bright from here on out. Also I read that they are finally offering a "Stencil" for app UIs that'll probably help 3rd party apps look a lot better even in their most basic forms.
The keynote is on youtube now, for those that missed it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts5WBm0tXzI
as a warning I suggest you skip past the beginning when Andy Rubin and that Samsung guy speak, then pose...waste of time and horrible stage presence by both of them.
as a warning I suggest you skip past the beginning when Andy Rubin and that Samsung guy speak, then pose...waste of time and horrible stage presence by both of them.
yeah, that much we can agree on =P
video breaks down as follows:
start to ~8 min: introductions and formalities
~8 min to ~19 min: galaxy nexus hardware
~19 mins to end: android ice cream sandwich
I'll go on record right now and say if I don't get a 4.0 ICS update within 4 months for both my tablet and phone, I will never buy another android device again. Never EVER, under any circumstances.
If android device manufacturers are not going to take care of me, I'm not going to fatten their wallets with my support.
This is what turned me away from Android as well. I will never purchase anything Android again. The fact that a small number of people do not take advantage of OS upgrades on their iDevices is irrelevant. The fact they could upgrade any time they want to through officially supported channels, quickly and easily, and not requiring any technical skills or knowledge - that is the difference.
But that's the difference between having integrated hardware and software, and being a manufacturer of hardware who licenses in the software. In reality, from the manufacturer's standpoint, the software is not their deal, they don't really have a built-in stake in it, and don't have the resources or specialization to support upgrades - their guys are all concentrating on making sure the next OS works with their next phone. But if you have both HW and SW inhouse, you have the resources and specialization to ensure that everything can seamlessly work across your product range.
Whether your HW and SW is good or not is another question altogether