Yeah, according to a host of people on this site: a. You just trolled b. that is an invalid source c. they didn't survey every iphone owner 4. Apple is invincbile. This is a lie and CNET.com is just a bunch of Fandroids.<-----These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA or PETA.
Use a Wp7 device for an hour or try out a Galaxy Nexus with Ice Cream Sandwich. Both are innovating by taking interaction and intuitive design to a level beyond ios5.
Oh, I have. Unless they've done a major UI update in the last nine months, I know what they're all about.
Windows Phone 7 is elegant. I appreciate what they're doing there. There's just no soul.
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?or try out a Galaxy Nexus with Ice Cream Sandwich. Both are innovating by taking interaction and intuitive design to a level beyond ios5.
Cool. I think I will. I haven't played with Android since Froyo and maybe an early Gingerbread, so it's high time I take another look. Thanks for the tip.
The ad could have been a bit tighter, but it was pretty funny and I think also effective.
People do a whole lot of buying based on subconscious imagery, just like the "creative" guy in the ad does, but poking at that behavior a bit and turning conscious thought toward it makes it fizzle. Samsung is doing exactly that and asking, "do you want to pick stuff based on its actual merits?". Most would answer yes to that.
Samsung is doing exactly that and asking, "do you want to pick stuff based on its actual merits?". Most would answer yes to that.
Indeed, but the assumption of the ad is that a huge screen and 4G are both "merits" and that they trump all other considerations.
I honestly do not understand the recent obsession with larger screens. Not so many years ago, before smartphones took off, folks were bragging about how small their phones were! After all, a phone is meant to be a portable device that fits in your pocket/purse and that you can hold in your hand comfortably. If Apple were ever to offer more than one iPhone form-factor, I would hope that the additional one would be smaller than the current one, not bigger.
4G requires first-generation chipsets with higher power consumption than 3G chipsets; personally I prefer the better battery life versus higher speeds. And anyway, what the hell is the point of having a phone that can do 40 Mbps or whatever if your data allowance for a whole month is only 1 GB? The limiting factor for a lot of web-browsing on mobiles is rendering speed and latency, not downlink speed.
Finally, what about all the other considerations for a smartphone, such as the overall user experience, how long your phone is likely to be supported w.r.t. software updates, sound quality, screen quality, overall build quality etc. etc.?
Indeed, but the assumption of the ad is that a huge screen and 4G are both "merits" and that they trump all other considerations. 4G requires first-generation chipsets with higher power consumption than 3G chipsets; personally I prefer the better battery life versus higher speeds.
It's plainly obvious that those features are merits for some users. Samsung has other phones with different features. Even the SII itself is also available with a 3G chipset. Is choice bad?
Pointing out "hey, we offer these cool features and Apple doesn't" doesn't even remotely imply those features "trump all other considerations". When Apple makes an ad that only talks about Siri, does that imply Apple doesn't give a shit about screen quality?
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And anyway, what the hell is the point of having a phone that can do 40 Mbps or whatever if your data allowance for a whole month is only 1 GB? The limiting factor for a lot of web-browsing on mobiles is rendering speed and latency, not downlink speed.
1 GB cap with 4G is absurd. Is it Samsung's fault if you have a niggardly data plan?
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Finally, what about all the other considerations for a smartphone, such as the overall user experience, how long your phone is likely to be supported w.r.t. software updates, sound quality, screen quality, overall build quality etc. etc.?
What about them? We're talking about a short ad here.
Oh, I have. Unless they've done a major UI update in the last nine months, I know what they're all about.
Windows Phone 7 is elegant. I appreciate what they're doing there. There's just no soul.
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Can't disagree with you there.
I honestly think it's the most elegant looking of the OSes...but it is utterly boring IMO.
It feels anything but soulless to me. That said, Microsoft has yet to build an arsenal of Apps that have the same smooth functionality and sheer enjoyability as iOS. This may be one reason why Wp7 feels less robust, or slightly boring. There many things I see Microsoft not doing that are bothersome; App development, or the lack thereof, for example.
I honestly do not understand the recent obsession with larger screens. Not so many years ago, before smartphones took off, folks were bragging about how small their phones were! After all, a phone is meant to be a portable device that fits in your pocket/purse and that you can hold in your hand comfortably. If Apple were ever to offer more than one iPhone form-factor, I would hope that the additional one would be smaller than the current one, not bigger.
That was before the primary I/O were one and same. Personally, I want the iPhone display to move to 4", but only if that can be achieved without losing any of it's single-handed usability. That means a thinner overall case and/or a display closer to the edge so my hand can cusp comfortably any my thumb can still sweep easily.
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Finally, what about all the other considerations for a smartphone, such as the overall user experience, how long your phone is likely to be supported w.r.t. software updates, sound quality, screen quality, overall build quality etc. etc.?
What about them? We're talking about a short ad here.
Apple has done great job at capturing a feeling when using their iPhone and iPad so it's possible to put them in a 30 second spot. While this is the best Android-based vendor ad it's still very superficial.
I hope you know reviews are subjective and aren't to be taken as fact. Most people think Superman 64 is the worst game ever. There is one person that think it's the greatest thing to grace the earth.
GSMArena base their reviews on audio tests they aim to make as objective as possible, the method they use is outlined here.
This is the reason I chose them as a source, to remove the subjectivity, although as I stated it is easy to test if you have a Galaxy S II variant, an iPhone 4 or 4S and a set of high end headphones (which are available to try in Apple stores).
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There are no high end headphones for sale at any Apple store..
I'm talking headphones from manufacturers such as Bose, Etymotics, Beats by Dre etc. that cost more than many Android phone's currently being sold.
In Australian Apple store's they are available to try.
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Wasn't it Samsung who hired a flock of people to stand outside a store pretending to wait for one their phones?
They sold 10 $2 Galaxy S II's per day to a small line of mainly backpackers, in a pop up store they set up a couple of doors down from the Apple store in George Street, Sydney.
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Yeah, according to a host of people on this site: a. You just trolled b. that is an invalid source c. they didn't survey every iphone owner 4. Apple is invincbile. This is a lie and CNET.com is just a bunch of Fandroids.<-----These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA or PETA.
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Use a Wp7 device for an hour or try out a Galaxy Nexus with Ice Cream Sandwich. Both are innovating by taking interaction and intuitive design to a level beyond ios5.
Use a Wp7 device for an hour
Oh, I have. Unless they've done a major UI update in the last nine months, I know what they're all about.
Windows Phone 7 is elegant. I appreciate what they're doing there. There's just no soul.
?or try out a Galaxy Nexus with Ice Cream Sandwich. Both are innovating by taking interaction and intuitive design to a level beyond ios5.
Cool. I think I will. I haven't played with Android since Froyo and maybe an early Gingerbread, so it's high time I take another look. Thanks for the tip.
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It's not limited to the UK. South Korea is also having iPhone 4S woes - http://9to5mac.com/2011/11/23/iphone...ack-of-4g-lte/ (and notice that that's from an Apple news site).
Windows Phone 7 is elegant. I appreciate what they're doing there. There's just no soul.
Wow. Just... wow.
Windows Phone 7 is elegant. I appreciate what they're doing there. There's just no soul.
Can't disagree with you there.
I honestly think it's the most elegant looking of the OSes...but it is utterly boring IMO.
Can't disagree with you there.
I honestly think it's the most elegant looking of the OSes...but it is utterly boring IMO.
It's a bit stark, but the user experience is actually very good.
MSFT has done a fair job of mating software to hardware as well, which is where android falls short big time.
I am running a GSII. Awesome phone. I don't have any real complaints in fact. I wouldn't trade it for an i4S. The biggest issue is screen size.
If the i4S had at least a 4" screen it would make a huge difference.
It's a bit stark, but the user experience is actually very good.
MSFT has done a fair job of mating software to hardware as well, which is where android falls short big time.
I am running a GSII. Awesome phone. I don't have any real complaints in fact. I wouldn't trade it for an i4S. The biggest issue is screen size.
If the i4S had at least a 4" screen it would make a huge difference.
yea I wish Google would exercise some (maybe even half) of the control Microsoft has over their OS.
At this time they have the content, they have the software going in the right direction...etc.
They could tighten up at least as far as carrier control and OEM customization goes and still be relatively open.
People do a whole lot of buying based on subconscious imagery, just like the "creative" guy in the ad does, but poking at that behavior a bit and turning conscious thought toward it makes it fizzle. Samsung is doing exactly that and asking, "do you want to pick stuff based on its actual merits?". Most would answer yes to that.
Samsung is doing exactly that and asking, "do you want to pick stuff based on its actual merits?". Most would answer yes to that.
Indeed, but the assumption of the ad is that a huge screen and 4G are both "merits" and that they trump all other considerations.
I honestly do not understand the recent obsession with larger screens. Not so many years ago, before smartphones took off, folks were bragging about how small their phones were! After all, a phone is meant to be a portable device that fits in your pocket/purse and that you can hold in your hand comfortably. If Apple were ever to offer more than one iPhone form-factor, I would hope that the additional one would be smaller than the current one, not bigger.
4G requires first-generation chipsets with higher power consumption than 3G chipsets; personally I prefer the better battery life versus higher speeds. And anyway, what the hell is the point of having a phone that can do 40 Mbps or whatever if your data allowance for a whole month is only 1 GB? The limiting factor for a lot of web-browsing on mobiles is rendering speed and latency, not downlink speed.
Finally, what about all the other considerations for a smartphone, such as the overall user experience, how long your phone is likely to be supported w.r.t. software updates, sound quality, screen quality, overall build quality etc. etc.?
Indeed, but the assumption of the ad is that a huge screen and 4G are both "merits" and that they trump all other considerations. 4G requires first-generation chipsets with higher power consumption than 3G chipsets; personally I prefer the better battery life versus higher speeds.
It's plainly obvious that those features are merits for some users. Samsung has other phones with different features. Even the SII itself is also available with a 3G chipset. Is choice bad?
Pointing out "hey, we offer these cool features and Apple doesn't" doesn't even remotely imply those features "trump all other considerations". When Apple makes an ad that only talks about Siri, does that imply Apple doesn't give a shit about screen quality?
And anyway, what the hell is the point of having a phone that can do 40 Mbps or whatever if your data allowance for a whole month is only 1 GB? The limiting factor for a lot of web-browsing on mobiles is rendering speed and latency, not downlink speed.
1 GB cap with 4G is absurd. Is it Samsung's fault if you have a niggardly data plan?
Finally, what about all the other considerations for a smartphone, such as the overall user experience, how long your phone is likely to be supported w.r.t. software updates, sound quality, screen quality, overall build quality etc. etc.?
What about them? We're talking about a short ad here.
Oh, I have. Unless they've done a major UI update in the last nine months, I know what they're all about.
Windows Phone 7 is elegant. I appreciate what they're doing there. There's just no soul.
Can't disagree with you there.
I honestly think it's the most elegant looking of the OSes...but it is utterly boring IMO.
It feels anything but soulless to me. That said, Microsoft has yet to build an arsenal of Apps that have the same smooth functionality and sheer enjoyability as iOS. This may be one reason why Wp7 feels less robust, or slightly boring. There many things I see Microsoft not doing that are bothersome; App development, or the lack thereof, for example.
I honestly do not understand the recent obsession with larger screens. Not so many years ago, before smartphones took off, folks were bragging about how small their phones were! After all, a phone is meant to be a portable device that fits in your pocket/purse and that you can hold in your hand comfortably. If Apple were ever to offer more than one iPhone form-factor, I would hope that the additional one would be smaller than the current one, not bigger.
That was before the primary I/O were one and same. Personally, I want the iPhone display to move to 4", but only if that can be achieved without losing any of it's single-handed usability. That means a thinner overall case and/or a display closer to the edge so my hand can cusp comfortably any my thumb can still sweep easily.
Finally, what about all the other considerations for a smartphone, such as the overall user experience, how long your phone is likely to be supported w.r.t. software updates, sound quality, screen quality, overall build quality etc. etc.?
What about them? We're talking about a short ad here.
Apple has done great job at capturing a feeling when using their iPhone and iPad so it's possible to put them in a 30 second spot. While this is the best Android-based vendor ad it's still very superficial.
Windows Phone 7 is elegant. I appreciate what they're doing there. There's just no soul.
Wait...what?
Apple supporter --> Apple fan --> Apple fanatic --> Apple lunatic.
That is your progress.
No one is waiting in line to buy a stupid Samsung knockoff phone
If that makes you feel better.
Wait...what?
Apple supporter --> Apple fan --> Apple fanatic --> Apple lunatic.
That is your progress.
You're completely and utterly wrong. You should revise your view of me before continuing to make baseless accusations.
My ears don't belong to GSM Arena.
I hope you know reviews are subjective and aren't to be taken as fact. Most people think Superman 64 is the worst game ever. There is one person that think it's the greatest thing to grace the earth.
GSMArena base their reviews on audio tests they aim to make as objective as possible, the method they use is outlined here.
This is the reason I chose them as a source, to remove the subjectivity, although as I stated it is easy to test if you have a Galaxy S II variant, an iPhone 4 or 4S and a set of high end headphones (which are available to try in Apple stores).
There are no high end headphones for sale at any Apple store..
I'm talking headphones from manufacturers such as Bose, Etymotics, Beats by Dre etc. that cost more than many Android phone's currently being sold.
In Australian Apple store's they are available to try.
Wasn't it Samsung who hired a flock of people to stand outside a store pretending to wait for one their phones?
They sold 10 $2 Galaxy S II's per day to a small line of mainly backpackers, in a pop up store they set up a couple of doors down from the Apple store in George Street, Sydney.
Wait...what?
Apple supporter --> Apple fan --> Apple fanatic --> Apple lunatic.
That is your progress.
I think it's just that he is a unique kind of guy.