No Problem... though that whole "But this guy cant be wrong- he's the smartest person ever. Just ask him" was a bit ambiguous as to whom it was being directed.
Be Well...
His comment wasn't ambiguous, but it does explain why you thnk using multi to describe dual is just as precise.
No Problem... though that whole "But this guy cant be wrong- he's the smartest person ever. Just ask him" was a bit ambiguous as to whom it was being directed.
Be Well...
It's fairly obvious as to who it was directed towards, as the dude has a huge hard on for me, since many of his posts are about me, and not the subject at hand.
I'm sorry to inform him that I'm not gay, so he'll have to take his hard on elsewhere.
11 point multitouch...what's the other point for? "You killed my father...prepare to die"? Or is it more "Ewwww"?
I think it's just to make sure they have the FULL multi-touch display input covered. Especially considering what some ingenious developer could come up with.
"Amazon is expected to "surpass all other iPad rivals" in the final quarter of 2012."
Well going on this which shows less than 2% of Android devices running Honeycomb, Amazon has just doubled the number of Honeycomb tablets in the world.
Well going on this which shows less than 2% of Android devices running Honeycomb, Amazon has just doubled the number of Honeycomb tablets in the world.
The Kindle Fire runs a forked version of 2.3.4 Gingerbread, not 3.x Honeycomb.
I swear- people on this forum just post whatever response they are thinking and don't actually read what they are responding too. It's like being in an argument and thinking about what you are going to say to the person you're arguing with instead of actually listening to them and processing what they say and then speaking.
I hope y'all aren't like this in real life- because if you are, you're either socially retarded or giant a-holes. You pick.
"I want to have an argument with you" (Monty Python (Live at Hollywood Bowl)). Isn't it ? (argue, please, it would make me so happy ..)
My iPad 2 pools when I push on it moderately too. No question. My phone doesn't regardless of how hard I push. The bigger the screen, the more the flex... Simple physics. (the MBP glass is much thicker btw- so it doesn't count).
Wow. I think you and DaHarder have defective iPad2s. You really have to press quite hard to get this "pooling effect". "Moderate" pressure? I really don't think so.
The concept you and DaHarder are putting forward regarding the quality of the iPad2 vs Kindle, based on the "LCD pooling" is, really, quite ludicrous. I'm sure any reasonable person using a standard iPad2 would virtually never notice this. I've been using the iPad 1 and 2 and never noticed it.
I guess when you've only got two-finger "multitouch" on the Kindle you have to adjust for the greater pressure since it is exerted at only two points at the maximum.
Wow. I think you and DaHarder have defective iPad2s. You really have to press quite hard to get this "pooling effect". "Moderate" pressure? I really don't think so.
The concept you and DaHarder are putting forward regarding the quality of the iPad2 vs Kindle, based on the "LCD pooling" is, really, quite ludicrous. I'm sure any reasonable person using a standard iPad2 would virtually never notice this. I've been using the iPad 1 and 2 and never noticed it.
Same here, never ever experienced pooling on either iPads, Just now tried to create pooling and you have to press VERY hard to get some? Stating iPad2 has a pooling flaw is from my personal experience not true, and ludicrous yeah.
What kind of parent doesn't have $500 to invest in their kids future?
I'd be more interested in what kind of parent would palm their job off to a $500 electronic nanny under the guise of "investing in their future" instead of just spending time with their children like they should be. Answer: a pretty pathetic one.
Wow. I think you and DaHarder have defective iPad2s. You really have to press quite hard to get this "pooling effect". "Moderate" pressure? I really don't think so.
The concept you and DaHarder are putting forward regarding the quality of the iPad2 vs Kindle, based on the "LCD pooling" is, really, quite ludicrous. I'm sure any reasonable person using a standard iPad2 would virtually never notice this. I've been using the iPad 1 and 2 and never noticed it.
I guess when you've only got two-finger "multitouch" on the Kindle you have to adjust for the greater pressure since it is exerted at only two points at the maximum.
I'm not trying to put forward any idea. I think the iPad is vastly superior both in features and build quality to the fire- after owning one and using the latter. When I push in the middle of the screen I get pooling. I have very skinny fingers, but I could have a defective one too- I never really compared it vs others hands on.
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Originally Posted by Firefly7475
I'd be more interested in what kind of parent would palm their job off to a $500 electronic nanny under the guise of "investing in their future" instead of just spending time with their children like they should be. Answer: a pretty pathetic one.
I thought the same thing when I saw that post. You can use an iPad for education, but in no way am I giving it to my kids until they are much older. If its mine, I can do flash cards, etc and control it- ie they don't get to use it for games, just supervised education. That way there is never temptation. If its "theirs", what's gonna be used more- flash cards or angry birds.... 24/7. Ive seen this personally in friends kids.
This 3.9M is still not based on any actual data from Amazon. "A lot", "millions", "more than you", "did too!", "are not!" These are the kind of things we hear from Amazon
Plus, Apple's competitors generally talk about units shipped, not sold.
That said, I fully expect that the Fire will do well. It's priced at a point that it's an impulse buy for a lot of people and it's not a bad unit.
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Originally Posted by SSquirrel
According to the article, Amazon loses only $2.70 per unit, so they've lost 10.53M. Still a decent chunk, but much more manageable. So long as the estimate in the article for build cost is accurate. Those typically don't include labor and such tho, so somewhere between the 2 figures.
The $2.70 figure is based solely on estimated component costs. The $50 figure is based on total manufacturing cost.
With a component cost of $201.70, it's not hard to imagine $47.30 in additional, non-component costs. Labor. Plant overhead. Utilities. Shipping. Packaging. Allowance for rejects and rework. Tech support cost (which may be included in COGS). Quality control costs.
And that's before you get into the marketing costs. If Amazon sells 10 million of these and spends $100 M in advertising, marketing, design, etc, that's an additional $10 per unit that they're losing.
Sorry, but dual touch is not multitouch. The iPad is multitouch and Amazon calling their mini tablet multitouch is deceptive advertising, as ignorant people will be fooled and thinking that they're actually getting multitouch like the iPad, when in fact, it is a pathetic dual touch.
The FTC should get involved immediately to prevent further consumer fraud.
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No Problem... though that whole "But this guy cant be wrong- he's the smartest person ever. Just ask him" was a bit ambiguous as to whom it was being directed.
Be Well...
His comment wasn't ambiguous, but it does explain why you thnk using multi to describe dual is just as precise.
No Problem... though that whole "But this guy cant be wrong- he's the smartest person ever. Just ask him" was a bit ambiguous as to whom it was being directed.
Be Well...
It's fairly obvious as to who it was directed towards, as the dude has a huge hard on for me, since many of his posts are about me, and not the subject at hand.
I'm sorry to inform him that I'm not gay, so he'll have to take his hard on elsewhere.
His comment wasn't ambiguous, but it does explain why you this multi to describe two is just as precise as dual.
It's fairly obvious as to who it was directed towards
English... Please?
English... Please?
He was referring to me.
For $50 more I'm getting the Nook Tablet. Between the SD card, buttons and RAM I can live with the locked bootloader.
11 point multitouch...what's the other point for? "You killed my father...prepare to die"? Or is it more "Ewwww"?
I'm not sure why it's 11. Maybe it's for playing head to head Fruit Ninja?
11 point multitouch...what's the other point for? "You killed my father...prepare to die"? Or is it more "Ewwww"?
I think it's just to make sure they have the FULL multi-touch display input covered. Especially considering what some ingenious developer could come up with.
The article says:
So this is a projection for one year away?
"Amazon is expected to "surpass all other iPad rivals" in the final quarter of 2012."
Well going on this which shows less than 2% of Android devices running Honeycomb, Amazon has just doubled the number of Honeycomb tablets in the world.
Well going on this which shows less than 2% of Android devices running Honeycomb, Amazon has just doubled the number of Honeycomb tablets in the world.
The Kindle Fire runs a forked version of 2.3.4 Gingerbread, not 3.x Honeycomb.
I swear- people on this forum just post whatever response they are thinking and don't actually read what they are responding too. It's like being in an argument and thinking about what you are going to say to the person you're arguing with instead of actually listening to them and processing what they say and then speaking.
I hope y'all aren't like this in real life- because if you are, you're either socially retarded or giant a-holes. You pick.
"I want to have an argument with you" (Monty Python (Live at Hollywood Bowl)). Isn't it ? (argue, please, it would make me so happy ..)
You might; you made the actual 2,000,000th post.
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot
My iPad 2 pools when I push on it moderately too. No question. My phone doesn't regardless of how hard I push. The bigger the screen, the more the flex... Simple physics. (the MBP glass is much thicker btw- so it doesn't count).
Wow. I think you and DaHarder have defective iPad2s. You really have to press quite hard to get this "pooling effect". "Moderate" pressure? I really don't think so.
The concept you and DaHarder are putting forward regarding the quality of the iPad2 vs Kindle, based on the "LCD pooling" is, really, quite ludicrous. I'm sure any reasonable person using a standard iPad2 would virtually never notice this. I've been using the iPad 1 and 2 and never noticed it.
I guess when you've only got two-finger "multitouch" on the Kindle you have to adjust for the greater pressure since it is exerted at only two points at the maximum.
Wow. I think you and DaHarder have defective iPad2s. You really have to press quite hard to get this "pooling effect". "Moderate" pressure? I really don't think so.
The concept you and DaHarder are putting forward regarding the quality of the iPad2 vs Kindle, based on the "LCD pooling" is, really, quite ludicrous. I'm sure any reasonable person using a standard iPad2 would virtually never notice this. I've been using the iPad 1 and 2 and never noticed it.
Same here, never ever experienced pooling on either iPads, Just now tried to create pooling and you have to press VERY hard to get some? Stating iPad2 has a pooling flaw is from my personal experience not true, and ludicrous yeah.
What kind of parent doesn't have $500 to invest in their kids future?
I'd be more interested in what kind of parent would palm their job off to a $500 electronic nanny under the guise of "investing in their future" instead of just spending time with their children like they should be. Answer: a pretty pathetic one.
Wow. I think you and DaHarder have defective iPad2s. You really have to press quite hard to get this "pooling effect". "Moderate" pressure? I really don't think so.
The concept you and DaHarder are putting forward regarding the quality of the iPad2 vs Kindle, based on the "LCD pooling" is, really, quite ludicrous. I'm sure any reasonable person using a standard iPad2 would virtually never notice this. I've been using the iPad 1 and 2 and never noticed it.
I guess when you've only got two-finger "multitouch" on the Kindle you have to adjust for the greater pressure since it is exerted at only two points at the maximum.
I'm not trying to put forward any idea. I think the iPad is vastly superior both in features and build quality to the fire- after owning one and using the latter. When I push in the middle of the screen I get pooling. I have very skinny fingers, but I could have a defective one too- I never really compared it vs others hands on.
I'd be more interested in what kind of parent would palm their job off to a $500 electronic nanny under the guise of "investing in their future" instead of just spending time with their children like they should be. Answer: a pretty pathetic one.
I thought the same thing when I saw that post. You can use an iPad for education, but in no way am I giving it to my kids until they are much older. If its mine, I can do flash cards, etc and control it- ie they don't get to use it for games, just supervised education. That way there is never temptation. If its "theirs", what's gonna be used more- flash cards or angry birds.... 24/7. Ive seen this personally in friends kids.
This 3.9M is still not based on any actual data from Amazon. "A lot", "millions", "more than you", "did too!", "are not!" These are the kind of things we hear from Amazon
Plus, Apple's competitors generally talk about units shipped, not sold.
That said, I fully expect that the Fire will do well. It's priced at a point that it's an impulse buy for a lot of people and it's not a bad unit.
According to the article, Amazon loses only $2.70 per unit, so they've lost 10.53M. Still a decent chunk, but much more manageable. So long as the estimate in the article for build cost is accurate. Those typically don't include labor and such tho, so somewhere between the 2 figures.
The $2.70 figure is based solely on estimated component costs. The $50 figure is based on total manufacturing cost.
With a component cost of $201.70, it's not hard to imagine $47.30 in additional, non-component costs. Labor. Plant overhead. Utilities. Shipping. Packaging. Allowance for rejects and rework. Tech support cost (which may be included in COGS). Quality control costs.
And that's before you get into the marketing costs. If Amazon sells 10 million of these and spends $100 M in advertising, marketing, design, etc, that's an additional $10 per unit that they're losing.
And if it is true that it is only two touch, then it is deceptive to call it multi touch, IMO.
Amazon is guilty of fraud.
Sorry, but dual touch is not multitouch. The iPad is multitouch and Amazon calling their mini tablet multitouch is deceptive advertising, as ignorant people will be fooled and thinking that they're actually getting multitouch like the iPad, when in fact, it is a pathetic dual touch.
The FTC should get involved immediately to prevent further consumer fraud.
Anyone else crack up when they read this? Lol....
I crack up at almost every post. Many are classics. I have read them aloud to people who have trouble believing that they are real.