To CJ above, the U.S. was the multinational corporation of Rockwell's day. See Marshall McLuhan's The Mechanical Bride.
Wow. You piqued my interest.
While I generally consider McLuhan to be full of shit, I'll take a look.
Thanks.
BTW, has anybody here re-read Atlas Shrugged lately? It has been mentioned here several times in the past few weeks. I was thinking of picking it up again.
The tattoo though, not a chance, that's for life and I'm old enough to know that what I think is cool now probably won't be so much in a few years time.
C'mon, have some confidence in your decisions.
I thought my Wife was great and cool in the 50s... guess what...
I thought the Beatles were great and cool in the 60s... guess what...
I thought Led Zeppelin was great and cool in the 70s.. guess what...
I thought Apple was great and cool in the 80s... guess what...
... but, then again... I've always had great taste.
Great New Yorkish point. Here in So. Cal., many stores are in boring indoor malls, and the outdoors aren't that bad anyway. GCS would be a great place to hang out while waiting in line. Unless you're stuck in that hallway with a bunch of other weirdos, then maybe not.
As we speak, Tom Ashbrook is doing an NPR/On Point show on talking to your phone, as in SIRI and some Android app.
Hadn't though of that way. I guess in February as the largest store and with the most indoor space GCT will be the place to hang out and wait for the new iPad. That place is gonna be a made house. I see some pros and cons for those traveling and shopping at other retail spaces there.
Hadn't though of that way. I guess in February as the largest store and with the most indoor space GCT will be the place to hang out and wait for the new iPad. That place is gonna be a made house. I see some pros and cons for those traveling and shopping at other retail spaces there.
Ah, yes... GCT not GCS... my mistake.
A made house? I can see all these Mafia types hanging out in the shadows.
For all the folks hassling ConradJoe, I think you might be;
(a) taking him a little too literally
(b) lacking a sarcasm detector
(c) choosing to filter his comments through the ol' tried and tested 'reality distortion field'
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I personally find modern Apple fandom to be a tad on the creepy side and if this is what it takes to be be a fan nowadays, then I'm considering changing my fan status and membership to an 'in the closet' status.
Then again, I never understood why Apple gave me a 'logo' sticker with each computer I purchased, did they seriously want me to put it on my car or display it somewhere with pride?
First, it is you who is taking CJ seriously. If he were an ordinary psychologically disturbed troll who is here to stick a thumb in everybody's eye, that would be sad, but ignorable and tolerable. But he's not, he's a paid disrupter, by his own admission. Not that I take the details of his admission seriously, just the overall scenario.
On your second point, I halfway agree with you. No word of any kind is on any t-shirt I own, and there ain't no stickers on my car. But consider the function that Apple serves these days as a crowd phenomenon or zeitgeist emblem. It's a little short on the frenzy, but it's very like what it was around the Beatles in the 60s, or maybe a combination of them and Dylan at the time. Waiting for Sgt. Pepper was similar to iPad anticipation. If we'd had fMRI at the time, and you could run someone through the machine today around the next Apple life-changer on the horizon, I betcha you'd see the same areas light up.
Steve and Woz, and Raskin, Atkinson, Hertzfeld, Ive and let's not forget Smith really did establish a New Thing worth being in a crowd for. Now it's -- oh dear! -- a "multinational corporation" making "consumerist" devices. Just like the Beatles and the record biz, more popular than Jesus at the time, according to John Lennon. But, you say, the Beatles were at least about art. Well guess who else is about art, the art of technology, which is why they deserve to draw a crowd.
But I understand what you mean. The friend I went to Woodstock with left the first day and hitched back to the city. Couldn't dig the crowd scene.
Meanwhile, notice that ConradJoe is not defending his calling those nice, clean-cut people "weirdos."
You should totally show your wife your last post, placing her up there with the greatness of The Beatles and Zepplin is sure to keep you in the good books, maybe just leave out the Apple comparison, she might find that one a little 'weird'
Maybe he took the brown acid, maybe I should take the brown acid!
Pretty sure it was the cold and the mud and all those crazy people still seeming to have a good time, against all reason. He's still a voice of reason to this day. Maybe wouldn't be now if he'd gotten hold of some of that. There was a lot of good blotter going around . . . sigh . . .
He called them weirdos. He implied they were abnormal and queer. These are all synonyms. Nothing in ConradJoe's hateful comment eluded to calling them homosexuals, nor does mine. Words do have multiple meaning so the context it's used is important to understand its meaning.
I personally find modern Apple fandom to be a tad on the creepy side and if this is what it takes to be be a fan nowadays, then I'm considering changing my fan status and membership to an 'in the closet' status.
You should totally show your wife your last post, placing her up there with the greatness of The Beatles and Zepplin is sure to keep you in the good books, maybe just leave out the Apple comparison, she might find that one a little 'weird'
Leave out the Apple comparison to the woman who has an iMac, iPad, iPod and iPhone. Who are the Beatles and Led Zeppelin again...
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From a world perspective, there's very little difference. Picture the Thanksgiving dinner.
From that perspective the Last Supper is about consumerism and the kind of crap you'd find in thrift stores.
To CJ above, the U.S. was the multinational corporation of Rockwell's day. See Marshall McLuhan's The Mechanical Bride.
Wow. You piqued my interest.
While I generally consider McLuhan to be full of shit, I'll take a look.
Thanks.
BTW, has anybody here re-read Atlas Shrugged lately? It has been mentioned here several times in the past few weeks. I was thinking of picking it up again.
The tattoo though, not a chance, that's for life and I'm old enough to know that what I think is cool now probably won't be so much in a few years time.
C'mon, have some confidence in your decisions.
I thought my Wife was great and cool in the 50s... guess what...
I thought the Beatles were great and cool in the 60s... guess what...
I thought Led Zeppelin was great and cool in the 70s.. guess what...
I thought Apple was great and cool in the 80s... guess what...
... but, then again... I've always had great taste.
Great New Yorkish point. Here in So. Cal., many stores are in boring indoor malls, and the outdoors aren't that bad anyway. GCS would be a great place to hang out while waiting in line. Unless you're stuck in that hallway with a bunch of other weirdos, then maybe not.
As we speak, Tom Ashbrook is doing an NPR/On Point show on talking to your phone, as in SIRI and some Android app.
Hadn't though of that way. I guess in February as the largest store and with the most indoor space GCT will be the place to hang out and wait for the new iPad. That place is gonna be a made house. I see some pros and cons for those traveling and shopping at other retail spaces there.
Hadn't though of that way. I guess in February as the largest store and with the most indoor space GCT will be the place to hang out and wait for the new iPad. That place is gonna be a made house. I see some pros and cons for those traveling and shopping at other retail spaces there.
Ah, yes... GCT not GCS... my mistake.
A made house? I can see all these Mafia types hanging out in the shadows.
C'mon, have some confidence in your decisions.
I thought my Wife was great and cool in the 50s... guess what...
I thought the Beatles were great and cool in the 60s... guess what...
I thought Led Zeppelin was great and cool in the 70s.. guess what...
I thought Apple was great and cool in the 80s... guess what...
... but, then again... I've always had great taste.
You've convinced me, I'm off to get my 'finalCut Pro X rocks' tattoo right now!!
Yeah I know, but I'm an optimist
For all the folks hassling ConradJoe, I think you might be;
(a) taking him a little too literally
(b) lacking a sarcasm detector
(c) choosing to filter his comments through the ol' tried and tested 'reality distortion field'
< . . . >
I personally find modern Apple fandom to be a tad on the creepy side and if this is what it takes to be be a fan nowadays, then I'm considering changing my fan status and membership to an 'in the closet' status.
Then again, I never understood why Apple gave me a 'logo' sticker with each computer I purchased, did they seriously want me to put it on my car or display it somewhere with pride?
First, it is you who is taking CJ seriously. If he were an ordinary psychologically disturbed troll who is here to stick a thumb in everybody's eye, that would be sad, but ignorable and tolerable. But he's not, he's a paid disrupter, by his own admission. Not that I take the details of his admission seriously, just the overall scenario.
On your second point, I halfway agree with you. No word of any kind is on any t-shirt I own, and there ain't no stickers on my car. But consider the function that Apple serves these days as a crowd phenomenon or zeitgeist emblem. It's a little short on the frenzy, but it's very like what it was around the Beatles in the 60s, or maybe a combination of them and Dylan at the time. Waiting for Sgt. Pepper was similar to iPad anticipation. If we'd had fMRI at the time, and you could run someone through the machine today around the next Apple life-changer on the horizon, I betcha you'd see the same areas light up.
Steve and Woz, and Raskin, Atkinson, Hertzfeld, Ive and let's not forget Smith really did establish a New Thing worth being in a crowd for. Now it's -- oh dear! -- a "multinational corporation" making "consumerist" devices. Just like the Beatles and the record biz, more popular than Jesus at the time, according to John Lennon. But, you say, the Beatles were at least about art. Well guess who else is about art, the art of technology, which is why they deserve to draw a crowd.
But I understand what you mean. The friend I went to Woodstock with left the first day and hitched back to the city. Couldn't dig the crowd scene.
Meanwhile, notice that ConradJoe is not defending his calling those nice, clean-cut people "weirdos."
Edit: Nicely anticipated by island hermit above.
You've convinced me, I'm off to get my 'finalCut Pro X rocks' tattoo right now!!
Yeah I know, but I'm an optimist
You've convinced me, I'm off to get my 'finalCut Pro X rocks' tattoo right now!!
Yeah I know, but I'm an optimist
You go, boy!
Thumbs up!
But I understand what you mean. The friend I went to Woodstock with left the first day and hitched back to the city. Couldn't dig the crowd scene.
Maybe he took the brown acid, maybe I should take the brown acid!
You go, boy!
Thumbs up!
You should totally show your wife your last post, placing her up there with the greatness of The Beatles and Zepplin is sure to keep you in the good books, maybe just leave out the Apple comparison, she might find that one a little 'weird'
Maybe he took the brown acid, maybe I should take the brown acid!
Pretty sure it was the cold and the mud and all those crazy people still seeming to have a good time, against all reason. He's still a voice of reason to this day. Maybe wouldn't be now if he'd gotten hold of some of that. There was a lot of good blotter going around . . . sigh . . .
1) School - where I was to become an educated sheep
2) Army - where I was to become a killer sheep
But to do it of your own free will? Have they no shame or pride, or do they get paid?
He called them weirdos. He implied they were abnormal and queer. These are all synonyms. Nothing in ConradJoe's hateful comment eluded to calling them homosexuals, nor does mine. Words do have multiple meaning so the context it's used is important to understand its meaning.
I agree with you on this.
Lay off the hypersensitivity, people.
I personally find modern Apple fandom to be a tad on the creepy side and if this is what it takes to be be a fan nowadays, then I'm considering changing my fan status and membership to an 'in the closet' status.
Go ahead.
We'll miss you.
That was offensive and unnecessary.
He is offensive and unnecessary. (The management likes people like him because he brings eyeballs.)
He is offensive and unnecessary. (The management likes people like him because he brings eyeballs.)
I'm slowly coming around to this depressing POV. Why? He's still here.
You should totally show your wife your last post, placing her up there with the greatness of The Beatles and Zepplin is sure to keep you in the good books, maybe just leave out the Apple comparison, she might find that one a little 'weird'
Leave out the Apple comparison to the woman who has an iMac, iPad, iPod and iPhone. Who are the Beatles and Led Zeppelin again...
So what is the actual incentive of waiting outside for the store opening? Are there any purchase incentives at all? Giveaways?
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