I think Apple is very much like a great architect. Architect build magnificent buildings with materials that are widely available. Architects do not invent the materials but their buildings are innovative. Apple products are excellent in designs. For iPhone and iPad Apple created a new type of structure. Its competitors tried to copy as much as possible.
All of the people whining about lawsuits have no clue.
Apple should keep up with the lawsuits, and they should sue anybody who is found to have been infringing upon their patents.
All of the people... have no clue? Dont be stupid.
What if the patents Apple registered have flaws in a way that patents should not have been issued. What if Apple is abusing what it seems to be fairer patent systems by bringing this look and feel cases to COURTS?
I think Apple is very much like a great architect. Architect build magnificent buildings with materials that are widely available. Architects do not invent the materials but their buildings are innovative. Apple products are excellent in designs. For iPhone and iPad Apple created a new type of structure. Its competitors tried to copy as much as possible.
So is no one going to touch the fact that the case in question isn't made by Samsung?
They featured it....retardedly...but they didn't make it.
Then again...I'd love to see Samsung forced to deviate from the "kinda iDevice-ish" route they've been going on...I feel with the newer Tabs and the newer Galaxy S IIs they are...but I'd love for the OS overlay to deviate more.
Also the general idea of a case like that does not belong to Apple...unless they bought it from the original makers of course.
So is no one going to touch the fact that the case in question isn't made by Samsung?
Perhaps it's the actual casing of the Galaxy Tab itself that is being sued over?
Quote:
"Apple Inc., which on Dec. 9 lost a bid to keep Samsung Electronics Co.?s Galaxy 10.1 tablet out of Australia, claims the case for the device and cases for Samsung phones infringe its patents and registered design. "
"Apple believes Samsung's official case for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 infringes on its patented designs. The iPhone maker has also asserted that Samsung's cases designed for its smartphones are infringing."
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Apple got design patent on their cases? Really? Patent on cases?
Good on them, but I wonder what Apple really wants from this case. IMO, Apple wants to tarnish Samsung as 'Copycat' again but nothing else.
So is no one going to touch the fact that the case in question isn't made by Samsung?
They featured it....retardedly...but they didn't make it.
Then again...I'd love to see Samsung forced to deviate from the "kinda iDevice-ish" route they've been going on...I feel with the newer Tabs and the newer Galaxy S IIs they are...but I'd love for the OS overlay to deviate more.
Also the general idea of a case like that does not belong to Apple...unless they bought it from the original makers of course.
ROFL
Do a little research before you stick your chin out, Samsung Troll:
"Samsung is marketing a Smart Cover knock-off for its Galaxy Tab tablet. The product was adorned with the ?Designed for Samsung Mobile? certification and was carried in Samsung?s branded stores in South Korea. Youngbo Engineering owns Anymode, the company behind these cases, which is headed by Sang-yong Kim. He is the nephew of the Samsung?s chairperson Kun-Hee Lee."
Suck it, baby, and move onto the next post for your trolling duties!
Do a little research before you stick your chin out, Samsung Troll:
"Samsung is marketing a Smart Cover knock-off for its Galaxy Tab tablet. The product was adorned with the “Designed for Samsung Mobile” certification and was carried in Samsung’s branded stores in South Korea. Youngbo Engineering owns Anymode, the company behind these cases, which is headed by Sang-yong Kim. He is the nephew of the Samsung’s chairperson Kun-Hee Lee."
Suck it, baby, and move onto the next post for your trolling duties!
Umm... I was referring to considerable research that had examined the links between patent quality and innovative ability, and concludes that simple comparisons - esp. international comparisons - of patent quantity as a proxy for innovative ability creates all sorts of problems.
Propensity to patent and the value of patents differ across firms within an industry, across industries within a country, and most significantly, across countries. National patent systems are particularly thorny to compare because the degree of novelty required to patent, legislative issues, and the 'first-to-file' and the 'first-to-invent' system etc differ across countries.
Are you aware that the "Top 10 list for most patents" are patents that are filed with the USPTO? As in, patents that are filed and approved of in the US by a US government agency.
Therefore, your argument of differing standards across countries is invalid.
Also, both companies are in the same industry as well;namely consumer electronics.
Your arguments lack foundation.
Also, I'd like to see your "considerable research" that invalids a correlation between patent QUANTITY and "innovative ability".
because Apple's either terrified of suing Google directly
I highly doubt that. They are more likely going after the OEMs because Android's UI etc is more flexible and it is the OEM that is making the offending choices. If this were not the case then Samsung etc would be filing motions for dismissal on the grounds that they have no choice to do X, Y or Z and go sue Google.
Do a little research before you stick your chin out, Samsung Troll:
"Samsung is marketing a Smart Cover knock-off for its Galaxy Tab tablet. The product was adorned with the ?Designed for Samsung Mobile? certification and was carried in Samsung?s branded stores in South Korea. Youngbo Engineering owns Anymode, the company behind these cases, which is headed by Sang-yong Kim. He is the nephew of the Samsung?s chairperson Kun-Hee Lee."
Suck it, baby, and move onto the next post for your trolling duties!
Interesting, where the article come from?
I read that that design never been cerrified by Samsung and as soon as Samsung knew it the products were disappeared from the online site. I doubt that any of them had actually been sold.
Sure if the smartcase look-a-likes were manufactured and sold by Samsung, Samsung would be penalised in the court, IMO.
When companies are allowed to steal intellectual property, this actually stifles innovation because instead of innovating and inventing new things, companies are just copying. When there are a lot of me-too products on the market, profit margins are driven down so nobody makes money anymore. This results in cost cutting and job losses and high unemployment.
Stealing IP should be viewed as economic terrorism and a threat to the wealth of a nation.
I wonder where South Korea would be today if the US pulled their troops from the North Korean Border. I wonder where Taiwan would be if China is allowed to "reunite" Taiwan to the Middle Kingdom. HTC & Samsung, do not bite the hand that fed you...
I read that that design never been cerrified by Samsung and as soon as Samsung knew it the products were disappeared from the online site. I doubt that any of them had actually been sold.
Sure if the smartcase look-a-likes were manufactured and sold by Samsung, Samsung would be penalised in the court, IMO.
1) Number of patents means nothing necessarily about innovative abilities.
2) Which of the 35 or so different "Samsung" companies are you talking about as being second? (They are in just about every conceivable business, from shipbuilding to petrochemicals to hotels to chips to telecom and everything in-between.) All of them? Just the telecom piece?
I know what Jobs would say to that.
Steve Jobs: ?You are so misinformed. You?re believing a lot of erroneous blogger reports. By the way, what have you done that?s so great? Do you?just criticize others work and belittle their motivations??
It's interesting to note that Samboi's appear to have their own reality distortion field.
Go do your own research from now on.
Sorry mate, I have been following this since Apple started, but non of reliable sources said that Samsung designed or made that smartcase lookalike. That one has not even been certified by Samsung. Go and find out yourself.
Sorry mate, I have been following this since Apple started, but non of reliable sources said that Samsung designed or made that smartcase lookalike. That one has not even been certified by Samsung. Go and find out yourself.
Actually, I've been following it just one day before yourself and you have neither responded to any of the points made by myself or other members, nor provided any evidence of any of your claims.
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Innovate and invent aren't the same thing.
I think Apple is very much like a great architect. Architect build magnificent buildings with materials that are widely available. Architects do not invent the materials but their buildings are innovative. Apple products are excellent in designs. For iPhone and iPad Apple created a new type of structure. Its competitors tried to copy as much as possible.
All of the people whining about lawsuits have no clue.
Apple should keep up with the lawsuits, and they should sue anybody who is found to have been infringing upon their patents.
All of the people... have no clue? Dont be stupid.
What if the patents Apple registered have flaws in a way that patents should not have been issued. What if Apple is abusing what it seems to be fairer patent systems by bringing this look and feel cases to COURTS?
It maybe you who has no clue.
I think Apple is very much like a great architect. Architect build magnificent buildings with materials that are widely available. Architects do not invent the materials but their buildings are innovative. Apple products are excellent in designs. For iPhone and iPad Apple created a new type of structure. Its competitors tried to copy as much as possible.
Nice analogy.
They featured it....retardedly...but they didn't make it.
Then again...I'd love to see Samsung forced to deviate from the "kinda iDevice-ish" route they've been going on...I feel with the newer Tabs and the newer Galaxy S IIs they are...but I'd love for the OS overlay to deviate more.
Also the general idea of a case like that does not belong to Apple...unless they bought it from the original makers of course.
So is no one going to touch the fact that the case in question isn't made by Samsung?
Perhaps it's the actual casing of the Galaxy Tab itself that is being sued over?
"Apple Inc., which on Dec. 9 lost a bid to keep Samsung Electronics Co.?s Galaxy 10.1 tablet out of Australia, claims the case for the device and cases for Samsung phones infringe its patents and registered design. "
"Apple believes Samsung's official case for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 infringes on its patented designs. The iPhone maker has also asserted that Samsung's cases designed for its smartphones are infringing."
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Apple got design patent on their cases? Really? Patent on cases?
Good on them, but I wonder what Apple really wants from this case. IMO, Apple wants to tarnish Samsung as 'Copycat' again but nothing else.
Apple got design patent on their cases? Really? Patent on cases?
Good on them, but I wonder what Apple really wants from this case. IMO, Apple wants to tarnish Samsung as 'Copycat' again but nothing else.
Apple wants Samsung to stop copying their products. There's really no mystery here.
Apple wants Samsung to stop copying their products. There's really no mystery here.
Sure, it looks like it, but what Apple really wants? Without it, Samsung would not copy if they copied as Apple claimed.
So is no one going to touch the fact that the case in question isn't made by Samsung?
They featured it....retardedly...but they didn't make it.
Then again...I'd love to see Samsung forced to deviate from the "kinda iDevice-ish" route they've been going on...I feel with the newer Tabs and the newer Galaxy S IIs they are...but I'd love for the OS overlay to deviate more.
Also the general idea of a case like that does not belong to Apple...unless they bought it from the original makers of course.
ROFL
Do a little research before you stick your chin out, Samsung Troll:
"Samsung is marketing a Smart Cover knock-off for its Galaxy Tab tablet. The product was adorned with the ?Designed for Samsung Mobile? certification and was carried in Samsung?s branded stores in South Korea. Youngbo Engineering owns Anymode, the company behind these cases, which is headed by Sang-yong Kim. He is the nephew of the Samsung?s chairperson Kun-Hee Lee."
Suck it, baby, and move onto the next post for your trolling duties!
ROFL
Do a little research before you stick your chin out, Samsung Troll:
"Samsung is marketing a Smart Cover knock-off for its Galaxy Tab tablet. The product was adorned with the “Designed for Samsung Mobile” certification and was carried in Samsung’s branded stores in South Korea. Youngbo Engineering owns Anymode, the company behind these cases, which is headed by Sang-yong Kim. He is the nephew of the Samsung’s chairperson Kun-Hee Lee."
Suck it, baby, and move onto the next post for your trolling duties!
Ouch. Ouch.
I await AbsoluteDesignz's reply.
Umm... I was referring to considerable research that had examined the links between patent quality and innovative ability, and concludes that simple comparisons - esp. international comparisons - of patent quantity as a proxy for innovative ability creates all sorts of problems.
Propensity to patent and the value of patents differ across firms within an industry, across industries within a country, and most significantly, across countries. National patent systems are particularly thorny to compare because the degree of novelty required to patent, legislative issues, and the 'first-to-file' and the 'first-to-invent' system etc differ across countries.
Are you aware that the "Top 10 list for most patents" are patents that are filed with the USPTO? As in, patents that are filed and approved of in the US by a US government agency.
Therefore, your argument of differing standards across countries is invalid.
Also, both companies are in the same industry as well;namely consumer electronics.
Your arguments lack foundation.
Also, I'd like to see your "considerable research" that invalids a correlation between patent QUANTITY and "innovative ability".
because Apple's either terrified of suing Google directly
I highly doubt that. They are more likely going after the OEMs because Android's UI etc is more flexible and it is the OEM that is making the offending choices. If this were not the case then Samsung etc would be filing motions for dismissal on the grounds that they have no choice to do X, Y or Z and go sue Google.
ROFL
Do a little research before you stick your chin out, Samsung Troll:
"Samsung is marketing a Smart Cover knock-off for its Galaxy Tab tablet. The product was adorned with the ?Designed for Samsung Mobile? certification and was carried in Samsung?s branded stores in South Korea. Youngbo Engineering owns Anymode, the company behind these cases, which is headed by Sang-yong Kim. He is the nephew of the Samsung?s chairperson Kun-Hee Lee."
Suck it, baby, and move onto the next post for your trolling duties!
Interesting, where the article come from?
I read that that design never been cerrified by Samsung and as soon as Samsung knew it the products were disappeared from the online site. I doubt that any of them had actually been sold.
Sure if the smartcase look-a-likes were manufactured and sold by Samsung, Samsung would be penalised in the court, IMO.
Stealing IP should be viewed as economic terrorism and a threat to the wealth of a nation.
I wonder where South Korea would be today if the US pulled their troops from the North Korean Border. I wonder where Taiwan would be if China is allowed to "reunite" Taiwan to the Middle Kingdom. HTC & Samsung, do not bite the hand that fed you...
Interesting, where the article come from?
I read that that design never been cerrified by Samsung and as soon as Samsung knew it the products were disappeared from the online site. I doubt that any of them had actually been sold.
Sure if the smartcase look-a-likes were manufactured and sold by Samsung, Samsung would be penalised in the court, IMO.
For the Korean speaking:
http://www.asiae.co.kr/news/view.htm...71307021690424
For the non-Korean:
http://9to5mac.com/2011/07/18/family...store-shelves/
For the connection:
http://www.linkedin.com/company/anymode-corporation
1) Number of patents means nothing necessarily about innovative abilities.
2) Which of the 35 or so different "Samsung" companies are you talking about as being second? (They are in just about every conceivable business, from shipbuilding to petrochemicals to hotels to chips to telecom and everything in-between.) All of them? Just the telecom piece?
I know what Jobs would say to that.
Steve Jobs: ?You are so misinformed. You?re believing a lot of erroneous blogger reports. By the way, what have you done that?s so great? Do you?just criticize others work and belittle their motivations??
For the Korean speaking:
http://www.asiae.co.kr/news/view.htm...71307021690424
For the non-Korean:
http://9to5mac.com/2011/07/18/family...store-shelves/
For the connection:
http://www.linkedin.com/company/anymode-corporation
So your reference was only from 9to5? Where is the article that says Samsung certified that design?
So your reference was only from 9to5? Where is the article that says Samsung certified that design?
Good Lord, my friend!
Three links, in two different languages (did you read the Korean one?), with two pictures clearly showing the official Samsung logo on the covers.
How about this link from an Android site (via Gizmodo):
http://phandroid.com/2011/07/18/sams...ng-their-case/
It's interesting to note that Samboi's appear to have their own reality distortion field.
Go do your own research from now on.
Good Lord, my friend!
Three links, in two different languages (did you read the Korean one?), with two pictures clearly showing the official Samsung logo on the covers.
How about this link from an Android site (via Gizmodo):
http://phandroid.com/2011/07/18/sams...ng-their-case/
It's interesting to note that Samboi's appear to have their own reality distortion field.
Go do your own research from now on.
Sorry mate, I have been following this since Apple started, but non of reliable sources said that Samsung designed or made that smartcase lookalike. That one has not even been certified by Samsung. Go and find out yourself.
Sorry mate, I have been following this since Apple started, but non of reliable sources said that Samsung designed or made that smartcase lookalike. That one has not even been certified by Samsung. Go and find out yourself.
Actually, I've been following it just one day before yourself
You are, as they say, full of shit.