Apple asks for US preliminary injunction of Samsung's Android 4.0 Galaxy Nexus

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  • Reply 121 of 448
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MicroNix View Post


    Just look at 50% - 80% of the "new" items in iOS 4 and iOS 5 and you'll see Google's innovations.



    "Great artists steal"



    Like what?



    Or are you just feeling random today?
  • Reply 122 of 448
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,088member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Galeforce View Post


    Google didn't innovate them - they existed in other OSs such as WebOS and WinMob.



    You're confusing innovate with invent. It's a common mistake.
  • Reply 123 of 448
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    Originally Posted by Fairthrope View Post


    It's rare because Nexus wasn't meant for retail to begin with. It is a referenced handset, a test mule if you will, meant for App developers to learn and develop their apps for ICS on a vanilla Adnroid, be it features, stability or functions. So if your apps run on Nexus, it should run anywhere. Goggle doesn't have the option to give retail handsets to developers like Apple, but Nexus will be a yardstick all Android 4.0 apps will be tested on.



    The first batch Samsung made are probably go direct to Google's developers and third-party clients who has signed up and has storefronts in Marketplace. Not much different from a contract developers signed before developing for iTunes Stores. Either way, Nexus is not for us retail buyers.



    All the units you see on sale are leftovers from any developers who aren't interested to jump on ICS development right away. And when Samsung built all the units contracted with Google, that would be it.



    If you want a proper working Android 4.0 handset, wait until May for Galaxy 3. That is what Samsung would like to sell more. Why put your back into promoting Google's line when you have your own to prop?



    That is total complete and utter nonsense



    The Nexus is NOT a developer handset, it is a full commercial product. You do not make a million developer handsets.



    The Nexus One was Google's own attempt at alternative marketing and it failed miserably



    The Nexus S was another alternative marketing ploy suggested by BestBuy Europe to Google and manufactured by Samsung using existing Galaxy S parts with only added NFC as Google wanted to get it to market as it was rumoured Apple were going to. It too, failed miserably.



    The Galaxy Nexus is a joint Samsung/Google device intended as a high end with Samsung seeking to gain high profit margins on it from the Google association even though its production costs are probably the same as the SGS2. It is not selling well outside the US because people aren't being fooled



    All this "reference handset" is crap dreamed up by Andy Rubin to brainwash Fandroids
  • Reply 124 of 448
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MicroNix View Post


    Tech is tech no matter how its used. Doesn't matter if it is in a phone, PC, pager or whatnot. If there's a patent on a specific i/o operation, there's not much disputing.



    Apple dispute it and many technical experts commenting on it agree.
  • Reply 125 of 448
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,088member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Galeforce View Post


    Apple dispute it and many technical experts commenting on it agree.



    That's not actually saying anything. There's a lot of technical experts who will tell you that Android is no copy of iOS. Or that Android isn't violating Oracle IP. Or that Microsoft may not currently have any valid patents claims against Android.



    There's a technical expert for every claim.
  • Reply 126 of 448
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post


    That's not actually saying anything. There's a lot of technical experts who will tell you that Android is no copy of iOS.



    Yeah, but they're referring to the good bits of iOS when they say that.
  • Reply 127 of 448
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post


    Like what?



    Or are you just feeling random today?



    1) Notification bar

    2) Syncing settings to the "cloud"

    3) Multitasking...(wait, Apple's not quite there yet)

    4) Background app updates

    5) Voice control

    6) Social networking integration

    7) OTA updates

    8) WIFI syncing

    9) Tabbed browsing (tablets)

    10) Opening apps from the lock screen



    "Great artists steal" ... and that's ok as long as it is only Apple doing the stealing, right?
  • Reply 128 of 448
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Galeforce View Post


    Apple dispute it and many technical experts commenting on it agree.



    Obviously that has convinced no one in authority yet now has it?
  • Reply 129 of 448
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MicroNix View Post


    Tech is tech no matter how its used. Doesn't matter if it is in a phone, PC, pager or whatnot. If there's a patent on a specific i/o operation, there's not much disputing.



    I'm trying to work out if you're young, dumb, or just uneducated.



    Or should I be making more than one choice...



    Can you provide any further clues?
  • Reply 130 of 448
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MicroNix View Post


    1) Notification bar

    2) Syncing settings to the "cloud"

    3) Multitasking...(wait, Apple's not quite there yet)

    4) Background app updates

    5) Voice control

    6) Social networking integration

    7) OTA updates

    8) WIFI syncing

    9) Tabbed browsing (tablets)

    10) Opening apps from the lock screen



    "Great artists steal" ... and that's ok as long as it is only Apple doing the stealing, right?



    LOL. You are silly.



    So Google, by the same token, stole 'search' -- from which, it derives 96% of its revenue -- from Lycos and Dogpile?
  • Reply 131 of 448
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MicroNix View Post


    1) Notification bar

    2) Syncing settings to the "cloud"

    3) Multitasking...(wait, Apple's not quite there yet)

    4) Background app updates

    5) Voice control

    6) Social networking integration

    7) OTA updates

    8) WIFI syncing

    9) Tabbed browsing (tablets)

    10) Opening apps from the lock screen



    "Great artists steal" ... and that's ok as long as it is only Apple doing the stealing, right?



    How do you steal from an 'open source' OS?
  • Reply 132 of 448
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MicroNix View Post


    1) Notification bar

    2) Syncing settings to the "cloud"

    3) Multitasking...(wait, Apple's not quite there yet)

    4) Background app updates

    5) Voice control

    6) Social networking integration

    7) OTA updates

    8) WIFI syncing

    9) Tabbed browsing (tablets)

    10) Opening apps from the lock screen



    Every single one of those predate any release of Android OS.



    Quote:

    "Great artists steal" ... and that's ok as long as it is only Apple doing the stealing, right?



    I prefer the more accurate though less common "Douche bags use contextomy."
  • Reply 133 of 448
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post


    LOL. You are silly.



    So Google, by the same token, stole 'search' -- from which, it derives 96% of its revenue -- from Lycos and Dogpile?



    Google also stole advertising as I can prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that ads existed before Google.
  • Reply 134 of 448
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post


    I prefer the more accurate though less common "Douche bags use contextomy."



    Dude, don't make him go use the dictionary. That's cruel!
  • Reply 135 of 448
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MicroNix View Post


    3) Multitasking...(wait, Apple's not quite there yet)



    I'd love an explanation, once and for all, how Android even has multitasking and how iOS somehow doesn't. Because I just don't get you guys' argument.



    Quote:

    5) Voice control



    ...
  • Reply 136 of 448
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post


    Google also stole advertising as I can prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that ads existed before Google.



  • Reply 137 of 448
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,088member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post


    Every single one of those predate any release of Android OS.



    Which doesn't mean they aren't innovative features does it? There's a lot of iOS features that existed well before Apple used them, but are still considered significant improvements over what existed before. Is that innovative?
  • Reply 138 of 448
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MicroNix View Post


    1) Notification bar

    2) Syncing settings to the "cloud"

    3) Multitasking...(wait, Apple's not quite there yet)

    4) Background app updates

    5) Voice control

    6) Social networking integration

    7) OTA updates

    8) WIFI syncing

    9) Tabbed browsing (tablets)

    10) Opening apps from the lock screen



    "Great artists steal" ... and that's ok as long as it is only Apple doing the stealing, right?



    None of which were innovative when Google used them so they were stealing as well?
  • Reply 139 of 448
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,088member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Galeforce View Post


    None of which were innovative when Google used them so they were stealing as well?



    Personally I think most of those as used in Android were innovative. Again, I think invention is being confused with innovation.
  • Reply 140 of 448
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post


    Which doesn't mean they aren't innovative features does it? There's a lot of iOS features that existed well before Apple used them, but are still considered significant improvements over what existed before and worthy of patenting. Is that innovative?



    Sure, we've had this discussion before. Google has surely innovated search and ads on the internet but as the joking about that with anantksundaram eludes to the statements made my MicroNix are rubbish. The guy listed multitasking as an innovation. Come on!
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