It is not about sales figures. It is about consistencies and logic. We've heard many stupid arguments about why the iPad is not a PC and every time one of these argument is addressed another more ridiculous one comes up. In my opinion if it is a feature that can be added by a software update then it is not a valid reason. Can Apple release Xcode for iPad? Sure they can. Are they going to release it? Most likely they will not.
If it doesn't have a PS/2 port it''s not a PC.
All joking aside, the iPad's existence does seem to have made the Apple haters at least consider the Mac a "PC".
It is not about sales figures. It is about consistencies and logic. We've heard many stupid arguments about why the iPad is not a PC and every time one of these argument is addressed another more ridiculous one comes up. In my opinion if it is a feature that can be added by a software update then it is not a valid reason. Can Apple release Xcode for iPad? Sure they can. Are they going to release it? Most likely they will not.
Well if that happens then the iPad will be a PC.
Actually an iPad can be a PC by my definition if you jailbreak it. Then you would have a bash shell where you could write a program and execute it.
If a PC has a fried motherboard it ceases to be a PC and becomes a boat anchor.
if you can do your work on an iPad you not a MAC user - anything with IOS is a toy - they not in the same column.
as usual, iOS the dumbing down of Apple
Ridiculous. I have many Macs and also iDevices. I do work on both of them, depending upon what I am looking to do.
I bet that you do not do any serious work at all on any machine. And I bet that I would be more productive with a tiny iPod Touch than you would be if you were given IBM's Watson to use.
And it's not spelt MAC! Only trolls, fandroids and people who are completely ignorant of Apple capitalize every letter in the word MAC!
I guess the main difference in our ideas of what is and is not a personal computer is that I don't like the idea of having a device that can be in more than one category especially when people misuse that in making an argument. They just switch the category as it suits their mood at any given point in time. For the motorcycle example: The DMV is going to put the three-wheeled vehicle in one category or the other depending on their definition which may be arbitrary but the one thing they won't do it put a car license plate on the front and a motorcycle license plate on the back.
Well, yes. But the motorcycle won't be given a car license because it isn't a car. It is a motor vehicle though, and that's why you go to the motor vehicle bureau for the license.
And the iPad isn't a laptop, so we don't call it that. We call it a tablet, but it is a personal computer.
It is not about sales figures. It is about consistencies and logic. We've heard many stupid arguments about why the iPad is not a PC and every time one of these argument is addressed another more ridiculous one comes up. In my opinion if it is a feature that can be added by a software update then it is not a valid reason. Can Apple release Xcode for iPad? Sure they can. Are they going to release it? Most likely they will not.
Yeah, it's not about double counting or something like that. It's just a matter of wondering; just what is this thing?
If we want to count, we can say that Apple sold, say, 60 million computers this year. 6 million desktops, 14 million laptops, and 40 million tablets. Easy peasy.
Yep I'm old school. I don't mind using an iPad for casual stuff like now as I type this on my iPad but when I want to do actual computing I can't stand the computer getting in my way and intentionally preventing me from doing what I want to do. I am sort of stuck, as you say, on that old fashion notion that I should be able to create and save a text file with a file extension and directory location of my choosing. That is what I expect from a PC. From a mobile device I am much less demanding.
Yep I'm old school. I don't mind using an iPad for casual stuff like now as I type this on my iPad but when I want to do actual computing I can't stand the computer getting in my way and intentionally preventing me from doing what I want to do. I am sort of stuck, as you say, on that old fashion notion that I should be able to create and save a text file with a file extension and directory location of my choosing. That is what I expect from a PC. From a mobile device I am much less demanding.
Well, you know, there are a number of differing types of computers. We have mainframes, mini computers, workstations, servers, and personal computers of various favors and capabilities.
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It is not about sales figures. It is about consistencies and logic. We've heard many stupid arguments about why the iPad is not a PC and every time one of these argument is addressed another more ridiculous one comes up. In my opinion if it is a feature that can be added by a software update then it is not a valid reason. Can Apple release Xcode for iPad? Sure they can. Are they going to release it? Most likely they will not.
If it doesn't have a PS/2 port it''s not a PC.
All joking aside, the iPad's existence does seem to have made the Apple haters at least consider the Mac a "PC".
It is not about sales figures. It is about consistencies and logic. We've heard many stupid arguments about why the iPad is not a PC and every time one of these argument is addressed another more ridiculous one comes up. In my opinion if it is a feature that can be added by a software update then it is not a valid reason. Can Apple release Xcode for iPad? Sure they can. Are they going to release it? Most likely they will not.
Well if that happens then the iPad will be a PC.
Actually an iPad can be a PC by my definition if you jailbreak it. Then you would have a bash shell where you could write a program and execute it.
If a PC has a fried motherboard it ceases to be a PC and becomes a boat anchor.
Well if that happens then the iPad will be a PC. If a PC has a fried motherboard it ceases to be a PC and becomes a boat anchor.
Define boat? j/k
Define boat? j/k
A hole in the water into which you pour money.
if you can do your work on an iPad you not a MAC user - anything with IOS is a toy - they not in the same column.
as usual, iOS the dumbing down of Apple
Ridiculous. I have many Macs and also iDevices. I do work on both of them, depending upon what I am looking to do.
I bet that you do not do any serious work at all on any machine. And I bet that I would be more productive with a tiny iPod Touch than you would be if you were given IBM's Watson to use.
And it's not spelt MAC! Only trolls, fandroids and people who are completely ignorant of Apple capitalize every letter in the word MAC!
I guess the main difference in our ideas of what is and is not a personal computer is that I don't like the idea of having a device that can be in more than one category especially when people misuse that in making an argument. They just switch the category as it suits their mood at any given point in time. For the motorcycle example: The DMV is going to put the three-wheeled vehicle in one category or the other depending on their definition which may be arbitrary but the one thing they won't do it put a car license plate on the front and a motorcycle license plate on the back.
Well, yes. But the motorcycle won't be given a car license because it isn't a car. It is a motor vehicle though, and that's why you go to the motor vehicle bureau for the license.
And the iPad isn't a laptop, so we don't call it that. We call it a tablet, but it is a personal computer.
I think you're just stuck on the old forms.
It is not about sales figures. It is about consistencies and logic. We've heard many stupid arguments about why the iPad is not a PC and every time one of these argument is addressed another more ridiculous one comes up. In my opinion if it is a feature that can be added by a software update then it is not a valid reason. Can Apple release Xcode for iPad? Sure they can. Are they going to release it? Most likely they will not.
Yeah, it's not about double counting or something like that. It's just a matter of wondering; just what is this thing?
If we want to count, we can say that Apple sold, say, 60 million computers this year. 6 million desktops, 14 million laptops, and 40 million tablets. Easy peasy.
I think you're just stuck on the old forms.
Yep I'm old school. I don't mind using an iPad for casual stuff like now as I type this on my iPad but when I want to do actual computing I can't stand the computer getting in my way and intentionally preventing me from doing what I want to do. I am sort of stuck, as you say, on that old fashion notion that I should be able to create and save a text file with a file extension and directory location of my choosing. That is what I expect from a PC. From a mobile device I am much less demanding.
I recommend reading 'Only The Paranoid Survive'. In retrospect the iPad can be easily seen as 10X change.
Yep I'm old school. I don't mind using an iPad for casual stuff like now as I type this on my iPad but when I want to do actual computing I can't stand the computer getting in my way and intentionally preventing me from doing what I want to do. I am sort of stuck, as you say, on that old fashion notion that I should be able to create and save a text file with a file extension and directory location of my choosing. That is what I expect from a PC. From a mobile device I am much less demanding.
Well, you know, there are a number of differing types of computers. We have mainframes, mini computers, workstations, servers, and personal computers of various favors and capabilities.
Pick your poison.