As for the design of the tablet itself, it really looks like a rather nasty 1980s throw-back.
Remember the original ugly blocky MS Mouse? I think that's where they got their design cues from.
Even allowing for the shortcomings this thing has as a device, you'd think they could have found an industrial designer with some smarts... certainly the one they've got isn't going to be giving Sir Jonny Ive a run for his money any time soon. The back of the thing is hideous.
This is the "Pro" model with the tactile keyboard. Easily a replacement for my MacBook Air. It has an i5 Processor and runs both metro and desktop apps, so I can use it as both a laptop and tablet. Best part is, no syncing, ever.
No pricing announced. Battery life? Is this thing supposed to sit on a desk or on your lap? Will the kick stand snap? How much are those smart covers with keyboards on them? What is Windows RT, I thought it was for tablets but now it seems it's only for half the tablets? There's a keyboard and a pen and a USB port for a mouse!
Looks great actually. Not sure why some people here are bashing it. Does it look similar to an iPad? Sure. But it's a very different machine software-wise, and from the looks of it, it'll be much more capable as a laptop replacement with the versatility of a tablet. That sounds good from where I'm at.
It doesn't look similar to an iPad. (except for the raw dimensions.) The iPad has curved surfaces. Actually, the only continuously flat surface on the iPad is the screen!
I do not see how they can make this item at a price that is lower then the iPad. And at a price higher then the iPad it will not sell. So either MS is going to lose money or they are going to sell very few.
This is the "Pro" model with the tactile keyboard. Easily a replacement for my MacBook Air. It has an i5 Processor and runs both metro and desktop apps, so I can use it as both a laptop and tablet. Best part is, no syncing, ever.
Sounds awesome here. Barring poor reviews, I'd easily consider this over the new iPads and MacBooks.
How does that knife feel in your back Dell, HP, Lenovo, Acer, Samesung, etc...? Typical Microsoft, back stabbing their suckers, i mean partners. This thing has fail written all over it. The Fugly, Unusable Metro UI simply does not work, as evidence in the failed Zune and the failed Windows Phone. The Hardware looks horribly ugly too. Wonder if Ballmer will finally get the axe when this thing fails big time.
How does that knife feel in your back Dell, HP, Lenovo, Acer, Samesung, etc...? Typical Microsoft, back stabbing their suckers, i mean partners. This thing has fail written all over it. The Fugly, Unusable Metro UI simply does not work, as evidence in the failed Zune and the failed Windows Phone. The Hardware looks horribly ugly too. Wonder if Ballmer will finally get the axe when this thing fails big time.
You appear to be mistaking marketing fail with functionality fail. In what way does Metro "not work" on Windows Phone?
How does that knife feel in your back Dell, HP, Lenovo, Acer, Samesung, etc...? Typical Microsoft, back stabbing their suckers, i mean partners. This thing has fail written all over it. The Fugly, Unusable Metro UI simply does not work, as evidence in the failed Zune and the failed Windows Phone. The Hardware looks horribly ugly too. Wonder if Ballmer will finally get the axe when this thing fails big time.
Well, we DO know that MS just threw a big f*ck-you to their partners.
Will you take all your pictures with the "Surface"? If not, how will you get your pictures on to the "Surface" without syncing? Syncing is for much more than pictures too.
I like having a 24 logical core computer, and iPhone, an iPad, an iMac, and a MacBook Pro, that have all the same data through syncing. Each machine has it's strengths. I wouldn't expect to do 4K video encoding on my iPhone, nor will I carry a Mac Pro in my pocket.
If this "Surface" can actually do everything you wantvery well, then you've got your dream machine!
It looks positively uncomfortable to hold, especially if that kickstand starts flapping about.
There was a reason why Apple ditched the angular edges of the iPad1 for the gently curved bevelling of the '2 and '3. My new iPad is so much nicer to hold sans-case than my first gen iPad.
I can see that Microsoft are hoping for enterprise adoption for this thing, but the problem is, the enterprise sees computers as sit-down-in-front-of work machines and laptops are for commuting or working on at home. There won't be many directly enterprise related applications for this Windows tablet that will overcome the drawbacks of buying a laptop-alike that will regularly fall apart at the seams (those keyboard cover things aren't going to stay put that well).
It's going to bomb, and it's going to bomb big time.
Mistake. MS offering too many devices and not coordinated with an OS, And not available now, and not in stores, no price mentioned. Poorly done annoincement.
It looks positively uncomfortable to hold, especially if that kickstand starts flapping about.
There was a reason why Apple ditched the angular edges of the iPad1 for the gently curved bevelling of the '2 and '3. My new iPad is so much nicer to hold sans-case than my first gen iPad.
I can see that Microsoft are hoping for enterprise adoption for this thing, but the problem is, the enterprise sees computers as sit-down-in-front-of work machines and laptops are for commuting or working on at home. There won't be many directly enterprise related applications for this Windows tablet that will overcome the drawbacks of buying a laptop-alike that will regularly fall apart at the seams (those keyboard cover things aren't going to stay put that well).
It's going to bomb, and it's going to bomb big time.
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Originally Posted by Mike Fix
USB!! Thank you! If my audio software will run on this and my USB audio devices work.. I'm sold.
but the future will be wireless.
As for the design of the tablet itself, it really looks like a rather nasty 1980s throw-back.
Remember the original ugly blocky MS Mouse? I think that's where they got their design cues from.
Even allowing for the shortcomings this thing has as a device, you'd think they could have found an industrial designer with some smarts... certainly the one they've got isn't going to be giving Sir Jonny Ive a run for his money any time soon. The back of the thing is hideous.
I predict that it'll be dead by summer 2013.
This is the "Pro" model with the tactile keyboard. Easily a replacement for my MacBook Air. It has an i5 Processor and runs both metro and desktop apps, so I can use it as both a laptop and tablet. Best part is, no syncing, ever.
It doesn't look similar to an iPad. (except for the raw dimensions.) The iPad has curved surfaces. Actually, the only continuously flat surface on the iPad is the screen!
I do not see how they can make this item at a price that is lower then the iPad. And at a price higher then the iPad it will not sell. So either MS is going to lose money or they are going to sell very few.
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Originally Posted by neiltc13
This is the "Pro" model with the tactile keyboard. Easily a replacement for my MacBook Air. It has an i5 Processor and runs both metro and desktop apps, so I can use it as both a laptop and tablet. Best part is, no syncing, ever.
Sounds awesome here. Barring poor reviews, I'd easily consider this over the new iPads and MacBooks.
How does that knife feel in your back Dell, HP, Lenovo, Acer, Samesung, etc...? Typical Microsoft, back stabbing their suckers, i mean partners. This thing has fail written all over it. The Fugly, Unusable Metro UI simply does not work, as evidence in the failed Zune and the failed Windows Phone. The Hardware looks horribly ugly too. Wonder if Ballmer will finally get the axe when this thing fails big time.
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Originally Posted by bullhead
How does that knife feel in your back Dell, HP, Lenovo, Acer, Samesung, etc...? Typical Microsoft, back stabbing their suckers, i mean partners. This thing has fail written all over it. The Fugly, Unusable Metro UI simply does not work, as evidence in the failed Zune and the failed Windows Phone. The Hardware looks horribly ugly too. Wonder if Ballmer will finally get the axe when this thing fails big time.
You appear to be mistaking marketing fail with functionality fail. In what way does Metro "not work" on Windows Phone?
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Originally Posted by bullhead
How does that knife feel in your back Dell, HP, Lenovo, Acer, Samesung, etc...? Typical Microsoft, back stabbing their suckers, i mean partners. This thing has fail written all over it. The Fugly, Unusable Metro UI simply does not work, as evidence in the failed Zune and the failed Windows Phone. The Hardware looks horribly ugly too. Wonder if Ballmer will finally get the axe when this thing fails big time.
Well, we DO know that MS just threw a big f*ck-you to their partners.
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Originally Posted by Clamdigger63
You Apple Fanbois are a joke. Coming up with every half assed negative comment you can think off. Hahahaha
It brings nothing really worthwhile to the table.
Like Windows Phone.
Will you take all your pictures with the "Surface"? If not, how will you get your pictures on to the "Surface" without syncing? Syncing is for much more than pictures too.
I like having a 24 logical core computer, and iPhone, an iPad, an iMac, and a MacBook Pro, that have all the same data through syncing. Each machine has it's strengths. I wouldn't expect to do 4K video encoding on my iPhone, nor will I carry a Mac Pro in my pocket.
If this "Surface" can actually do everything you want very well, then you've got your dream machine!
It looks positively uncomfortable to hold, especially if that kickstand starts flapping about.
There was a reason why Apple ditched the angular edges of the iPad1 for the gently curved bevelling of the '2 and '3. My new iPad is so much nicer to hold sans-case than my first gen iPad.
I can see that Microsoft are hoping for enterprise adoption for this thing, but the problem is, the enterprise sees computers as sit-down-in-front-of work machines and laptops are for commuting or working on at home. There won't be many directly enterprise related applications for this Windows tablet that will overcome the drawbacks of buying a laptop-alike that will regularly fall apart at the seams (those keyboard cover things aren't going to stay put that well).
It's going to bomb, and it's going to bomb big time.
As for this device - I don't think it looks too bad but with the competition from Apple I think it will fail.
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It brings nothing really worthwhile to the table.
It won't need a jailbreak to enable basic features. That's something. I'm willing to give it a chance.
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Sounds awesome here. Barring poor reviews, I'd easily consider this over the new iPads and MacBooks.
hey, Jay, tell me you're not an MS astroturf PR contract guy?
Might be an interesting product.
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It looks positively uncomfortable to hold, especially if that kickstand starts flapping about.
There was a reason why Apple ditched the angular edges of the iPad1 for the gently curved bevelling of the '2 and '3. My new iPad is so much nicer to hold sans-case than my first gen iPad.
I can see that Microsoft are hoping for enterprise adoption for this thing, but the problem is, the enterprise sees computers as sit-down-in-front-of work machines and laptops are for commuting or working on at home. There won't be many directly enterprise related applications for this Windows tablet that will overcome the drawbacks of buying a laptop-alike that will regularly fall apart at the seams (those keyboard cover things aren't going to stay put that well).
It's going to bomb, and it's going to bomb big time.
Re-branded Acer Iconia.
Same idea.