That thing is just slightly larger than the largest Android phones. Are Fandroids so dumb, that they'll carry around both a 5" phone and a 7" tablet? Wait a second, don't answer that, as I am well aware of the mindless stupidity of Fandroids, which knows no limits. At the end of the day, neither of those sizes are acceptable for doing any real tablet tasks. And for people who supposedly claim to care about specs, 16GB max is kind of lame.
I bet Apple are breathing a huge sigh of relief when they read this anal-yst's thoughts. I can imagine prior to this revolation that Apple as a whole were shi**ing bricks.
That thing is just slightly larger than the largest Android phones. Are Fandroids so dumb, that they'll carry around both a 5" phone and a 7" tablet? Wait a second, don't answer that, as I am well aware of the mindless stupidity of Fandroids, which knows no limits. At the end of the day, neither of those sizes are acceptable for doing any real tablet tasks. And for people who supposedly claim to care about specs, 16GB max is kind of lame.
How aggressive. If I had the money/time/desire, I'd get one just to NOT be like you.
Even though I am a big fan of Apple products, I have to say this tablet is pretty compelling at $199. That Tegra CPU blows away the current A5 processors in the iPad. I like the fact it has GPS built in as well.
I agree that this tablet will not be serious competition to the iPad. It is the iPod Touch that is in serious trouble here. How can Apple hope to sell the current iPod Touch with an old A4 processor, 256 MB of RAM, no GPS and a tiny 3.5" screen for the same price as this 7" tablet? I fully expect Apple's 7" tablet to replace the iPod Touch. I just hope it can compete on specs with the Android Nexus tablet.
You seem to be missing the fact that fewer suckers are blindly purchasing inferior products anymore based on their "specs." That is so pre-2007. Apple's products are successful because of their unmatched user experience and value. Nobody in the market for a super thin, pocketable iPod Touch is going to buy a crappy quality 7" tablet with no app support instead.
Even though I am a big fan of Apple products, I have to say this tablet is pretty compelling at $199. That Tegra CPU blows away the current A5 processors in the iPad. I like the fact it has GPS built in as well.
I agree that this tablet will not be serious competition to the iPad. It is the iPod Touch that is in serious trouble here. How can Apple hope to sell the current iPod Touch with an old A4 processor, 256 MB of RAM, no GPS and a tiny 3.5" screen for the same price as this 7" tablet? I fully expect Apple's 7" tablet to replace the iPod Touch. I just hope it can compete on specs with the Android Nexus tablet.
The iPod Touch actually has a rear facing camera and a retina display but yes, if Apple put out a 7" iPod Touch, they could probably bury these bottom-end slabs like the Nexus and Fire out of business.
That thing is just slightly larger than the largest Android phones. Are Fandroids so dumb, that they'll carry around both a 5" phone and a 7" tablet? Wait a second, don't answer that, as I am well aware of the mindless stupidity of Fandroids, which knows no limits. At the end of the day, neither of those sizes are acceptable for doing any real tablet tasks. And for people who supposedly claim to care about specs, 16GB max is kind of lame.
Thinking the same thing here. Why choose a phone that's too big for your pocket and a tablet that's barely bigger than your phone?
I don't think Apple was ever worried about this. The only reason it got any press at all was Google throwing their name around. If it had been only Asus-branded, I doubt the analysts would even bother to mention it, precisely because it is just another $199 seven-inch Android tablet.
I don't think anyone here is actually getting the point of the Nexus devices. They're intended as concept builds, examples of recommended hardware configurations matched to newly introduced OS versions.
Google isn't attempting to compete with any of it's licensee's with this tablet and certainly not Apple. This is a consumption device example, much too small to be used as a serious creation tool. The tablets that follow this one over the next few months will add to Google's basic Nexus7 concept model, running Android 4.1x, yet despite added features several will still hit the sub-$200 price-point. Others will play up in the more premium 9-11" tablet space with more premium pricing, but using the same general base hardware specifications with the same OS version.
It's fun for the media to proclaim Nexus devices as Google's flagship models and intended to go directly after Apple. They're not. Nexus models are used to introduce a new OS and the recommended hardware to support it.
Nexus 7 is competing with Nook & Fire for sub-$250 tablet market. They seem to be after the low-end market and digital consumption. Not sure why they would think the mass consumer would eat this up??? Did Netbook ever take off because it was cheap???
Agreed. And would like to add that Jelly Bean (Android 4.1) is more advanced than iOS 5 and possibly even iOS 6 when it comes to features.
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Originally Posted by GrangerFX
Even though I am a big fan of Apple products, I have to say this tablet is pretty compelling at $199. That Tegra CPU blows away the current A5 processors in the iPad. I like the fact it has GPS built in as well.
I agree that this tablet will not be serious competition to the iPad. It is the iPod Touch that is in serious trouble here. How can Apple hope to sell the current iPod Touch with an old A4 processor, 256 MB of RAM, no GPS and a tiny 3.5" screen for the same price as this 7" tablet? I fully expect Apple's 7" tablet to replace the iPod Touch. I just hope it can compete on specs with the Android Nexus tablet.
Agreed. And would like to add that Jelly Bean (Android 4.1) is more advanced than iOS 5 and possibly even iOS 6 when it comes to features.
When I use my iPad 2, only a few things come to mind regarding the device itself: The impressive screen, battery life, and its build quality. I think most consumers have the same criteria, so processors, OS features, etc. are immaterial to the mass market. Sure, some may complain, but most don't know how to implement the features currently in the device (e.g., gestures, app switching, etc.).
When I use my iPad 2, only a few things come to mind regarding the device itself: The impressive screen, battery life, and its build quality.
The Nexus7 is reported to have an impressive screen and good battery life. Build quality is yet to be determined, but as it's an ASUS product I'd be surprised if it was an issue.
Or at any other price point either.
If they can't even get the device's dimensions right, then I can't see them getting the more complicated stuff right either.
And, seriously, where's the kickstand and stylus?
(>_<)
Slightly off topic but ... Re the kick stand, the more I use Windows 8 the more I suspect the kickstand will be used literary....
Clearly this device is targeted at stopping the Amazon Fire (which is sucking what little oxygen there is out of the 7" tablet market), but, frankly, except for the die-hard Google geeks, I think the few consumers tempted by small, cheap tablets are more likely to be attracted by the Amazon device than this.
More importantly, how many GOOD apps are there in each store?
And how many malware infested apps are there in each store?
No one knows. Apple surely wouldn't officially admit to a single one, and Google doesn't report numbers either. Additionally what qualifies an app as malware-infested? Is it when it does something that's not made transparent to the user such as harvesting contacts, calendars or other personal data without clear permission?
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That thing is just slightly larger than the largest Android phones. Are Fandroids so dumb, that they'll carry around both a 5" phone and a 7" tablet? Wait a second, don't answer that, as I am well aware of the mindless stupidity of Fandroids, which knows no limits. At the end of the day, neither of those sizes are acceptable for doing any real tablet tasks. And for people who supposedly claim to care about specs, 16GB max is kind of lame.
Remind me again, why are analysts' opinions newsworthy?
ITT we learn how insecure Apple fans are.
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That thing is just slightly larger than the largest Android phones. Are Fandroids so dumb, that they'll carry around both a 5" phone and a 7" tablet? Wait a second, don't answer that, as I am well aware of the mindless stupidity of Fandroids, which knows no limits. At the end of the day, neither of those sizes are acceptable for doing any real tablet tasks. And for people who supposedly claim to care about specs, 16GB max is kind of lame.
How aggressive. If I had the money/time/desire, I'd get one just to NOT be like you.
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Originally Posted by GrangerFX
Even though I am a big fan of Apple products, I have to say this tablet is pretty compelling at $199. That Tegra CPU blows away the current A5 processors in the iPad. I like the fact it has GPS built in as well.
I agree that this tablet will not be serious competition to the iPad. It is the iPod Touch that is in serious trouble here. How can Apple hope to sell the current iPod Touch with an old A4 processor, 256 MB of RAM, no GPS and a tiny 3.5" screen for the same price as this 7" tablet? I fully expect Apple's 7" tablet to replace the iPod Touch. I just hope it can compete on specs with the Android Nexus tablet.
You seem to be missing the fact that fewer suckers are blindly purchasing inferior products anymore based on their "specs." That is so pre-2007. Apple's products are successful because of their unmatched user experience and value. Nobody in the market for a super thin, pocketable iPod Touch is going to buy a crappy quality 7" tablet with no app support instead.
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Originally Posted by fredaroony
Both iOS and Android have well over 100,000 apps in the app store with iOS around 600,000 and Android around 500,000.
How many of those apps are optimized for a 7" Android tablet?
The iPod Touch actually has a rear facing camera and a retina display but yes, if Apple put out a 7" iPod Touch, they could probably bury these bottom-end slabs like the Nexus and Fire out of business.
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Originally Posted by Apple ][
That thing is just slightly larger than the largest Android phones. Are Fandroids so dumb, that they'll carry around both a 5" phone and a 7" tablet? Wait a second, don't answer that, as I am well aware of the mindless stupidity of Fandroids, which knows no limits. At the end of the day, neither of those sizes are acceptable for doing any real tablet tasks. And for people who supposedly claim to care about specs, 16GB max is kind of lame.
Thinking the same thing here. Why choose a phone that's too big for your pocket and a tablet that's barely bigger than your phone?
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Originally Posted by freediverx
Thinking the same thing here. Why choose a phone that's too big for your pocket and a tablet that's barely bigger than your phone?
Which phone are you talking about exactly?
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Originally Posted by freediverx
How many of those apps are optimized for a 7" Android tablet?
No idea to be honest.
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Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton
I don't think Apple was ever worried about this. The only reason it got any press at all was Google throwing their name around. If it had been only Asus-branded, I doubt the analysts would even bother to mention it, precisely because it is just another $199 seven-inch Android tablet.
I don't think anyone here is actually getting the point of the Nexus devices. They're intended as concept builds, examples of recommended hardware configurations matched to newly introduced OS versions.
Google isn't attempting to compete with any of it's licensee's with this tablet and certainly not Apple. This is a consumption device example, much too small to be used as a serious creation tool. The tablets that follow this one over the next few months will add to Google's basic Nexus7 concept model, running Android 4.1x, yet despite added features several will still hit the sub-$200 price-point. Others will play up in the more premium 9-11" tablet space with more premium pricing, but using the same general base hardware specifications with the same OS version.
It's fun for the media to proclaim Nexus devices as Google's flagship models and intended to go directly after Apple. They're not. Nexus models are used to introduce a new OS and the recommended hardware to support it.
Nexus 7 is competing with Nook & Fire for sub-$250 tablet market. They seem to be after the low-end market and digital consumption. Not sure why they would think the mass consumer would eat this up??? Did Netbook ever take off because it was cheap???
Agreed. And would like to add that Jelly Bean (Android 4.1) is more advanced than iOS 5 and possibly even iOS 6 when it comes to features.
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Originally Posted by GrangerFX
Even though I am a big fan of Apple products, I have to say this tablet is pretty compelling at $199. That Tegra CPU blows away the current A5 processors in the iPad. I like the fact it has GPS built in as well.
I agree that this tablet will not be serious competition to the iPad. It is the iPod Touch that is in serious trouble here. How can Apple hope to sell the current iPod Touch with an old A4 processor, 256 MB of RAM, no GPS and a tiny 3.5" screen for the same price as this 7" tablet? I fully expect Apple's 7" tablet to replace the iPod Touch. I just hope it can compete on specs with the Android Nexus tablet.
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Originally Posted by rtm135
Agreed. And would like to add that Jelly Bean (Android 4.1) is more advanced than iOS 5 and possibly even iOS 6 when it comes to features.
When I use my iPad 2, only a few things come to mind regarding the device itself: The impressive screen, battery life, and its build quality. I think most consumers have the same criteria, so processors, OS features, etc. are immaterial to the mass market. Sure, some may complain, but most don't know how to implement the features currently in the device (e.g., gestures, app switching, etc.).
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Originally Posted by gordy
When I use my iPad 2, only a few things come to mind regarding the device itself: The impressive screen, battery life, and its build quality.
The Nexus7 is reported to have an impressive screen and good battery life. Build quality is yet to be determined, but as it's an ASUS product I'd be surprised if it was an issue.
Slightly off topic but ... Re the kick stand, the more I use Windows 8 the more I suspect the kickstand will be used literary....
Clearly this device is targeted at stopping the Amazon Fire (which is sucking what little oxygen there is out of the 7" tablet market), but, frankly, except for the die-hard Google geeks, I think the few consumers tempted by small, cheap tablets are more likely to be attracted by the Amazon device than this.
More importantly, how many GOOD apps are there in each store?
And how many malware infested apps are there in each store?
Funny how we've been hearing that since Android 1.0 came out - yet Android has still never reached the fluidity, consistency, and ease of use of iOS.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
More importantly, how many GOOD apps are there in each store?
And how many malware infested apps are there in each store?
No one knows. Apple surely wouldn't officially admit to a single one, and Google doesn't report numbers either. Additionally what qualifies an app as malware-infested? Is it when it does something that's not made transparent to the user such as harvesting contacts, calendars or other personal data without clear permission?