Or the shadow refers to the 5th generation and not actual name.
But that's wrong, too.
Originally Posted by herbapou
I like to think the 5 stands for 5 new products
I like that idea, though I don't buy it. Talk about your runaround, eh?
iPhone, iPod touch, iPod nano, iPod shuffle… what else? They COULD do it, we just have to think of a 5th product.
…if Apple was using "generation" to name phones they would have called the 4s the 5s…
But that wouldn't have made sense, either. They don't always use generation names, they've used three naming conventions in the past: generation, telephony, and speed.
Originally Posted by quinney
You frequently edit people's posts when you quote them.
But not the posts themselves. That would be disingenuous.
It is the 9th distinct hardware design; not just colors and GB but unique construction/parts for 8 prior models:
iPhone
iPhone 3G
iPhone 3GS
iPhone 4
iPhone 4 CDMA with new antenna design and mute switch position
iPhone 4 white with redesigned camera ring
iPhone 4 white CDMA with redesigned camera ring AND new antenna design/mute switch
iPhone 4s
iPhone 9
... Actually, now that we’ve all known for ages that it would just be “iPhone” from now on, like the iPad, iMac, MacBook Pro etc.... they HAD to give it a number: it’s the only thing they could surprise us with after all these leaks! I for one am indeed surprised. In a boring kind of way.
But of course it will be call iphone 5, if Apple was using "generation" to name phones they would have called the 4s the 5s...
No matter what Spock claims, 5 follows 4. Besides the naming of the iPhone or any other Apple device is is NOT a question of logic - when will people realize this?
I think everyone needs to get past whether some thought it would be the iPhone 6 or 6th gen iPhone or iPhone 5 or New iPhone or whatever. It could have gone any way. We all had reasons to see it any of those. We could all have been wrong if Apple had decided differently.
Hell, it would be a hoot of the 5 is just their way of gaming us all and TS ends up being right
I think everyone needs to get past whether some thought it would be the iPhone 6 or 6th gen iPhone or iPhone 5 or New iPhone or whatever. It could have gone any way. We all had reasons to see it any of those. We could all have been wrong if Apple had decided differently
Yes. Only the people TS arrogantly and belligerently dismissed as being WRONG can jibe back. C'mon everybody.
5...hmmm.. .available in 5 different models? on 5 different networks? works with iOS 5?
5 classes of iOS devices? iPhone, iPod, iPad, AppleTV, and some altogether new device (as a restricted user interface on an iMac)?
Clearly it is the 5th generation iPhone - and iPhone 5 works as well as anything else - despite the OS being at version 6.
IBM did change what was developed at AIX 5.4 to AIX 6 to coincide with the release of POWER6, so not unprecedented to have the name of one product drive another, of course in that case they did not skip an entire whole number. Of course they also used names like p650 as a bridge from the old RS6000 to then new pSeries branding - and the p5xx for POWER5 which made it awkward when POWER6 came out since p6xx was already used - so POWER6 marketing names were kept at p5xx or actually POWER6 5xx - leaving p7xx for current POWER7 system. Its anyone guess if they will use POWER8 8xx when POWER8 systems come out. IBM is pretty good at shuffling things up right about the time you get the old way all figured out.
If Apple had not called the current iPad "the New iPad" I would be more certain that iPhone 5 would be the most likely used name at least for marketing purposes - even if the official product name is just iPhone. But I would not be surprised in the least if the marketing was all "the New iPhone" while the official name is iPhone and the technical manuals etc refer to it as iPhone (5th Generation) along the lines of iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2011) and MacBook Pro (Retina). I suppose in the end it may come down to how much each group of product developers has to say about the name of the product they develop. For as much as Apple eschews focus groups etc, in the end someone or some group has to actually make a decision and since we are not privy to the process used for any given product the best we can do is speculate.
Kind of implies rather strongly that the A6 processor was not ready for prime time and that this will still be a 5x one instead. Lame.
It doesn't say any such thing. Apple doesn't generally use processor specs in their high level advertising messages. They didn't mind calling the previous versions the iPhone 4/4S even though they had A5 processors, for example.
I think everyone needs to get past whether some thought it would be the iPhone 6 or 6th gen iPhone or iPhone 5 or New iPhone or whatever. It could have gone any way. We all had reasons to see it any of those. We could all have been wrong if Apple had decided differently.
Yes, but there's a difference between what you're suggesting and being vehemently opposed to something and attacking others for stating a belief that differs from yours.
Frankly, I always took the position that it didn't really matter and wasn't worth worrying about. I did, however, get offended by TS outright attacks on people who thought it might be the iPhone 5. It's a little late for him to say "it doesn't matter, so let's get past it".
Similarly, his vehement attacks on the concept of an iPad Mini fall into the same pattern. He can not simply say "let's get past it" if the iPad Mini is shipped - at least not if he has even a shred of integrity.
I'm not inserting anything about the name. I change it to the right generation. I also don't edit their posts.
But it isn't. Only internally is it anything "5". And then the iPhone 4 was internally 3.
I was insistent about "iPhone 6" until this year's iPad came out, and for that I apologize, but I don't see a reason to apologize for backing "6th iPhone" thereafter.
If it is called iPhone 5, then even Apple is wrong. Sorry, but that is simply pandering to the lowest common denominator and ruins the intelligent naming conventions iPhone carried in the past. Apple may name it iPhone 5 to avoid confusing idiots who don't understand the product line or its history, but there is no reason to call the 6th generation, 4th form factor iPhone an iPhone 5.
Hi Folks, everyone always trying to guess, because this is all it is a guess - what Apple will do next.
Let's wait and see what Apple offers on September 12th. Personally, I will wait, let all the beta testers complain about bugs with the Iphone 5 and pick one up around October.
Personally, I wish (feel free and blow me away if you think I'm a few fries short of a happy meal), but wouldn't it be nice if one could remove this sim card from the Iphone 5 (new Iphone?) and insert it in the Mini Ipad and just like that one has the proverbial phabplet.
Such an option will probably increase sales of both the Iphone and mini-Ipad and quite frankly put the Galaxy Note to sleep.
My iPhone 4s runs iOS 5, and when I update it, it'll run iOS 6. As will my iPhone 5, it appears. I don't care about the name, I can't wait to see the FEATURES!
I think maybe it's just my silly mind. The number 12 is somehow significant apart from it being the date. Maybe they'll release twelve products and services like refreshed iMac, refreshed Mac Mini, new iPad Mini, new iPhone 5, refreshed iTunes and some other things or I'm being too optimistic.
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Originally Posted by ghostface147
Or the shadow refers to the 5th generation and not actual name.
But that's wrong, too.
Originally Posted by herbapou
I like to think the 5 stands for 5 new products
I like that idea, though I don't buy it. Talk about your runaround, eh?
iPhone, iPod touch, iPod nano, iPod shuffle… what else? They COULD do it, we just have to think of a 5th product.
…if Apple was using "generation" to name phones they would have called the 4s the 5s…
But that wouldn't have made sense, either. They don't always use generation names, they've used three naming conventions in the past: generation, telephony, and speed.
Originally Posted by quinney
You frequently edit people's posts when you quote them.
But not the posts themselves. That would be disingenuous.
Disregard the graphic. It’s the iPhone 9.
It is the 9th distinct hardware design; not just colors and GB but unique construction/parts for 8 prior models:
iPhone
iPhone 3G
iPhone 3GS
iPhone 4
iPhone 4 CDMA with new antenna design and mute switch position
iPhone 4 white with redesigned camera ring
iPhone 4 white CDMA with redesigned camera ring AND new antenna design/mute switch
iPhone 4s
iPhone 9
... Actually, now that we’ve all known for ages that it would just be “iPhone” from now on, like the iPad, iMac, MacBook Pro etc.... they HAD to give it a number: it’s the only thing they could surprise us with after all these leaks! I for one am indeed surprised. In a boring kind of way.
Samsung announces Galaxy SIV to be released on october 21st Ready the copy machines!
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Originally Posted by herbapou
I like to think the 5 stands for 5 new products
But of course it will be call iphone 5, if Apple was using "generation" to name phones they would have called the 4s the 5s...
No matter what Spock claims, 5 follows 4. Besides the naming of the iPhone or any other Apple device is is NOT a question of logic - when will people realize this?
I think everyone needs to get past whether some thought it would be the iPhone 6 or 6th gen iPhone or iPhone 5 or New iPhone or whatever. It could have gone any way. We all had reasons to see it any of those. We could all have been wrong if Apple had decided differently.
Hell, it would be a hoot of the 5 is just their way of gaming us all and TS ends up being right
Oh well. I had been thinking it was 50/50 for either "the new iPhone" or "iPhone 5." (And 0 chance of being called "iPhone 6.")
I was 1/3 right. Or something like that.
Originally Posted by Tulkas
Hell, it would be a hoot of the 5 is just their way of gaming us all and TS ends up being right
I now subscribe to the "5 products being released" theory.
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Originally Posted by Tulkas
I think everyone needs to get past whether some thought it would be the iPhone 6 or 6th gen iPhone or iPhone 5 or New iPhone or whatever. It could have gone any way. We all had reasons to see it any of those. We could all have been wrong if Apple had decided differently
Yes. Only the people TS arrogantly and belligerently dismissed as being WRONG can jibe back. C'mon everybody.
5...hmmm.. .available in 5 different models? on 5 different networks? works with iOS 5?
5 classes of iOS devices? iPhone, iPod, iPad, AppleTV, and some altogether new device (as a restricted user interface on an iMac)?
Clearly it is the 5th generation iPhone - and iPhone 5 works as well as anything else - despite the OS being at version 6.
IBM did change what was developed at AIX 5.4 to AIX 6 to coincide with the release of POWER6, so not unprecedented to have the name of one product drive another, of course in that case they did not skip an entire whole number. Of course they also used names like p650 as a bridge from the old RS6000 to then new pSeries branding - and the p5xx for POWER5 which made it awkward when POWER6 came out since p6xx was already used - so POWER6 marketing names were kept at p5xx or actually POWER6 5xx - leaving p7xx for current POWER7 system. Its anyone guess if they will use POWER8 8xx when POWER8 systems come out. IBM is pretty good at shuffling things up right about the time you get the old way all figured out.
If Apple had not called the current iPad "the New iPad" I would be more certain that iPhone 5 would be the most likely used name at least for marketing purposes - even if the official product name is just iPhone. But I would not be surprised in the least if the marketing was all "the New iPhone" while the official name is iPhone and the technical manuals etc refer to it as iPhone (5th Generation) along the lines of iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2011) and MacBook Pro (Retina). I suppose in the end it may come down to how much each group of product developers has to say about the name of the product they develop. For as much as Apple eschews focus groups etc, in the end someone or some group has to actually make a decision and since we are not privy to the process used for any given product the best we can do is speculate.
Not necessarily. The number 5 could be a reference to the 5th Gen iPod Touch.
"iPhone 5" hahahaha I laugh in your face! You know who you are
Originally Posted by lilgto64
Clearly it is the 5th generation iPhone…
6th. Generation doesn't change even if the name does.
That's it. They're going to call it 'iPhone 12' and release it on Oct 5. /s
It doesn't say any such thing. Apple doesn't generally use processor specs in their high level advertising messages. They didn't mind calling the previous versions the iPhone 4/4S even though they had A5 processors, for example.
Yes, but there's a difference between what you're suggesting and being vehemently opposed to something and attacking others for stating a belief that differs from yours.
Frankly, I always took the position that it didn't really matter and wasn't worth worrying about. I did, however, get offended by TS outright attacks on people who thought it might be the iPhone 5. It's a little late for him to say "it doesn't matter, so let's get past it".
Similarly, his vehement attacks on the concept of an iPad Mini fall into the same pattern. He can not simply say "let's get past it" if the iPad Mini is shipped - at least not if he has even a shred of integrity.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
I'm not inserting anything about the name. I change it to the right generation. I also don't edit their posts.
But it isn't. Only internally is it anything "5". And then the iPhone 4 was internally 3.
I was insistent about "iPhone 6" until this year's iPad came out, and for that I apologize, but I don't see a reason to apologize for backing "6th iPhone" thereafter.
If it is called iPhone 5, then even Apple is wrong. Sorry, but that is simply pandering to the lowest common denominator and ruins the intelligent naming conventions iPhone carried in the past. Apple may name it iPhone 5 to avoid confusing idiots who don't understand the product line or its history, but there is no reason to call the 6th generation, 4th form factor iPhone an iPhone 5.
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Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton
Not necessarily. The number 5 could be a reference to the 5th Gen iPod Touch.
So long as we are done with people saying the iPhone 4S was "iPhone For Steve" I am fine.
Except I guess we might get people claiming the 5 is 'leetspeak for S and again means Steve....then I might need alcohol.
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Originally Posted by RichL
I guess Tallest Skill is eating some humble pie about now.
He will never admit it! He used to have it in his signature adamantly saying it will NOT be called the iPhone 5!!!
So humble pie it will be but he will neve admit he was wrong......
But he might ban us if we disagree with him......
Hi Folks, everyone always trying to guess, because this is all it is a guess - what Apple will do next.
Let's wait and see what Apple offers on September 12th. Personally, I will wait, let all the beta testers complain about bugs with the Iphone 5 and pick one up around October.
Personally, I wish (feel free and blow me away if you think I'm a few fries short of a happy meal), but wouldn't it be nice if one could remove this sim card from the Iphone 5 (new Iphone?) and insert it in the Mini Ipad and just like that one has the proverbial phabplet.
Such an option will probably increase sales of both the Iphone and mini-Ipad and quite frankly put the Galaxy Note to sleep.
NOT looking forward to the headphone jack being re-positioned to the bottom of the device......
What's in a name? And who cares really?
My iPhone 4s runs iOS 5, and when I update it, it'll run iOS 6. As will my iPhone 5, it appears. I don't care about the name, I can't wait to see the FEATURES!
I think maybe it's just my silly mind. The number 12 is somehow significant apart from it being the date. Maybe they'll release twelve products and services like refreshed iMac, refreshed Mac Mini, new iPad Mini, new iPhone 5, refreshed iTunes and some other things or I'm being too optimistic.