Well we have finally reached the limit of the smart people owning iPhones. We are now getting into the limited intelligence people. When they all buy iPhones we will start to get into the really stupid people owning iPhones. Wonder what the really stupid people will come up with. Black picture. Apple will release a document. Please remove your ringer off the camera lens to take a picture. And then please don't use a nail coated with boogers on the touch screen.
We’ve just learned that the iPhone 5 camera may be faulty, showing a purple haze (yep, I said it) in certain lighting conditions. If you take a picture with the iPhone 5, and there’s a bright light that’s outside of the frame, you’ll see a purple tint come across the image.
This is possibly due to the Sapphire glass used in the camera’s lens.
As completely false and nuttyas this theory is, I think you've hit on the exact reason why we didn't hear about this lens flare problem with previous iPhones even though all the evidence seems to indicate that they all acted in exactly the same way. Conspiracy theories often get started by way of exactly these sorts of coincidental juxtapositions.
You have an iPhone camera with only one feature that's really different from previous versions, it has a "sapphire" scratch cover on the lens (presumably to prevent scratches). Everyone knows that sapphires (in nature) are blue/purple/red. Add those two together and someone inevitably makes the unwarranted, unproven and unlikely speculation that these two things are related (techCrunch above). Instantly, a "conspiracy" is born (even though all the facts are against it).
The trouble is for this to be actually true, Apple would have to have selected a type of artificial sapphire that has a colour to it (instead of all the available crystal clear ones), lie to us about having done that, and correct the problem in software (except for the edge cases like looking into the sun which they presumably can't do anything about.)
Since the 4 and the 4S both had this problem, (albeit to a slightly lesser degree), it simply can't be anything to do with the sapphire lens cover which is unique to the iPhone 5.
No, they're saying the lens of your 5 is shittier than that of the 4S, so watch where you point it.
well - i noticed it on mine too - ip5 suffers more so than ip4 - maybe it takes better pics in other scenarios though - truthfully both take great pics in normal light
I have not had an opportunity to test this for myself until now. I just took this image a few minutes ago which according to all reports should have shown purple but it does not. This is totally un-retouched so don't even suggest I did something. It is taken with the default settings on iPhone 5.
Yeah, I'm not sure exactly what the conditions have to be to get the really bad flare. I only got to test it for a short time and I had a hard time *making it* do it in any situation. But when the conditions were right, it tends to do it repeatedly.
I found that it did it most consistently when the light source is completely out of the image. And if the cause is TFD, as I assume, it will be most prevalent (blooming) when the light is mostly coherent, but slightly dispersed (say by a light atmospheric haze.)
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Originally Posted by mstone
I have not had an opportunity to test this for myself until now. I just took this image a few minutes ago which according to all reports should have shown purple but it does not. This is totally un-retouched so don't even suggest I did something. It is taken with the default settings on iPhone 5.
Yeah, I'm not sure exactly what the conditions have to be to get the really bad flare. I only got to test it for a short time and I had a hard time *making it* do it in any situation. But when the conditions were right, it tends to do it repeatedly.
I found that it did it most consistently when the light source is completely out of the image. And if the cause is TFD, as I assume, it will be most prevalent (blooming) when the light is mostly coherent, but slightly dispersed (say by a light atmospheric haze.)
Ok so I took another shot with the sun just out of frame still no purple. Maybe there are some iPhone 5 cameras that are defective.
Wait... are you saying my iPhone 5 isn't a professional DSLR with a 30,000 dollar lens? I want my money back!
Or, I suppose, I could take fewer pictures of the sun.
Interesting article, though.
Money back???
JJ Abrams shot Star Trek with $30K Panavision lenses with stagehands off camera intentionally throwing extra lights on the lens to get it to flare ridiculously.
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Originally Posted by DeanSolecki
Wait... are you saying my iPhone 5 isn't a professional DSLR with a 30,000 dollar lens? I want my money back!
Or, I suppose, I could take fewer pictures of the sun.
Interesting article, though.
No, they're saying the lens of your 5 is shittier than that of the 4S, so watch where you point it.
70 posts in 7 days.
What a busy little troll.
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Originally Posted by 845032
Apple should not use their arrogant tactic, “You’re taking pictures wrong.”
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Well we have finally reached the limit of the smart people owning iPhones. We are now getting into the limited intelligence people. When they all buy iPhones we will start to get into the really stupid people owning iPhones. Wonder what the really stupid people will come up with. Black picture. Apple will release a document. Please remove your ringer off the camera lens to take a picture. And then please don't use a nail coated with boogers on the touch screen.
Originally Posted by DESuserIGN
3866 posts and nothing intelligent to say.
What a surprise!
Either rebut the argument without mentioning post count or don't bother posting at all.
I can't believe this even has to be said.
Originally Posted by tylerk36
And then please don't use a nail coated with boogers on the touch screen.
That might conduct, though, unlike a plain nail.
Originally Posted by tylerk36
And then please don't use a nail coated with boogers on the touch screen.
That might conduct, though, unlike a plain nail.
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Originally Posted by 845032
... 'Sapphire glass' is problem.
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We’ve just learned that the iPhone 5 camera may be faulty, showing a purple haze (yep, I said it) in certain lighting conditions. If you take a picture with the iPhone 5, and there’s a bright light that’s outside of the frame, you’ll see a purple tint come across the image.
This is possibly due to the Sapphire glass used in the camera’s lens.
http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/26/the-iphone-5s-camera-is-faulty-shows-a-purple-haze/
As completely false and nutty as this theory is, I think you've hit on the exact reason why we didn't hear about this lens flare problem with previous iPhones even though all the evidence seems to indicate that they all acted in exactly the same way. Conspiracy theories often get started by way of exactly these sorts of coincidental juxtapositions.
You have an iPhone camera with only one feature that's really different from previous versions, it has a "sapphire" scratch cover on the lens (presumably to prevent scratches). Everyone knows that sapphires (in nature) are blue/purple/red. Add those two together and someone inevitably makes the unwarranted, unproven and unlikely speculation that these two things are related (techCrunch above). Instantly, a "conspiracy" is born (even though all the facts are against it).
The trouble is for this to be actually true, Apple would have to have selected a type of artificial sapphire that has a colour to it (instead of all the available crystal clear ones), lie to us about having done that, and correct the problem in software (except for the edge cases like looking into the sun which they presumably can't do anything about.)
Since the 4 and the 4S both had this problem, (albeit to a slightly lesser degree), it simply can't be anything to do with the sapphire lens cover which is unique to the iPhone 5.
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Originally Posted by DESuserIGN
3866 posts and nothing intelligent to say.
What a surprise!
Have you read a camera manual?
Have you used the camera on an iPhone 5?
It is easy to reproduce "purple haze" with it or other camera's.
It is just as easy to make it disappear by moving the camera, as manuals suggest.
Now everyone is a camera lens expert, just like two years ago when everyone became antenna experts.
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Originally Posted by Cash907
No, they're saying the lens of your 5 is shittier than that of the 4S, so watch where you point it.
well - i noticed it on mine too - ip5 suffers more so than ip4 - maybe it takes better pics in other scenarios though - truthfully both take great pics in normal light
People who complain about "purple haze" are not Apple fans.
They should return the merchandize and give it to those who wont complain.
Sweep this under the rug so my stock price can go up.
End of story.
P.S. The new camera will make you look fat though.
Oh brother. I'm always amazed at the things you think you need to pipe in on.
It this you rebutting an argument?
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Run away, Samsung shill. Run long. Run far.
He has no argument to rebut.
He's just claiming BS because he's too lazy to read about CA (or he's to ignorant to understand it.)
If you read my OP (which he partially references) you can see he's too thick to understand it.
I'll make it easy, "Purple Haze" is NOT Chromatic Aberration!
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Either rebut the argument without mentioning post count or don't bother posting at all.
I can't believe this even has to be said.
That might conduct, though, unlike a plain nail.
I'm unfamiliar with the poster, but here's the most eloquent post I've seen so far:
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Originally Posted by Cash907
No, they're saying the lens of your 5 is shittier than that of the 4S, so watch where you point it.
This is illustrates a problem.
It may not be a huge problem. It may not be a problem for people who don't care about quality imaging.
But it is a degradation in quality and a step backward for the iPhone camera.
People who do not understand this (or exaggerate it) clearly have some agenda.
Originally Posted by DESuserIGN
Oh brother. I'm always amazed at the things you think you need to pipe in on.
It this you rebutting an argument?
So, to clarify, you're defending the user who is a shill paid by Samsung to lie about Apple on Apple forums?
Defending. Just to clarify.
Confirmed for purple flare. Been doing some testing myself as you can see
Originally Posted by hill60
Have you read a camera manual?
Yes, I have (and many books.) In fact I've taken graduate level photography classes.
Originally Posted by hill60
Have you used the camera on an iPhone 5?
Yes, I have (as you would know, if you read an earlier post above! [the one that talks about CA and "purple haze!"])
Originally Posted by hill60
It is easy to reproduce "purple haze" with it or other camera's.
Again, you are wrong. I have never seen "purple haze" of this nature in any photograph I have ever taken with cameras I own.
In fact my most recent posts shows a post by Cash 907 that shows how wrong you are!
Originally Posted by hill60
It is just as easy to make it disappear by moving the camera, as manuals suggest.
It certainly is true that if one takes a different picture, the image produced will be different.
If one has an assistant to shield the sun, or a flare hood, a picture of the same scene will be different too.
Also, if one uses a different camera (like say an iP4s) the image will also be different.
And most importantly, it will be better WRT "purple haze (that's the key takeaway concept for you.)
Originally Posted by hill60
Now everyone is a camera lens expert, just like two years ago when everyone became antenna experts.
That's a mildly provocative observation. Thanks for sharing!
Do you have any documentation to support this idea?
So just to be clear,
iPhone 4S
6th-gen iPhone
Looks like an improvement to me.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
So, to clarify, you're defending the user who is a shill paid by Samsung to lie about Apple on Apple forums?
Defending. Just to clarify.
I was not aware that you had any proof that 845032 is a shill paid by Samsung.
I missed that when you posted your evidence of that.
But it wouldn't surprise me if that was true, I did, after all, say he was a troll.
So, just to clarify, why didn't you tell me to rebut 845032's argument, but you did tell me for hill60's?
(hill60's "argument" was about as cogent as 845032's)
So, just to clarify, why didn't you tell hill60 to rebut my argument instead of just calling me a liar? Just to clarify, why is that? Just to clarify?
I have not had an opportunity to test this for myself until now. I just took this image a few minutes ago which according to all reports should have shown purple but it does not. This is totally un-retouched so don't even suggest I did something. It is taken with the default settings on iPhone 5.
Now *that's* funny!
(Holy Cow.! it's even bleeding over onto the iP4)
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Originally Posted by MaroonMushroom
Confirmed for purple flare. Been doing some testing myself as you can see
Yeah, I'm not sure exactly what the conditions have to be to get the really bad flare. I only got to test it for a short time and I had a hard time *making it* do it in any situation. But when the conditions were right, it tends to do it repeatedly.
I found that it did it most consistently when the light source is completely out of the image. And if the cause is TFD, as I assume, it will be most prevalent (blooming) when the light is mostly coherent, but slightly dispersed (say by a light atmospheric haze.)
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Originally Posted by mstone
I have not had an opportunity to test this for myself until now. I just took this image a few minutes ago which according to all reports should have shown purple but it does not. This is totally un-retouched so don't even suggest I did something. It is taken with the default settings on iPhone 5.
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Originally Posted by DESuserIGN
Yeah, I'm not sure exactly what the conditions have to be to get the really bad flare. I only got to test it for a short time and I had a hard time *making it* do it in any situation. But when the conditions were right, it tends to do it repeatedly.
I found that it did it most consistently when the light source is completely out of the image. And if the cause is TFD, as I assume, it will be most prevalent (blooming) when the light is mostly coherent, but slightly dispersed (say by a light atmospheric haze.)
Ok so I took another shot with the sun just out of frame still no purple. Maybe there are some iPhone 5 cameras that are defective.
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Originally Posted by DeanSolecki
Wait... are you saying my iPhone 5 isn't a professional DSLR with a 30,000 dollar lens? I want my money back!
Or, I suppose, I could take fewer pictures of the sun.
Interesting article, though.
Money back???
JJ Abrams shot Star Trek with $30K Panavision lenses with stagehands off camera intentionally throwing extra lights on the lens to get it to flare ridiculously.