I know people who play various games with this 3000 processor. with no problems at all.
Playing games and being satisfied with performance is highly variable and personal. The reality is for most people, today's Intel integrated GPUs are a no go for gaming and other demanding uses of the GPU. Even today's best Intel offering can't keep up with last years AMD integrated GPU.
One of the big reasons I'm on hold for Haswell is that the GPU has the potential to be an effective replacement for the discrete GPU. For me that isn't even an issue of gaming as it isn't a big deal for me. OpenGL support is important for many technical apps as is OpenCL support.
When I was first playing the Diablo III demo and it wasn't running well, I thought "It's obviously because of the mini." Later on, I would find out how many problems there were with Diablo III including hackers and the game just not quite being what Diablo I and II were.
So again, we're only talking about a game through MAME, which is Gauntlet Dark Legacy.
Haswell's graphics should be fine for me though I am upgrading to a quad core machine over a dual core.
RAM could happen anytime. It is almost a certainty as the specs for higher speed RAM arrays require a soldered in solution. On the other hand flash may never be soldered in due to its know wear characteristics.
RAM could happen anytime. It is almost a certainty as the specs for higher speed RAM arrays require a soldered in solution. On the other hand flash may never be soldered in due to its know wear characteristics.
So a regular SSD and soldered RAM? Eh all right. I just hope they eventually move to 8 GB standard. 4 is low enough for 10.8 let alone the eventual 10.9
By "matches", I'm assuming goes along with the appearance. I would say the only option there is Apple's own Thunderbolt Display. I don't expect there to be a significant market for 3rd-party Mini-specific displays. Mac Mini buyers seem to fall into several categories:
1) Replacing a computer and they already have a monitor.
2) Incorporating into a home theater, so using a TV as a display.
3) Very cost-sensitive and intend to skimp on the diplay.
4) Using as a low-cost server, either without any display, or where the display itself doesn't matter.
A Mac Mini and a Thuderbolt Display costs about the same as an iMac; with the benefit that the computer can be replaced (upgraded) independently of the display. However, recent iMacs have had the capability to be used as a display. I'm assuming the just-announced (late 2012) models can as well. If that is a concern, you can buy an iMac now, and then buy a Mini (or a PC with Thunderbolt/DisplayPort) when it's time to upgrade.
I didn't say regular just that it won't be soldered in, in all likely hood. Beyond that flash could be a thing of the past fairly quickly.
This I would agree with. For what RAM costs Apple could easily upgrade thier machines to 8GB base.
It is very hard for compact computer like the MM to have all this incorporated into this small storage space it has.I doubt SSD will be soldiered into this.
There are many options for next generation non volatile storage. Believe it or not I'm not the type of wizard that can predict the future. What you can do is look at what HP, IBM, Intel and others are doing in the way of research. HP for example seems to really want to bring its technology to market.
If one or more of these new technologies can solve the durability problems with flash we might see soldered in secondary store. I just don't see as huge of a pressing need as there is with RAM.
What lies this is the truth Apple has no one NEW PRODUCT yet! They are living off there reputation now.Improving their models is not new products to me or anyone who has the intelligence to see this.
What lies this is the truth Apple has no one NEW PRODUCT yet! They are living off there reputation now.Improving their models is not new products to me or anyone who has the intelligence to see this.
This is like saying in the middle of the year "Toyota has no one NEW PRODUCT yet!" a few months before the new models are out.
In this case, it's even more idiotic given the iPad Mini came out only 6 months ago which is a new product line (7" tablet), the iPad 3 years ago (redefined tablets), the MBA 5 years ago (new UltraBook Category), the iPhone 6 years ago (redefines smartphones), and arguably the 1 year old 2012 MBPr is a new product sub-category like the MBA the UHR or retina laptop (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ultra+high+res+laptops).
The mini is a 8 year old product line and the iMac a 15 year old one but jesus, there's not a whole lot of variables for desktops just like with sedans. All the changes have been to create new categories of cars (minivans, SUVs, electric, etc) which is what apple has been doing (tablets, ultrabooks, smartphones). Even there the iMac just got a complete body refresh and the mini went unibody in 2010 and the Pro is getting a revamp this year.
Yeah, only a super genius thinks that Apple is simply living off there (sic) reputation now.
What lies this is the truth Apple has no one NEW PRODUCT yet! They are living off there reputation now.Improving their models is not new products to me or anyone who has the intelligence to see this.
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Really old games, sure.
I know people who play various games with this 3000 processor. with no problems at all.
Playing games and being satisfied with performance is highly variable and personal. The reality is for most people, today's Intel integrated GPUs are a no go for gaming and other demanding uses of the GPU. Even today's best Intel offering can't keep up with last years AMD integrated GPU.
One of the big reasons I'm on hold for Haswell is that the GPU has the potential to be an effective replacement for the discrete GPU. For me that isn't even an issue of gaming as it isn't a big deal for me. OpenGL support is important for many technical apps as is OpenCL support.
So again, we're only talking about a game through MAME, which is Gauntlet Dark Legacy.
Haswell's graphics should be fine for me though I am upgrading to a quad core machine over a dual core.
What ever suits your fancy.
The way apple is going maybe when hell freezes over this might happen.
So a regular SSD and soldered RAM? Eh all right. I just hope they eventually move to 8 GB standard. 4 is low enough for 10.8 let alone the eventual 10.9
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Originally Posted by mbmcavoy
By "matches", I'm assuming goes along with the appearance. I would say the only option there is Apple's own Thunderbolt Display. I don't expect there to be a significant market for 3rd-party Mini-specific displays. Mac Mini buyers seem to fall into several categories:
1) Replacing a computer and they already have a monitor.
2) Incorporating into a home theater, so using a TV as a display.
3) Very cost-sensitive and intend to skimp on the diplay.
4) Using as a low-cost server, either without any display, or where the display itself doesn't matter.
A Mac Mini and a Thuderbolt Display costs about the same as an iMac; with the benefit that the computer can be replaced (upgraded) independently of the display. However, recent iMacs have had the capability to be used as a display. I'm assuming the just-announced (late 2012) models can as well. If that is a concern, you can buy an iMac now, and then buy a Mini (or a PC with Thunderbolt/DisplayPort) when it's time to upgrade.
I use a LG TM2792S-SZ
....or also the AOC I2757FH
And what would be in its place?
Originally Posted by Winter
And what would be in its place?
HTML5.
Perhaps he means MRAM?
It is very hard for compact computer like the MM to have all this incorporated into this small storage space it has.I doubt SSD will be soldiered into this.
There are many options for next generation non volatile storage. Believe it or not I'm not the type of wizard that can predict the future. What you can do is look at what HP, IBM, Intel and others are doing in the way of research. HP for example seems to really want to bring its technology to market.
If one or more of these new technologies can solve the durability problems with flash we might see soldered in secondary store. I just don't see as huge of a pressing need as there is with RAM.
You mentioned companies that are trying to compete with Apple and I hope they surpass Apple eventually.Apple has nothing really new at all.
Originally Posted by marvfox
Apple has nothing really new at all.
You want to take these lies somewhere that people care about them, please?
What lies this is the truth Apple has no one NEW PRODUCT yet! They are living off there reputation now.Improving their models is not new products to me or anyone who has the intelligence to see this.
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Originally Posted by marvfox
What lies this is the truth Apple has no one NEW PRODUCT yet! They are living off there reputation now.Improving their models is not new products to me or anyone who has the intelligence to see this.
This is like saying in the middle of the year "Toyota has no one NEW PRODUCT yet!" a few months before the new models are out.
In this case, it's even more idiotic given the iPad Mini came out only 6 months ago which is a new product line (7" tablet), the iPad 3 years ago (redefined tablets), the MBA 5 years ago (new UltraBook Category), the iPhone 6 years ago (redefines smartphones), and arguably the 1 year old 2012 MBPr is a new product sub-category like the MBA the UHR or retina laptop (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ultra+high+res+laptops).
The mini is a 8 year old product line and the iMac a 15 year old one but jesus, there's not a whole lot of variables for desktops just like with sedans. All the changes have been to create new categories of cars (minivans, SUVs, electric, etc) which is what apple has been doing (tablets, ultrabooks, smartphones). Even there the iMac just got a complete body refresh and the mini went unibody in 2010 and the Pro is getting a revamp this year.
Yeah, only a super genius thinks that Apple is simply living off there (sic) reputation now.
Originally Posted by marvfox
What lies this is the truth Apple has no one NEW PRODUCT yet! They are living off there reputation now.Improving their models is not new products to me or anyone who has the intelligence to see this.
Shut up and go away.