Until these devices teleport you from one end of the universe to another in a matter of moments, people will whine. It's a shame but that's the way it is.
Ha, ha. Then, like Cable TV with 200 channels, there will STILL be noplace to go and not enough time to go there.
The new Nexus 10 beat the iPad in all these categories-- Fast CPU, highest resolution, Modern looking OS, More RAM, and more overral features.
I think I'd rather stick a screwdriver in my eyesocker than subject myself to the abysmal tablet app situation on such a resolution. Its though enough using blown up cell apps on the Nexus 7, cant imagine how horrible it will be on that tablet, using apps optimized for a mere fraction of that resolution. The rest of that shit doesn't matter. Not a single person on the planet is gonna base their tablet busying decision on RAM or CPU. As if the 4th iPad is slow or something- it will probably be several months before anything even takes advantage of its power.
I think the iPad is moving into the incremental upgrade phase of products. People have been trained to expect huge changes between models and this is simply unrealistic. I heard people completely whine about how they got their new iPad in March and now it's outdated. Well guess what? We're talking about technology. Apple's line of computers have for years had incremental updates periodically throughout the year, with new processors, new ports, etc., and a big change only occurring every few years. It simply looks like this is what's happening with the iPad now.
The question no one seems to be asking is 'does this now mean the iPhone and iPad will now have it's annual refresh cycle in Q4, just in time for US thanks giving/xmas'. Now the iPad has moved, this leaves a big hole in the Q2 release calendar, unless Apple have a new TV product or other to fill that slot next year...
I'm thinking Apple is just going to start releasing new products when they can. They had the A6 and new Lightning port, so why not release a new iPad now?
I think as soon as they sell enough devices with the newer components (driving costs down), then they'll move the iPad mini to a 'Retina' display and A6X and sell the current model for $50 less. I'm guessing around March or April.
I'm thinking Apple is just going to start releasing new products when they can. They had the A6 and new Lightning port, so why not release a new iPad now?
I think as soon as they sell enough devices with the newer components (driving costs down), then they'll move the iPad mini to a 'Retina' display and A6X and sell the current model for $50 less. I'm guessing around March or April.
Making an iPad min Retina is not as simple as sticking in a retina display and faster processor. There's the issue of putting in a batter slim and powerful enough to get that 10-hour batter life. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think you'll see that until a couple years. Next year I can see Apple putting in the A6 processor, 1GB of RAM and the same 8-megapixel camera as the iPhone 5. But no more.
I hope Nexus is great. Extreme competition means extreme engineering and innovation. Which means we get significantly better products year after year. Not that Apple is standing still....
Regarding the Nexus and Surface, I really like the youtube videos that will undoubtedly pop up soon comparing the various tablets. I saw one featuring the Surface and even though the reviewer was a MS enthusiast, he couldn't contain his disappointment with the Surface and he took a video to show why. The launch times for Apps was incredibly slow. The interface with their Mail app was befuddling. The vaunted MS Office app wouldn't save his work and he found himself stuck in an endless loop of password prompts. The GUI in Office was difficult to use as the targets for finger presses were incredibly small. It doesn't appear Microsoft has learned how to optimize Office for tablets yet.
The videos show how smooth (or not) the interface is. It is then that you can see if the interface is responsive and silky smooth or not. After seeing that Surface video, my questions were answered very quickly. Apple has nothing to worry about.
I tend to like the parts of Apple's keynotes where direct comparisons are made. When Phil showed Android apps right next to iOS apps, who could argue against the superiority of the iOS version?
Sometimes reading a review just doesn't get at all the thousands of little details that make for a great experience on a tablet. One thing that pleases me most is that Apple focused heavily on making sure that retina display is responsive and babybutt smooth. The computer just disappears from under your fingers and gets out of the way.
Question about the new connector: Anyone try syncing up to iTunes? Is it noticeably faster? Why is this important detail often left out?
Until these devices teleport you from one end of the universe to another in a matter of moments, people will whine. It's a shame but that's the way it is.
If it still won't be able to handle multiple universes, there is yet a lot of room for our dear trolls to whine.
The new Nexus 10 beat the iPad in all these categories-- Fast CPU, highest resolution, Modern looking OS, More RAM, and more overral features.
The trolls just don't stop.....
Fastest CPU? On paper - maybe. In real life, the iPad blows the Nexus away.
Highest resolution? Not even close.
Modern looking OS? By whose standards? And if Android is so much more modern than iOS, why are all the people making Android devices falling all over themselves to copy iOS?
More RAM? Perhaps (I haven't checked the specs). Or is it like the SIII where some versions have different amounts of RAM than others - causing confusion? In the end, though, what matters is what you can do with it and the iPad leads the pack. Nothing else comes close in performance.
Fastest CPU? On paper - maybe. In real life, the iPad blows the Nexus away.
Highest resolution? Not even close.
Jeesh...
Arguing over which tablet has the fastest processor and best display, and making believe it's factual, when neither are in users hands yet and one (the Nexus10) not even available for detailed review for another few days. Someone's not sharing their time machine with the rest of us.
If I had purchased an iPad3 or the new iPad as they called it and to see it being called the old iPad within 6 months time would have been a little disappointing. Hope this is a one of thing so that they can align future releases to the holiday season in US and other places.
Everything purchased six months ago is now six months old…
Until these devices teleport you from one end of the universe to another in a matter of moments, people will whine. It's a shame but that's the way it is.
Moments? Plural? No way, that's way too long, they'll whine for sure about that.
Jeesh...
Arguing over which tablet has the fastest processor and best display, and making believe it's factual, when neither are in users hands yet and one (the Nexus10) not even available for detailed review for another few days. Someone's not sharing their time machine with the rest of us.
The Mini is in people's hands. Read the reviews.
The specs of the Nexus 10 are available - and they don't come close to the claims made by the troll I was responding to.
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If it has a better spell-checker then you should snap one up...
Ha, ha. Then, like Cable TV with 200 channels, there will STILL be noplace to go and not enough time to go there.
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Originally Posted by therealestmc
The new Nexus 10 beat the iPad in all these categories-- Fast CPU, highest resolution, Modern looking OS, More RAM, and more overral features.
I think I'd rather stick a screwdriver in my eyesocker than subject myself to the abysmal tablet app situation on such a resolution. Its though enough using blown up cell apps on the Nexus 7, cant imagine how horrible it will be on that tablet, using apps optimized for a mere fraction of that resolution. The rest of that shit doesn't matter. Not a single person on the planet is gonna base their tablet busying decision on RAM or CPU. As if the 4th iPad is slow or something- it will probably be several months before anything even takes advantage of its power.
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Originally Posted by GuyR
The question no one seems to be asking is 'does this now mean the iPhone and iPad will now have it's annual refresh cycle in Q4, just in time for US thanks giving/xmas'. Now the iPad has moved, this leaves a big hole in the Q2 release calendar, unless Apple have a new TV product or other to fill that slot next year...
I'm thinking Apple is just going to start releasing new products when they can. They had the A6 and new Lightning port, so why not release a new iPad now?
I think as soon as they sell enough devices with the newer components (driving costs down), then they'll move the iPad mini to a 'Retina' display and A6X and sell the current model for $50 less. I'm guessing around March or April.
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Originally Posted by mjtomlin
I'm thinking Apple is just going to start releasing new products when they can. They had the A6 and new Lightning port, so why not release a new iPad now?
I think as soon as they sell enough devices with the newer components (driving costs down), then they'll move the iPad mini to a 'Retina' display and A6X and sell the current model for $50 less. I'm guessing around March or April.
Making an iPad min Retina is not as simple as sticking in a retina display and faster processor. There's the issue of putting in a batter slim and powerful enough to get that 10-hour batter life. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think you'll see that until a couple years. Next year I can see Apple putting in the A6 processor, 1GB of RAM and the same 8-megapixel camera as the iPhone 5. But no more.
I hope Nexus is great. Extreme competition means extreme engineering and innovation. Which means we get significantly better products year after year. Not that Apple is standing still....
Regarding the Nexus and Surface, I really like the youtube videos that will undoubtedly pop up soon comparing the various tablets. I saw one featuring the Surface and even though the reviewer was a MS enthusiast, he couldn't contain his disappointment with the Surface and he took a video to show why. The launch times for Apps was incredibly slow. The interface with their Mail app was befuddling. The vaunted MS Office app wouldn't save his work and he found himself stuck in an endless loop of password prompts. The GUI in Office was difficult to use as the targets for finger presses were incredibly small. It doesn't appear Microsoft has learned how to optimize Office for tablets yet.
The videos show how smooth (or not) the interface is. It is then that you can see if the interface is responsive and silky smooth or not. After seeing that Surface video, my questions were answered very quickly. Apple has nothing to worry about.
I tend to like the parts of Apple's keynotes where direct comparisons are made. When Phil showed Android apps right next to iOS apps, who could argue against the superiority of the iOS version?
Sometimes reading a review just doesn't get at all the thousands of little details that make for a great experience on a tablet. One thing that pleases me most is that Apple focused heavily on making sure that retina display is responsive and babybutt smooth. The computer just disappears from under your fingers and gets out of the way.
Question about the new connector: Anyone try syncing up to iTunes? Is it noticeably faster? Why is this important detail often left out?
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Originally Posted by bugsnw
Question about the new connector: Anyone try syncing up to iTunes? Is it noticeably faster? Why is this important detail often left out?
I think it was faster 10 years ago, when Firewire did the syncing (with iPods of course).
Even though the new connector is Lightning, it still connects to your computer via USB 2.0, and USB 2.0 is pretty much crap.
I just sync via WIFI, as that's far more convenient than connecting any cables.
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Knowing samsung they went Pentile.
True RGB Real Stripe PLS.
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Originally Posted by Shameer Mulji
Until these devices teleport you from one end of the universe to another in a matter of moments, people will whine. It's a shame but that's the way it is.
If it still won't be able to handle multiple universes, there is yet a lot of room for our dear trolls to whine.
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I think it was faster 10 years ago, when Firewire did the syncing (with iPods of course).
Even though the new connector is Lightning, it still connects to your computer via USB 2.0, and USB 2.0 is pretty much crap.
I just sync via WIFI, as that's far more convenient than connecting any cables.
I can't wait for USB 3.0 support. Hopefully it'll be in the iPhone 6/iPad 5!
how true, it's like, just buy what you can afford to buy and stop complaining about quality
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Giving the ol' folder a workout tonight…
So, have you got lots of pictures of Jony Ive then?
The trolls just don't stop.....
Fastest CPU? On paper - maybe. In real life, the iPad blows the Nexus away.
Highest resolution? Not even close.
Modern looking OS? By whose standards? And if Android is so much more modern than iOS, why are all the people making Android devices falling all over themselves to copy iOS?
More RAM? Perhaps (I haven't checked the specs). Or is it like the SIII where some versions have different amounts of RAM than others - causing confusion? In the end, though, what matters is what you can do with it and the iPad leads the pack. Nothing else comes close in performance.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
The trolls just don't stop.....
Fastest CPU? On paper - maybe. In real life, the iPad blows the Nexus away.
Highest resolution? Not even close.
Jeesh...
Arguing over which tablet has the fastest processor and best display, and making believe it's factual, when neither are in users hands yet and one (the Nexus10) not even available for detailed review for another few days. Someone's not sharing their time machine with the rest of us.
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Originally Posted by Nishanth
If I had purchased an iPad3 or the new iPad as they called it and to see it being called the old iPad within 6 months time would have been a little disappointing. Hope this is a one of thing so that they can align future releases to the holiday season in US and other places.
Everything purchased six months ago is now six months old…
Originally Posted by therealestmc
The new Nexus 10 beat the iPad in all these categories-- Fast CPU, highest resolution, Modern looking OS, More RAM, and more overral features.
Other than it not beating the iPad in any category, sure.
Originally Posted by stike vomit
So, have you got lots of pictures of Jony Ive then?
And Tim Cook, Phil Schiller, and Scott Forstall.
Originally Posted by Gatorguy
Arguing over which tablet has the fastest processor and best display, and making believe it's factual, when neither are in users hands yet…
Already have the iPad to judge the display…
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Originally Posted by Shameer Mulji
Until these devices teleport you from one end of the universe to another in a matter of moments, people will whine. It's a shame but that's the way it is.
Moments? Plural? No way, that's way too long, they'll whine for sure about that.
The Mini is in people's hands. Read the reviews.
The specs of the Nexus 10 are available - and they don't come close to the claims made by the troll I was responding to.