Come on.
OK here is something we can actually count - pixels.
Last time I checked:
2560 > 2048
1600 > 1536
It is really a simple math.
No, it's not. You're comparing the Nexus' fake resolution to Apple's real resolution. Their resolution figures are significantly overstated because of the way they calculate them. Try putting the iPad 4 next to a Nexus 10 if you want to compare screens. Oh, wait. you can't - the Nexus 10 is vapor.
No, it's not. You're comparing the Nexus' fake resolution to Apple's real resolution. Their resolution figures are significantly overstated because of the way they calculate them. Try putting the iPad 4 next to a Nexus 10 if you want to compare screens. Oh, wait. you can't - the Nexus 10 is vapor.
Ah, you finally get it despite your odd unsubstatiated claim that resolution on the Nexus10, which isn't shipping to consumers yet rather than vaporware, is overstated. Perhaps you could take a moment to explain how the calculation of reported resolution on the Nexus10 is flawed.
The thought crossed my mind, is Apple moving to a new annular "tick tock" product cycle with the iPad. March/April 2013 for the new iPad/iPad Mini anyone?
No, I believe the iPad has moved to the iPod (fall) schedule.
me thinks a 6 month schedule may be in the offing for the iPad. iPhone... no... just because of the massive rollouts for countries/carriers.
The iPad, however competes in a different space, and has now got two major markets to address that the phone doesn't have as much play/sway in
- Business
- Education
And therefore, I think there will be 'tocks' released after every major OS upgrade in parallel with the iPhone x+1 release. The Ticks will be major functional releases in the spring timeframe to support the Mar-July corporate buy periods.
Minimally, my guess is the iPad Mini will get an RD in this spring (and the current getting a price drop to $249 for an 'entry level' iPad), and the iPad2 will be retired (either an iPad 3 with Lightning, or another 'tick' will occur with the iPad, and the current retina iPad will drop... making all iPads Lightning.
Retina made the performance of iPad 3 be slightly less than iPad 2. I sold my iPad 3 to but the new one IMHO now the iPad 4 has the power to really drive the screen and that's why iPad 3 is discontinued. Basiclly the hardware is in balance. Plus a discontinued iPad 3 will be worth less than the iPad mini by march...
By the way in the future iPad 3 might only run iPad 2 and iPad mini quality games and not the iPad 4 high res games...
I'm so sick of the tech media's expectaions and judgement about new products based on specs tunnel vision. Who cares if its incremental or major? Where's the line drawn between them? This subjective nit picking is so boring. The new ipad is what it is. People will buy it and love it, incremental or not.
Yep. They give us the fastest tablet ever made with the best screen on a tablet and the most versatile port on a tablet…
And all people can do is whine.
Because they replaced the fastest tablet ever made with the best screen on a tablet long before they actually needed to and long before people expected.
Most early adopters of the iPad3 had their one for a touch over 6 months before their resale value was seriously affected with this minor update.
I always thought that Apple's old approach of introducing new products at MacWorld in early January was really, really dumb. Just after a surge of Christmas sales, and then you bring out new products just after Christmas. I would be mad as heck if I had just received a new Apple goodie for Christmas, only to have a newer version introduced two weeks later. Much better to bring out new products just *before* Christmas, as long as you can deliver to meet demand.
Because they replaced the fastest tablet ever made with the best screen on a tablet long before they actually needed to and long before people expected.
Most early adopters of the iPad3 had their one for a touch over 6 months before their resale value was seriously affected with this minor update.
So what? Do you expect that your product is going to remain the leader forever? Or even for any specific time? Did your iPad 3 suddenly become slower or lose features? If not, why do you feel that you got ripped off? You got exactly what you paid for and it's still exactly what you paid for.
As for "before they needed to", you can't have it both ways. Some people are whining that Apple delays too long in introducing new technologies and others complain that they introduce them too fast. What should they do? They felt that they could offer a significantly better product without changing the price and they did so. That's a positive for consumers.
Because they replaced the fastest tablet ever made with the best screen on a tablet long before they actually needed to and long before people expected.
Most early adopters of the iPad3 had their one for a touch over 6 months before their resale value was seriously affected with this minor update.
A. Your resale value ought not be Apple's concern.
B. If Apple goes a year between updates, certain people claim it's, "too long between updates, competitors are updating much more frequently." (Ignoring the fact that most of the "competitors" updates are much less than an "incremental refresh".) If they update every 6 months, we see equally ridiculous complaints like yours. One might infer that 9 months would be the perfect medium, but then people would probably complain about something else, like, "Apple's updates always come out in a different season." So, timing updates to attempt to "please customers" is a fools game. Releasing updates when they are ready, which is Apple's game across their product lines, is the only strategy that makes sense, for Apple and its customers.
The greater question is how developers will handle creating apps that specifically take advantage of the A6X's 'power' when Apple will still have devices running on the older A5, A5X, and A6 SoCs?
The greater answer is: A lot easier than it is for developers do for the 100+ different android phones, screen sizes, processors, GPUs, ram, accelerometers, etc, etc, etc, etc.
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Yep. They give us the fastest tablet ever made with the best screen on a tablet and the most versatile port on a tablet…
And all people can do is whine.
Ya- no need to whine- It's faster. If they didn't release it, then they would have released it in the spring with the exact same specs we have now. You get it earlier... and you're whining?
That said- I wouldn't buy it because I would assume they refresh it around May/June of next year to look more like the iPhone 5 and iPad Mini. It's a shame they didn't do that this time- but I'm sure their aluminum beveling machinery was maxed to capacity. Look forward to the prettier iPad- it just looks outdated next to the other iOS devices (and yet 2 months ago before any of the new ones were announced- it looked cutting edge and the prettiest tablet on the market).
No one tested LTE? iPhone 5 LTE is much better than the older implementation in the iPad 3 - Schiller mentioned improved LTE, presumably on par with the iPhone 5, so this would be noticeable improvement...
Because they replaced the fastest tablet ever made with the best screen on a tablet long before they actually needed to and long before people expected.
Most early adopters of the iPad3 had their one for a touch over 6 months before their resale value was seriously affected with this minor update.
You'd rather we go back to the 1990s when Intel doled out processor spec bumps in 33Mhz increments so they could milk the market S-L-O-W-L-Y? Oh look, here comes AMD with an air-cooled 1Ghz Athlon. Oops. Or Intel's plan to keep selling 32-bit chips because "the desktop isn't ready for 64-bit" and here comes AMD with a 64-bit x86 chip. Oops. You'd rather we do this? The A6X is here, now. You want Apple to wait until March 2013 to ship it?
Fastest CPU? On paper - maybe. In real life, the iPad blows the Nexus away.
Highest resolution? Not even close.
Modern looking OS? By whose standards? And if Android is so much more modern than iOS, why are all the people making Android devices falling all over themselves to copy iOS?
More RAM? Perhaps (I haven't checked the specs). Or is it like the SIII where some versions have different amounts of RAM than others - causing confusion? In the end, though, what matters is what you can do with it and the iPad leads the pack. Nothing else comes close in performance.
Have you actually used the iPad and the Nexus 10 side by side? Amazing if you have, since the Nexus 10 is not shipping yet, as far as I know.
"Most versatile port on a tablet"? In what way is it more versatile than the 30pin port? As for speed, that's great, but I never had any speed problems on the iPad 3. I have had to keep it plugged in WAY more than the iPad 2, which is annoying at the best of times, and more than annoying in these post-hurricane times when there is no power in the house. Had Apple fixed the battery life issues, that would have been wonderful. Mind you, I am not whining, but neither am I rushing out to buy an iPad 4.
Well, the screen of the Nexus 10 IS better, by a not slim margin, and there is a good chance it's faster too, which will show when both are finally benchmarked. As for the last point, most versatile, Android is largely more open and adaptable then iOS, while iOS has more apps currently, so one could argue it both ways.
I find it interesting that AI hasn't said word one about the Nexus 10, or the Nexus 4, for that matter, nor anything about the spec and price bumped 7. I know it's a big week for Apple, but pretending like nothing has happened with the competition is strange for this site.
I don't understand your logic. It doesn't matter if a tablet has a better screen, is faster and is more open when there are very few apps available and all of the exciting app development is happening on a different platform. Google can sell a transparent tablet made of diamonds for only $399 but it won't sell because you can't enjoy any good apps on that platform, or the rest of Apple's superior ecosystem. With Apple, you aren't just buying the hardware - you are also buying a robust ecosystem.
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No, it's not. You're comparing the Nexus' fake resolution to Apple's real resolution. Their resolution figures are significantly overstated because of the way they calculate them. Try putting the iPad 4 next to a Nexus 10 if you want to compare screens. Oh, wait. you can't - the Nexus 10 is vapor.
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No, it's not. You're comparing the Nexus' fake resolution to Apple's real resolution. Their resolution figures are significantly overstated because of the way they calculate them. Try putting the iPad 4 next to a Nexus 10 if you want to compare screens. Oh, wait. you can't - the Nexus 10 is vapor.
Ah, you finally get it despite your odd unsubstatiated claim that resolution on the Nexus10, which isn't shipping to consumers yet rather than vaporware, is overstated. Perhaps you could take a moment to explain how the calculation of reported resolution on the Nexus10 is flawed.
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The thought crossed my mind, is Apple moving to a new annular "tick tock" product cycle with the iPad. March/April 2013 for the new iPad/iPad Mini anyone?
No, I believe the iPad has moved to the iPod (fall) schedule.
me thinks a 6 month schedule may be in the offing for the iPad. iPhone... no... just because of the massive rollouts for countries/carriers.
The iPad, however competes in a different space, and has now got two major markets to address that the phone doesn't have as much play/sway in
- Business
- Education
And therefore, I think there will be 'tocks' released after every major OS upgrade in parallel with the iPhone x+1 release. The Ticks will be major functional releases in the spring timeframe to support the Mar-July corporate buy periods.
Minimally, my guess is the iPad Mini will get an RD in this spring (and the current getting a price drop to $249 for an 'entry level' iPad), and the iPad2 will be retired (either an iPad 3 with Lightning, or another 'tick' will occur with the iPad, and the current retina iPad will drop... making all iPads Lightning.
By the way in the future iPad 3 might only run iPad 2 and iPad mini quality games and not the iPad 4 high res games...
The only thing the Nexus 10 will get that I wish the iPad had is the multi-user support in 4.2.
Get a job.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Yep. They give us the fastest tablet ever made with the best screen on a tablet and the most versatile port on a tablet…
And all people can do is whine.
Because they replaced the fastest tablet ever made with the best screen on a tablet long before they actually needed to and long before people expected.
Most early adopters of the iPad3 had their one for a touch over 6 months before their resale value was seriously affected with this minor update.
I agree with that. Multi-user support would be nice. I would prefer, however, that it be possible to turn it off.
So what? Do you expect that your product is going to remain the leader forever? Or even for any specific time? Did your iPad 3 suddenly become slower or lose features? If not, why do you feel that you got ripped off? You got exactly what you paid for and it's still exactly what you paid for.
As for "before they needed to", you can't have it both ways. Some people are whining that Apple delays too long in introducing new technologies and others complain that they introduce them too fast. What should they do? They felt that they could offer a significantly better product without changing the price and they did so. That's a positive for consumers.
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Originally Posted by Evilution
Because they replaced the fastest tablet ever made with the best screen on a tablet long before they actually needed to and long before people expected.
Most early adopters of the iPad3 had their one for a touch over 6 months before their resale value was seriously affected with this minor update.
A. Your resale value ought not be Apple's concern.
B. If Apple goes a year between updates, certain people claim it's, "too long between updates, competitors are updating much more frequently." (Ignoring the fact that most of the "competitors" updates are much less than an "incremental refresh".) If they update every 6 months, we see equally ridiculous complaints like yours. One might infer that 9 months would be the perfect medium, but then people would probably complain about something else, like, "Apple's updates always come out in a different season." So, timing updates to attempt to "please customers" is a fools game. Releasing updates when they are ready, which is Apple's game across their product lines, is the only strategy that makes sense, for Apple and its customers.
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Originally Posted by DaHarder
The greater question is how developers will handle creating apps that specifically take advantage of the A6X's 'power' when Apple will still have devices running on the older A5, A5X, and A6 SoCs?
The greater answer is: A lot easier than it is for developers do for the 100+ different android phones, screen sizes, processors, GPUs, ram, accelerometers, etc, etc, etc, etc.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Yep. They give us the fastest tablet ever made with the best screen on a tablet and the most versatile port on a tablet…
And all people can do is whine.
Ya- no need to whine- It's faster. If they didn't release it, then they would have released it in the spring with the exact same specs we have now. You get it earlier... and you're whining?
That said- I wouldn't buy it because I would assume they refresh it around May/June of next year to look more like the iPhone 5 and iPad Mini. It's a shame they didn't do that this time- but I'm sure their aluminum beveling machinery was maxed to capacity. Look forward to the prettier iPad- it just looks outdated next to the other iOS devices (and yet 2 months ago before any of the new ones were announced- it looked cutting edge and the prettiest tablet on the market).
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Originally Posted by thrang
No one tested LTE? iPhone 5 LTE is much better than the older implementation in the iPad 3 - Schiller mentioned improved LTE, presumably on par with the iPhone 5, so this would be noticeable improvement...
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Because they replaced the fastest tablet ever made with the best screen on a tablet long before they actually needed to and long before people expected.
Most early adopters of the iPad3 had their one for a touch over 6 months before their resale value was seriously affected with this minor update.
You'd rather we go back to the 1990s when Intel doled out processor spec bumps in 33Mhz increments so they could milk the market S-L-O-W-L-Y? Oh look, here comes AMD with an air-cooled 1Ghz Athlon. Oops. Or Intel's plan to keep selling 32-bit chips because "the desktop isn't ready for 64-bit" and here comes AMD with a 64-bit x86 chip. Oops. You'd rather we do this? The A6X is here, now. You want Apple to wait until March 2013 to ship it?
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And the iOS chief being fired means to me that iOS 7 will get a big needed upgrade finally so will Siri. Johnny Ive realm now...
#next_pages_container { width: 5px; hight: 5px; position: absolute; top: -100px; left: -100px; z-index: 2147483647 !important; }Siri is pre-beta software, two years after the launch. I am not sure what Jonny can do about it.
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The trolls just don't stop.....
Fastest CPU? On paper - maybe. In real life, the iPad blows the Nexus away.
Highest resolution? Not even close.
Modern looking OS? By whose standards? And if Android is so much more modern than iOS, why are all the people making Android devices falling all over themselves to copy iOS?
More RAM? Perhaps (I haven't checked the specs). Or is it like the SIII where some versions have different amounts of RAM than others - causing confusion? In the end, though, what matters is what you can do with it and the iPad leads the pack. Nothing else comes close in performance.
#next_pages_container { width: 5px; hight: 5px; position: absolute; top: -100px; left: -100px; z-index: 2147483647 !important; }Have you actually used the iPad and the Nexus 10 side by side? Amazing if you have, since the Nexus 10 is not shipping yet, as far as I know.
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Yep. They give us the fastest tablet ever made with the best screen on a tablet and the most versatile port on a tablet…
And all people can do is whine.
#next_pages_container { width: 5px; hight: 5px; position: absolute; top: -100px; left: -100px; z-index: 2147483647 !important; }"Most versatile port on a tablet"? In what way is it more versatile than the 30pin port? As for speed, that's great, but I never had any speed problems on the iPad 3. I have had to keep it plugged in WAY more than the iPad 2, which is annoying at the best of times, and more than annoying in these post-hurricane times when there is no power in the house. Had Apple fixed the battery life issues, that would have been wonderful. Mind you, I am not whining, but neither am I rushing out to buy an iPad 4.
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Well, the screen of the Nexus 10 IS better, by a not slim margin, and there is a good chance it's faster too, which will show when both are finally benchmarked. As for the last point, most versatile, Android is largely more open and adaptable then iOS, while iOS has more apps currently, so one could argue it both ways.
I find it interesting that AI hasn't said word one about the Nexus 10, or the Nexus 4, for that matter, nor anything about the spec and price bumped 7. I know it's a big week for Apple, but pretending like nothing has happened with the competition is strange for this site.
I don't understand your logic. It doesn't matter if a tablet has a better screen, is faster and is more open when there are very few apps available and all of the exciting app development is happening on a different platform. Google can sell a transparent tablet made of diamonds for only $399 but it won't sell because you can't enjoy any good apps on that platform, or the rest of Apple's superior ecosystem. With Apple, you aren't just buying the hardware - you are also buying a robust ecosystem.
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Siri is pre-beta software, two years after the launch. I am not sure what Jonny can do about it.
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Siri is not Jonny's problem, it's Eddie Cue's. Read much?
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Siri is not Jonny's problem, it's Eddie Cue's. Read much?
#next_pages_container { width: 5px; hight: 5px; position: absolute; top: -100px; left: -100px; z-index: 2147483647 !important; }I was responding to a post which specifically mentioned Jonny. Perhaps you should go back to douche school?
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