NYC mayor blames increase in crime on demand for Apple products

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  • Reply 41 of 102
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 8,680member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by anonymouse View Post


    But, after nearly 20 years of the Rudy and Mike show, other than in the Times Square area, it's hard to say New York is a better place than it was before them, unless you're very rich.



     


    Times Square was better before. It was interesting, it was shady, there were many porn shops and funny characters there. It certainly had a vibe. It wasn't family friendly, but screw families. 


     


    Now, it's sanitized, it's sterile, it's boring, it's all commercialized, taken over by big name chains, everything is over-priced and it's where tourists walk around way too slowly as if they're in some sort of Disneyland. I tend to avoid Times Square if I can help it.

  • Reply 42 of 102
    tjstjs Posts: 31member
  • Reply 43 of 102
    I hope San Jose, California is taking notice. My house was burglarized a few months ago. I went to the police department with my MacBook Air in hand and showed them the location of my stolen iPad, using Find My Phone.

    "Sorry, we can't help you."

    "But it's right there. RIGHT THERE!"

    "Sorry, but it could be that house next to it. We just can't be sure."

    "Why not just go knock on the door?"

    "Sorry sir, we're cops and have big egos. Since this crime would be one that we didn't solve ourselves, we won't allow citizens to just come in and do our jobs for us. Also, we're fighting with City Hall to get more cops hired and to prevent the Mayor from gutting our pensions. Any positive crime-fighting news, such as a higher solve rate for burglaries, for example, and it would work against our we're-understaffed argument. Sorry."
  • Reply 44 of 102
    tjs wrote: »

    Cool!

    PS still can't thumb up from an iPad...
    He noted that mobile devices from Apple's competition, such as Samsung, were not included in the Apple-only figures.

    Huh? Apple-only figures would include just that, not mobile devices from the competition. What am I missing here?
    The mayor advised that that citizens should keep their Apple products in an interior pocket, making the device harder to reach and also making it easier to tell if someone has reached in to steal it.

    Huh#2? "...making it easier to tell if someone has reached in to steal..."

    'In the words of the Virgin Mary, Come again?'
  • Reply 45 of 102


    Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post

    PS still can't thumb up from an iPad…


     


    Switch to the mobile site!

  • Reply 46 of 102


    No worries. Bloomberg has a plan! New Yorkers will now be in much better physical shape to run after the thief to retrieve their stolen iPhones… positive outcome of the soda tax.

  • Reply 47 of 102

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    Originally Posted by philgar View Post


    I think people aren't really listening to the real message of this story.  It looks like NYC wants to help stop the stealing of apple devices, however they need help from apple owners.  A big part of the blame is likely the huge subsidies that phone makers pay for phones, but another part of the problem is how easy it is to sell stolen apple products.  Most people who have a phone think of it as costing $200 at most, and don't consider the $500 that the carriers are putting toward it.  If they realized they were holding a $700 device, they might be more careful about flashing it around in public.  People know better than to flash around expensive jewelry on a subway, or show that you're carrying a bunch of money etc.  Why shouldn't they be equally careful with their phones?  And the city is trying to convince people to do that. Phones and tablets should be guarded more carefully.  Throwing a phone in a loose coat pocket while on the subway is not a smart idea.


     


    As far as what apple has to do with it, it's all due to apple's popularity.  It's not that an iphone is inherently that much more valuable than an android phone, but rather that it's SO easy to unload a stolen iphone because there are so many used iphones for sale.  If a particular model of an android phone gets stolen, checking craigslist and pawn shops for that particular model might be an effective strategy, as there likely aren't too many used models for sale.  iPhones are so popular, and have so few models that unloading one is a breeze.  Likely with no questions asked whatsoever.  


     


    Really, the people who should take the most away from this are A: apple product owners who need to be more careful, and B: insurance agencies who should looking into charging apple product owners more because of the increased crime associated with apple products.


     


    Phil



     


    Don’t be ridiculous Phill. Next thing you propose is for every iPhone owner to buy a gun to protect your smartphone. Give me a break. The only message Bloomberg is sending with this statement is: “Don’t blame me for increased crime in NYC, it’s Apple”. We live in the 21st century. All we need is a solid device ID tracking system that blocks stolen phone IDs with any provider across the globe. Period

  • Reply 48 of 102


    Originally Posted by r1sko View Post

    The only message Bloomberg is sending with this statement is: “Don’t blame me for increased crime in NYC, it’s Apple”.


     


    That's probably a valid interpretation of what is happening here.


     


    It's also a massive load of hoo-ha.






    We live in the 21st century. All we need is a solid device ID tracking system that blocks stolen phone IDs with any provider across the globe.



     


    Define "stolen". Police this system for false-positives. Manage reselling. Can you do it?

  • Reply 49 of 102

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post


     


    Times Square was better before. It was interesting, it was shady, there were many porn shops and funny characters there. It certainly had a vibe. It wasn't family friendly, but screw families. 


     


    Now, it's sanitized, it's sterile, it's boring, it's all commercialized, taken over by big name chains, everything is over-priced and it's where tourists walk around way too slowly as if they're in some sort of Disneyland. I tend to avoid Times Square if I can help it



    Porn has moved to the internet. You can find funny characters in NYC anywhere. Time Square was unclean, disgusting with garbage everywhere. Commercialized as some may think but it fits better with the Broadway theaters around the area and Central Park just above it. Traffic flow is much better with some lanes sectioned off for turning. Alot of streets around the boroughs are newly paved.


     


    Your seedy aspect of the city isn't all gone. People are still being pushed on to the subway tracks by the mentally ill.

  • Reply 50 of 102
    dysamoriadysamoria Posts: 2,211member
    Welcome to the USA. We blame all of our social problems on anything but the core traits of our society.
  • Reply 51 of 102
    Switch to the mobile site!
    Oops, my bad. Was using the mobile site on my desktop, and the mob ...aaah. Thanks
  • Reply 52 of 102
    r1sko wrote: »
    All we need is a solid device ID tracking system that blocks stolen phone IDs with any provider across the globe. Period

    That's already in place
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Equipment_Identity_Register
  • Reply 53 of 102


     


    Here's the rub:


     




    it is not supposed to work


  • Reply 54 of 102
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    dysamoria wrote: »
    Welcome to the USA. We blame all of our social problems on anything but the core traits of our society.

    It's humanity, or humans, as a whole and has nothing to do with one set of people from a single nation.
  • Reply 55 of 102


    Bacon for president!!

  • Reply 56 of 102


    Originally Posted by GadgetCanada View Post

    Bacon for president!!


     


    I beg to differ.


     


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  • Reply 57 of 102
    john.bjohn.b Posts: 2,720member


    In other news, Mayor Bloomberg blames Honda for car thefts in New York City:  Hondas Stolen Most Often in New York City (WSJ.com)

  • Reply 58 of 102
    philgar wrote: »
    I think people aren't really listening to the real message of this story.  It looks like NYC wants to help stop the stealing of apple devices, however they need help from apple owners.  A big part of the blame is likely the huge subsidies that phone makers pay for phones, but another part of the problem is how easy it is to sell stolen apple products.  Most people who have a phone think of it as costing $200 at most, and don't consider the $500 that the carriers are putting toward it.  If they realized they were holding a $700 device, they might be more careful about flashing it around in public.  People know better than to flash around expensive jewelry on a subway, or show that you're carrying a bunch of money etc.  Why shouldn't they be equally careful with their phones?  And the city is trying to convince people to do that. Phones and tablets should be guarded more carefully.  Throwing a phone in a loose coat pocket while on the subway is not a smart idea.

    As far as what apple has to do with it, it's all due to apple's popularity.  It's not that an iphone is inherently that much more valuable than an android phone, but rather that it's SO easy to unload a stolen iphone because there are so many used iphones for sale.  If a particular model of an android phone gets stolen, checking craigslist and pawn shops for that particular model might be an effective strategy, as there likely aren't too many used models for sale.  iPhones are so popular, and have so few models that unloading one is a breeze.  Likely with no questions asked whatsoever.  

    Really, the people who should take the most away from this are A: apple product owners who need to be more careful, and B: insurance agencies who should looking into charging apple product owners more because of the increased crime associated with apple products.

    Phil

    Exactly. Someone gets it, at least part of it.
  • Reply 59 of 102
    "Apple wrote:
    [" url="/t/155233/nyc-mayor-blames-increase-in-crime-on-demand-for-apple-products/30#post_2251908"]Do you live in NYC?

    The dude is more ban happy than Hitler when it comes to certain issues, like cigarettes and certain food/drink items. And I'm not just throwing Hitler in to this conversation because I'm trying to godwin the topic. I'm throwing it in, because it happens to be a fact. Go look it up if you are unaware of history. Americans don't need any hypocritical politicians dictating to them what they are allowed to eat or not. Bloomberg has an authoritarian and dictatorial streak that is downright un-American. Bloomberg should take his dictator fetish and take over some third world country, where the people are accustomed to dictators and other sorts of douchebags.

    I also remember when a car bomb went off in Times Square a few years ago. The idiot mayor speculated that it might be some "tea party" member with an axe to grind, while almost everybody else with a functioning brain knew exactly who was behind it, as soon as it happened. Did the idiot Bloomberg forget about a certain terrorist attack against the city a decade or so ago, where certain iconic buildings were completely destroyed? 

    Regardless of what you say, bringing Hitler into any forum here is not one of your better moments. I'm sorry for you.
  • Reply 60 of 102
    philboogie wrote: »
    Cool!
    PS still can't thumb up from an iPad...
    Huh? Apple-only figures would include just that, not mobile devices from the competition. What am I missing here?

    I loved that bit. My read on it was that they didn't bother to count the stats on any other model. Just Apple stuff. Which could perhaps show that there were just as many reports of theft for said devices. Meaning the issue isn't iPhones so much as smartphones
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