Still no change on my order status. It is January 22. I ordered on November 31. The shop said (that Apple said) that I would receive my order "in January". Well, the countdown period is here; less than ten days to go, only seven business days...
You ordered 5 weeks before I did. I hope you get yours first for the sake of fairness but OMG I WANT MINE NOW.
No change. My shop is embarrassed and apologized when I went in today (Japanese manners), despite it not being their fault. They can't even give me any information on my order, whether it is being processed or what. No shipping estimate. They have no idea.
The Apple online store shows 3-4 weeks for a new CTO order... and has since last week.
I think that other distribution points were given lower priority than the Apple Stores, regardless of order of order.
Commas; it's the difference between "I helped my uncle Jack, off a horse," and "I helped my uncle Jack off a horse."
Happy horse?
Spoken versus written (or the transcription of speech) language can cause problems!
A typo is one thing; a recurring error is something else. There are many recurring errors on the net.
Another one that gets me is the widespread misuse of "then" and "than". Even Fox News, CNN, BBC and the New York Times have had this appear on their pages. [Years ago I had a hobby of sending corrections to CNN but gave up after the articles weren't updated even weeks later. In one article, I recall finding over ten errors.]
"It's bigger then an orange." >> where "then" should be "than"
Commas; it's the difference between "I helped my uncle Jack, off a horse," and "I helped my uncle Jack off a horse."
Happy horse?
Spoken versus written (or the transcription of speech) language can cause problems!
A typo is one thing; a recurring error is something else. There are many recurring errors on the net.
Another one that gets me is the widespread misuse of "then" and "than". Even Fox News, CNN, BBC and the New York Times have had this appear on their pages. [Years ago I had a hobby of sending corrections to CNN but gave up after the articles weren't updated even weeks later. In one article, I recall finding over ten errors.]
"It's bigger then an orange." >> where "then" should be "than"
Annoying, isn't it? I also see it. Many times too instead of two or to. Their instead of there. Oh well, could also be autocorrupt on these smartphones. There are websites dedicated to that stuff: http://www.damnyouautocorrect.com
My ares waitinging four I's newester iMacs. That ams knot hear end we's darn't no's were thats being.
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The damage being done to the English language (and others, likely) by the net is incredible. I saw somewhere that a school allowed students to submit essays that included net shorthand.
Man that would be crazy to grade.
WWTWTDT? PBTHNIHTKTSASTJGU. ID. TWIGC!
OMG,ISN!
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This is what happens to the brain when you have to wait two months to get a new machine!
My ares waitinging four I's newester iMacs. That ams knot hear end we's darn't no's were thats being.
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The damage being done to the English language (and others, likely) by the net is incredible. I saw somewhere that a school allowed students to submit essays that included net shorthand.
Man that would be crazy to grade.
WWTWTDT? PBTHNIHTKTSASTJGU. ID. TWIGC!
OMG,ISN!
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This is what happens to the brain when you have to wait two months to get a new machine!
I'm all for the evolution of language but communication still needs to be key or the point is moot. I don't understand the people that will come to a forum such as this one, sign up, and make a comment without any consideration for attempting to properly communicate. And by properly communicate I mean address the audience to which they are writing.
Sometimes these people will later claim they don't care if their point is read, understood, or if others agree with but then why write it on a public forum. I certainly don't expect anyone else to see the world in the way I do but I definitely give 100% when trying to communicate a thought or idea.
When I make a persuasive argument my goal is to persuade one or more people that my point has merit but the trick to making a persuasive argument is to understand the other person's point of view.
I'm a big fan of modern shorthand. It's efficient but it's not appropriate for all environments. I'm not going to use it on a résumé/CV but I will use it where appropriate. I don't think the classroom is appropriate as I don't see how it increases one's education or adde to their chances in the job market.
It also changes fairly quickly. Did you know that acronyms and initialisms are a 20th century phenomenon. I believe the change happened when long range forms of communications occurred at the end of the 19th century and then fueled by World Wars.
This is a great video:
[VIDEO]
Transcript:
Spoiler:
For me, it is a cause of some upset that more Anglophones don’t enjoy language. Music is enjoyable it seems, so are dance and other, athletic forms of movement. People seem to be able to find sensual and sensuous pleasure in almost anything but words these days. Words, it seems belong to other people, anyone who expresses themselves with originality, delight and verbal freshness is more likely to be mocked, distrusted or disliked than welcomed. The free and happy use of words appears to be considered elitist or pretentious. Sadly, desperately sadly, the only people who seem to bother with language in public today bother with it in quite the wrong way. They write letters to broadcasters and newspapers in which they are rude and haughty about other people’s usage and in which they show off their own superior ‘knowledge’ of how language should be. I hate that, and I particularly hate the fact that so many of these pedants assume that I’m on their side. When asked to join in a “let’s persuade this supermarket chain to get rid of their ‘five items or less’ sign” I never join in. Yes, I am aware of the technical distinction between ‘less’ and ‘fewer’, and between ‘uninterested’ and ‘disinterested’ and ‘infer’ and ‘imply’, but none of these are of importance to me. ‘None of these are of importance,’ I wrote there, you’ll notice – the old pedantic me would have insisted on “none of them is of importance”. Well I’m glad to say I’ve outgrown that silly approach to language. Oscar Wilde, and there have been few greater and more complete lords of language in the past thousand years, once included with a manuscript he was delivering to his publishers a compliment slip in which he had scribbled the injunction: “I’ll leave you to tidy up the woulds and shoulds, wills and shalls, thats and whiches &c.” Which gives us all encouragement to feel less guilty, don’t you think?
There are all kinds of pedants around with more time to read and imitate Lynne Truss and John Humphrys than to write poems, love-letters, novels and stories it seems. They whip out their Sharpies and take away and add apostrophes from public signs, shake their heads at prepositions which end sentences and mutter at split infinitives and misspellings, but do they bubble and froth and slobber and cream with joy at language? Do they ever let the tripping of the tips of their tongues against the tops of their teeth transport them to giddy euphoric bliss? Do they ever yoke impossible words together for the sound-sex of it? Do they use language to seduce, charm, excite, please, affirm and tickle those they talk to? Do they? I doubt it. They’re too farting busy sneering at a greengrocer’s less than perfect use of the apostrophe. Well sod them to Hades. They think they’re guardians of language. They’re no more guardians of language than the Kennel Club is the guardian of dogkind.
The worst of this sorry bunch of semi-educated losers are those who seem to glory in being irritated by nouns becoming verbs. How dense and deaf to language development do you have to be? If you don’t like nouns becoming verbs, then for heaven’s sake avoid Shakespeare who made a doing-word out of a thing-word every chance he got. He TABLED the motion and CHAIRED the meeting in which nouns were made verbs. New examples from our time might take some getting used to: ‘He actioned it that day’ for instance might strike some as a verbing too far, but we have been sanctioning, envisioning, propositioning and stationing for a long time, so why not ‘action’? ‘Because it’s ugly,’ whinge the pedants. It’s only ugly because it’s new and you don’t like it. Ugly in the way Picasso, Stravinsky and Eliot were once thought ugly and before them Monet, Mahler and Baudelaire. Pedants will also claim, with what I am sure is eye-popping insincerity and shameless disingenuousness, that their fight is only for ‘clarity’. This is all very well, but there is no doubt what ‘Five items or less’ means, just as only a dolt can’t tell from the context and from the age and education of the speaker, whether ‘disinterested’ is used in the ‘proper’ sense of non-partisan, or in the ‘improper’ sense of uninterested. No, the claim to be defending language for the sake of clarity almost never, ever holds water. Nor does the idea that following grammatical rules in language demonstrates clarity of thought and intelligence of mind. Having said this, I admit that if you want to communicate well for the sake of passing an exam or job interview, then it is obvious that wildly original and excessively heterodox language could land you in the soup. I think what offends examiners and employers when confronted with extremely informal, unpunctuated and haywire language is the implication of not caring that underlies it. You slip into a suit for an interview and you dress your language up too. You can wear what you like linguistically or sartorially when you’re at home or with friends, but most people accept the need to smarten up under some circumstances – it’s only considerate. But that is an issue of fitness, of suitability, it has nothing to do with correctness. There no right language or wrong language any more than are right or wrong clothes. Context, convention and circumstance are all.[/INDENT]
I actually have nothing to add, other than thank you both for the good laughs and good post. from both of you. (Gotta love Stephen Fry; I've seen that video and I think he's great.)
I'd argue the other way. A lot of users that used to require tower computers just don't anymore, and that diminishes the incentive to continually refresh the model. For example, graphic design used to be a staple customer for the Apple towers, now they can just get iMacs because they're more than capable enough and they don't need add-in cards anymore. The video editing and heavy compute/scientific market might not be enough to hold down its own model on an annual refresh cycle.
Well, it can certainly be enough to require a refresh more often than every three and a half years! Imagine if Apple refreshed every product that infrequently. The professional market is very competitive. The 2012 Mac Pro "refresh" was not one at all. I bought my 5,1 Mac Pro in mid 2010. A new one is not expected until late 2013, if then. The technology is ancient in computer advancement years.
My iMac with upgraded CPU and hdd just shipped. Trouble is I ordered it in early December and the ETA is February. Announced in October, available to order in December, shipping in (very late) January and arriving in February. Over an entire financial quarter from announcement to delivery. Not good.
I'm all for the evolution of language but communication still needs to be key or the point is moot. I don't understand the people that will come to a forum such as this one, sign up, and make a comment without any consideration for attempting to properly communicate. And by properly communicate I mean address the audience to which they are writing.
Sometimes these people will later claim they don't care if their point is read, understood, or if others agree with but then why write it on a public forum. I certainly don't expect anyone else to see the world in the way I do but I definitely give 100% when trying to communicate a thought or idea.
When I make a persuasive argument my goal is to persuade one or more people that my point has merit but the trick to making a persuasive argument is to understand the other person's point of view.
I'm a big fan of modern shorthand. It's efficient but it's not appropriate for all environments. I'm not going to use it on a résumé/CV but I will use it where appropriate. I don't think the classroom is appropriate as I don't see how it increases one's education or adde to their chances in the job market.
It also changes fairly quickly. Did you know that acronyms and initialisms are a 20th century phenomenon. I believe the change happened when long range forms of communications occurred at the end of the 19th century and then fueled by World Wars.
Language is a living beast. It grows and changes all the time, moving forward and possibly dropping backward, sometimes through the great genius and effort of the likes of Shakespeare, sometimes through the more casual (even lazy? - but that does not make it wrong) efforts of the more common person. What I find, though, on the net, is simply a lot of lack of caring and a rush to produce, which results in often garbled blobs of pixels that occasionally lack much meaning, or where the garbling of the actual presentation detracts from the material being presented. There is also the anonymity which permits a stretching or even distortion of our message and often results in a manner which is likely more informed-seeming, negative and critical than the writer actually is in person. The instantaneousness of it all also sometimes results in what can best be described as a transcription of casual banter, which has not been common till now and may, outside of the net, often be unwarranted or unwanted. Can you imagine if someone were to transcribe the endless chatter in some Joe's home and you were to read it? Unless Joe lived in a monastery, it would likely be quite boring to someone outside of his immediate family. If he lived in a monastery, it would be refreshingly short!
Anyway, we have delightful transgressed from the topic at hand, possibly boring the heck out of people reading this thread, perhaps not. They may be hesitating to write, WTHAYGGTSTHU?????
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Today was Saturday the 26th. Still no word from my shop.
My iMac with upgraded CPU and hdd just shipped. Trouble is I ordered it in early December and the ETA is February. Announced in October, available to order in December, shipping in (very late) January and arriving in February. Over an entire financial quarter from announcement to delivery. Not good.
Not their best, I will agree.
If the model is refreshed in June, many will feel pretty irritated.
Monday, January 28. Three days to go for my promised delivery of "January".
Stopped by the shop again.
Again, no news regarding my order. None. Zero. Zip. Nada. They have heard nothing, repeat nothing from Apple. Not even that it is in processing.
The staff is almost embarrassed to talk to me and apologized five times.
This is pretty horrible. I'm hating my 3-4 week wait but I am still well within the agreed timeframe and don't doubt they'll get to me on time. I hope you get word soon.
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You ordered 5 weeks before I did. I hope you get yours first for the sake of fairness but OMG I WANT MINE NOW.
No change. My shop is embarrassed and apologized when I went in today (Japanese manners), despite it not being their fault. They can't even give me any information on my order, whether it is being processed or what. No shipping estimate. They have no idea.
The Apple online store shows 3-4 weeks for a new CTO order... and has since last week.
I think that other distribution points were given lower priority than the Apple Stores, regardless of order of order.
Strange how one can feel sorry for someone without ever having met them. Hang in there. You too Solipsism, and everyone still waiting.
In the immortal words of Marge Simpson: "there, there".
That reminds me of this scene from The Big Bang Theory.
[VIDEO]
Out evidence of shipments over the past few days I've taken.
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I feel better now. Thanks.
I'm sure we could write a yarn based on the Hee Haw song of old...
Where oh where is my iMac
Why did Apple not ship it out yet
. .
Thanks for the laughs. Nice sig as well!
Commas; it's the difference between "I helped my uncle Jack, off a horse," and "I helped my uncle Jack off a horse."
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilBoogie
Thanks for the laughs. Nice sig as well!
Commas; it's the difference between "I helped my uncle Jack, off a horse," and "I helped my uncle Jack off a horse."
Happy horse?
Spoken versus written (or the transcription of speech) language can cause problems!
A typo is one thing; a recurring error is something else. There are many recurring errors on the net.
Another one that gets me is the widespread misuse of "then" and "than". Even Fox News, CNN, BBC and the New York Times have had this appear on their pages. [Years ago I had a hobby of sending corrections to CNN but gave up after the articles weren't updated even weeks later. In one article, I recall finding over ten errors.]
"It's bigger then an orange." >> where "then" should be "than"
Annoying, isn't it? I also see it. Many times too instead of two or to. Their instead of there. Oh well, could also be autocorrupt on these smartphones. There are websites dedicated to that stuff:
http://www.damnyouautocorrect.com
My ares waitinging four I's newester iMacs. That ams knot hear end we's darn't no's were thats being.
- - - - -
The damage being done to the English language (and others, likely) by the net is incredible. I saw somewhere that a school allowed students to submit essays that included net shorthand.
Man that would be crazy to grade.
WWTWTDT? PBTHNIHTKTSASTJGU. ID. TWIGC!
OMG,ISN!
- - - - -
This is what happens to the brain when you have to wait two months to get a new machine!
I'm all for the evolution of language but communication still needs to be key or the point is moot. I don't understand the people that will come to a forum such as this one, sign up, and make a comment without any consideration for attempting to properly communicate. And by properly communicate I mean address the audience to which they are writing.
Sometimes these people will later claim they don't care if their point is read, understood, or if others agree with but then why write it on a public forum. I certainly don't expect anyone else to see the world in the way I do but I definitely give 100% when trying to communicate a thought or idea.
When I make a persuasive argument my goal is to persuade one or more people that my point has merit but the trick to making a persuasive argument is to understand the other person's point of view.
I'm a big fan of modern shorthand. It's efficient but it's not appropriate for all environments. I'm not going to use it on a résumé/CV but I will use it where appropriate. I don't think the classroom is appropriate as I don't see how it increases one's education or adde to their chances in the job market.
It also changes fairly quickly. Did you know that acronyms and initialisms are a 20th century phenomenon. I believe the change happened when long range forms of communications occurred at the end of the 19th century and then fueled by World Wars.
This is a great video:
[VIDEO]
Transcript:
There are all kinds of pedants around with more time to read and imitate Lynne Truss and John Humphrys than to write poems, love-letters, novels and stories it seems. They whip out their Sharpies and take away and add apostrophes from public signs, shake their heads at prepositions which end sentences and mutter at split infinitives and misspellings, but do they bubble and froth and slobber and cream with joy at language? Do they ever let the tripping of the tips of their tongues against the tops of their teeth transport them to giddy euphoric bliss? Do they ever yoke impossible words together for the sound-sex of it? Do they use language to seduce, charm, excite, please, affirm and tickle those they talk to? Do they? I doubt it. They’re too farting busy sneering at a greengrocer’s less than perfect use of the apostrophe. Well sod them to Hades. They think they’re guardians of language. They’re no more guardians of language than the Kennel Club is the guardian of dogkind.
The worst of this sorry bunch of semi-educated losers are those who seem to glory in being irritated by nouns becoming verbs. How dense and deaf to language development do you have to be? If you don’t like nouns becoming verbs, then for heaven’s sake avoid Shakespeare who made a doing-word out of a thing-word every chance he got. He TABLED the motion and CHAIRED the meeting in which nouns were made verbs. New examples from our time might take some getting used to: ‘He actioned it that day’ for instance might strike some as a verbing too far, but we have been sanctioning, envisioning, propositioning and stationing for a long time, so why not ‘action’? ‘Because it’s ugly,’ whinge the pedants. It’s only ugly because it’s new and you don’t like it. Ugly in the way Picasso, Stravinsky and Eliot were once thought ugly and before them Monet, Mahler and Baudelaire. Pedants will also claim, with what I am sure is eye-popping insincerity and shameless disingenuousness, that their fight is only for ‘clarity’. This is all very well, but there is no doubt what ‘Five items or less’ means, just as only a dolt can’t tell from the context and from the age and education of the speaker, whether ‘disinterested’ is used in the ‘proper’ sense of non-partisan, or in the ‘improper’ sense of uninterested. No, the claim to be defending language for the sake of clarity almost never, ever holds water. Nor does the idea that following grammatical rules in language demonstrates clarity of thought and intelligence of mind. Having said this, I admit that if you want to communicate well for the sake of passing an exam or job interview, then it is obvious that wildly original and excessively heterodox language could land you in the soup. I think what offends examiners and employers when confronted with extremely informal, unpunctuated and haywire language is the implication of not caring that underlies it. You slip into a suit for an interview and you dress your language up too. You can wear what you like linguistically or sartorially when you’re at home or with friends, but most people accept the need to smarten up under some circumstances – it’s only considerate. But that is an issue of fitness, of suitability, it has nothing to do with correctness. There no right language or wrong language any more than are right or wrong clothes. Context, convention and circumstance are all.[/INDENT]
I actually have nothing to add, other than thank you both for the good laughs and good post. from both of you. (Gotta love Stephen Fry; I've seen that video and I think he's great.)
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffDM
I'd argue the other way. A lot of users that used to require tower computers just don't anymore, and that diminishes the incentive to continually refresh the model. For example, graphic design used to be a staple customer for the Apple towers, now they can just get iMacs because they're more than capable enough and they don't need add-in cards anymore. The video editing and heavy compute/scientific market might not be enough to hold down its own model on an annual refresh cycle.
Well, it can certainly be enough to require a refresh more often than every three and a half years! Imagine if Apple refreshed every product that infrequently. The professional market is very competitive. The 2012 Mac Pro "refresh" was not one at all. I bought my 5,1 Mac Pro in mid 2010. A new one is not expected until late 2013, if then. The technology is ancient in computer advancement years.
Quote:
Originally Posted by SolipsismX
I'm all for the evolution of language but communication still needs to be key or the point is moot. I don't understand the people that will come to a forum such as this one, sign up, and make a comment without any consideration for attempting to properly communicate. And by properly communicate I mean address the audience to which they are writing.
Sometimes these people will later claim they don't care if their point is read, understood, or if others agree with but then why write it on a public forum. I certainly don't expect anyone else to see the world in the way I do but I definitely give 100% when trying to communicate a thought or idea.
When I make a persuasive argument my goal is to persuade one or more people that my point has merit but the trick to making a persuasive argument is to understand the other person's point of view.
I'm a big fan of modern shorthand. It's efficient but it's not appropriate for all environments. I'm not going to use it on a résumé/CV but I will use it where appropriate. I don't think the classroom is appropriate as I don't see how it increases one's education or adde to their chances in the job market.
It also changes fairly quickly. Did you know that acronyms and initialisms are a 20th century phenomenon. I believe the change happened when long range forms of communications occurred at the end of the 19th century and then fueled by World Wars.
Language is a living beast. It grows and changes all the time, moving forward and possibly dropping backward, sometimes through the great genius and effort of the likes of Shakespeare, sometimes through the more casual (even lazy? - but that does not make it wrong) efforts of the more common person. What I find, though, on the net, is simply a lot of lack of caring and a rush to produce, which results in often garbled blobs of pixels that occasionally lack much meaning, or where the garbling of the actual presentation detracts from the material being presented. There is also the anonymity which permits a stretching or even distortion of our message and often results in a manner which is likely more informed-seeming, negative and critical than the writer actually is in person. The instantaneousness of it all also sometimes results in what can best be described as a transcription of casual banter, which has not been common till now and may, outside of the net, often be unwarranted or unwanted. Can you imagine if someone were to transcribe the endless chatter in some Joe's home and you were to read it? Unless Joe lived in a monastery, it would likely be quite boring to someone outside of his immediate family. If he lived in a monastery, it would be refreshingly short!
Anyway, we have delightful transgressed from the topic at hand, possibly boring the heck out of people reading this thread, perhaps not. They may be hesitating to write, WTHAYGGTSTHU?????
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Today was Saturday the 26th. Still no word from my shop.
Quote:
Originally Posted by womblingfree
My iMac with upgraded CPU and hdd just shipped. Trouble is I ordered it in early December and the ETA is February. Announced in October, available to order in December, shipping in (very late) January and arriving in February. Over an entire financial quarter from announcement to delivery. Not good.
Not their best, I will agree.
If the model is refreshed in June, many will feel pretty irritated.
Monday, January 28. Three days to go for my promised delivery of "January".
Stopped by the shop again.
Again, no news regarding my order. None. Zero. Zip. Nada. They have heard nothing, repeat nothing from Apple. Not even that it is in processing.
The staff is almost embarrassed to talk to me and apologized five times.
This is pretty horrible. I'm hating my 3-4 week wait but I am still well within the agreed timeframe and don't doubt they'll get to me on time. I hope you get word soon.