Apple's also leaving money on the table by not selling cinnamon raisin bread, raspberry wheat beer, and trips to the moon.
"leaving money on the table" is a stupid reason to push for a change in strategy. Unless you sell 100% of everything that someone needs, you're ALWAYS leaving money on the table. There's nothing wrong with that. In fact, being focused on producing a narrower line of industry leading products has been demonstrated to be the more profitable choice - just look at Apple's results next to HTC, for example.
It's a pretty big table and Apple is eating plenty. I guess investors want Apple to eat it all.
In our universe, all we know is that more people buy phones with iOS than buy specific phones made by Samsung, HTC, Motorola, Sony, LG, or any other manufacturer.
There's a reason for that.
Originally Posted by dasanman69
It's a pretty big table and Apple is eating plenty. I guess investors want Apple to eat it all.
They demand Apple eat it all, otherwise they are doomed. And then when Apple does, they get sued for anti-trust issues.
Add phone capability to the iPad and iPad mini, and another phone to match the samsung 3, and shut everyone up. Having an iPad, it would be great to be able to take a phone call with a bluetooth headset while collaborating on a spreadsheet on the screen.
If apple doesnt have a big screen when my contract expires, i am buying a nexus phone. And i am not alone
There definitely is a market for a larger screen iPhone.
I know a few people who bought the Samsung S for it's larger screen. They admit they put up with shorter battery charge life and other android weaknesses.
I find the iPhone size fine, but not all have my very good close vision.
I find those who like the larger screen, definitely don't have my very good close vision. I prefer the higher quality iPhone screen, they don't notice the difference.
My suggestion is slightly less than 5" and greater than 4.5", perhaps about 4.7".
I’m genuinely curious as to why you want a phone with a bigger display? Everyone I have seen with a large Android device pressed against their heads looks like absolute twats. I can understand wanting a bigger display for content such as games/books/movies etc but then why wouldn’t you just get an iPad?
Apple has explained why they went for the 4” display, it’s the biggest they could go and still maintain one handed operation.
I find it rather easy to operate my 4.6" galaxy Nexus with one hand. I am 6'-4" with big hands and simply find the iPhone too small...
I Started with Android because i have to use Verizon, but I stayed with it because I simply liked the screen and size of the Galaxy Nexus over the iPhone 4 which was the iPhone at the time. I can't see the 1/2" added to the bottom of the iPhone 5 much of a reason to switch to the iPhone...
Seven people at my office got new phones in the last two months of the year. All but one got Galaxy phones over iPhones (Two Switched from iPhone 4).
I’m genuinely curious as to why you want a phone with a bigger display? Everyone I have seen with a large Android device pressed against their heads looks like absolute twats. I can understand wanting a bigger display for content such as games/books/movies etc but then why wouldn’t you just get an iPad?
Apple has explained why they went for the 4” display, it’s the biggest they could go and still maintain one handed operation.
I need a bigger screen because i do a lot of internet on my phone and i need something between a tablet and a small phone for the job. I also would like a bigger screen because i cant see well at short distance now. I used low prescription glass for reading but i dont carry those all the time. 5" phones are here to stay, regardless of the people you thinks that because they dont need them, nobody needs them.
Another thing i like about the nexus 4 is its only 360$ unlock. Its the most popular phone at my work place amount people shopping for a new phone.
The Nexus 4 is made by LG. I don't want to speak for the other gentleman, but the Nexus 4 is on the same level of quality as an iPhone 4 or 4s. Glass back/front, it's a very well made phone. My overall opinion is that Android phones are crap, cheaply made - except for this one. If Google and it's hardware partners continue on that path, watch out.
Again, I don't want to speak for the other guy as your question was directed at him, not me - but 4.7 inches (Nexus 4) isn't much larger than the iPhone 5. I will agree on the 5 + inch behemoths, etc, it's just ugly. I know people love the Galaxy Note but it's just too big to use as a phone (my opinion)
But 4.7" on the Nexus is pretty much usable with one hand. As much so as my iPhone 5.
Indeed. Most of the android devices dont have well balance specs and often have huge bottlenecks. But the nexus 4 is very well design and balance allowing a very nice price for what you get. Imo its beats the crap out of the more expensive iphone 4 and iphone 4s. To top it off I think android as leap over iOS in terms of innovation and power, making it a better OS for the moment.
It makes wonder what the hell is apple doing? They are sitting on pile of cash and not doing much of anything with it.
A few people saying 'I want one' isn't enough to be the right reason. There would have to be significant market demand, which isn't demonstrated in the sales figures when the iPhone 5 outsells all of them:
Oh... so the iPhone 4 and the iPhone 4S weren't selling that well so Apple brought out the 4" iPhone 5 to compete with the larger phones that were selling well...
Indeed. If I ever buy an android device its going to be a Nexus, I want something i can upgrade without dealing with manufacturers layers on top of android.
Indeed. Most of the android devices dont have well balance specs and often have huge bottlenecks. But the nexus 4 is very well design and balance allowing a very nice price for what you get. Imo its beats the crap out of the more expensive iphone 4 and iphone 4s. To top it off I think android as leap over iOS in terms of innovation and power, making it a better OS for the moment.
It makes wonder what the hell is apple doing? They are sitting on pile of cash and not doing much of anything with it.
I'm sure Apple isn't gonna spend money just to spend it. Why waste 12.5 billion on a has-been mobile device company?
Btw, you prob mean Android 4.2 is better because most Android devices are stuck at 2.x.
Natural evolution- the screen should be larger- Apple must IMO, develop a slightly larger form factor for a variety of reasons.
When the Iphone was released it was a huge step forward in many ways. Today, the small screen lacks.
Reasons- Typing accuracy, eyesight limitations, ease of use etc, visual real estate. Slimmer, lighter phones can easily handle the larger screen.
No point in letting other companies get a leg up.
Apple should evolve to a 5" screen size, its a natural direction. Lets call it "Guy-phone"- for those of us with big mitts.
Those seeking smaller form factor- a wrist worn repeater would do the trick. I truly hope Apple is developing, that too, is a natural direction. Again, no point in letting other companies..........
I agree and have noticed many women have trouble holding the 4.5" and larger phones.
Even with my large hand the Samsung S3 is a handful, the largest phone I could safely hold.
<span style="font-size:13px;line-height:1.231;">Apple is losing customers over this issue...</span>
If it's not this issue it's another:
No cheap feature phone for developing markets
No NFC chip
No SD card slot
No OLED screen with PenTile
No quad core CPU
No removable battery
No side loading of apps
No Android
All with the same justification: "Android is winning! Samsung is winning! Tim Cook needs to copy them to stay competitive!"
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It's a pretty big table and Apple is eating plenty. I guess investors want Apple to eat it all.
A baked flan or tart with a savory filling thickened with eggs?
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Originally Posted by Plagen
There are several ways to wear a phablet. You can carry it in a holster if you want to look even more ridiculous than wearing a fanny pack.
You can chain it around the neck. Heck, guys used to wear huge alarm clocks this way, why not a phone?
Originally Posted by wakefinance
In our universe, all we know is that more people buy phones with iOS than buy specific phones made by Samsung, HTC, Motorola, Sony, LG, or any other manufacturer.
There's a reason for that.
Originally Posted by dasanman69
It's a pretty big table and Apple is eating plenty. I guess investors want Apple to eat it all.
They demand Apple eat it all, otherwise they are doomed. And then when Apple does, they get sued for anti-trust issues.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
Apple's also leaving money on the table by not selling cinnamon raisin bread, raspberry wheat beer, and trips to the moon.
"leaving money on the table" is a stupid reason to push for a change in strategy.
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Savory indeed!
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Originally Posted by GQB
An iPad mini 'phone' with the bluetooth earphone that I already use 100% of the time, and I'm in.
It's called SKYPE
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Originally Posted by herbapou
If apple doesnt have a big screen when my contract expires, i am buying a nexus phone. And i am not alone
There definitely is a market for a larger screen iPhone.
I know a few people who bought the Samsung S for it's larger screen. They admit they put up with shorter battery charge life and other android weaknesses.
I find the iPhone size fine, but not all have my very good close vision.
I find those who like the larger screen, definitely don't have my very good close vision. I prefer the higher quality iPhone screen, they don't notice the difference.
My suggestion is slightly less than 5" and greater than 4.5", perhaps about 4.7".
Yes but not as a replacement. If there's money to be made Apple will enter the category.
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Originally Posted by saarek
I’m genuinely curious as to why you want a phone with a bigger display? Everyone I have seen with a large Android device pressed against their heads looks like absolute twats. I can understand wanting a bigger display for content such as games/books/movies etc but then why wouldn’t you just get an iPad?
Apple has explained why they went for the 4” display, it’s the biggest they could go and still maintain one handed operation.
I find it rather easy to operate my 4.6" galaxy Nexus with one hand. I am 6'-4" with big hands and simply find the iPhone too small...
I Started with Android because i have to use Verizon, but I stayed with it because I simply liked the screen and size of the Galaxy Nexus over the iPhone 4 which was the iPhone at the time. I can't see the 1/2" added to the bottom of the iPhone 5 much of a reason to switch to the iPhone...
Seven people at my office got new phones in the last two months of the year. All but one got Galaxy phones over iPhones (Two Switched from iPhone 4).
Apple is losing customers over this issue...
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Originally Posted by massconn72
I just think it's too damn big. Put that in your back pocket, and see how fast it is stolen in a crowd?
I keep my galaxy Nexus in my front pocket. Why do people always have to put the phone in their rear pockets????
I never understood the reasoning on that one....
I need a bigger screen because i do a lot of internet on my phone and i need something between a tablet and a small phone for the job. I also would like a bigger screen because i cant see well at short distance now. I used low prescription glass for reading but i dont carry those all the time. 5" phones are here to stay, regardless of the people you thinks that because they dont need them, nobody needs them.
Another thing i like about the nexus 4 is its only 360$ unlock. Its the most popular phone at my work place amount people shopping for a new phone.
Indeed. Most of the android devices dont have well balance specs and often have huge bottlenecks. But the nexus 4 is very well design and balance allowing a very nice price for what you get. Imo its beats the crap out of the more expensive iphone 4 and iphone 4s. To top it off I think android as leap over iOS in terms of innovation and power, making it a better OS for the moment.
It makes wonder what the hell is apple doing? They are sitting on pile of cash and not doing much of anything with it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvin
A few people saying 'I want one' isn't enough to be the right reason. There would have to be significant market demand, which isn't demonstrated in the sales figures when the iPhone 5 outsells all of them:
Oh... so the iPhone 4 and the iPhone 4S weren't selling that well so Apple brought out the 4" iPhone 5 to compete with the larger phones that were selling well...
Indeed. If I ever buy an android device its going to be a Nexus, I want something i can upgrade without dealing with manufacturers layers on top of android.
I'm sure Apple isn't gonna spend money just to spend it. Why waste 12.5 billion on a has-been mobile device company?
Btw, you prob mean Android 4.2 is better because most Android devices are stuck at 2.x.
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Originally Posted by theCore
Natural evolution- the screen should be larger- Apple must IMO, develop a slightly larger form factor for a variety of reasons.
When the Iphone was released it was a huge step forward in many ways. Today, the small screen lacks.
Reasons- Typing accuracy, eyesight limitations, ease of use etc, visual real estate. Slimmer, lighter phones can easily handle the larger screen.
No point in letting other companies get a leg up.
Apple should evolve to a 5" screen size, its a natural direction. Lets call it "Guy-phone"- for those of us with big mitts.
Those seeking smaller form factor- a wrist worn repeater would do the trick. I truly hope Apple is developing, that too, is a natural direction. Again, no point in letting other companies..........
I agree and have noticed many women have trouble holding the 4.5" and larger phones.
Even with my large hand the Samsung S3 is a handful, the largest phone I could safely hold.
If it's not this issue it's another:
No cheap feature phone for developing markets
No NFC chip
No SD card slot
No OLED screen with PenTile
No quad core CPU
No removable battery
No side loading of apps
No Android
All with the same justification: "Android is winning! Samsung is winning! Tim Cook needs to copy them to stay competitive!"