Huh? The survey made no claim to be a comparison of Android vs. iOS. It reported the degree of satisfaction users felt with their phones. It turns out that users of four other phones reported being happier with their choice than people who bought iPhone 5s.
Of course, we don't know who or what was asked or how, so it's a pointless report, like pretty much any similar report (including those that reflect more positively on Apple).
Anyway, if you want a comparison of OS satisfaction, you're looking at the wrong report.
What is puzzling is that if this was a random test why wouldn't the Samsung phones be included since they sell far more than the others and have the same software.
That's precisely my point. As the number of Android phones with large screens is now already higher than the number of iPhones being sold, we'll see Android gains in internet usage.
If you posted some evidence to that effect I certainly didn't see it. If you could post it again I'd certainly appreciate it, as well as what you define as a large screen.
Also, I can see the logic of a larger screen being better for internet usage but anecdotally I use my iPhone for internet usage a lot more than my iPad, which is mostly used for apps that may or may not use the internet. In fact, I have used my cellular so little on my iPad (500MB for nearly a year) that I finally dropped the $10 month fee for adding it to my phone account. I can tether via my iPhone if needed, but that's just it, I don't need.
What is puzzling is that if this was a random test why wouldn't the Samsung phones be included since they sell far more than the others and have the same software.
Satisfaction wasn't as high. They were in the survey, but ranked lower than the phones pictured. And in comparisons I've seen of brands, HTC is the highest rated Android manufacturer (and Apple is the highest overall).
Maybe you should read the article before posting. The conclusion is:
Samscum's entire business model has been quite simply, take what Apple started and make it bigger and flashier. That model will not serve them well forever, Apple will shift the goal posts again.
Does it look the same to their previous phones to you? It does to me...
It does, but then Apple gets accused of that all the time, especially on their second run of the same styling like with the 3GS, 4S, and presumably 5S. Based on what I've seen I think it's a good update for those that like the Galaxy S III.
I don't remember - something like 6 months. But the point is that you'll get updates for your iPhone. Odds are slim that you'll get updates for your Android phone.
The discussion is not about Android phones in general, but flagship Samsung phones, and they do get updates
I'm not sure what side of the fence you are on with your comment so I'll post a general reply. The Galaxy S IV will ship with 4.2.2 which came out 11-FEB-2013. That's only 30 days ago.
As for only being an incremental update from 4.0 this is where I take issue with Google's odd numbering and naming conventions. 4.0 is API Level 14, 4.0.3 starts API Level 15, 4.1 starts API Level 16, and 4.2, from last November, starts API Level 17. No matter how you slice it this device is not being released with a year old OS.
I guess you factor in the 2nd quarter release which adds 0.5 to 3.5 months to that 30 day prior release cycle but that's still great for an Android device, even a high-end Android device, and with the success of the Galaxy S III I think anyone who wants to buy a large screen Android-based phone with OS updates should look into the Galaxy S IV. I don't see any reason the numbers won't be there to make it advantageous for Samsung to keep this device updated for a year or two after it goes on sale.
API Levels are not representative of a New OS. Their next full update will be 5.0. Each of their major updates includes at Kernel update. 2.2 was Linux kernel 2.6.32 4.0 was Linux kernel 3.0.1.
Since Linux is up to 3.8 they should be doing a full update soon. As far as keeping it up to date for 2 to 3 years they may have already moved to the OS they are working on by then. Updating would mean you were still attached to Google for services so to update you would come to them.
The GS4 is the same width, slightly shorter, and .7mm thinner than its predecessor. So even with a bigger display they did manage to slightly shrink the size.
That is not a new OS. It is a minor update, like iOS' update two weeks ago. Android 4.0 is the last major update which was a year an a half ago. A year before iOS 6.
No, 4.2 was the last major version, released late last year.
API Levels are not representative of a New OS. Their next full update will be 5.0. Each of their major updates includes at Kernel update. 2.2 was Linux kernel 2.6.32 4.0 was <span style="font-family:sans-serif;line-height:19px;">Linux kernel 3.0.1.</span>
<span style="line-height:19px;">Since Linux is up to 3.8 they should be doing a full update soon. As far as keeping it up to date for 2 to 3 years they may have already moved to the OS they are working on by then. Updating would mean you were still attached to Google for services so to update you would come to them. </span>
If you add new APIs you add new things that developers can do that they couldn't do before without creating their own solutions. I'm not saying that 4.2 over 4.0 is the same jump as 4.0 fom 3.0 but it's a different OS and to say that 4.2.2 somehow means Schiller was right, especially when there is no 5.0 from Google is being disingenuous.
I don't even know where to begin with the argument that a kernel update is required for it to be an OS update.
That's precisely my point. As the number of Android phones with large screens is now already higher than the number of iPhones being sold, we'll see Android gains in internet usage.
Where are the figures that back this statement up?
What real world data shows is exactly the opposite.
Why can't people understand that the bulk of Android market share is made up of cheap and low end devices.
Samsung released figures for it's high end phones, 30,000,000 in a little over two years, assuming another 10-20 million since then, these make up a small fraction of Android phones sold, of the touted "marketshare", the daily "activations".
It's as if people don't want to believe this simple fact, instead choosing to base observations on their own life experiences not those of the majority of Android customers.
It's inevitable that Samsung will surpass iPhone sales in the US for good (not just around release). The iPhone is no longer the cool because everyone's moms and dads have them. Also, Justin Long, the artsy guy or coffee baristas with iPhone are also no longer cool.
Samsung has Lebron James, etc....
Surely this is sarcasm. The SG3 couldn't beat the two y.o. iPhone 4. I can't stand LBJ. I don't remember a TV show about his smartphone decision. Sammy probably paid for his endorsement while other "cool" people bought iPhones on their own and Apple thought to put them in commercials.
CNN reports it will be released at the end of April. 16GB/$199 32GB/$249 64GB/$299
As far as lower web use on Android, do these surveys include data accessed from apps or just browsers? I tend to use apps for accessing data on the web more than I use Safari. I have news apps, movie apps, restaurant apps, you name it. Many times easier to use a specific app than open Safari and search. Like they say there is an app for that. I imagine Android users are the same. I wonder for example if you use the CNN or pulse news app for example would that get counted in the statistics as an iOS or Android device in these surveys for browsing the web.
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Don't know but you would think people will surf the web regardless of apps. There isn't an app for every individual website.
If you add new APIs you add new things that developers can do that they couldn't do before without creating their own solutions. I'm not saying that 4.2 over 4.0 is the same jump as 4.0 fom 3.0 but it's a different OS and to say that 4.2.2 somehow means Schiller was right, especially when there is no 5.0 from Google is being disingenuous.
I don't even know where to begin with the argument that a kernel update is required for it to be an OS update.
I think Schiller is wrong. The SG4 will be on the latest OS version. You can't spin that. However who knows when it will be on the next update.
I think Schiller is wrong. The SG4 will be on the latest OS version. You can't spin that. However who knows when it will be on the next update.
I think the chances of Samsung keeping it up to date are high as I expect the unit sales and margins will warrant it. You still need to wait for Samsung to vet the OS after Google releases it but it will be as timely as one can expect from a vendor using Android.
Man, I have been a reading of AI for years now... I DO WANT TO SEE articles like this, I come here for news, not only on Apple but for also to learn what the challenges are... whats going on with the #1 competitor, there is nothing wrong... AI is no less AI. Do you think REAL Apple insiders are NOT talking about this in Cupertino? like... RIGHT at the time the S4 was being launched?
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Originally Posted by v5v
Huh? The survey made no claim to be a comparison of Android vs. iOS. It reported the degree of satisfaction users felt with their phones. It turns out that users of four other phones reported being happier with their choice than people who bought iPhone 5s.
Of course, we don't know who or what was asked or how, so it's a pointless report, like pretty much any similar report (including those that reflect more positively on Apple).
Anyway, if you want a comparison of OS satisfaction, you're looking at the wrong report.
What is puzzling is that if this was a random test why wouldn't the Samsung phones be included since they sell far more than the others and have the same software.
If you posted some evidence to that effect I certainly didn't see it. If you could post it again I'd certainly appreciate it, as well as what you define as a large screen.
Also, I can see the logic of a larger screen being better for internet usage but anecdotally I use my iPhone for internet usage a lot more than my iPad, which is mostly used for apps that may or may not use the internet. In fact, I have used my cellular so little on my iPad (500MB for nearly a year) that I finally dropped the $10 month fee for adding it to my phone account. I can tether via my iPhone if needed, but that's just it, I don't need.
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Originally Posted by genovelle
What is puzzling is that if this was a random test why wouldn't the Samsung phones be included since they sell far more than the others and have the same software.
Satisfaction wasn't as high. They were in the survey, but ranked lower than the phones pictured. And in comparisons I've seen of brands, HTC is the highest rated Android manufacturer (and Apple is the highest overall).
Try harder next time.
Well, it is not made for 3 years old. And older kids usually can wipe their ***** on their own.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
Maybe you should read the article before posting. The conclusion is:
Samscum's entire business model has been quite simply, take what Apple started and make it bigger and flashier. That model will not serve them well forever, Apple will shift the goal posts again.
Samsung's days of innovation are over . . . SELL!
It does, but then Apple gets accused of that all the time, especially on their second run of the same styling like with the 3GS, 4S, and presumably 5S. Based on what I've seen I think it's a good update for those that like the Galaxy S III.
The discussion is not about Android phones in general, but flagship Samsung phones, and they do get updates
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
I'm not sure what side of the fence you are on with your comment so I'll post a general reply. The Galaxy S IV will ship with 4.2.2 which came out 11-FEB-2013. That's only 30 days ago.
As for only being an incremental update from 4.0 this is where I take issue with Google's odd numbering and naming conventions. 4.0 is API Level 14, 4.0.3 starts API Level 15, 4.1 starts API Level 16, and 4.2, from last November, starts API Level 17. No matter how you slice it this device is not being released with a year old OS.
I guess you factor in the 2nd quarter release which adds 0.5 to 3.5 months to that 30 day prior release cycle but that's still great for an Android device, even a high-end Android device, and with the success of the Galaxy S III I think anyone who wants to buy a large screen Android-based phone with OS updates should look into the Galaxy S IV. I don't see any reason the numbers won't be there to make it advantageous for Samsung to keep this device updated for a year or two after it goes on sale.
API Levels are not representative of a New OS. Their next full update will be 5.0. Each of their major updates includes at Kernel update. 2.2 was Linux kernel 2.6.32 4.0 was Linux kernel 3.0.1.
Since Linux is up to 3.8 they should be doing a full update soon. As far as keeping it up to date for 2 to 3 years they may have already moved to the OS they are working on by then. Updating would mean you were still attached to Google for services so to update you would come to them.
The GS4 is the same width, slightly shorter, and .7mm thinner than its predecessor. So even with a bigger display they did manage to slightly shrink the size.
No, 4.2 was the last major version, released late last year.
If you add new APIs you add new things that developers can do that they couldn't do before without creating their own solutions. I'm not saying that 4.2 over 4.0 is the same jump as 4.0 fom 3.0 but it's a different OS and to say that 4.2.2 somehow means Schiller was right, especially when there is no 5.0 from Google is being disingenuous.
I don't even know where to begin with the argument that a kernel update is required for it to be an OS update.
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Originally Posted by Hands Sandon
That's precisely my point. As the number of Android phones with large screens is now already higher than the number of iPhones being sold, we'll see Android gains in internet usage.
Where are the figures that back this statement up?
What real world data shows is exactly the opposite.
Why can't people understand that the bulk of Android market share is made up of cheap and low end devices.
Samsung released figures for it's high end phones, 30,000,000 in a little over two years, assuming another 10-20 million since then, these make up a small fraction of Android phones sold, of the touted "marketshare", the daily "activations".
It's as if people don't want to believe this simple fact, instead choosing to base observations on their own life experiences not those of the majority of Android customers.
Surely this is sarcasm. The SG3 couldn't beat the two y.o. iPhone 4. I can't stand LBJ. I don't remember a TV show about his smartphone decision. Sammy probably paid for his endorsement while other "cool" people bought iPhones on their own and Apple thought to put them in commercials.
Don't know but you would think people will surf the web regardless of apps. There isn't an app for every individual website.
I think Schiller is wrong. The SG4 will be on the latest OS version. You can't spin that. However who knows when it will be on the next update.
I think the chances of Samsung keeping it up to date are high as I expect the unit sales and margins will warrant it. You still need to wait for Samsung to vet the OS after Google releases it but it will be as timely as one can expect from a vendor using Android.
Man, I have been a reading of AI for years now... I DO WANT TO SEE articles like this, I come here for news, not only on Apple but for also to learn what the challenges are... whats going on with the #1 competitor, there is nothing wrong... AI is no less AI. Do you think REAL Apple insiders are NOT talking about this in Cupertino? like... RIGHT at the time the S4 was being launched?
Come on now!