Apple buys 'indoor GPS' company WifiSLAM for $20M

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  • Reply 61 of 82
    aderutteraderutter Posts: 640member
    rob53, that's a cool idea and Apple should implement that as a feature.

    I also see this as useful for home/work use, e.g. specific reminders when I walk into my home office, versus reminders when I walk into my bedroom, or work office or meeting rooms : down to the room level not just the current wifi "address". I currently use location-based reminders but I wish they were more location-precise.
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  • Reply 62 of 82
    elmsleyelmsley Posts: 120member
    Cool. Now after I'm through with my $500 million dollar heist, I can use my app to determine the best possible exit strategy out of the bank safes, without any pre-planning. Is there a security guard detector add-on?
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  • Reply 63 of 82
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    elmsley wrote: »
    Is there a security guard detector add-on?

    Maybe as an in-app purchase?
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  • Reply 64 of 82

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    Is Dick a nickname for Dave or am I missing something?


     


    You had to be there!

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  • Reply 65 of 82

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    Originally Posted by Dave MacLachlan View Post



    I can really appreciate the potential for this; I can also see a lot of reasons to be leery of how it could be abused. Part of that may be the generation gap in my case; I'm just not "social enough" to want to know what my friends are doing or where they're at at any given time.



    I'd rather see this being adapted for use as other people have mentioned - mapping hospitals, malls, museums, etc. But, I'm realistic enough to know that things will develop in so many ways I can't even begin to predict or imagine. Time will tell whether or not they're good directions or not.


    Hi Dick,

    I'm sitting right now in Prague airport trying to figure out where the kiosk is for me to check in to my Lufthansa flight. Would be great to have built-in to my European Navigon stand-alone GPS app a version for navigating the airport, complete with flight status updates on the fly should I have cell or wifi coverage, of course, all tied into Apple's Passbook. A boon for frequent travellers and Apple geeks alike! Dan


     


    Hi Dan,


     


    You're really confusing forum members by replying to Dave's posts with "Hi Dick"...


     


    See what you get for the flying commercial, Ha!


     


    Years ago, a friend let me take control of his Debonaire after we took off from Long Beach… It was quite an unnerving sensation flying over water when you couldn't easily see any land.

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  • Reply 66 of 82
    sol77sol77 Posts: 203member

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    I know you don't mean it, and by your previous comments on the forum it's probably just because you are incredibly old but … this is one offensive, sexist post.  


     


    Only "housewives" shop for groceries? (until some dude want to "pick up a girl" I guess) image


     


    I think you should leave the 1960's behind once in a while and think about what life is like today.  





    Exactly what is sexist about this?  I think what is necessary is for you to join a reasonable discussion.  The younger generation has grown up with absurd definitions of sexism and racism.  I could be called a racist if a quote a statistic about a minority that seems unfavorable.  I could be called a sexist for saying, "housewives like to shop for groceries."  How is this sexist?  Do you think it is sexist that military commercials depict three soldiers, two of whom are women, when the actual ratio of women to men in the military is nothing close to this?  Housewives DO shop, and I challenge you to visit any Starbucks or Grocery store in the afternoon and put check marks next to men, women, and women of a particular age.  You will find a disproportionate number of women who fit that description.  Guess what?  Housewives not only exist, but their existence does not preclude the existence of house husbands...yet the fact remains that housewives are a statistically relevant proportion.  Do you deny that despite the self righteous "progressiveness" of our culture that housewives still outnumber househusbands by an obscene number?  Are you going to ignore this...is it inconvenient to your world view?  The other day my girlfriend and I (is it sexist to call her a girlfriend, since she is a woman?...) entered a Starbucks.  By "the other day" I mean last Thursday.  At 1pm.  I counted 5 men, including myself.  There were over thirty women...all of them middle aged.  And no, it wasn't a cohesive group.  They were out for the day.  My girlfriend, who has a Masters in Social Work, said, "wow, look at all the housewives."  I'm sorry..is that sexist?  Should she have said, "wow, look at all the people who by pure chance happen to be predominantly middle aged women, many of whom have strollers, and are here during normal business hours"?  Is that what she should have said? 


     


    First, you need to get beyond the idea that the word "Housewife" is equivalent to the "N" word.  It is a descriptive term, and true of a very, very large portion of the population.  Second, learn what sexism means.  Sexism means drawing DEFINITE conclusions about the cognitive potential, proclivities and inclinations of a person based on sex.  It's not sexism for me to say, "she probably won't work in construction."  "SHE" probably won't.  It's not sexism for me to say, "there are over thirty middle aged women in this Starbucks and only five men...the most likely scenario is not CHANCE.  Chance is 50/50.  Something is causing this.  Only an idiot would shield his eyes to the most likely, most common cultural scenario...these women are here because they live or work at home.  This is astronomically more likely than saying, "more women like to take a lunch break at Starbucks than men." 


     


    Facts are facts.  By calling it sexist, you admit to having a negative opinion of Housewives.  That's their choice.  It's not a choice I would make if I were a woman, nor one my girlfriend would or has made, but it is their choice. 


     


    He was profiling...if there are disproportionate numbers of a particular gender or ethnic group in a given location, there's a reason.  He wasn't casting judgement on the reason, and you, little boy, need to learn the difference.  You need to learn that it's not "living in the sixties versus living in the self righteous we know everything because it just happens to be the present year."  If profiling is wrong, why did you assume he was OLD?  So...you're age bigotted?  Is that what I should accuse you of?


     


    Get over it.  Housewives shop, hang out at the store, stand in the aisles, congregate at Starbucks with their strollers, and nothing you can do about it makes it good, bad, immoral, or sexist.  There is a HUGE proportion of the population that is a housewife.  Or...do you think women far outnumber men at grocery stores in the afternoon during working hours because all those women just happen to live closer to a grocery store by chance?  Stop letting your superficial understanding of ideology wars make your observations for you.  Open your eyes the next time you're in a Starbucks or grocery store during business hours on a weekday.  Make your OWN observations.  Do some very quick and easy research on google.  Try to come up with another valid reason why there might be a disproportionate number of women at those places in the afternoon.  Let me know what ridiculous thing you come up with.


     


    The only person who brought judgment to the table is you.  Take a good look in the mirror.  No, it's not the sixties...and guess what?  Women are still housewives a very large proportion of the time, and living closer to the grocery store than men is not a statistically sound observation.  Get real.  And please don't throw statistics about women in the workforce.  The argument isn't, "women are usually housewives."  The argument is, "women are still housewives far, far more often than men are, and this is a reasonable statistic to rely on when judging why there are thirty middle aged women to five men at a store in the afternoon."


     


    Young people wield accusations of sexism and bigotry are like a kid with his father's gun.  That thing is loaded, kid.  Know what it is you're slinging around.

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  • Reply 67 of 82
    bagmanbagman Posts: 349member
    Hi Dan,

    You're really confusing forum members by replying to Dave's posts with "Hi Dick"...

    See what you get for the flying commercial, Ha!

    Years ago, a friend let me take control of his Debonaire after we took off from Long Beach… It was quite an unnerving sensation flying over water when you couldn't easily see any land.

    Sorry bout that. I just emailed a vivid Google map of our position over Iceland at 38,000 ft. Google maps were indispensable on my trip to Europe. Never needed cell or wifi coverage really - just downloaded Google map of the current region at hotel or wifi hotspot along the way, along with planned public transit, and GPS was quite enough to never get lost even without cell or wifi. Along with Navigon app, I was always "situationally aware" as we pilots like to say. Being able to zoom in and out in Google maps was something of beauty in every city I visited and was vastly improved with new graphics rendering. I don't like flying over water either, and always stay within gliding range, as you remember from your training. My Bonanza is being rebuilt and repainted as we speak, due to unfortunate engine outage last July. Landed in cornfield, which almost totally destroyed all bodywork and engine -- ouch. Not hurt thank God. Take care.
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  • Reply 68 of 82


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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post


     


    I know you don't mean it, and by your previous comments on the forum it's probably just because you are incredibly old but … this is one offensive, sexist post.  


     


    Only "housewives" shop for groceries? (until some dude want to "pick up a girl" I guess) image


     


    I think you should leave the 1960's behind once in a while and think about what life is like today.  





    Exactly what is sexist about this? 


     


    ...


     


    Housewives shop, hang out at the store, stand in the aisles, congregate at Starbucks with their strollers, and nothing you can do about it makes it good, bad, immoral, or sexist.  There is a HUGE proportion of the population that is a housewife.  Or...do you think women far outnumber men at grocery stores in the afternoon during working hours because all those women just happen to live closer to a grocery store by chance?


     


    ...



     


    It is kind of interesting that the businesspersons responsible for supermarket site selection and staffing:



    • build the supermarkets close to where the "housewives" live


    • schedule the supermarkets shifts so that most employees are available when the "housewives" are likely to be shopping/socializing

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  • Reply 69 of 82
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    v5v wrote: »

    Unfortunately Ireland, HOW to do it is always kept secret by those who know. They don't want the proletariat getting too uppity. ;)

    1) By me stating that it's possible is pretty much the opposite of keeping it a secret.

    2) I think the thumb-up icon is a big enough clue for Ireland. If not, TS gave him additional info about using the mobile version of the site which seems odd he wouldn't know exists by now.
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  • Reply 70 of 82
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    You had to be there!

    Based on this thread I would have had to be hanging out with Timothy Leary.
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  • Reply 71 of 82
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    gazoobee wrote: »
    I know you don't mean it, and by your previous comments on the forum it's probably just because you are incredibly old but … this is one offensive, sexist post.  

    Only "housewives" shop for groceries? (until some dude want to "pick up a girl" I guess) :rolleyes:

    I think you should leave the 1960's behind once in a while and think about what life is like today.  

    I would think your "so incredibly old" comment comes across as more offensive than his outmoded generalities of grocery shoppers. Dick's* comment wasn't negative toward housewives but your attitude toward not just old people, but incredibly old people is more curious. Dick is intelligent, funny and quick that he certainly breaks the mold of all the septuagenarian I recall interacting with.



    * Wait, am I suppose to call him Dan now? I'm so confused¡
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  • Reply 72 of 82

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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post



    You had to be there!




    Based on this thread I would have had to be hanging out with Timothy Leary.


     


    Well, it goes back to the iP4.  Bagman bought one, around release day, and couldn't get a reliable cell signal.  He didn't want to buy a case, wanted the iPhone and tried everything -- bouncing bad and forth (to and fro, hither and yon, sturm und drang, dos y dos, Frick and Frack) between AT&T and Apple -- showing each that he got lousy reception... and no satisfaction!


     


    AIR, he joined AI to state his problem and see if he could find a solution from the "experts" -- he really liked the iPhone and didn't want to diminish it with a case.


     


    Of, course, he was immediately attacked by us, the AI regulars, as a heretic and a troll... how dare he badmouth perfect  Apple iPhone 4


     


    In fact he was a mature individual with a problem -- seeking a solution rather than just abandoning the issue and moving on.


     


    Several of us engaged him in reasoned dialog and, honestly, we had to admit that there was a problem with the iP4.


     


    I don't remember what the exact resolution was -- but AIR, Bagman kept the iP4, has since bought newer model(s) and at least one iPad -- which he uses for Air Flight Navigation as a private pilot.


     


    As an Apple fan, supporter, evangelist, shareholder, and a person -- I am happy with the outcome!


     


     


    (I'm so lonely ;)

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  • Reply 73 of 82
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    Well, it goes back to the iP4.  Bagman bought one, around release day, and couldn't get a reliable cell signal.  He didn't want to buy a case, wanted the iPhone and tried everything -- bouncing bad and forth (to and fro, hither and yon, sturm und drang, dos y dos, Frick and Frack) between AT&T and Apple -- showing each that he got lousy reception... and no satisfaction!

    AIR, he joined AI to state his problem and see if he could find a solution from the "experts" -- he really liked the iPhone and didn't want to diminish it with a case.

    Of, course, he was immediately attacked by us, the AI regulars, as a heretic and a troll... how dare he badmouth perfect  Apple iPhone 4

    In fact he was a mature individual with a problem -- seeking a solution rather than just abandoning the issue and moving on.

    Several of us engaged him in reasoned dialog and, honestly, we had to admit that there was a problem with the iP4.

    I don't remember what the exact resolution was -- but AIR, Bagman kept the iP4, has since bought newer model(s) and at least one iPad -- which he uses for Air Flight Navigation as a private pilot.

    As an Apple fan, supporter, evangelist, shareholder, and a person -- I am happy with the outcome!


    (I'm so lonely ;)

    1) You have an amazing memory and gift for words, Old Man. :D

    2) To my credit: http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/111010/apple-sued-over-iphone-4-reception-issues/320#post_1666704
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  • Reply 74 of 82

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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post



    Hi Dan,



    You're really confusing forum members by replying to Dave's posts with "Hi Dick"...



    See what you get for the flying commercial, Ha!



    Years ago, a friend let me take control of his Debonaire after we took off from Long Beach… It was quite an unnerving sensation flying over water when you couldn't easily see any land.




    Sorry bout that. I just emailed a vivid Google map of our position over Iceland at 38,000 ft. Google maps were indispensable on my trip to Europe. Never needed cell or wifi coverage really - just downloaded Google map of the current region at hotel or wifi hotspot along the way, along with planned public transit, and GPS was quite enough to never get lost even without cell or wifi. Along with Navigon app, I was always "situationally aware" as we pilots like to say. Being able to zoom in and out in Google maps was something of beauty in every city I visited and was vastly improved with new graphics rendering. I don't like flying over water either, and always stay within gliding range, as you remember from your training. My Bonanza is being rebuilt and repainted as we speak, due to unfortunate engine outage last July. Landed in cornfield, which almost totally destroyed all bodywork and engine -- ouch. Not hurt thank God. Take care.


     


    Pappy Beale, my flight instructor had 10,000 hours and was pretty set in his ways -- e.g., teaching spins, though not required.  We flew out of El Monte, CA airport with some weird logistics.  I remember, I was on my final with Pappy in the back seat -- he jerked the stick so we were over a dry river bed parallel to the runway... then he cut the power...   we were heading for a freeway bridge that spanned the river bed.


     


    "Whatcha' gonna' do?" asked Pappy.


     


    I said I don't know -- try to make it over the freeway and land on the other side...


     


    Pappy said: "You'll never make it... just fly under the bridge and center the plane so it knocks the wings off."


     


    Then, he goosed the throttle!


     


     


    That's as close as I came to an unplanned landing...


     


     


    It's great that you were able to use Google Maps as you describe -- I wish Apple Maps had been up to the job!

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  • Reply 75 of 82

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    * Wait, am I suppose to call him Dan now? I'm so confused¡


     


    I would call him Tommy...

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  • Reply 76 of 82

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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post



    Well, it goes back to the iP4.  Bagman bought one, around release day, and couldn't get a reliable cell signal.  He didn't want to buy a case, wanted the iPhone and tried everything -- bouncing bad and forth (to and fro, hither and yon, sturm und drang, dos y dos, Frick and Frack) between AT&T and Apple -- showing each that he got lousy reception... and no satisfaction!



    AIR, he joined AI to state his problem and see if he could find a solution from the "experts" -- he really liked the iPhone and didn't want to diminish it with a case.



    Of, course, he was immediately attacked by us, the AI regulars, as a heretic and a troll... how dare he badmouth perfect  Apple iPhone 4



    In fact he was a mature individual with a problem -- seeking a solution rather than just abandoning the issue and moving on.



    Several of us engaged him in reasoned dialog and, honestly, we had to admit that there was a problem with the iP4.



    I don't remember what the exact resolution was -- but AIR, Bagman kept the iP4, has since bought newer model(s) and at least one iPad -- which he uses for Air Flight Navigation as a private pilot.



    As an Apple fan, supporter, evangelist, shareholder, and a person -- I am happy with the outcome!





    (I'm so lonely image




    1) You have an amazing memory and gift for words, Old Man. image



    2) To my credit: http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/111010/apple-sued-over-iphone-4-reception-issues/320#post_1666704


     


    I don't mind being called old -- it's all I got... considering the alternative!


     


    (are we on twitter?)

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  • Reply 77 of 82
    stelligentstelligent Posts: 2,680member

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    Is Dick a nickname for Dave or am I missing something?


    I am getting confused with Dick, Dave and Dan. Is today D-day?

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  • Reply 78 of 82
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,772member
    stelligent wrote: »
    I am getting confused with Dick, Dave and Dan. Is today D-day?
    Don't think so
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  • Reply 79 of 82


    Now your boss can track and document your every move:  "You spent 20 minutes in the bathroom. What were you doing in there?"

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  • Reply 80 of 82
    banchobancho Posts: 1,517member

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    Now your boss can track and document your every move:  "You spent 20 minutes in the bathroom. What were you doing in there?"



     


    Pooping.


     


    Clearly I need more fiber. :|

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