I think the market changes too fast for Steve Jobs to have put his seal of approval on much of anything that comes out in the future. He may have given certain broad strokes nods of general positive interest, but that is not the same thing. I base my opinion on the quickly evolving market. Case-in-point is the iPad Mini. Steve Jobs knocked the 7" iPad size, then Apple delivered a 7.85" iPad. Pretty sure Apple adjusted to the lower-cost and smaller Android tablets on that one. And smartly so.
I think the market changes too fast for Steve Jobs to have put his seal of approval on much of anything that comes out in the future. He may have given certain broad strokes nods of general positive interest, but that is not the same thing. I base my opinion on the quickly evolving market. Case-in-point is the iPad Mini. Steve Jobs knocked the 7" iPad size, then Apple delivered a 7.85" iPad. Pretty sure Apple adjusted to the lower-cost and smaller Android tablets on that one. And smartly so.
Actually: Steve Jobs called the 7" tablets the "most credible" of the avalanche of Android tablets he addressed in Oct 2010. Two years later Apple shipped its own smaller tablet, but not using a widescreen 7" form factor, nor with any other other issues Jobs critically detailed as reasons those devices would (and did) flop.
Saying that Apple had to "read the market" for two years before it came up with the idea of a smaller tablet is just absurd. Apple certainly had the ability to make a smaller tablet that looked like the original iPad. It just chose to release a Retina Display model first, establish itself as the leader in tablets while Google delayed Android with the distraction of Honeycomb, and then develop to tooling capable of making the iPhone 5 alongside the iPod touch and iPod mini that also use it.
Had Apple shipped a mini earlier, it likely would have looked more like the earlier 7" tablets in thickness and weight. Waiting until it could deliver a strongly differentiated model is the way Apple does things. No iPod phone, no Neo-MessagePad, no MacBook with a touch screen.
Apple didn't need to copy "smaller Android tablets" to arrive at the idea that a smaller iPad might sell. First off, the Android tablets *weren't* selling well! And if Apple needed some precedent to stumble on to the obvious idea of smaller form factors, it could have found that inspiration in its own closet with the handheld tablet it had released two decades prior. That Newton MessagePad had inspired both the Palm Pilot, which introduced the first big screen smartphone with the now familiar grid of icons interface, and Microsoft's WinCE efforts to create PDAs, then phones, and then its Windows Tablet initiatives (all of which failed).
The slagging of Cook has reached ridiculous levels. The corp. is still one of the most friggin' successful on the planet. Not to mention that Cook has been w/ Apple since Jobs' 1997 return and was, off and on, running Apple over the past decade.
Had to shake my head over the theft issue. Cities to Apple: do our job for us. Users to Apple: do my job for me.
How about municipalities prosecute thieves when they catch them and actually sentence them to jail time? How about users stop, look, pay attention to their surroundings and keep track of their expensive toys?
``Jobs passed away the day before Apple unveiled iPhone 4S in late 2011. That indicates Jobs had known about the design of next three generations of iPhones following it.''
I mentioned all designs are 18-36 months in design and development before they hit the pipelines. All I can say to this man is, ``Duh.''
``Jobs passed away the day before Apple unveiled iPhone 4S in late 2011. That indicates Jobs had known about the design of next three generations of iPhones following it.''
I mentioned all designs are 18-36 months in design and development before they hit the pipelines. All I can say to this man is, ``Duh.''
I thought it was the day after?
Well apple of course had it planned through 5, I figure that the last one Jobs designed is going to be as major as the first iPhone compared to current market.
Very believable to me. I work for a pretty large organization and they already have road maps for 2016-2017. And that's in the insurance sector.
SJ left a game plan, it isn't hard for me to believe that plan was 2-3 years out.
I agree, if not longer. I would imagine there are products he was working on that couldn't be made until certain technologies advanced sufficiently. I wouldn't be surprised if there are product a decade out he put in motion. SJ was a visionary not a an R&D guy.
You really don't. theverge.com is arguably the most anti-Apple website on the Internet and that says volumes about the quality of the journalism and membership, in my opinion.
How is Obamacare impacting those 2010 five year insurance plans now?
I sort of think tech industry is much like the pharm industry. You plant a lot of seeds and if you can harvest 10% of the crop, then you charge for it.
You really don't. theverge.com is arguably the most anti-Apple website on the Internet and that says volumes about the quality of the journalism and membership, in my opinion.
The Verge has some of the best tech journalism available today, and are hardly biased against Apple. They always give Apple products glowing reviews. I can't believe you want to call out the quality of journalism on The Verge while using AppleInsider.
The features don't have to be done 5 years before they come out. If you guys knew anything about the development of a product, you'd know that products are often designed without the finished parts. Basically you can lay out a road map for 5 years by looking at where technology will be in 5 years. Clearly Jobs could not do everything but he trusted Cook to handle the fine print. As far as the basics of the iPhone 5S/6. I can assume that the development was well along 3 years ago.
Sony started developing the Playstation 4 in 2006. HOW COULD THEY DESIGN SOMETHING 7 years ago (probably 6 when it was well moving). How? Because you can look at where technology will be based on other companies roadmaps.
That's why they work for these companies and you all don't.
I am sure they have plans for the iPhone 8 surfacing already with the iPhone 6s or 7 well into basic development
What apple needs to do is a device driver that only can be synced with iTunes and for the user with the devices apple ID to be signed in on the machine for a restore to be aloud. And if the phone is reported stolen with find my iPhone, the DFU mode should be disabled from the bios.
The next two generation I assume is iPhone 5s and iPhone 6? That would last us till 2014. As big an Apple and Steve Jobs fan as I am, I found it hard to believe Steve Jobs signs off something 4 years ahead of time. In this business, 4 year is a long time and many technologies didn't exist in 2011 could appear. Think about it: 4 years ago we were still using the iPhone 3. Could all the features on the current iPhone 5 already been developed and finished when Apple was selling iPhone 3?
It's not that the iPhone 5 was laying there finished waiting for Apple to sell four years of iPhones prior to it, but the design was already charted out years in advance.
When Jobs died, the Daily Mail wrote, "He has also been overseeing the development of the delayed iCloud project, which will allow Apple users to store their music, photos and other documents remotely and masterminding updated versions of the iPod, iPad, iPhone and MacBooks, ensuring at least four years’ worth of products are in the pipeline, according to Apple sources."
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Originally Posted by stynkfysh
I think the market changes too fast for Steve Jobs to have put his seal of approval on much of anything that comes out in the future. He may have given certain broad strokes nods of general positive interest, but that is not the same thing. I base my opinion on the quickly evolving market. Case-in-point is the iPad Mini. Steve Jobs knocked the 7" iPad size, then Apple delivered a 7.85" iPad. Pretty sure Apple adjusted to the lower-cost and smaller Android tablets on that one. And smartly so.
Actually: Steve Jobs called the 7" tablets the "most credible" of the avalanche of Android tablets he addressed in Oct 2010. Two years later Apple shipped its own smaller tablet, but not using a widescreen 7" form factor, nor with any other other issues Jobs critically detailed as reasons those devices would (and did) flop.
Saying that Apple had to "read the market" for two years before it came up with the idea of a smaller tablet is just absurd. Apple certainly had the ability to make a smaller tablet that looked like the original iPad. It just chose to release a Retina Display model first, establish itself as the leader in tablets while Google delayed Android with the distraction of Honeycomb, and then develop to tooling capable of making the iPhone 5 alongside the iPod touch and iPod mini that also use it.
Had Apple shipped a mini earlier, it likely would have looked more like the earlier 7" tablets in thickness and weight. Waiting until it could deliver a strongly differentiated model is the way Apple does things. No iPod phone, no Neo-MessagePad, no MacBook with a touch screen.
Apple didn't need to copy "smaller Android tablets" to arrive at the idea that a smaller iPad might sell. First off, the Android tablets *weren't* selling well! And if Apple needed some precedent to stumble on to the obvious idea of smaller form factors, it could have found that inspiration in its own closet with the handheld tablet it had released two decades prior. That Newton MessagePad had inspired both the Palm Pilot, which introduced the first big screen smartphone with the now familiar grid of icons interface, and Microsoft's WinCE efforts to create PDAs, then phones, and then its Windows Tablet initiatives (all of which failed).
Had to shake my head over the theft issue.
Cities to Apple: do our job for us.
Users to Apple: do my job for me.
How about municipalities prosecute thieves when they catch them and actually sentence them to jail time? How about users stop, look, pay attention to their surroundings and keep track of their expensive toys?
Originally Posted by auxio
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I mentioned all designs are 18-36 months in design and development before they hit the pipelines. All I can say to this man is, ``Duh.''
Well apple of course had it planned through 5, I figure that the last one Jobs designed is going to be as major as the first iPhone compared to current market.
I agree, if not longer. I would imagine there are products he was working on that couldn't be made until certain technologies advanced sufficiently. I wouldn't be surprised if there are product a decade out he put in motion. SJ was a visionary not a an R&D guy.
You really don't. theverge.com is arguably the most anti-Apple website on the Internet and that says volumes about the quality of the journalism and membership, in my opinion.
How is Obamacare impacting those 2010 five year insurance plans now?
I sort of think tech industry is much like the pharm industry. You plant a lot of seeds and if you can harvest 10% of the crop, then you charge for it.
Originally Posted by En Sabah Nur
Where can I read about this?
http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/151552/highly-confidential-ipad-iphone-prototypes-revealed-in-court-documents
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You really don't. theverge.com is arguably the most anti-Apple website on the Internet and that says volumes about the quality of the journalism and membership, in my opinion.
The Verge has some of the best tech journalism available today, and are hardly biased against Apple. They always give Apple products glowing reviews. I can't believe you want to call out the quality of journalism on The Verge while using AppleInsider.
The features don't have to be done 5 years before they come out. If you guys knew anything about the development of a product, you'd know that products are often designed without the finished parts. Basically you can lay out a road map for 5 years by looking at where technology will be in 5 years. Clearly Jobs could not do everything but he trusted Cook to handle the fine print. As far as the basics of the iPhone 5S/6. I can assume that the development was well along 3 years ago.
Sony started developing the Playstation 4 in 2006. HOW COULD THEY DESIGN SOMETHING 7 years ago (probably 6 when it was well moving). How? Because you can look at where technology will be based on other companies roadmaps.
That's why they work for these companies and you all don't.
I am sure they have plans for the iPhone 8 surfacing already with the iPhone 6s or 7 well into basic development
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Originally Posted by LeCorsaire
The next two generation I assume is iPhone 5s and iPhone 6? That would last us till 2014. As big an Apple and Steve Jobs fan as I am, I found it hard to believe Steve Jobs signs off something 4 years ahead of time. In this business, 4 year is a long time and many technologies didn't exist in 2011 could appear. Think about it: 4 years ago we were still using the iPhone 3. Could all the features on the current iPhone 5 already been developed and finished when Apple was selling iPhone 3?
It's not that the iPhone 5 was laying there finished waiting for Apple to sell four years of iPhones prior to it, but the design was already charted out years in advance.
When Jobs died, the Daily Mail wrote, "He has also been overseeing the development of the delayed iCloud project, which will allow Apple users to store their music, photos and other documents remotely and masterminding updated versions of the iPod, iPad, iPhone and MacBooks, ensuring at least four years’ worth of products are in the pipeline, according to Apple sources."
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2046397/Steve-Jobs-dead-Apple-boss-left-plans-4-years-new-products.html#ixzz2PG9OcXqL ;
Do you really think Apple starts designing new products a few months before production?