Agreed, the antenna design was "ambitious" but it was stretching the envelope and their cloud services have not been very well realized, yet.
But, my point is Apple is at the forefront of incorporating the latest tech and sw. Whereas, it's competitors are merely "copying" Apple's innovations (and poorly)....whether it be the iPhone, iPad, all-in-one iMac, MBA, iOS, Retina displays, etc., etc.
But where Apple really excels is the "ecosystem." Everyone else, and I do mean everyone, can't hold a candle to that. It's not all about money, profit and market share.
Sometimes it's about providing great customer value!
I feel ripped off by companies like Dell, HP, Samsung, RIM, Sony, MS, Google. They provide subpar products/services and because they are free, cheap or ad-based, I'm supposed to, somehow appreciate that.
Sorry about the "drivel" bit, I get a bit incensed by all the fanboism (of which you are not by a long shot the worst offender). As for the rest, I am not crazy about the ads in google searches, but google does need to make a living, and I don't know how we lived without google searches. As for Apple, they have a great system, but I feel ripped off because when you charging premium prices for the devices, why can't you make a decent antenna? Why must you gouge me for $$$ for stupid lightning cables (which give no performance advantage at the moment)? Why is the software buggy (with $150BN in the bank, can't they hire a few hundred more QA people?)? As for Samsung, what exactly is wrong with their products? Do you feel ripped off by Chevy because they don't make Ferraris? As a matter of fact, I am currently at a conference, and am renting a Camaro SS, which has all the features of my Audi (and MORE horsepower), for $15-20K (I am guessing) less retail. The features are not put together as well, I don't find the car anywhere near as pleasant to drive,and I would not trade my car for it (even if I got $20K back), but why should I resent Chevrolet? They did a very nice job on a budget. I am sure they copied a lot of the german (or japanese, who knows who did what first) features, but so what? It makes people happy, and puts more pressure on the premium vendors -- just as Samsung puts on Apple.
If Samsung get their build quality and design out if the Asian gutter and somewhere near western quality they will push Apple into a small corner of the Asian market. Since Apple is so slow to release that a large screen size is very important in Asia, Samsung will complete their already considerable cleanup of Apple's market share if they add quality.
I assume from your location that you are familiar with things asian, so given HTC's and Sony's very nice hardware (granted, Sony software is not all it could be), "Asian gutter" is a bit misguided, no?
You mean that sucky externally placed antenna frame design that is still being used on the iPhone 4, iPhone 4S and iPhone 5 that have been selling for nearly 3 years now? What a horrible design¡
I have had every iPhone since 3GS. The 3GS was fine. The 4 sucked dead goats, and was unusable as a phone unless in speaker mode, which is why I felt forced to upgrade to a 4S, which was a marked improvement, but not great. The 5 is fine. Hence, "intermittently". If you have had a different experience, consider yourself lucky.
"Samsung, though, was said to be unable to mass produce metal units quickly enough before the device's scheduled launch, so the manufacturer went with a plastic design."
Here's one thing Samsung hasn't copied from Apple. Apple doesn't sacrifice the product because of deadlines.
No, only to inflate its margins. You want proof? iPad 1, revolutionary as it was, did not have a fucking camera. None. iPad mini does not have a retina display. iPhones 1-4 did not have LTE, which was a major selling point of the 5, two years after everyone else, all of the above serving to suck every possible dollar out of its customers.
I feel ripped off because when you charging premium prices for the devices, why can't you make a decent antenna?
That just sounds insane. You are saying they have hundreds of millions of iPhone 4, 4S, and 5's in customer hands and none of them have a decent antenna. :rolleyes:
Why must you gouge me for $$$ for stupid lightning cables (which give no performance advantage at the moment)?
What do you mean by performance? Data throughput? What exactly is Lightning not letting you do?
Why is the software buggy (with $150BN in the bank, can't they hire a few hundred more QA people?)?
Compared to other OSes I find Mac OS X and iOS much less buggy than other OSes. Same goes with their apps. There cloud services certainly have way too many issues but there is no way to say it's specifically because of software bug if you understand what is involved. As for simply throwing more people at a project: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks's_law
As for Samsung, what exactly is wrong with their products?
I find their ethics to be questionable which makes me wonder how they will treat their customers long term. Apple has a great track record with customers, at least in the US. If I was in a country that didn't have an Apple Store there would certainly be other considerations with buying an Apple product.
That just sounds insane. You are saying they have hundreds of millions of iPhone 4, 4S, and 5's in customer hands and none of them have a decent antenna.
What do you mean by performance? Data throughput? What exactly is Lightning not letting you do?
Compared to other OSes I find Mac OS X and iOS much less buggy than other OSes. Same goes with their apps. There cloud services certainly have way too many issues but there is no way to say it's specifically because of software bug if you understand what is involved. As for simply throwing more people at a project: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks's_law
I find their ethics to be questionable which makes me wonder how they will treat their customers long term. Apple has a great track record with customers, at least in the US. If I was in a country that didn't have an Apple Store there would certainly be other considerations with buying an Apple product.
You saw my message about antennas, so don't twist what I say. What Lightning is not letting me do is to use the money for something useful. Performance does mean data throughput, which is identical to that of the 30pin connector. Since, at this point I must have spent $200 on lightning cables, I am not happy.
As for OSes: Mac OS X freezes a lot more than any Linux I have used. It used to be way better than Windows, but Windows has improved, and OS X has not, so it is a close call now. iOS, well, instead of a littany of woe, tell me that you have never experience the following: Some app is getting updated, then for some reason the update is interrupted (typical reason: I am on a cellular network [why can't it just ask me if I mind -- I have many gigabytes of Verizon LTE, I really don't care], then the only way to get the stupid app updated is to delete it and reinstall it from scratch. Unless apple hates me personally, I doubt that I am the only one to have suffered from this.
Anyway, my experience is that Apple gouges their customers, and fucks them when it feels like it (aside from the above, consider the Final Cut X fiasco, which was a deliberate FU to the pro customers, and consider the lack of a new Mac Pro -- more of the same. Consider the half baked iWork suite -- I like Keynote, but ten years after its introduction is still does not have an equation editor, which makes it barely usable for scientific presentations. I could go on, and probably will in some other rant).
I have had every iPhone since 3GS. The 3GS was fine. The 4 sucked dead goats, and was unusable as a phone unless in speaker mode, which is why I felt forced to upgrade to a 4S, which was a marked improvement, but not great. The 5 is fine. Hence, "intermittently". If you have had a different experience, consider yourself lucky.
Yeah, that sheer 'luck' must explain the industry's highest consumer satisfaction ratings.
Your drivel is getting completely tiresome. Go on, wander off and troll somewhere else.
No, only to inflate its margins. You want proof? iPad 1, revolutionary as it was, did not have a fucking camera. None. iPad mini does not have a retina display. iPhones 1-4 did not have LTE, which was a major selling point of the 5, two years after everyone else, all of the above serving to suck every possible dollar out of its customers.
Someone woke up on the wrong side of the temporal displacement. We don't have technology that allows us to move in more than four dimensions at once over here, so I guess you're stuck. Get used to the fact that your life is a falsehood, though.
Oh, was Lincoln assassinated in your timeline?
Anyway, my experience is that Apple gouges their customers, and fucks them when it feels like it…
Yeah, that sheer 'luck' must explain the industry's highest consumer satisfaction ratings.
Your drivel is getting completely tiresome. Go on, wander off and troll somewhere else.
I guess the other phones are even worse. As for the second line, that was exactly what I was thinking about you! So, why don't we keep the abuse to ourselves, or can't you restrain yourself? It must be hard when you are 14 and full of testosterone...
Someone woke up on the wrong side of the temporal displacement. We don't have technology that allows us to move in more than four dimensions at once over here, so I guess you're stuck. Get used to the fact that your life is a falsehood, though.
Oh, was Lincoln assassinated in your timeline?
So why ARE you here?
I don't understand the first paragraph at all, or the second. Off the lithium again? As for the last question, I like Apple's products, I am typing this on a MBPr to which a iPad 4 is attached, and an iPhone 5 is in my pocket. That does not make me like Apple as a company, nor does it make me think that everything without a half-eaten fruit on it is junk. Imagine that!
You saw my message about antennas, so don't twist what I say.
Oh, I read what you wrote. You said they can't make a decent antenna. I did infer that you meant the cellular antenna and starting with the iPhone 4 as that's the one that started with the externally place frame than you and your ilk like to use as proof that Apple sucks. If you meant the antennas in the earlier iPhones or the WiFi or BT antennas you didn't specify and it's hard to imagine you have meant those without specifying So, again, the iPhone 4, Phone 4S, and iPhone 5 have sold hundreds of millions of units to customers that are using them perfectly fine on their supported carriers and, as anantksundaram stated, they have the highest customer satisfaction rate among smartphones. It's hard to imagine that people would vote it so high when 1) they are so overpriced, and 2) they don't work.
What Lightning is not letting me do is to use the money for something useful.
Not letting you? You can just stop acting entitled or I will make an example of you as I have a few minutes between The Mentalist and Family Guy.
Note that you weren't forced to buy any Apple product with your money -and- any Apple product that comes with a Lightning port also comes with a Lightning cable. Let's also note that both Apple's 30-pin iPod Dock Connector and Lightning do a great many things that micro-USB can't. Finally, lets acknowledge that Apple used the same connector across these product categories for nearly a decade without altering the plug when no other company has done that.
Performance does mean data throughput, which is identical to that of the 30pin connector..
Wait. what the **** are you saying? Are you really suggesting that Apple should have put a USB 3.0 port on the iPhone to make the throughput faster?
Since, at this point I must have spent $200 on lightning cables, I am not happy..
Yeah, that's Apple fault¡ :rolleyes:
As for OSes: Mac OS X freezes a lot more than any Linux I have used. It used to be way better than Windows, but Windows has improved, and OS X has not, so it is a close call now. iOS, well, instead of a littany of woe, tell me that you have never experience the following: Some app is getting updated, then for some reason the update is interrupted (typical reason: I am on a cellular network [why can't it just ask me if I mind -- I have many gigabytes of Verizon LTE, I really don't care], then the only way to get the stupid app updated is to delete it and reinstall it from scratch. Unless apple hates me personally, I doubt that I am the only one to have suffered from this.
Anyway, my experience is that Apple gouges their customers, and fucks them when it feels like it (aside from the above, consider the Final Cut X fiasco, which was a deliberate FU to the pro customers, and consider the lack of a new Mac Pro -- more of the same. Consider the half baked iWork suite -- I like Keynote, but ten years after its introduction is still does not have an equation editor, which makes it barely usable for scientific presentations. I could go on, and probably will in some other rant).
Perhaps for someone who has to buy hundreds of dollars in cables in the span of a half a year their ability to understand and use certain technologies has some limitations, to put it lightly. Anytime someone likes an Apple product you like to use an ad hominem by calling them fanboys. Perhaps your experiences are different from others and perhaps you have so many issues with Mac OS X and iOS crashes that Windows is better but you actually believe that anyone who has a good experience with an Apple product is somehow just an delusional, incensed fanboy who is lying. It makes me wonder why they would buy a product that doesn't actually work for them, but it makes it wonder more why you say you buy so much from Apple when you have so much to complain about.
I guess the other phones are even worse. As for the second line, that was exactly what I was thinking about you! So, why don't we keep the abuse to ourselves, or can't you restrain yourself? It must be hard when you are 14 and full of testosterone...
1) You started all of this!
2) You go from one sentence saying "why don't we keep the abuse to ourselves" to "it must be hard with you are 14 and full of testosterone." The same fucking post! That really makes you look mental.
2) You go from one sentence saying "why don't we keep the abuse to ourselves" to "it must be hard with you are 14 and full of testosterone." The same fucking post! That really makes you look mental.
I don't understand the first paragraph at all, or the second. Off the lithium again? As for the last question, I like Apple's products, I am typing this on a MBPr to which a iPad 4 is attached, and an iPhone 5 is in my pocket. That does not make me like Apple as a company, nor does it make me think that everything without a half-eaten fruit on it is junk. Imagine that!
Sheesh, Griv, what was it that really caused you to be pissed you off today?
Oh, I read what you wrote. You said they can't make a decent antenna. I did infer that you meant the cellular antenna and starting with the iPhone 4 as that's the one that started with the externally place frame than you and your ilk like to use as proof that Apple sucks. If you meant the antennas in the earlier iPhones or the WiFi or BT antennas you didn't specify and it's hard to imagine you have meant those without specifying So, again, the iPhone 4, Phone 4S, and iPhone 5 have sold hundreds of millions of units to customers that are using them perfectly fine on their supported carriers and, as anantksundaram stated, they have the highest customer satisfaction rate among smartphones. It's hard to imagine that people would vote it so high when 1) they are so overpriced, and 2) they don't work.
Not letting you? You can just stop acting entitled or I will make an example of you as I have a few minutes between The Mentalist and Family Guy.
Note that you weren't forced to buy any Apple product with your money -and- any Apple product that comes with a Lightning port also comes with a Lightning cable. Let's also note that both Apple's 30-pin iPod Dock Connector and Lightning do a great many things that micro-USB can't. Finally, lets acknowledge that Apple used the same connector across these product categories for nearly a decade without altering the plug when no other company has done that.
Wait. what the **** are you saying? Are you really suggesting that Apple should have put a USB 3.0 port on the iPhone to make the throughput faster?
Yeah, that's Apple fault¡
Perhaps for someone who has to buy hundreds of dollars in cables in the span of a half a year their ability to understand and use certain technologies has some limitations, to put it lightly. Anytime someone likes an Apple product you like to use an ad hominem by calling them fanboys. Perhaps your experiences are different from others and perhaps you have so many issues with Mac OS X and iOS crashes that Windows is better but you actually believe that anyone who has a good experience with an Apple product is somehow just an delusional, incensed fanboy who is lying. It makes me wonder why they would buy a product that doesn't actually work for them, but it makes it wonder more why you say you buy so much from Apple when you have so much to complain about.
1. No, go back and read. I wrote that the 3GS was fine, 4 not, 4s better than 4, 5 is fine again.
2. My ilk?
3. I didn't say that the phones were overpriced or that they did not work, only that some of them had bad antennas (I used my iPhone 4 happily, just not as a phone -- as a pocket computer it was great!)
4. I never said anything at all about microUSB. What are you on about? But now that you mention it, I have synced and charged many non-apple devices using their usb ports, so I am not sure what it is that the apple connectors can do that others can't.
5. You are being disingenuous. Yes, apple products come with a dock cable. However, most of us who don't live on our couch (I guess that wouldn't be you) need to use the devices in multiple locations, which makes it useful to have multiple cables. We also have docking devices designed for 30pin connectors, which need the insanely priced adaptor gizmos (and no, I am not going to carry the same adaptor between N devices).
6. I am not suggesting that Apple put USB ports on their devices, but what I am saying is that gratuitously changing the ports without any technical justification is either dumb or gouging. Take your pick.
7. I have had many experiences with OS X crashes because I live on my Macbook, and use it as an actual computer. It is a very nice piece of hardware. The software has both pluses and minuses. Stability is (today) a small plus relative to Windows and a small minus relative to linux (but you didn't read my previous post, before starting to foam at the mouth.
8. I don't call people who like Apple hardware fanboys, only people who berate everything else and believe that every design decision Apple makes is received wisdom.
9. and as for the rest, I have used (and developed for) every Apple device from Mac Plus to today's hardware (that includes the NeXT, as a courtesy Apple).
"Samsung, though, was said to be unable to mass produce metal units quickly enough before the device's scheduled launch, so the manufacturer went with a plastic design."
Here's one thing Samsung hasn't copied from Apple. Apple doesn't sacrifice the product because of deadlines.
Maps.
But in terms of HW, I agree with your statement.
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Umm! "drivel" is a bit harsh.
Agreed, the antenna design was "ambitious" but it was stretching the envelope and their cloud services have not been very well realized, yet.
But, my point is Apple is at the forefront of incorporating the latest tech and sw. Whereas, it's competitors are merely "copying" Apple's innovations (and poorly)....whether it be the iPhone, iPad, all-in-one iMac, MBA, iOS, Retina displays, etc., etc.
But where Apple really excels is the "ecosystem." Everyone else, and I do mean everyone, can't hold a candle to that. It's not all about money, profit and market share.
Sometimes it's about providing great customer value!
I feel ripped off by companies like Dell, HP, Samsung, RIM, Sony, MS, Google. They provide subpar products/services and because they are free, cheap or ad-based, I'm supposed to, somehow appreciate that.
Nope!
#next_pages_container { width: 5px; hight: 5px; position: absolute; top: -100px; left: -100px; z-index: 2147483647 !important; }Sorry about the "drivel" bit, I get a bit incensed by all the fanboism (of which you are not by a long shot the worst offender). As for the rest, I am not crazy about the ads in google searches, but google does need to make a living, and I don't know how we lived without google searches. As for Apple, they have a great system, but I feel ripped off because when you charging premium prices for the devices, why can't you make a decent antenna? Why must you gouge me for $$$ for stupid lightning cables (which give no performance advantage at the moment)? Why is the software buggy (with $150BN in the bank, can't they hire a few hundred more QA people?)? As for Samsung, what exactly is wrong with their products? Do you feel ripped off by Chevy because they don't make Ferraris? As a matter of fact, I am currently at a conference, and am renting a Camaro SS, which has all the features of my Audi (and MORE horsepower), for $15-20K (I am guessing) less retail. The features are not put together as well, I don't find the car anywhere near as pleasant to drive,and I would not trade my car for it (even if I got $20K back), but why should I resent Chevrolet? They did a very nice job on a budget. I am sure they copied a lot of the german (or japanese, who knows who did what first) features, but so what? It makes people happy, and puts more pressure on the premium vendors -- just as Samsung puts on Apple.
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If Samsung get their build quality and design out if the Asian gutter and somewhere near western quality they will push Apple into a small corner of the Asian market. Since Apple is so slow to release that a large screen size is very important in Asia, Samsung will complete their already considerable cleanup of Apple's market share if they add quality.
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You mean that sucky externally placed antenna frame design that is still being used on the iPhone 4, iPhone 4S and iPhone 5 that have been selling for nearly 3 years now? What a horrible design¡
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I have had every iPhone since 3GS. The 3GS was fine. The 4 sucked dead goats, and was unusable as a phone unless in speaker mode, which is why I felt forced to upgrade to a 4S, which was a marked improvement, but not great. The 5 is fine. Hence, "intermittently". If you have had a different experience, consider yourself lucky.
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"Samsung, though, was said to be unable to mass produce metal units quickly enough before the device's scheduled launch, so the manufacturer went with a plastic design."
Here's one thing Samsung hasn't copied from Apple. Apple doesn't sacrifice the product because of deadlines.
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No, only to inflate its margins. You want proof? iPad 1, revolutionary as it was, did not have a fucking camera. None. iPad mini does not have a retina display. iPhones 1-4 did not have LTE, which was a major selling point of the 5, two years after everyone else, all of the above serving to suck every possible dollar out of its customers.
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That just sounds insane. You are saying they have hundreds of millions of iPhone 4, 4S, and 5's in customer hands and none of them have a decent antenna. :rolleyes:
What do you mean by performance? Data throughput? What exactly is Lightning not letting you do?
Compared to other OSes I find Mac OS X and iOS much less buggy than other OSes. Same goes with their apps. There cloud services certainly have way too many issues but there is no way to say it's specifically because of software bug if you understand what is involved. As for simply throwing more people at a project: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks's_law
I find their ethics to be questionable which makes me wonder how they will treat their customers long term. Apple has a great track record with customers, at least in the US. If I was in a country that didn't have an Apple Store there would certainly be other considerations with buying an Apple product.
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That just sounds insane. You are saying they have hundreds of millions of iPhone 4, 4S, and 5's in customer hands and none of them have a decent antenna.
What do you mean by performance? Data throughput? What exactly is Lightning not letting you do?
Compared to other OSes I find Mac OS X and iOS much less buggy than other OSes. Same goes with their apps. There cloud services certainly have way too many issues but there is no way to say it's specifically because of software bug if you understand what is involved. As for simply throwing more people at a project: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks's_law
I find their ethics to be questionable which makes me wonder how they will treat their customers long term. Apple has a great track record with customers, at least in the US. If I was in a country that didn't have an Apple Store there would certainly be other considerations with buying an Apple product.
You saw my message about antennas, so don't twist what I say. What Lightning is not letting me do is to use the money for something useful. Performance does mean data throughput, which is identical to that of the 30pin connector. Since, at this point I must have spent $200 on lightning cables, I am not happy.
As for OSes: Mac OS X freezes a lot more than any Linux I have used. It used to be way better than Windows, but Windows has improved, and OS X has not, so it is a close call now. iOS, well, instead of a littany of woe, tell me that you have never experience the following: Some app is getting updated, then for some reason the update is interrupted (typical reason: I am on a cellular network [why can't it just ask me if I mind -- I have many gigabytes of Verizon LTE, I really don't care], then the only way to get the stupid app updated is to delete it and reinstall it from scratch. Unless apple hates me personally, I doubt that I am the only one to have suffered from this.
Anyway, my experience is that Apple gouges their customers, and fucks them when it feels like it (aside from the above, consider the Final Cut X fiasco, which was a deliberate FU to the pro customers, and consider the lack of a new Mac Pro -- more of the same. Consider the half baked iWork suite -- I like Keynote, but ten years after its introduction is still does not have an equation editor, which makes it barely usable for scientific presentations. I could go on, and probably will in some other rant).
Yeah, that sheer 'luck' must explain the industry's highest consumer satisfaction ratings.
Your drivel is getting completely tiresome. Go on, wander off and troll somewhere else.
Originally Posted by igriv
No, only to inflate its margins. You want proof? iPad 1, revolutionary as it was, did not have a fucking camera. None. iPad mini does not have a retina display. iPhones 1-4 did not have LTE, which was a major selling point of the 5, two years after everyone else, all of the above serving to suck every possible dollar out of its customers.
Someone woke up on the wrong side of the temporal displacement. We don't have technology that allows us to move in more than four dimensions at once over here, so I guess you're stuck. Get used to the fact that your life is a falsehood, though.
Oh, was Lincoln assassinated in your timeline?
Anyway, my experience is that Apple gouges their customers, and fucks them when it feels like it…
So why ARE you here?
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Yeah, that sheer 'luck' must explain the industry's highest consumer satisfaction ratings.
Your drivel is getting completely tiresome. Go on, wander off and troll somewhere else.
I guess the other phones are even worse. As for the second line, that was exactly what I was thinking about you! So, why don't we keep the abuse to ourselves, or can't you restrain yourself? It must be hard when you are 14 and full of testosterone...
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Someone woke up on the wrong side of the temporal displacement. We don't have technology that allows us to move in more than four dimensions at once over here, so I guess you're stuck. Get used to the fact that your life is a falsehood, though.
Oh, was Lincoln assassinated in your timeline?
So why ARE you here?
I don't understand the first paragraph at all, or the second. Off the lithium again? As for the last question, I like Apple's products, I am typing this on a MBPr to which a iPad 4 is attached, and an iPhone 5 is in my pocket. That does not make me like Apple as a company, nor does it make me think that everything without a half-eaten fruit on it is junk. Imagine that!
Oh, I read what you wrote. You said they can't make a decent antenna. I did infer that you meant the cellular antenna and starting with the iPhone 4 as that's the one that started with the externally place frame than you and your ilk like to use as proof that Apple sucks. If you meant the antennas in the earlier iPhones or the WiFi or BT antennas you didn't specify and it's hard to imagine you have meant those without specifying So, again, the iPhone 4, Phone 4S, and iPhone 5 have sold hundreds of millions of units to customers that are using them perfectly fine on their supported carriers and, as anantksundaram stated, they have the highest customer satisfaction rate among smartphones. It's hard to imagine that people would vote it so high when 1) they are so overpriced, and 2) they don't work.
Not letting you? You can just stop acting entitled or I will make an example of you as I have a few minutes between The Mentalist and Family Guy.
Note that you weren't forced to buy any Apple product with your money -and- any Apple product that comes with a Lightning port also comes with a Lightning cable. Let's also note that both Apple's 30-pin iPod Dock Connector and Lightning do a great many things that micro-USB can't. Finally, lets acknowledge that Apple used the same connector across these product categories for nearly a decade without altering the plug when no other company has done that.
Wait. what the **** are you saying? Are you really suggesting that Apple should have put a USB 3.0 port on the iPhone to make the throughput faster?
Yeah, that's Apple fault¡ :rolleyes:
Perhaps for someone who has to buy hundreds of dollars in cables in the span of a half a year their ability to understand and use certain technologies has some limitations, to put it lightly. Anytime someone likes an Apple product you like to use an ad hominem by calling them fanboys. Perhaps your experiences are different from others and perhaps you have so many issues with Mac OS X and iOS crashes that Windows is better but you actually believe that anyone who has a good experience with an Apple product is somehow just an delusional, incensed fanboy who is lying. It makes me wonder why they would buy a product that doesn't actually work for them, but it makes it wonder more why you say you buy so much from Apple when you have so much to complain about.
Originally Posted by igriv
…nor does it make me think that everything without a half-eaten fruit on it is junk.
Certainly seems to make you fantasize about things that aren't true, though.
1) You started all of this!
2) You go from one sentence saying "why don't we keep the abuse to ourselves" to "it must be hard with you are 14 and full of testosterone." The same fucking post! That really makes you look mental.
Originally Posted by SolipsismX
Wait. what the **** are you saying? Are you really suggesting that Apple should have put a USB 3.0 port on the iPhone to make the throughput faster?
Well, MicroUSB 3, at least.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
1) You started all of this!
2) You go from one sentence saying "why don't we keep the abuse to ourselves" to "it must be hard with you are 14 and full of testosterone." The same fucking post! That really makes you look mental.
Started what?
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Originally Posted by igriv
I don't understand the first paragraph at all, or the second. Off the lithium again? As for the last question, I like Apple's products, I am typing this on a MBPr to which a iPad 4 is attached, and an iPhone 5 is in my pocket. That does not make me like Apple as a company, nor does it make me think that everything without a half-eaten fruit on it is junk. Imagine that!
Sheesh, Griv, what was it that really caused you to be pissed you off today?
1). Your Job
2). Your Partner
3). Family
4). Friends
5). Uncompleted goals
6). The World
You sure sound frustrated.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
Oh, I read what you wrote. You said they can't make a decent antenna. I did infer that you meant the cellular antenna and starting with the iPhone 4 as that's the one that started with the externally place frame than you and your ilk like to use as proof that Apple sucks. If you meant the antennas in the earlier iPhones or the WiFi or BT antennas you didn't specify and it's hard to imagine you have meant those without specifying So, again, the iPhone 4, Phone 4S, and iPhone 5 have sold hundreds of millions of units to customers that are using them perfectly fine on their supported carriers and, as anantksundaram stated, they have the highest customer satisfaction rate among smartphones. It's hard to imagine that people would vote it so high when 1) they are so overpriced, and 2) they don't work.
Not letting you? You can just stop acting entitled or I will make an example of you as I have a few minutes between The Mentalist and Family Guy.
Note that you weren't forced to buy any Apple product with your money -and- any Apple product that comes with a Lightning port also comes with a Lightning cable. Let's also note that both Apple's 30-pin iPod Dock Connector and Lightning do a great many things that micro-USB can't. Finally, lets acknowledge that Apple used the same connector across these product categories for nearly a decade without altering the plug when no other company has done that.
Wait. what the **** are you saying? Are you really suggesting that Apple should have put a USB 3.0 port on the iPhone to make the throughput faster?
Yeah, that's Apple fault¡
Perhaps for someone who has to buy hundreds of dollars in cables in the span of a half a year their ability to understand and use certain technologies has some limitations, to put it lightly. Anytime someone likes an Apple product you like to use an ad hominem by calling them fanboys. Perhaps your experiences are different from others and perhaps you have so many issues with Mac OS X and iOS crashes that Windows is better but you actually believe that anyone who has a good experience with an Apple product is somehow just an delusional, incensed fanboy who is lying. It makes me wonder why they would buy a product that doesn't actually work for them, but it makes it wonder more why you say you buy so much from Apple when you have so much to complain about.
1. No, go back and read. I wrote that the 3GS was fine, 4 not, 4s better than 4, 5 is fine again.
2. My ilk?
3. I didn't say that the phones were overpriced or that they did not work, only that some of them had bad antennas (I used my iPhone 4 happily, just not as a phone -- as a pocket computer it was great!)
4. I never said anything at all about microUSB. What are you on about? But now that you mention it, I have synced and charged many non-apple devices using their usb ports, so I am not sure what it is that the apple connectors can do that others can't.
5. You are being disingenuous. Yes, apple products come with a dock cable. However, most of us who don't live on our couch (I guess that wouldn't be you) need to use the devices in multiple locations, which makes it useful to have multiple cables. We also have docking devices designed for 30pin connectors, which need the insanely priced adaptor gizmos (and no, I am not going to carry the same adaptor between N devices).
6. I am not suggesting that Apple put USB ports on their devices, but what I am saying is that gratuitously changing the ports without any technical justification is either dumb or gouging. Take your pick.
7. I have had many experiences with OS X crashes because I live on my Macbook, and use it as an actual computer. It is a very nice piece of hardware. The software has both pluses and minuses. Stability is (today) a small plus relative to Windows and a small minus relative to linux (but you didn't read my previous post, before starting to foam at the mouth.
8. I don't call people who like Apple hardware fanboys, only people who berate everything else and believe that every design decision Apple makes is received wisdom.
9. and as for the rest, I have used (and developed for) every Apple device from Mac Plus to today's hardware (that includes the NeXT, as a courtesy Apple).
Maps.
But in terms of HW, I agree with your statement.
And what would that do to increase performance?
Started attacking people which you then claimed they were doing to you. If you're going to dish it out at least have the balls to take it.
Originally Posted by SolipsismX
And what would that do to increase performance?
"Faster."