Such FUD: "we will not force you to have the same operating system on all your devices.".
There are plenty of devices and software that let you use the AirPlay protocol to stream in or out videos and music. We use AirServer to connect Windows to AppleTV. There is even AirMusic software that steams Android music to AirPlay compatible devices.
Then maybe Apple's prices aren't high enough? Would a 100% markup would make you feel even better about your purchase?
Just to be clear: I'm not saying I don't think I got my money's worth for my iPad. I'm just trying to understand the psychology of non-investors being really excited about paying substantially in excess of cost (and remember that profits come after the costs of all that great customer service, etc., etc.).
Investors, I get. Apple fans, maybe it's something like keeping score between your team and rivals? Otherwise, it seems like a pretty basic violation of Economics 101 for customers to be excited about the products they buy producing high profits for the companies that sell them.
Apple must take Google search on agressively - giving adverts away for free or at least just cover costs. Google has played this game before to destroy competitors. Like maps, it can build and grow and make meaningless Google's whole raison d'etre.
It does tie up a device to do the actual streaming though. My Apple TVs are totally stand alone for things like Netflix or browsing my Photo Stream. Unless I happen to want to stream something from my iPad or Mac to the TV, like the entire Mac desktop, oh wait the Google thingy can't do that can it?
Such FUD: "we will not force you to have the same operating system on all your devices.".
There are plenty of devices and software that let you use the AirPlay protocol to stream in or out videos and music. We use AirServer to connect Windows to AppleTV. There is even AirMusic software that steams Android music to AirPlay compatible devices.
FALSE! Anyone can program this feature into their apps.
"Developer preview of the Google Cast SDK being published today with libraries for iOS, Android, and Chrome"
"Apps send video to the Chromecast through the new Google Cast SDK"
We won't force you to have the same operating system on all your devices, but we will force you to use a device unlike other beloved hobbies that can work as a standalone piece for your TV. And we will force you to stick it behind your TV panel putting it in probably the least optimal position for a good WiFi signal.
"Google %u2013 Everything you love about Apple %u2013 just lesser quality."
The only reason I "worry" about Google or Amazon selling products with zero or negative margin is because I know they have a plan to make money on it somehow. For Amazon it's to build/support their monopoly power on content; for Google isn't usually so they can generate more ad revenue. At least with Apple you don't have to guess about what's in it for them.
I bought mine. You get three months of free Netflix too.
its a netflix three months free trial, same as with any device on the planet, or even just going to netflix.com. Its for new users only as far as I can tell.
The only reason I "worry" about Google or Amazon selling products with zero or negative margin is because I know they have a plan to make money on it somehow. For Amazon it's to build/support their monopoly power on content; for Google isn't usually so they can generate more ad revenue. At least with Apple you don't have to guess about what's in it for them.
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I feel exactly the same way. Only reason google is making this device is to exploit its users. Same reason they make the chrome browser. It has nothing to do with making a profit on the HW. The buyer is the product via exploitation.
No thanks. You want cross platform go buy a Roko or install 3rd party airplay apps on Windows and Android clients
. How much is your privacy worth? Hopefully more than $65 per TV. What does this work out to spread over the life of the TV? Less than a dollar a month? Yeah. Great deal. Right.
If you think this product will compete with Apple TV then you don't understand the goals of Apple TV. Seriously, businesses are buying Apple TV systems for conference streaming events, multi-display Kiosks, etc.
and has its own remote. So someone can buy one and actually use it on its own without a computer or anything else. The following is an older link but Netflix seems to be quite popular on the Apple TV:
If the idea was to have independent streaming boxes everywhere in the house, I'd say the Apple TV would be a better setup. If each TV had a device nearby at all times, the Chromecast would be more cost-effective. Ethernet is also more stable a connection for constant streaming.
Apple's strategy is to make money on hardware, Google makes money from advertising and sells hardware most of the time at break-even. Apple would perhaps be better off replacing the AV adaptor with a wireless connection but it would kill some Apple TV sales and bring in more latency vs the cable.
It doesn't look like the Chromecast does wifi direct either so jammed behind a TV, it might not get a decent signal. Apple TV is rumoured to get wifi direct this year:
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Great product, but a little expensive for only being a steaming dongle plus one needs to have a google device to make it work!
Apple TV only needs a TV.
Have fun with it.
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Originally Posted by FrostyCanada
one needs to have a google device to make it work!
False. Once again people are jumping to conclusions off of a fraction of information.
Such FUD: "we will not force you to have the same operating system on all your devices.".
There are plenty of devices and software that let you use the AirPlay protocol to stream in or out videos and music. We use AirServer to connect Windows to AppleTV. There is even AirMusic software that steams Android music to AirPlay compatible devices.
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Originally Posted by monstrosity
Because you get what you pay for.
Then maybe Apple's prices aren't high enough? Would a 100% markup would make you feel even better about your purchase?
Just to be clear: I'm not saying I don't think I got my money's worth for my iPad. I'm just trying to understand the psychology of non-investors being really excited about paying substantially in excess of cost (and remember that profits come after the costs of all that great customer service, etc., etc.).
Investors, I get. Apple fans, maybe it's something like keeping score between your team and rivals? Otherwise, it seems like a pretty basic violation of Economics 101 for customers to be excited about the products they buy producing high profits for the companies that sell them.
Apple must take Google search on agressively - giving adverts away for free or at least just cover costs. Google has played this game before to destroy competitors. Like maps, it can build and grow and make meaningless Google's whole raison d'etre.
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Originally Posted by winstein2010
Such FUD: "we will not force you to have the same operating system on all your devices.".
There are plenty of devices and software that let you use the AirPlay protocol to stream in or out videos and music. We use AirServer to connect Windows to AppleTV. There is even AirMusic software that steams Android music to AirPlay compatible devices.
FALSE! Anyone can program this feature into their apps.
"Developer preview of the Google Cast SDK being published today with libraries for iOS, Android, and Chrome"
"Apps send video to the Chromecast through the new Google Cast SDK"
Anandtech: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7171/googles-breakfast-with-sundar-pichai-event-live-blog
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Originally Posted by LAKings33
False. Once again people are jumping to conclusions off of a fraction of information.
Gosh ... people need a some type of IOS / computer thingy to make the Google dongle work.
Dongle
Apple TV: needs only a TV.
"Google %u2013 Everything you love about Apple %u2013 just lesser quality."
The only reason I "worry" about Google or Amazon selling products with zero or negative margin is because I know they have a plan to make money on it somehow. For Amazon it's to build/support their monopoly power on content; for Google isn't usually so they can generate more ad revenue. At least with Apple you don't have to guess about what's in it for them.
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Originally Posted by DroidFTW
I bought mine. You get three months of free Netflix too.
its a netflix three months free trial, same as with any device on the planet, or even just going to netflix.com. Its for new users only as far as I can tell.
If you haven't already watched the press event, then check out the video below. ChromeCast info starts at 0:37:11 LINK!!!
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Originally Posted by FrostyCanada
Gosh ... people need a some type of IOS / computer thingy to make the Google dongle work.
Dongle
Apple TV: needs only a TV.
What?
Have you even looked at it? All Chromecast needs is an HDMI port. Same as Apple TV.
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Originally Posted by PhilBoogie
Also, don't forget to plug it into a wall outlet:
(edit: found a better pic)
Yeah, because Apple TV doesn't have to plug into a wall outlet?
I feel exactly the same way. Only reason google is making this device is to exploit its users. Same reason they make the chrome browser. It has nothing to do with making a profit on the HW. The buyer is the product via exploitation.
No thanks. You want cross platform go buy a Roko or install 3rd party airplay apps on Windows and Android clients
. How much is your privacy worth? Hopefully more than $65 per TV. What does this work out to spread over the life of the TV? Less than a dollar a month? Yeah. Great deal. Right.
I would. Heck, make it all 500% more expensive; we'd have way less complaints, and way less annoying posts (not from you, mind you)
Web apps? That's sooo 2007¡
No. I mean people get excited about the thing only being 2 inches, which is clearly not the case.
If you think this product will compete with Apple TV then you don't understand the goals of Apple TV. Seriously, businesses are buying Apple TV systems for conference streaming events, multi-display Kiosks, etc.
At least the AppleTV doesn't need an additional device, costing at the very least, hundred of dollars streaming to it to be of any use!
Another lousy idea from Larry and The L team ...
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD826ZM/A/lightning-digital-av-adapter
I can't believe that cable costs $49. The Apple TV at least can be bought and used to run Netflix or the other apps listed here:
http://www.apple.com/appletv/whats-on/
and has its own remote. So someone can buy one and actually use it on its own without a computer or anything else. The following is an older link but Netflix seems to be quite popular on the Apple TV:
http://appleinsider.com/articles/11/01/26/netflix_apple_tv_streaming_more_movies_than_ipad.html
If the idea was to have independent streaming boxes everywhere in the house, I'd say the Apple TV would be a better setup. If each TV had a device nearby at all times, the Chromecast would be more cost-effective. Ethernet is also more stable a connection for constant streaming.
Apple's strategy is to make money on hardware, Google makes money from advertising and sells hardware most of the time at break-even. Apple would perhaps be better off replacing the AV adaptor with a wireless connection but it would kill some Apple TV sales and bring in more latency vs the cable.
It doesn't look like the Chromecast does wifi direct either so jammed behind a TV, it might not get a decent signal. Apple TV is rumoured to get wifi direct this year:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57502154-37/apples-airplay-tech-to-work-without-wi-fi-report-says/