Go to the Motorola Mobility site - they still list all those other products (baby monitors, set top boxes, cable modems, etc) on their site.
Not set top boxes. They sold that division already. And it looks like they stopped making MotoNav GPS units as well (?). But you're right about the other products still being listed on the Motorola Mobility website:
Apparently parts of the website are out of date, though. It's difficult to tell what's real and what's not, since the "About Us" section still lists set top boxes, for example, and we know that division has been sold off.
They aren't even using their new logo yet.
They had the same problem back when Motorola Solutions bought Symbol. For a while, it was difficult to figure out where to go to get more info. Their websites are a mess.
Yet another GREAT article!! Thank you Apple Insider! Keep up the good work!
...also the number of dodgy Bloggers, "Journalists" and "Analysts" out there is quite alarming. Or perhaps they're being paid to write this BS? Even the thought of this is scary...
Of course they could. They could have put out a mid price and/or low price option to blunt the entry of Samsung (and others) into the marketplace.
No. They certainly don't have to make terrible devices if they don't want to. They do not have to compromise their beliefs to compete with someone who stole everything they make from Apple.
…giving incentive for vendors to open stores, kiosks, and for carriers (with hidden rebates) to push Samsung models over Apple's.
See, that was going to happen anyway, because every telecom is paid to push Android over iOS.
…but you are not going to have the profits of Ford…
Right; they'll have higher profits.
and eventually you are going to be a niche provider.
...also the number of dodgy Bloggers, "Journalists" and "Analysts" out there is quite alarming. Or perhaps they're being paid to write this BS? Even the thought of this is scary…
SonyEricsson no longer exists, Sony make phones, Ericsson make network equipment.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
Sorry, when people get facts wrong, they need to be corrected. They also included a non-existient company (Sony-Ericsson) in their list. If someone wants to make a point, they should do it with facts, not made up nonsense. If they're wrong, I can correct them.
Besides, even if you consider only Motorola Mobility, he's still wrong. Motorola Mobility makes a lot more than phones:
- weather radios
- set top boxes
- fitness devices
- baby monitors
- corded and cordless phones
- modems and gateways
No matter how you slice it, his statement was wrong.
Read the report I originally referred to, which was a report from 2010. Sony Ericsson did exist in 2010. As for Motorola, I already linked to their 2010 financial results, which clearly distinguishes between the two different parts of the company.
"The hedge fund managers are tremendously fearful that Apple has lost its touch and they can make a lot more money by backing legitimate companies like Amazon where they know they've got a sure thing when they see it. Apple is too iffy an investment. Hedge funds only back sure things."
Well you certainly have a very 'interesting' understanding of Wall Street and the market. Amazon is a legitimate company but AMZN is not a 'sure thing'. Hey but keep that tin foil on your head, wash your hands constantly..whatever it takes, and your investments will be safe. Thanks for the laugh regardless.
Apple and Samsung make pretty much all the profits in mobile devices right now. It's a duopoly. It might actually be a big deal when and if Samsung surpasses Apple since the latter has taken a high-end only strategy while the former sells all things to all people. Apple's historical strategy has been to eschew market share for profits. But if it is possible to have both then Apple might rethink its strategy.
Read the report I originally referred to, which was a report from 2010. Sony Ericsson did exist in 2010. As for Motorola, I already linked to their 2010 financial results, which clearly distinguishes between the two different parts of the company.
No, the Motorola part didn't refer to phones. It referred to Motorola Mobility results which, as has been pointed out, in 2010 included set top boxes, baby monitors, cable modems, and a bunch of other things.
And that's even if you accept that "motorola" meant "motorola mobility".
What most dont seam to understamd is.. That these headlines and most apple bashing reports are concorted work of samsung.. Google... Comcast...MS ... Through bribed bashers. They resort to these lowlife tactics of misinformation to change perception of the consumer . Some like to rise above to prove they are better. Some( like the above mentioned losers ) like to lower others to look good relative to them.
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Go to the Motorola Mobility site - they still list all those other products (baby monitors, set top boxes, cable modems, etc) on their site.
Not set top boxes. They sold that division already. And it looks like they stopped making MotoNav GPS units as well (?). But you're right about the other products still being listed on the Motorola Mobility website:
Apparently parts of the website are out of date, though. It's difficult to tell what's real and what's not, since the "About Us" section still lists set top boxes, for example, and we know that division has been sold off.
They aren't even using their new logo yet.
They had the same problem back when Motorola Solutions bought Symbol. For a while, it was difficult to figure out where to go to get more info. Their websites are a mess.
Very good article. Samsung will never surpass Apple, no matter how much they copy Apple's ideas.
Yup, discontinued. Buyers were not happy at the very quiet abandonment either.
EDIT: I had forgotten about a review I had done on the Motonav back in 2010. Blast from the past.
http://www.gpsreview.net/motorola-motonav-tn765t/
Yet another GREAT article!! Thank you Apple Insider! Keep up the good work!
...also the number of dodgy Bloggers, "Journalists" and "Analysts" out there is quite alarming. Or perhaps they're being paid to write this BS? Even the thought of this is scary...
the real question now is how many of the web sites that hyped this bogus SA report now post a follow up about its "flaws" (aka, lies).
haven't seen any yet, have you? what a surprise ...
No. They certainly don't have to make terrible devices if they don't want to. They do not have to compromise their beliefs to compete with someone who stole everything they make from Apple.
See, that was going to happen anyway, because every telecom is paid to push Android over iOS.
Right; they'll have higher profits.
Explains why marketshare keeps increasing, huh.
Though we do have proof of it happening…
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SonyEricsson no longer exists, Sony make phones, Ericsson make network equipment.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
Sorry, when people get facts wrong, they need to be corrected. They also included a non-existient company (Sony-Ericsson) in their list. If someone wants to make a point, they should do it with facts, not made up nonsense. If they're wrong, I can correct them.
Besides, even if you consider only Motorola Mobility, he's still wrong. Motorola Mobility makes a lot more than phones:
- weather radios
- set top boxes
- fitness devices
- baby monitors
- corded and cordless phones
- modems and gateways
No matter how you slice it, his statement was wrong.
Read the report I originally referred to, which was a report from 2010. Sony Ericsson did exist in 2010. As for Motorola, I already linked to their 2010 financial results, which clearly distinguishes between the two different parts of the company.
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Originally Posted by Constable Odo
"The hedge fund managers are tremendously fearful that Apple has lost its touch and they can make a lot more money by backing legitimate companies like Amazon where they know they've got a sure thing when they see it. Apple is too iffy an investment. Hedge funds only back sure things."
Well you certainly have a very 'interesting' understanding of Wall Street and the market. Amazon is a legitimate company but AMZN is not a 'sure thing'. Hey but keep that tin foil on your head, wash your hands constantly..whatever it takes, and your investments will be safe. Thanks for the laugh regardless.
Apple and Samsung make pretty much all the profits in mobile devices right now. It's a duopoly. It might actually be a big deal when and if Samsung surpasses Apple since the latter has taken a high-end only strategy while the former sells all things to all people. Apple's historical strategy has been to eschew market share for profits. But if it is possible to have both then Apple might rethink its strategy.
Philip Elmer-DeWitt runs a summary of Daniel Eran Dilger's piece, picks up some nice conspiracy-minded commentary about Strategy Analytics, here:
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2013/07/28/apple-samsung-profits-dilger/
Unusual for him on a weekend, I think. The consensus seems to be that Apple is getting trashed for not buying into the PR machine.
No, the Motorola part didn't refer to phones. It referred to Motorola Mobility results which, as has been pointed out, in 2010 included set top boxes, baby monitors, cable modems, and a bunch of other things.
And that's even if you accept that "motorola" meant "motorola mobility".
retracted
Anyone interested, here is the guy that wrote "Samsung Takes Apple's Crown as Most Profitable Handset Vendor in Q2 2013"
Though one might have a better chance on Twitter
They resort to these lowlife tactics of misinformation to change perception of the consumer .
Some like to rise above to prove they are better.
Some( like the above mentioned losers ) like to lower others to look good relative to them.
The keyword is "MIGHT". That is exactly what this article is all about. It seems you don't get your own words. Funny stuff.
Really? Then why is it that the 'American media' is at every Apple product launch and never at a Samsung one?
Just shut up.