Google+ auto-sign in already does this across the web and android eco system. Without the need for a gimmicky finger print reader. And I don't think android manufacturers look to Apple anymore. With 80% world market share, why would they?
I agree with you on NFC tho. I use it all the time but it's certainly a long way off (if ever) from anything useful. It's so much better than having to scan a phone's screen which I've seen fail over and over, and it's failed on me too. If only the infrastructure was there.
And I don't think android manufacturers look to Apple anymore. With 80% world market share, why would they?
Coz you can get 80% market share by selling cheaper and inferior gadgets, with a ton of shills paid at retail level to tell you an Android's more superior than an iPhone. What does the regular folk know better than believe them for there word. That's Why .
Your kidding me with the Google + auto sign feature right ? So in the Android space how would you buy content of the app store ? No passwords to be keyed in ?
Comeon, I'm talking of being able to bypass that with finger prints (its no gimmick like Samsung Air Touch / Scrolling with Retina / Pausing video when you look away )
Edit : And more importantly how do you login to the device, besides drawing those funny signs among a bunch of dots or the Super Successful Face recognition Gimmick
Won't the icons need to be bigger because of the glove? Won't it be easier to just take your glove off? For me, that would be a better way - hands down.
I've never had a problem. But, it likely depends on the type of glove. The leather ones I wear are small enough that they allow full, normal function. And living in NYC in the winter, there are some days you don't want to take off your gloves to have to answer a call and then fumble around to try and put them back on while on the call and your hands start to freeze solid. It's sometimes my favorite feature on my phone.
Face unlock, another gimmick in my opinion. Again, seems cool, but the average user is going to forget about it after awhile.
I guess it could be like the finger print reader, just another option for security. Don't like it? Don't use it. Face unlock, at least, doesn't add cost to the BoM tho.
And I don't think android manufacturers look to Apple anymore. With 80% world market share, why would they?
Coz you can get 80% market share by selling cheaper and inferior gadgets, with a ton of shills paid at retail level to tell you an Android's more superior than an iPhone. What does the regular folk know better than believe them for there word. That's Why .
Your kidding me with the Google + auto sign feature right ? So in the Android space how would you buy content of the app store ? No passwords to be keyed in ?
Comeon, I'm talking of being able to bypass that with finger prints (its no gimmick like Samsung Air Touch / Scrolling with Retina / Pausing video when you look away )
Edit : And more importantly how do you login to the device, besides drawing those funny signs among a bunch of dots or the Super Successful Face recognition Gimmick
Uh, yes. I don't use a password to buy apps. I hate that about the Apple app store. So freakin annoying. If you're logged into your phone that is linked to a google account anything with a password (that accepts G+) is bypassed.
I'm sorry to say, but Samsung can copy anything Apple can do and sell it for far less. I doubt Apple will even be able to protect whatever touch-sensor patents it has in the court system because Samsung will find a way around it. Samsung is a far superior hardware company than Apple is. Samsung can try 100 permutations of any component or product in a short time while Apple plods along at a snail's pace. Samsung has the brightest teams of employees whose specific tasks are to reverse-engineer rival's products. I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung has project teams that number in the hundreds whereas Apple probably has only a dozen employees working on any particular project at one time. Samsung has only one goal. To steal rival's product market share and then totally dominate that particular industry. Apple as a company is too passive to protect itself from that type of thinking.
Nearly every hedge fund manager on the planet sees Apple's iPhone as no better than any cheap, plastic Android smartphone. They all say that the Android smartphone competition has gotten too strong for Apple to handle and Apple has already fallen behind. They say this without any doubts in their minds. What gets me angry is that Apple is sitting on a mountain of reserve cash and should be able to prevent smaller companies from having any advantage at all. If Apple comes out with a touch-sensor smartphone that becomes successful, I'm willing to bet Samsung will have a new touch-sensor smartphone on the market within months if not sooner and thereafter, every Android smartphone in the world will have a touch-sensor.
So by your logic why should Apple (or any company for that matter) even try to compete against the behemoth that is Samsung? Samsung is just too superior, right? I'm glad you're consulting with hedge fund managers over Apple's product styling and tech. I'm sure they lend some real insights.
If you knew the first thing about designing and developing products you would know that large teams are generally a hinderance and most problems are solved best with smaller, focused ones. Hence, the reason you get so much garbage (hardware and software) included with a Samsung phone. You're right about one thing: The only successes Samsung has had has been when they've copied Apple. Otherwise, they're just throwing stuff against the wall to see what sticks.
Uh, yes. I don't use a password to buy apps. I hate that about the Apple app store. So freakin annoying. If you're logged into your phone that is linked to a google account anything with a password (that accepts G+) is bypassed.
Well I see , no wonder they call the Android platform so full of vulnerabilities.
So imagine ur 10 year old cousin gets ur phone and starts downloading all apps from the play store it should go through fine huh ?
I hear with the password kids have been downloading apps on the Apple world, imagine without it . Gosh do you keep an eye on your bank statements :P ?
Well I see , no wonder they call the Android platform so full of vulnerabilities.
So imagine ur 10 year old cousin gets ur phone and starts downloading all apps from the play store it should go through fine huh ?
I hear with the password kids have been downloading apps on the Apple world, imagine without it . Gosh do you keep an eye on your bank statements :P ?
Good thing Android supports multiple user accounts and whenever I give my phone to anyone, the guest account with no password (and no app download rights) is used where my account is password protected.
I guess it could be like the finger print reader, just another option for security. Don't like it? Don't use it. Face unlock, at least, doesn't add cost to the BoM tho.
You sound like a Samsung engineer.
"Sure, throw that in too. Let's fill up that product marketing checklist with nonsense. I'm sure one of them will catch on eventually. It doesn't matter if our customers are having poor experiences in the meantime. They'll forget about that."
Look at the last word on that picture. It doesnt matter if the tech is patented or hard to copy, if an Apple tech gain traction, everybody, there mother and there pets are going to clone the crap out of it and there is nothing Apple can do about it.
Uh, yes. I don't use a password to buy apps. I hate that about the Apple app store. So freakin annoying. If you're logged into your phone that is linked to a google account anything with a password (that accepts G+) is bypassed.
Say what? That's not how it is on my womans phone. Whenever she buys an app it prompts her for her password. Unless you have something special checked off, that's not the norm.
Say what? That's not how it is on my womans phone. Whenever she buys an app it prompts her for her password. Unless you have something special checked off, that's not the norm.
Only requirement is a google wallet account and linked G+ account.
Good thing Android supports multiple user accounts and whenever I give my phone to anyone, the guest account with no password (and no app download rights) is used where my account is password protected.
Oh there's a simpler way to do that on iOS. Use passwords instead .
I come from a systems programming world, and the whole idea of having multiple profiles to access your phone can add a lot more stress to the OS enviornment,
in terms of number of options / settings to remember per profile.
Sheesh no wonder you need a lot more resource hungry hardware to run Android. Resulting in bloated BIGGER screen gadgets, instead of being thin and sleek like an iPhone. I truly support Google if they wanted to ditch Android and give Chrome a shot now
Seems gimmicky but if it gives Apple fans something to cheer about, may be worth pursuing for Apple.
Since it is the 'least secure' of authentication methods- less secure than the existing ones- it means that it will actually add a vulnerability to phones. No big deal, it is about the equivalent of facial recognition vulnerability.
Unless the 'tape trick' works. Your fingerprint is all over your phone screen. If someone can just lift it with scotch tape and that works to unlock the phone, this is a pre-disaster waiting to happen for Apple as they'd likely have to issue a security bulletin telling users its best to disable their nifty new feature.
If it does prove useful, I would expect to see it on other phones shortly. Its not like Apple invented fingerprint scanning technology. My laptops have had it for at least a decade. They invented one method for doing it. Competitors will find an alternate method to do it if they even think it is worthwhile.
It'll be copied in no time. I think iOS 7 is a bigger differentiator. I don't understand the premise of a "ultra high resolution display technology". Is the sensor a display technology? I hope this isn't a new Siri, created just to more easily market the device, with no real functional improvements.
Seems gimmicky but if it gives Apple fans something to cheer about, may be worth pursuing for Apple.
Since it is the 'least secure' of authentication methods- less secure than the existing ones- it means that it will actually add a vulnerability to phones. No big deal, it is about the equivalent of facial recognition vulnerability.
Unless the 'tape trick' works. Your fingerprint is all over your phone screen. If someone can just lift it with scotch tape and that works to unlock the phone, this is a pre-disaster waiting to happen for Apple as they'd likely have to issue a security bulletin telling users its best to disable their nifty new feature.
If it does prove useful, I would expect to see it on other phones shortly. Its not like Apple invented fingerprint scanning technology. My laptops have had it for at least a decade. They invented one method for doing it. Competitors will find an alternate method to do it if they even think it is worthwhile.
Frood, you clearly don't follow Apple's technology huh ?
Authentech's tech for finger print access only works if "LIVE Tissues" get in contact with it.
That means you cant use scotch tape's or even a cut off finger to bypass the system.
Oh there's a simpler way to do that on iOS. Use passwords instead .
I come from a systems programming world, and the whole idea of having multiple profiles to access your phone can add a lot more stress to the OS enviornment,
in terms of number of options / settings to remember per profile.
Sheesh no wonder you need a lot more resource hungry hardware to run Android. Resulting in bloated BIGGER screen gadgets, instead of being thin and sleek like an iPhone. I truly support Google if they wanted to ditch Android and give Chrome a shot now
If you worry about people stealing from you by purchasing apps on your phone then don't uncheck the box and require a password. I don't have kids and don't give my phone to other people that would steam from me so I don't worry about it.
I also don't understand the article's reference to "advanced battery technology" in the iPhone 5. iPhone 5's battery is pretty lousy. It gets 3-4 hours playing games, and only about 6.5 hours with regular usage. And that's on less than 50% brightness.
If you worry about people stealing from you by purchasing apps on your phone then don't uncheck the box and require a password. I don't have kids and don't give my phone to other people that would steam from me so I don't worry about it.
Yes now that's what I call a User friendly interface, put a 100 options and throw checkboxe's next to each one of them. Bravo you go on
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Originally Posted by NexusPhan
Google+ auto-sign in already does this across the web and android eco system. Without the need for a gimmicky finger print reader. And I don't think android manufacturers look to Apple anymore. With 80% world market share, why would they?
I agree with you on NFC tho. I use it all the time but it's certainly a long way off (if ever) from anything useful. It's so much better than having to scan a phone's screen which I've seen fail over and over, and it's failed on me too. If only the infrastructure was there.
And I don't think android manufacturers look to Apple anymore. With 80% world market share, why would they?
Coz you can get 80% market share by selling cheaper and inferior gadgets, with a ton of shills paid at retail level to tell you an Android's more superior than an iPhone. What does the regular folk know better than believe them for there word. That's Why .
Your kidding me with the Google + auto sign feature right ? So in the Android space how would you buy content of the app store ? No passwords to be keyed in ?
Comeon, I'm talking of being able to bypass that with finger prints (its no gimmick like Samsung Air Touch / Scrolling with Retina / Pausing video when you look away )
Edit : And more importantly how do you login to the device, besides drawing those funny signs among a bunch of dots or the Super Successful Face recognition Gimmick
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Originally Posted by NexusPhan
Or just use facial recognition like android has. Lower security but sufficient for thieves because they don't know have any pictures of you.
Face unlock, another gimmick in my opinion. Again, seems cool, but the average user is going to forget about it after awhile.
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Originally Posted by PhilBoogie
Won't the icons need to be bigger because of the glove? Won't it be easier to just take your glove off? For me, that would be a better way - hands down.
I've never had a problem. But, it likely depends on the type of glove. The leather ones I wear are small enough that they allow full, normal function. And living in NYC in the winter, there are some days you don't want to take off your gloves to have to answer a call and then fumble around to try and put them back on while on the call and your hands start to freeze solid. It's sometimes my favorite feature on my phone.
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Originally Posted by 3Eleven
Face unlock, another gimmick in my opinion. Again, seems cool, but the average user is going to forget about it after awhile.
I guess it could be like the finger print reader, just another option for security. Don't like it? Don't use it. Face unlock, at least, doesn't add cost to the BoM tho.
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Originally Posted by PhilBoogie
Or better yet, Siri dialing 911, explaining the situation.
Hello, 911? My user is either dead or has had their finger cut off. XD
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Originally Posted by nikilok
And I don't think android manufacturers look to Apple anymore. With 80% world market share, why would they?
Coz you can get 80% market share by selling cheaper and inferior gadgets, with a ton of shills paid at retail level to tell you an Android's more superior than an iPhone. What does the regular folk know better than believe them for there word. That's Why .
Your kidding me with the Google + auto sign feature right ? So in the Android space how would you buy content of the app store ? No passwords to be keyed in ?
Comeon, I'm talking of being able to bypass that with finger prints (its no gimmick like Samsung Air Touch / Scrolling with Retina / Pausing video when you look away )
Edit : And more importantly how do you login to the device, besides drawing those funny signs among a bunch of dots or the Super Successful Face recognition Gimmick
Uh, yes. I don't use a password to buy apps. I hate that about the Apple app store. So freakin annoying. If you're logged into your phone that is linked to a google account anything with a password (that accepts G+) is bypassed.
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Originally Posted by Constable Odo
I'm sorry to say, but Samsung can copy anything Apple can do and sell it for far less. I doubt Apple will even be able to protect whatever touch-sensor patents it has in the court system because Samsung will find a way around it. Samsung is a far superior hardware company than Apple is. Samsung can try 100 permutations of any component or product in a short time while Apple plods along at a snail's pace. Samsung has the brightest teams of employees whose specific tasks are to reverse-engineer rival's products. I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung has project teams that number in the hundreds whereas Apple probably has only a dozen employees working on any particular project at one time. Samsung has only one goal. To steal rival's product market share and then totally dominate that particular industry. Apple as a company is too passive to protect itself from that type of thinking.
Nearly every hedge fund manager on the planet sees Apple's iPhone as no better than any cheap, plastic Android smartphone. They all say that the Android smartphone competition has gotten too strong for Apple to handle and Apple has already fallen behind. They say this without any doubts in their minds. What gets me angry is that Apple is sitting on a mountain of reserve cash and should be able to prevent smaller companies from having any advantage at all. If Apple comes out with a touch-sensor smartphone that becomes successful, I'm willing to bet Samsung will have a new touch-sensor smartphone on the market within months if not sooner and thereafter, every Android smartphone in the world will have a touch-sensor.
So by your logic why should Apple (or any company for that matter) even try to compete against the behemoth that is Samsung? Samsung is just too superior, right? I'm glad you're consulting with hedge fund managers over Apple's product styling and tech. I'm sure they lend some real insights.
If you knew the first thing about designing and developing products you would know that large teams are generally a hinderance and most problems are solved best with smaller, focused ones. Hence, the reason you get so much garbage (hardware and software) included with a Samsung phone. You're right about one thing: The only successes Samsung has had has been when they've copied Apple. Otherwise, they're just throwing stuff against the wall to see what sticks.
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Originally Posted by NexusPhan
Uh, yes. I don't use a password to buy apps. I hate that about the Apple app store. So freakin annoying. If you're logged into your phone that is linked to a google account anything with a password (that accepts G+) is bypassed.
Well I see , no wonder they call the Android platform so full of vulnerabilities.
So imagine ur 10 year old cousin gets ur phone and starts downloading all apps from the play store it should go through fine huh
I hear with the password kids have been downloading apps on the Apple world, imagine without it
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Originally Posted by nikilok
Well I see , no wonder they call the Android platform so full of vulnerabilities.
So imagine ur 10 year old cousin gets ur phone and starts downloading all apps from the play store it should go through fine huh
I hear with the password kids have been downloading apps on the Apple world, imagine without it
Good thing Android supports multiple user accounts and whenever I give my phone to anyone, the guest account with no password (and no app download rights) is used where my account is password protected.
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Originally Posted by NexusPhan
I guess it could be like the finger print reader, just another option for security. Don't like it? Don't use it. Face unlock, at least, doesn't add cost to the BoM tho.
You sound like a Samsung engineer.
"Sure, throw that in too. Let's fill up that product marketing checklist with nonsense. I'm sure one of them will catch on eventually. It doesn't matter if our customers are having poor experiences in the meantime. They'll forget about that."
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider
Look at the last word on that picture. It doesnt matter if the tech is patented or hard to copy, if an Apple tech gain traction, everybody, there mother and there pets are going to clone the crap out of it and there is nothing Apple can do about it.
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Originally Posted by NexusPhan
Uh, yes. I don't use a password to buy apps. I hate that about the Apple app store. So freakin annoying. If you're logged into your phone that is linked to a google account anything with a password (that accepts G+) is bypassed.
Say what? That's not how it is on my womans phone. Whenever she buys an app it prompts her for her password. Unless you have something special checked off, that's not the norm.
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Originally Posted by 3Eleven
Say what? That's not how it is on my womans phone. Whenever she buys an app it prompts her for her password. Unless you have something special checked off, that's not the norm.
Only requirement is a google wallet account and linked G+ account.
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Originally Posted by NexusPhan
Good thing Android supports multiple user accounts and whenever I give my phone to anyone, the guest account with no password (and no app download rights) is used where my account is password protected.
Oh there's a simpler way to do that on iOS. Use passwords instead
I come from a systems programming world, and the whole idea of having multiple profiles to access your phone can add a lot more stress to the OS enviornment,
in terms of number of options / settings to remember per profile.
Sheesh no wonder you need a lot more resource hungry hardware to run Android. Resulting in bloated BIGGER screen gadgets, instead of being thin and sleek like an iPhone. I truly support Google if they wanted to ditch Android and give Chrome a shot now
Seems gimmicky but if it gives Apple fans something to cheer about, may be worth pursuing for Apple.
Since it is the 'least secure' of authentication methods- less secure than the existing ones- it means that it will actually add a vulnerability to phones. No big deal, it is about the equivalent of facial recognition vulnerability.
Unless the 'tape trick' works. Your fingerprint is all over your phone screen. If someone can just lift it with scotch tape and that works to unlock the phone, this is a pre-disaster waiting to happen for Apple as they'd likely have to issue a security bulletin telling users its best to disable their nifty new feature.
If it does prove useful, I would expect to see it on other phones shortly. Its not like Apple invented fingerprint scanning technology. My laptops have had it for at least a decade. They invented one method for doing it. Competitors will find an alternate method to do it if they even think it is worthwhile.
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Originally Posted by Frood
Seems gimmicky but if it gives Apple fans something to cheer about, may be worth pursuing for Apple.
Since it is the 'least secure' of authentication methods- less secure than the existing ones- it means that it will actually add a vulnerability to phones. No big deal, it is about the equivalent of facial recognition vulnerability.
Unless the 'tape trick' works. Your fingerprint is all over your phone screen. If someone can just lift it with scotch tape and that works to unlock the phone, this is a pre-disaster waiting to happen for Apple as they'd likely have to issue a security bulletin telling users its best to disable their nifty new feature.
If it does prove useful, I would expect to see it on other phones shortly. Its not like Apple invented fingerprint scanning technology. My laptops have had it for at least a decade. They invented one method for doing it. Competitors will find an alternate method to do it if they even think it is worthwhile.
Frood, you clearly don't follow Apple's technology huh ?
Authentech's tech for finger print access only works if "LIVE Tissues" get in contact with it.
That means you cant use scotch tape's or even a cut off finger to bypass the system.
Read up more on it.
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Originally Posted by nikilok
Oh there's a simpler way to do that on iOS. Use passwords instead
I come from a systems programming world, and the whole idea of having multiple profiles to access your phone can add a lot more stress to the OS enviornment,
in terms of number of options / settings to remember per profile.
Sheesh no wonder you need a lot more resource hungry hardware to run Android. Resulting in bloated BIGGER screen gadgets, instead of being thin and sleek like an iPhone. I truly support Google if they wanted to ditch Android and give Chrome a shot now
If you worry about people stealing from you by purchasing apps on your phone then don't uncheck the box and require a password. I don't have kids and don't give my phone to other people that would steam from me so I don't worry about it.
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Originally Posted by NexusPhan
If you worry about people stealing from you by purchasing apps on your phone then don't uncheck the box and require a password. I don't have kids and don't give my phone to other people that would steam from me so I don't worry about it.
Yes now that's what I call a User friendly interface, put a 100 options and throw checkboxe's next to each one of them. Bravo you go on