Based on the sceren shot in the article, I don't see much visual difference from the way Google Maps has alwasy worked. You enter a search, results are displayed. Maybe it's clickable now, but visually it's not taking up any additional space than what the search results always did. This includes the ratings, reviews and photos. They were always there and can at times contribute to the search results and help you sort through the options.
That's because the screenshots in the article are wrong. I wouldn't mind but the proper screenshots were in the blog article he linked :-)
Google has been shipping Android for a few years now. Never sued anyone over it yet no matter who's used it, cloned it, forked it, or "borrowed an Android feature". Google is far from aggressive with it's IP.
They have a pending lawsuit against Apple.
Apple doesn't give away all of their source code for FREEE to OEMS. I can't help it if Apple wants to protect their patents.
If Google is too stupid to not know how to protect themselves, don't blame Apple because Apple DOES know how to protect it's IP. Apple has contributed plenty of things that are Open Source, but some things they protect to retain their competitive advantage.
Otherwise it's a free for all creating chaos and anarchy and then we become a socialist society because no one makes any profits/
Google has been shipping Android for a few years now. Never sued anyone over it yet no matter who's used it, cloned it, forked it, or "borrowed an Android feature". Google is far from aggressive with it's IP.
And maybe because Google's OS is too open where malware is EASILY written, whereas Apple takes a more serious stance on protecting their users from an onslaught of malware. And do you think that getting exposed to malware and security problems is good for the users? I don't, that's why I prefer Apple's OS, far less likely to get malware, Google's OS has too many.....
Oh well, you have to admit that Android OS is malware infested and if you don't, then you are either stupid, ignorant or just plain living in denial. Too many security firms tracking malware types for all platforms, and it has little to do with market share since even Symbian, which has less market share than Windows phones has malware attacks. Apple is definitely successful enough for the anti-apple folks to want to write malware, only some forms of malware can't be written in the first place and Apple gives it's users a safe place to obtain malware free apps.
No sir they do not AFAIK. Perhaps you're thinking of some three year old lawsuits that Motorola filed well before they spun off Motorola Mobility and looong before Google bought MM about a year ago.
And maybe because Google's OS is too open where malware is EASILY written, whereas Apple takes a more serious stance on protecting their users from an onslaught of malware. And do you think that getting exposed to malware and security problems is good for the users? I don't, that's why I prefer Apple's OS, far less likely to get malware, Google's OS has too many.....
Oh well, you have to admit that Android OS is malware infested and if you don't, then you are either stupid, ignorant or just plain living in denial. Too many security firms tracking malware types for all platforms, and it has little to do with market share since even Symbian, which has less market share than Windows phones has malware attacks. Apple is definitely successful enough for the anti-apple folks to want to write malware, only some forms of malware can't be written in the first place and Apple gives it's users a safe place to obtain malware free apps.
no disrespect but I am not so sure there is a direct link between malware and closed/open. Windows is closed. Linux is open. I think is more a matter of poor design and quality. Open can be security/quality and closed can be unsecure/crap. Likewise, open can be unsecure/crap and closed can be secure/good.
Also, I think open is a bit overblown when it comes to Android. Just because you can look at the code does not mean you can affect the content of future Android releases to improve things or make it worse. You are welcome to fork to make changes changes you like, but you will have to maintain the changes yourself for all future versions. So lets just say Open code base like Android does not mean the same as community maintained code base like with Linux.
Oh well, you have to admit that Android OS is malware infested and if you don't, then you are either stupid, ignorant or just plain living in denial. Too many security firms tracking malware types for all platforms, and it has little to do with market share since even Symbian, which has less market share than Windows phones has malware attacks. Apple is definitely successful enough for the anti-apple folks to want to write malware, only some forms of malware can't be written in the first place and Apple gives it's users a safe place to obtain malware free apps.
I don't personally know of anyone whose ever encountered "Android malware" and doubt you have either. But I do believe you've heard someone say that Android users are constantly dealing with it so it must be true. I guess that's close enough.
I don't personally know of anyone whose ever encountered "Android malware" and doubt you have either. But I do believe you've heard someone say that Android users are constantly dealing with it so it must be true. I guess that's close enough.
To be honest with you, I personally don't know of anyone who has ever encountered "Windows malware" either. But I have heard people say that Windows users are constantly dealing with it so it must be true. I guess that's close enough.
If a tree falls in the forest and you don't hear it, did it make a sound?
And
maybe because Google's OS is too open where malware is EASILY written, whereas Apple takes a more serious stance on protecting their users from an onslaught of malware. And do you think that getting exposed to malware and security problems is good for the users? I don't, that's why I prefer Apple's OS, far less likely to get malware, Google's OS has too many.....
Oh well, you have to admit that Android OS is malware infested and if you don't, then you are either stupid, ignorant or just plain living in denial. Too many security firms tracking malware types for all platforms, and it has little to do with market share since even Symbian, which has less market share than Windows phones has malware attacks. Apple is definitely successful enough for the anti-apple folks to want to write malware, only some forms of malware can't be written in the first place and Apple gives it's users a safe place to obtain malware free apps.
Do you know of anyone that's gotten malware? I haven't and I don't know of anyone that has. So I'm going to believe that the reports of malware are greatly exaggerated and you should be smarter than to believe what you read on the internet.
Do you know of anyone that's gotten malware? I haven't and I don't know of anyone that has. So I'm going to believe that the reports of malware are greatly exaggerated and you should be smarter than to believe what you read on the internet.
I have never experienced zero gravity in space, but I believe what I read if its makes logical sense to me. Google makes an ad platform design to exploit the user, its not about protecting users. Its no surprise to me that it is more prone to malware more than a platform design for the best product experience including protecting the user.
Oh well, you have to admit that Android OS is malware infested and if you don't, then you are either stupid, ignorant or just plain living in denial. Too many security firms tracking malware types for all platforms, and it has little to do with market share since even Symbian, which has less market share than Windows phones has malware attacks. Apple is definitely successful enough for the anti-apple folks to want to write malware, only some forms of malware can't be written in the first place and Apple gives it's users a safe place to obtain malware free apps.
I'd say if you believe that Malware is so prevalent and easy to infect Android devices, then to quote yourself "you are either stupid, ignorant or just plain living in denial".
We have had about 12 different Android devices in our family over the last 5 years (mostly the kids, and they download a lot of free crap apps) and never had one instance of malware. If you stick to the trusted app stores, Google Play/Amazon, there's nothing to worry about. Carrier Bloatware: Multiple issues. Malware: Zero issues.
I'd say if you believe that Malware is so prevalent and easy to infect Android devices, then to quote yourself "you are either stupid, ignorant or just plain living in denial".
We have had about 12 different Android devices in our family over the last 5 years (mostly the kids, and they download a lot of free crap apps) and never had one instance of malware. If you stick to the trusted app stores, Google Play/Amazon, there's nothing to worry about. Carrier Bloatware: Multiple issues. Malware: Zero issues.
I know better then to listen to Android trolls posting on Apple fan sites. If I would have listened to them they would have said the same thing about the Nexus 7 flash problem. "What problem??? I have had mine for ever and all my buddies too.. and have been using it since day one.. its all lies, lies I tell you. Nexus 7 has no problem." -troll
Actually, I am pretty sure they have pretty much said that almost verbatium here in the forums.
Google.. focus on quality? they had TRIM support in the kernel but never bothered to turn it on... only to fix the problem one year later. ha ha... laughable. Now you are going to tell me they are going to watch out for walware in their store and the platform prevents this? right.
I know better then to listen to Android trolls posting on Apple fan sites. If I would have listened to them they would have said the same thing about the Nexus 7 flash problem? What problem??? I have had mine for every and all my buddies too.. and have been using it since day one.. its all lies, lies I tell you. Nexus 7 has no problem.
Yes it had, specifically the 8GB model had a controller firmware issue. It wasn't a malware issue so what's your point?
Yes it had, specifically the 8GB model had a controller firmware issue. It wasn't a malware issue so what's your point?
no it was not.. the 8GB just showed the problem sooner. The controller is the same. it was a SW quality issue for not enabling TRIM. Google does not care about quality on the client side... they goal is to have an AD platform. Their goal is to exploit the user. No quality or protect the user. that is my point. You get what you pay for.. and you are paying for HW.. without SW quality and even if the community wanted to fix their SW problems for them for free they would not accept those changes.
It took them a freaking year to figure out they had TRIM turned off!!! and they only release the fix at the same time of releasing the new Nexus 7 so it would sell. Why not release the fix before the new Nexus 7 Google so your loyal customer who bought the first one did not need to suffer for an entire year? because they could give a crap about Nexus buyers... the Nexus buyers are not there customer.. they get no profits from buyers.. they get all the money from people who want to throw ads in front of Nexus buyer. .. as long as they are able to push AD and exploit the user they dont care about the Android platform quality.
how long do you think it would have taken this to get fixed if it was truely community maintained? Android SW quality is a joke and everyone knows it except the trolls.
I don't personally know of anyone whose ever encountered "Android malware" and doubt you have either. But I do believe you've heard someone say that Android users are constantly dealing with it so it must be true. I guess that's close enough.
Um, you or others may have encountered them without you knowing. Actually i have met several people that encountered some form of malware. I was talking with a T-Mobile sales rep at a local store, and this was BEFORE they started to carry the iPhone. What he told me is that he got a S3 for his father and his father downloads apps from Google Play and he admitted that his father had malware and that his phone was acting up. I have another person that wanted to see what the hype was around the S3 when it came out, and he downloaded some apps from Google Play and it started to act up and he returned it and found out that afterwards that the apps he downloaded were malware apps.
So, it depends on which app and whether your virus checking app can recognize it and some of them work in the background without your knowledge. So please don't insult my intelligence and don't be IGNORANT. Obviously all of the security companies that track and monitor mobile malware are watching these platforms carefully and trying to figure out how to tell how many users have been affected, so STOP YOUR AVOIDANCE OF THE TRUTH.
If only one security firm was talking about it, then maybe not, but they are ALL talking about how many different types of threats independently. I read these monthly and quarterly research papers they release as it's of interest to keep somewhat up to date. But most people don't. Most Android users I've talked to don't even know what the latest OS released from Google is unless they are using a Nexus phone, but no one I know has one, they have HTC, Samsung and most of them complain about having problems with the OS and NONE of them are running the latest OS. Most of them are running a much older OS. Go figure. Freaking stupid.
no it was not.. the 8GB just showed the problem sooner. The controller is the same. it was a SW quality issue for not enabling TRIM. Google does not care about quality on the client side... they goal is to have an AD platform. Their goal is to exploit the user. No quality or protect the user. that is my point. You get what you pay for.. and you are paying for HW.. without SW quality and even if the community wanted to fix their SW problems for them for free they would not accept those changes.
It took them a freaking year to figure out they had TRIM turned off!!! how long do you think it would have taken this to get fixed if it was truely community maintained? Android SW quality is a joke and everyone knows it except the trolls.
FWIW, we have slightly more Apple products in our household than Android products.
2 Macbook Pros
1 iMac
2 iPhones
2 iPod Touches
1 iPod Nano
2 Android Phones
2 Android Nexus 7 tablets
So I would say my experience of both platforms is pretty broad. I can say with 100% certainty that I have encountered as many software quality issues on Apple devices as on Android devices. (including several hardware issues on Apple devices, HDD failure on iMac, keyboard cable failure on Macbook pro, replaced iPhone due to hardware failure).
You may live in a world of denial and internet hype but I live in a practical world and deal with these issues on a day to day basis.
Um, you or others may have encountered them without you knowing. Actually i have met several people that encountered some form of malware. I was talking with a T-Mobile sales rep at a local store, and this was BEFORE they started to carry the iPhone. What he told me is that he got a S3 for his father and his father downloads apps from Google Play and he admitted that his father had malware and that his phone was acting up. I have another person that wanted to see what the hype was around the S3 when it came out, and he downloaded some apps from Google Play and it started to act up and he returned it and found out that afterwards that the apps he downloaded were malware apps.
So, it depends on which app and whether your virus checking app can recognize it and some of them work in the background without your knowledge. So please don't insult my intelligence and don't be IGNORANT. Obviously all of the security companies that track and monitor mobile malware are watching these platforms carefully and trying to figure out how to tell how many users have been affected, so STOP YOUR AVOIDANCE OF THE TRUTH.
If only one security firm was talking about it, then maybe not, but they are ALL talking about how many different types of threats independently. I read these monthly and quarterly research papers they release as it's of interest to keep somewhat up to date. But most people don't. Most Android users I've talked to don't even know what the latest OS released from Google is unless they are using a Nexus phone, but no one I know has one, they have HTC, Samsung and most of them complain about having problems with the OS and NONE of them are running the latest OS. Most of them are running a much older OS. Go figure. Freaking stupid.
why do we even bother to have this conversion... I can hear the response now.. "this is all hearsay.. you didn't know the T-mobiles rep personally do you????. so its all hearsay!!!".. on and on.. like just all be blind, deaf, and mute monkeys. hear no evil, see no evil, say no evil. "Google does no evil. and there is no malware/spyware on Android. and I am going to hold by breath until I turn blue until all your Apple fans believe me!!!!"
sounds like a waste of time on both sides. go preach to an Android web site. you are spinning your wheels here.
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Originally Posted by Wiggin
Based on the sceren shot in the article, I don't see much visual difference from the way Google Maps has alwasy worked. You enter a search, results are displayed. Maybe it's clickable now, but visually it's not taking up any additional space than what the search results always did. This includes the ratings, reviews and photos. They were always there and can at times contribute to the search results and help you sort through the options.
That's because the screenshots in the article are wrong. I wouldn't mind but the proper screenshots were in the blog article he linked :-)
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy
Google has been shipping Android for a few years now. Never sued anyone over it yet no matter who's used it, cloned it, forked it, or "borrowed an Android feature". Google is far from aggressive with it's IP.
They have a pending lawsuit against Apple.
Apple doesn't give away all of their source code for FREEE to OEMS. I can't help it if Apple wants to protect their patents.
If Google is too stupid to not know how to protect themselves, don't blame Apple because Apple DOES know how to protect it's IP. Apple has contributed plenty of things that are Open Source, but some things they protect to retain their competitive advantage.
Otherwise it's a free for all creating chaos and anarchy and then we become a socialist society because no one makes any profits/
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy
Google has been shipping Android for a few years now. Never sued anyone over it yet no matter who's used it, cloned it, forked it, or "borrowed an Android feature". Google is far from aggressive with it's IP.
And maybe because Google's OS is too open where malware is EASILY written, whereas Apple takes a more serious stance on protecting their users from an onslaught of malware. And do you think that getting exposed to malware and security problems is good for the users? I don't, that's why I prefer Apple's OS, far less likely to get malware, Google's OS has too many.....
Oh well, you have to admit that Android OS is malware infested and if you don't, then you are either stupid, ignorant or just plain living in denial. Too many security firms tracking malware types for all platforms, and it has little to do with market share since even Symbian, which has less market share than Windows phones has malware attacks. Apple is definitely successful enough for the anti-apple folks to want to write malware, only some forms of malware can't be written in the first place and Apple gives it's users a safe place to obtain malware free apps.
No sir they do not AFAIK. Perhaps you're thinking of some three year old lawsuits that Motorola filed well before they spun off Motorola Mobility and looong before Google bought MM about a year ago.
If I overlay the left pic over the one on the right I'd still see the address and status bar. I'm missing something here...
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Originally Posted by drblank
And maybe because Google's OS is too open where malware is EASILY written, whereas Apple takes a more serious stance on protecting their users from an onslaught of malware. And do you think that getting exposed to malware and security problems is good for the users? I don't, that's why I prefer Apple's OS, far less likely to get malware, Google's OS has too many.....
Oh well, you have to admit that Android OS is malware infested and if you don't, then you are either stupid, ignorant or just plain living in denial. Too many security firms tracking malware types for all platforms, and it has little to do with market share since even Symbian, which has less market share than Windows phones has malware attacks. Apple is definitely successful enough for the anti-apple folks to want to write malware, only some forms of malware can't be written in the first place and Apple gives it's users a safe place to obtain malware free apps.
no disrespect but I am not so sure there is a direct link between malware and closed/open. Windows is closed. Linux is open. I think is more a matter of poor design and quality. Open can be security/quality and closed can be unsecure/crap. Likewise, open can be unsecure/crap and closed can be secure/good.
Also, I think open is a bit overblown when it comes to Android. Just because you can look at the code does not mean you can affect the content of future Android releases to improve things or make it worse. You are welcome to fork to make changes changes you like, but you will have to maintain the changes yourself for all future versions. So lets just say Open code base like Android does not mean the same as community maintained code base like with Linux.
Oh wait. It's more than $12.5 billion now.
MM is still bleeding money. $218 million loss last quarter.
I don't personally know of anyone whose ever encountered "Android malware" and doubt you have either. But I do believe you've heard someone say that Android users are constantly dealing with it so it must be true. I guess that's close enough.
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy
I don't personally know of anyone whose ever encountered "Android malware" and doubt you have either. But I do believe you've heard someone say that Android users are constantly dealing with it so it must be true. I guess that's close enough.
To be honest with you, I personally don't know of anyone who has ever encountered "Windows malware" either. But I have heard people say that Windows users are constantly dealing with it so it must be true. I guess that's close enough.
If a tree falls in the forest and you don't hear it, did it make a sound?
did you have a point to make? I'm confused.
Do you know of anyone that's gotten malware? I haven't and I don't know of anyone that has. So I'm going to believe that the reports of malware are greatly exaggerated and you should be smarter than to believe what you read on the internet.
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Originally Posted by dasanman69
Do you know of anyone that's gotten malware? I haven't and I don't know of anyone that has. So I'm going to believe that the reports of malware are greatly exaggerated and you should be smarter than to believe what you read on the internet.
I have never experienced zero gravity in space, but I believe what I read if its makes logical sense to me. Google makes an ad platform design to exploit the user, its not about protecting users. Its no surprise to me that it is more prone to malware more than a platform design for the best product experience including protecting the user.
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Originally Posted by dasanman69
you should be smarter than to believe what you read on the internet.
I agree. including THIS^^^^
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Originally Posted by drblank
Oh well, you have to admit that Android OS is malware infested and if you don't, then you are either stupid, ignorant or just plain living in denial. Too many security firms tracking malware types for all platforms, and it has little to do with market share since even Symbian, which has less market share than Windows phones has malware attacks. Apple is definitely successful enough for the anti-apple folks to want to write malware, only some forms of malware can't be written in the first place and Apple gives it's users a safe place to obtain malware free apps.
I'd say if you believe that Malware is so prevalent and easy to infect Android devices, then to quote yourself "you are either stupid, ignorant or just plain living in denial".
We have had about 12 different Android devices in our family over the last 5 years (mostly the kids, and they download a lot of free crap apps) and never had one instance of malware. If you stick to the trusted app stores, Google Play/Amazon, there's nothing to worry about. Carrier Bloatware: Multiple issues. Malware: Zero issues.
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Originally Posted by patpatpat
I'd say if you believe that Malware is so prevalent and easy to infect Android devices, then to quote yourself "you are either stupid, ignorant or just plain living in denial".
We have had about 12 different Android devices in our family over the last 5 years (mostly the kids, and they download a lot of free crap apps) and never had one instance of malware. If you stick to the trusted app stores, Google Play/Amazon, there's nothing to worry about. Carrier Bloatware: Multiple issues. Malware: Zero issues.
I know better then to listen to Android trolls posting on Apple fan sites. If I would have listened to them they would have said the same thing about the Nexus 7 flash problem. "What problem??? I have had mine for ever and all my buddies too.. and have been using it since day one.. its all lies, lies I tell you. Nexus 7 has no problem." -troll
Actually, I am pretty sure they have pretty much said that almost verbatium here in the forums.
Google.. focus on quality? they had TRIM support in the kernel but never bothered to turn it on... only to fix the problem one year later. ha ha... laughable. Now you are going to tell me they are going to watch out for walware in their store and the platform prevents this? right.
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Originally Posted by snova
I know better then to listen to Android trolls posting on Apple fan sites. If I would have listened to them they would have said the same thing about the Nexus 7 flash problem? What problem??? I have had mine for every and all my buddies too.. and have been using it since day one.. its all lies, lies I tell you. Nexus 7 has no problem.
Yes it had, specifically the 8GB model had a controller firmware issue. It wasn't a malware issue so what's your point?
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Originally Posted by patpatpat
Yes it had, specifically the 8GB model had a controller firmware issue. It wasn't a malware issue so what's your point?
no it was not.. the 8GB just showed the problem sooner. The controller is the same. it was a SW quality issue for not enabling TRIM. Google does not care about quality on the client side... they goal is to have an AD platform. Their goal is to exploit the user. No quality or protect the user. that is my point. You get what you pay for.. and you are paying for HW.. without SW quality and even if the community wanted to fix their SW problems for them for free they would not accept those changes.
It took them a freaking year to figure out they had TRIM turned off!!! and they only release the fix at the same time of releasing the new Nexus 7 so it would sell. Why not release the fix before the new Nexus 7 Google so your loyal customer who bought the first one did not need to suffer for an entire year? because they could give a crap about Nexus buyers... the Nexus buyers are not there customer.. they get no profits from buyers.. they get all the money from people who want to throw ads in front of Nexus buyer. .. as long as they are able to push AD and exploit the user they dont care about the Android platform quality.
how long do you think it would have taken this to get fixed if it was truely community maintained? Android SW quality is a joke and everyone knows it except the trolls.
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy
I don't personally know of anyone whose ever encountered "Android malware" and doubt you have either. But I do believe you've heard someone say that Android users are constantly dealing with it so it must be true. I guess that's close enough.
Um, you or others may have encountered them without you knowing. Actually i have met several people that encountered some form of malware. I was talking with a T-Mobile sales rep at a local store, and this was BEFORE they started to carry the iPhone. What he told me is that he got a S3 for his father and his father downloads apps from Google Play and he admitted that his father had malware and that his phone was acting up. I have another person that wanted to see what the hype was around the S3 when it came out, and he downloaded some apps from Google Play and it started to act up and he returned it and found out that afterwards that the apps he downloaded were malware apps.
So, it depends on which app and whether your virus checking app can recognize it and some of them work in the background without your knowledge. So please don't insult my intelligence and don't be IGNORANT. Obviously all of the security companies that track and monitor mobile malware are watching these platforms carefully and trying to figure out how to tell how many users have been affected, so STOP YOUR AVOIDANCE OF THE TRUTH.
If only one security firm was talking about it, then maybe not, but they are ALL talking about how many different types of threats independently. I read these monthly and quarterly research papers they release as it's of interest to keep somewhat up to date. But most people don't. Most Android users I've talked to don't even know what the latest OS released from Google is unless they are using a Nexus phone, but no one I know has one, they have HTC, Samsung and most of them complain about having problems with the OS and NONE of them are running the latest OS. Most of them are running a much older OS. Go figure. Freaking stupid.
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Originally Posted by snova
no it was not.. the 8GB just showed the problem sooner. The controller is the same. it was a SW quality issue for not enabling TRIM. Google does not care about quality on the client side... they goal is to have an AD platform. Their goal is to exploit the user. No quality or protect the user. that is my point. You get what you pay for.. and you are paying for HW.. without SW quality and even if the community wanted to fix their SW problems for them for free they would not accept those changes.
It took them a freaking year to figure out they had TRIM turned off!!! how long do you think it would have taken this to get fixed if it was truely community maintained? Android SW quality is a joke and everyone knows it except the trolls.
FWIW, we have slightly more Apple products in our household than Android products.
2 Macbook Pros
1 iMac
2 iPhones
2 iPod Touches
1 iPod Nano
2 Android Phones
2 Android Nexus 7 tablets
So I would say my experience of both platforms is pretty broad. I can say with 100% certainty that I have encountered as many software quality issues on Apple devices as on Android devices. (including several hardware issues on Apple devices, HDD failure on iMac, keyboard cable failure on Macbook pro, replaced iPhone due to hardware failure).
You may live in a world of denial and internet hype but I live in a practical world and deal with these issues on a day to day basis.
So you don't believe drblank is smart?
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Originally Posted by drblank
Um, you or others may have encountered them without you knowing. Actually i have met several people that encountered some form of malware. I was talking with a T-Mobile sales rep at a local store, and this was BEFORE they started to carry the iPhone. What he told me is that he got a S3 for his father and his father downloads apps from Google Play and he admitted that his father had malware and that his phone was acting up. I have another person that wanted to see what the hype was around the S3 when it came out, and he downloaded some apps from Google Play and it started to act up and he returned it and found out that afterwards that the apps he downloaded were malware apps.
So, it depends on which app and whether your virus checking app can recognize it and some of them work in the background without your knowledge. So please don't insult my intelligence and don't be IGNORANT. Obviously all of the security companies that track and monitor mobile malware are watching these platforms carefully and trying to figure out how to tell how many users have been affected, so STOP YOUR AVOIDANCE OF THE TRUTH.
If only one security firm was talking about it, then maybe not, but they are ALL talking about how many different types of threats independently. I read these monthly and quarterly research papers they release as it's of interest to keep somewhat up to date. But most people don't. Most Android users I've talked to don't even know what the latest OS released from Google is unless they are using a Nexus phone, but no one I know has one, they have HTC, Samsung and most of them complain about having problems with the OS and NONE of them are running the latest OS. Most of them are running a much older OS. Go figure. Freaking stupid.
why do we even bother to have this conversion... I can hear the response now.. "this is all hearsay.. you didn't know the T-mobiles rep personally do you????. so its all hearsay!!!".. on and on.. like just all be blind, deaf, and mute monkeys. hear no evil, see no evil, say no evil. "Google does no evil. and there is no malware/spyware on Android. and I am going to hold by breath until I turn blue until all your Apple fans believe me!!!!"
sounds like a waste of time on both sides. go preach to an Android web site. you are spinning your wheels here.