Ugly hands ... dirty nails ... I hope my future 5S is not one of those!
That is why there is good money to be made by hand models, male and female. Name a body or body type or body part that is focus of advertising and you will find people getting paid to show their particular "perfection" off.
I'm sure you won't be forced to buy it. I doubt Apple would be stupid enough to replace the white/sliver model with champagne. It will be another color option (like the rumored gunmetal color).
I hope you are right. My concern was mainly that the white/silver and white/champagne models are not all that different, and considering (at least many sources reported that) that the black iPhone 5 clearly outsold the white one, there might be no need for two white models... Of course, I hope I'm wrong.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
There's a lesson here - if you choose to learn it. Stop criticizing things from third had rumors.
Well, I did not criticize it anywhere... I just considered the first mock-ups hitting the web pretty gross.
I hope you are right. My concern was mainly that the white/silver and white/champagne models are not all that different, and considering (at least many sources reported that) that the black iPhone 5 clearly outsold the white one, there might be no need for two white models... Of course, I hope I'm wrong.
Well, I did not criticize it anywhere... I just considered the first mock-ups hitting the web pretty gross.
Where did you hear that the black model outsold the white one? Also take a better look at the leaked photos...the champagne colored phone clearly looks different than the white/sliver one.
If they do go with 'brightly coloured, fun' cases then from a distance people will begin to think they are seeing more and more Lumia devices out in the wild - the same way that cheap Android phones are mistaken for 4/4s every day.
The fun/colourful approach could backfire in a mindspace already occupied by Nokia.
What? Apple has been doing fun/colorful all the way back to the first iMac. This isn't copying Nokia.
I didn't mean it in a derogatory way. I expect that Apple will reasonably exclude certain features from the 5C to differentiate the flagship from the budget model, some because of technical limitations, some to reduce cost, and some for marketing reasons. Maybe what I should have written is that I would prefer a white 5C barring the 5S offering some really compelling feature that's not available on the 5C.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Whining that it's last year's phone being sold as new.
Why you gotta be like that? I meant no such thing. I wasn't denigrating the C, I was complimenting it. I really like the way it looks. In white. If that's even what it really looks like. If there even really is a C.
It's always hard to tell from a picture, but I think the knee-jerk reaction that it will be ugly is unfounded. Given Apple's history, I'd be shocked if they release an ugly phone.
It's all about page hits. And mocking up an ugly, garish bling gold iPhone gets more hits, even though those doing the mock ups should know better.
And these plastic colored phones that everyone seems to be vomiting over, I bet they sell like hotcakes, especially to young people who like bright, fun colors. It's clear Apple is making sure these are two distinct portfolio of phones, serving distinct markets.
I didn't mean it in a derogatory way. I expect that Apple will reasonably exclude certain features from the 5C to differentiate the flagship from the budget model, some because of technical limitations, some to reduce cost, and some for marketing reasons. Maybe what I should have written is that I would prefer a white 5C barring the 5S offering some really compelling feature that's not available on the 5C.
Oh for sure. My guess is the 5C will probably be missing the fingerprint tech and the camera probably won't be as good as the 5S. I still think it will have everything the 4S/5 does. Brand new features and the premium design will be the upsell to the 5S, not leaving things like Siri off the 5C (as Gene Munster speculated).
If gold is bling or tasteful is not a matter of color but of context. If you have a simple navy blue leather phone case case and wear a blue business suit with a brass-color belt buckle, and gold-rim eye glasses, a gold colored phone blends in.
If you sport a grin "adorned" with a gold tooth with a diamond while wearing tacky but expensive sportswear along with a Mercedes star dangling around your neck on a fat gold chain, and combine that with a golden iPhone it shows that you have way more (illegitimate ?) money than you have taste.
It's not the color, but the who and how of the context.
I really can't figure out why every reference to gaudy gold that I've read on this site has alluded to stereotypical "others". The only people wearing lots of gold are not "others". Some are regular people, who, you know, like gold. Your comment makes you seem really out-of-touch.
I'm sure you won't be forced to buy it. I doubt Apple would be stupid enough to replace the white/sliver model with champagne. It will be another color option (like the rumored gunmetal color).
The only rumour I heard is "graphite" (grey) not gunmetal.
Even if they made a gunmetal one, they wouldn't be foolish enough to call it that either. It's a name that doesn't play well outside of the USA. You don't want the word "gun" associated with your product at all.
Edit: unless you are actually selling guns I guess.
The silver Apple logo on the champagne iPhone looks off. It won't ship with a silver Apple logo. It makes no sense.
Why wouldn't that make sense, especially if it has a white front panel? Would you expect a black logo, or a white one? I think the high end fives are getting the silver logos to complement the chamfered edges. Makes sense to me.
The silver Apple logo on the champagne iPhone looks off. It won't ship with a silver Apple logo. It makes no sense.
My guess is we're not seeing a completely finished device. Different parts in different stages of the process are leaking and being thrown together to give a feel for what a fully assembled phone would look like. The leak below from last week showed a logo that looked black.
.. It's always hard to tell from a picture, but I think the knee-jerk reaction that it will be ugly is unfounded. Given Apple's history, I'd be shocked if they release an ugly phone.
I would too ... but on the other hand they are releasing an OS called "Mavericks" with a giant fake green-blue surfer wave as the backdrop, so "classy" has apparently already left the building.
Why wouldn't that make sense, especially if it has a white front panel? Would you expect a black logo, or a white one? I think the high end fives are getting the silver logos to complement the chamfered edges. Makes sense to me.
I figured it would be the same color as the back, i.e. champagne/gold.
What? Apple has been doing fun/colorful all the way back to the first iMac. This isn't copying Nokia.
Sorry, I thought every iPhone to date has been either white or black. I was considering mindspace and visibility on the street, not ancient CRT iMacs sat on desks and iPod Nanos tucked away in coat pockets. Apple will have to do a heck of a lot of advertising to drag the fun/colourful smartphone perception away from Nokia - especially at the lower end of the pre-pay (off contract) market, which I doubt the slightly lower cost iPhone will reach.
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Originally Posted by Disturbia
Ugly hands ... dirty nails ... I hope my future 5S is not one of those!
That is why there is good money to be made by hand models, male and female. Name a body or body type or body part that is focus of advertising and you will find people getting paid to show their particular "perfection" off.
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Originally Posted by Rogifan
I'm sure you won't be forced to buy it. I doubt Apple would be stupid enough to replace the white/sliver model with champagne. It will be another color option (like the rumored gunmetal color).
I hope you are right. My concern was mainly that the white/silver and white/champagne models are not all that different, and considering (at least many sources reported that) that the black iPhone 5 clearly outsold the white one, there might be no need for two white models... Of course, I hope I'm wrong.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
There's a lesson here - if you choose to learn it. Stop criticizing things from third had rumors.
Well, I did not criticize it anywhere... I just considered the first mock-ups hitting the web pretty gross.
Where did you hear that the black model outsold the white one? Also take a better look at the leaked photos...the champagne colored phone clearly looks different than the white/sliver one.
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Originally Posted by Rogifan
What do you mean by crippled?
I didn't mean it in a derogatory way. I expect that Apple will reasonably exclude certain features from the 5C to differentiate the flagship from the budget model, some because of technical limitations, some to reduce cost, and some for marketing reasons. Maybe what I should have written is that I would prefer a white 5C barring the 5S offering some really compelling feature that's not available on the 5C.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Whining that it's last year's phone being sold as new.
Why you gotta be like that? I meant no such thing. I wasn't denigrating the C, I was complimenting it. I really like the way it looks. In white. If that's even what it really looks like. If there even really is a C.
And these plastic colored phones that everyone seems to be vomiting over, I bet they sell like hotcakes, especially to young people who like bright, fun colors. It's clear Apple is making sure these are two distinct portfolio of phones, serving distinct markets.
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Originally Posted by rcfa
If gold is bling or tasteful is not a matter of color but of context. If you have a simple navy blue leather phone case case and wear a blue business suit with a brass-color belt buckle, and gold-rim eye glasses, a gold colored phone blends in.
If you sport a grin "adorned" with a gold tooth with a diamond while wearing tacky but expensive sportswear along with a Mercedes star dangling around your neck on a fat gold chain, and combine that with a golden iPhone it shows that you have way more (illegitimate ?) money than you have taste.
It's not the color, but the who and how of the context.
I really can't figure out why every reference to gaudy gold that I've read on this site has alluded to stereotypical "others". The only people wearing lots of gold are not "others". Some are regular people, who, you know, like gold. Your comment makes you seem really out-of-touch.
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Originally Posted by Rogifan
I'm sure you won't be forced to buy it. I doubt Apple would be stupid enough to replace the white/sliver model with champagne. It will be another color option (like the rumored gunmetal color).
Gunmetal, that would be really nice! : )
Probably not the only one, but I prefer the 5S by far!
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Originally Posted by blackbook
Gunmetal will be perfect.
Finally an iPhone that matches my MBP!
The only rumour I heard is "graphite" (grey) not gunmetal.
Even if they made a gunmetal one, they wouldn't be foolish enough to call it that either. It's a name that doesn't play well outside of the USA. You don't want the word "gun" associated with your product at all.
Edit: unless you are actually selling guns I guess.
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Originally Posted by Ireland
The silver Apple logo on the champagne iPhone looks off. It won't ship with a silver Apple logo. It makes no sense.
Why wouldn't that make sense, especially if it has a white front panel? Would you expect a black logo, or a white one? I think the high end fives are getting the silver logos to complement the chamfered edges. Makes sense to me.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
.. It's always hard to tell from a picture, but I think the knee-jerk reaction that it will be ugly is unfounded. Given Apple's history, I'd be shocked if they release an ugly phone.
I would too ... but on the other hand they are releasing an OS called "Mavericks" with a giant fake green-blue surfer wave as the backdrop, so "classy" has apparently already left the building.
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Originally Posted by Richard Getz
Gunmetal, that would be really nice! : )
I have to look at more photos, but I haven't been able to detect the difference between the gunmetal and the black/slate.
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Originally Posted by Rogifan
What? Apple has been doing fun/colorful all the way back to the first iMac. This isn't copying Nokia.
Sorry, I thought every iPhone to date has been either white or black. I was considering mindspace and visibility on the street, not ancient CRT iMacs sat on desks and iPod Nanos tucked away in coat pockets. Apple will have to do a heck of a lot of advertising to drag the fun/colourful smartphone perception away from Nokia - especially at the lower end of the pre-pay (off contract) market, which I doubt the slightly lower cost iPhone will reach.
That looks like the "graphite" one.
Supposedly with black glass inserts.