Apple's new iPad mini with Retina display starts at $399, first-gen iPad mini drops to $299

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  • Reply 61 of 203
    simtubsimtub Posts: 277member
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    Originally Posted by steveH View Post

     

     

    Schools.

     

    Not to mention people/families on very tight budgets.


    you can buy an iPad mini with Retina for the same price as an iPad2....

  • Reply 62 of 203
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    Originally Posted by helicopterben View Post

     

    I will make it simple for you. Don't buy iPad mini! Go buy Nexus <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />


     

    If I were in the market for a small tablet today, I would!  And it worries me that too many other people will make the same decision.

  • Reply 63 of 203
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    Originally Posted by Slurpy View Post

     

    The entire event was awesome, pretty happy about everything EXCEPT the decision to continue selling 3 generations old iPad for $399. That's just wrong. They should have either dropped it completely, or at least updated it to use A6 chips or something. It's ancient today, and is basically a pixelized mess, A5, and outdated internals at the same price of the new iPad mini which is massively superior in every way, including 4X the pixels and a CPU/GPU thats 2 generations newer. The iPad 2 is gonna struggle with new software, especially considering most of it is being optimized for 64bit and the A7. 


     

    Not sure why we, as more tech savvy end users, would be considered with this. If selling older devices can help sustain Apple as a business and provide buyers who don't need the latest hardware with cheaper devices, then profit from those sales can be funneled into better R&D and hardware supply.

  • Reply 64 of 203
    simtubsimtub Posts: 277member

    Does anyone know the PPI of the screen of the iPad mini with retina display?

  • Reply 65 of 203
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    Does anyone know the PPI of the screen of the iPad mini with retina display?


     

    324 ppi

  • Reply 66 of 203
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    Originally Posted by wakefinance View Post

     

     

    If I were in the market for a small tablet today, I would!  And it worries me that too many other people will make the same decision.


    Why does it worry you? Why not just get what you want and need, and be happy with that?

  • Reply 67 of 203
    tjwaltjwal Posts: 404member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

    1. You’re not talking about RAM.

    2. It’s not $5 more.

    3. That’s not how things work.

    4. I’d like them to drop the 16GB, too.

     

    Agreed, I wasn't talking about RAM but yes $5 is about right. Joe Blow can buy it for $1/Gb, I'm sure Apple can get if for a lot less.

    It's the memory pricing that makes me walk away empty handed from the Apple store.
  • Reply 68 of 203
    gqbgqb Posts: 1,934member

    Regarding weight...

    iPad Air: 1 lb

    iPad 2:   1.33

    iPad 3/4: 1.5 (?)

     

    New iPad mini: .73 lb

    iPad mini: .68 lb

     

    So the mini has gotten heavier (presumably due to more battery needed. Its gotten .01" thicker as well.

    The iPad Air is nearly a half pound lighter, and considerably smaller.

     

    I had been pretty sure I'd go for the Retina mini (mostly because my left arm is starting to suffer pretty serious pain from holding it) but I'm beginning to think I may go for the Air.

  • Reply 69 of 203
    andysolandysol Posts: 2,506member
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    Originally Posted by wakefinance View Post

     

     

    The A7 doesn't cost that much more to produce than the A6X.  64 bit is wonderful, but is irrelevant with regards to pricing.


    Except it is relevant with regards to pricing.  A 5mp vs 8mp camera doesnt cost that much more.  Touch ID isn't outrageous.  Wireless AC isn't much more than N.  etc. etc.

    You've been around Apple long enough to know they don't cram everything new into their non-premium products (i.e.- not the iPhone).  At $329- it can't have everything the Full-sized iPad has at $499.

     

    Look- this is a 2-year processor jump and retina for only $70.  That's a bargain.  You have to take it all into account- where it was, and where it is.

  • Reply 70 of 203
    jkichlinejkichline Posts: 1,336member
    snowweasel wrote: »
    So, I'm pretty happy with these announcements, except... WHY IN THE WORLD would anybody get the iPad 2 at this point? I feel apple should either retire it & sell the 3 or 4 discounted, OR drop the price.
    I have users who need the screen size, but not the horsepower or Retina since my app is used on a stage for musicians. Saves them $100 to get started.
  • Reply 71 of 203
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    Originally Posted by TheOtherGeoff View Post

     

    as noted, the latter is not true and the former is a different beast altogether from a power consumption perspective.  I'm talking about cubic millimeters of battery space, and assuming that it doesn't take too many of those to be noticed missing.... with  that, and if the corresponding use of the touchID interface pushed the battery life negative (it's gotta be more than just a home button press... lots of power to scan the finger) to the current ipad, it was likely a really hard sell to put it in place and say.... "we just lost 30 minutes putting TouchID in, and 5 minutes of video playback time loss for every authentication...." (All number fabricated to protect the ignorant;-);-))


    How do you know the latter is not true? You're making a lot of assumptions.

  • Reply 72 of 203
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    Originally Posted by allenbf View Post



    I'm not complaining but at 399 and the smaller form factor and weight, I will probably opt for the iPad Air.

    my guess is that the 

    .99 4s

    99 5c 

    199 5c /5s

    299 Mini /5s 32Gb

    399 iPad 2/Mini Retina

    499 16gb iPadAir

    599 32gb iPadAir 

    699  64gb iPadAir

     

    hit's all the price points apple sees as 'attractive' (in their multi-equation problem... maximize profit, minimize product defects, maximize sales, customer satisfaction, and potential customer desire [It's worth it, I just can't afford it yet ])

     

    I am surprise they haven't compressed a bit at the low end.   Me thinks that the next tick of the tock clock will have these prices adjust as the Mini Retina display (that's a lot of PPI) ramps production.... with a 

    249 349 old/new retina mini

    399 499 ipad old/iPad new

     

    That seems to be a better long term fit... but my guess is the iPad mini retina is an expensive [at apple's margins] beast to make  (remember it's not subsidized like the iPhone, but has a display nearly as dense, and 4x larger... which is a huge amount of 'perfect glass' you need to construct ), relative to it's size.

  • Reply 73 of 203
    Originally Posted by tjwal View Post

    Agreed, I wasn't talking about RAM but yes $5 is about right. Joe Blow can buy it for $1/Gb, I'm sure Apple can get if for a lot less.



    It's the memory pricing that makes me walk away empty handed from the Apple store.

     

    Wait, no… it’s not… You don’t seem to understand. John Q. Public can’t buy NAND storage like this.

  • Reply 74 of 203
    jkichlinejkichline Posts: 1,336member
    324 ppi
    No, it would be much higher. Same number of pixels as the 9.7" version crammed into 7.9"
  • Reply 75 of 203

    Guys I think most people must be aware that iPad Air and iPad mini with Retina Display has exactly the same specs except screen size, dimensions, weight and PRICE POINTS.

     

    Which one to get? That is the question.  $100 cheaper for iPad mini with Retina Display and lastest spec as well.

     

    BTW, with the naming of iPad Air, according to one of the posts I have no doubt that there will be an iPad Pro coming next year.  I will not wait for that because I am using the original iPad and I want to align my Apple devices to the same years (not possible on the 15" MacBook Pro with Retina Display mid 2012 because I bought it last year and it still work like a charm - might replace it after 5 years i.e. year when iPhone 7s comes out) but I've already got an iPhone 5s to replace my iPhone 4S.  I really want to know what you guys think of this.

  • Reply 76 of 203
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    Originally Posted by Andysol View Post

     

    Except it is relevant with regards to pricing.  A 5mp vs 8mp camera doesnt cost that much more.  Touch ID isn't outrageous.  Wireless AC isn't much more than N.  etc. etc.

    You've been around Apple long enough to know they don't cram everything new into their non-premium products (i.e.- not the iPhone).  At $329- it can't have everything the Full-sized iPad has at $499.

     

    Look- this is a 2-year processor jump and retina for only $70.  That's a bargain.  You have to take it all into account- where it was, and where it is.


    True. Except that this is the first time ever Apple has raised the price of an iProduct. Every year before this, they have kept pricing the same (of course, there was a price drop in the first year) regardless of what new features they added.

  • Reply 77 of 203
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    Originally Posted by LJC94512 View Post

     

    Guys I think most people must be aware that iPad Air and iPad mini with Retina Display has exactly the same specs except screen size, dimensions, weight and PRICE POINTS.

     

    Which one to get? That is the question.  $100 cheaper for iPad mini with Retina Display and lastest spec as well.

     

    BTW, with the naming of iPad Air, according to one of the posts I have no doubt that there will be an iPad Pro coming next year. 


    You have no doubt .... and no proof. :)

  • Reply 78 of 203
    dugbugdugbug Posts: 283member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

     

    Buy your own. They want everyone to have one. It’s not that difficult to understand.

     

    Here:


     

    Multiuser is a valid feature request, no need to be snarky.

  • Reply 79 of 203
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    Originally Posted by jkichline View Post





    No, it would be much higher. Same number of pixels as the 9.7" version crammed into 7.9"

    But iPad (at 9.7") is not at 324 ppi.

  • Reply 80 of 203
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    Originally Posted by StruckPaper View Post

     

    How do you know the latter is not true? You're making a lot of assumptions.


    http://store.apple.com/us/ipad/compare

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