Note that according to the above two oft-referenced organizations not "every single reliable source" agrees with your claims. Don't be so quick to pronounce everyone who disagrees with you is "totally wrong".
StatCounter and Net Applications disagree about the best way to measure browser usage, but for August, they agreed on one thing: Microsoft's Internet Explorer had something of a resurgence.
The two firms use different methodology to measure browser usage -- for example, StatCounter measures all page views to its network of Web sites while Net Applications only counts one per day to try to measure users more than usage. As a result, StatCounter namesGoogle's 5-year-old Chrome as the top browser, but Net Applications gives the honor to IE.
Market share is dominated by IE. Only recent 2013 links.
Gosh I hate IE too, what a worthless piece of crap browser. Their mobile and Metro version is okay but why do people continue to use it on theridesktop is beyond me. Especially when there are so many better ones available.
They discontinued push email, now only available to paid customers. Normally a company goes about this stuff the other way, a paid service becoming free.
Labels, no folders, the design from hell. Elderly, or children, myself, cannot comprehend this concept, as everything in computerland is organised in folders. The filesystem, mail, music, photos…
Spam filter…just doesn’t work. It really doesn’t check domain names to see if they’re authentic, well-established firms. To think it is useful to mark mail as spam because another Gmail users tagged it as spam is, well, dumb.
Doesn’t load images in html email.
And I think they scan your emails for keywords to create ‘useful advertisements’, just like Yahoo. Erm, no thanks.
Display density? Doesn’t the Gmail team have anything better to do? And if not, don’t do anything, instead of creating utter useless crap.
Compose new email window…with a toolbar at the bottom. Well, it’s new, gotta hand it to them for that one. “It’s a window Jim, but not as we know it”
'Chat spam' beneath my ‘labels’, many people want to Chat with me, since I don't know them, shouldn’t they be in my spam folder, nee, label?
And I think their April Fools' Day jokes are misplaced.
Can't send an .exe attachment, even when compressed. If they scan peoples mail anyway, they ought to understand why to sysadmins are sending .exe files to each other.
Gmail. "The only mail service with no legitimate expectation of privacy".
Touché
Other than that, how'd you like the play, Mrs Lincoln?
They are not for every purpose. The message is clear:
Usage? Chrome.
Market share? IE.
in both, IE goes up, chrome flat or down.
Geez, you really don't understand anything I said do you. I realize you believe what you believe and have sources to back you up. Others might believe what they want, and they too have sources to back up what they believe. Claiming anyone leaning either way is "totally wrong" as you did is, well, totally wrong. And just to be clear I've not come down on either side. Chrome may be rising, or falling. IE may lead in market share, or not, and even that depends on how you're defining "market share". The point I've tried to make (unsuccessfully it seems) is there's not any crystal clear irrefutable proof for your assertions or Relics. The truth may belong to you or her or more likely exist somewhere in the middle. Even today's supposed facts can turn into fiction tomorrow.
Of course you're free to believe what you want based on what sources you've chosen to accept and definitions you've chosen to use. Heck, you don't have to have any evidence at all, just go by pure emotion. That doesn't prove anyone else "totally wrong". Would you settle for maybe a little wrong, but a little right?
Aren't Gmail labels similar in function to the new finder tags in Mavericks, which have been hailed by some as the future of file management? Traditional folders are a supposedly a thing of the past.
That's an add-on and can be ignored as we still have a hierarchical filesystem.
Geez, you really don't understand anything I said do you. I realize you believe what you believe and have sources to back you up. Others might believe what they want, and they too have sources to back up what they believe. Claiming anyone leaning either way is "totally wrong" as you did is, well, totally wrong. And just to be clear I've not come down on either side. Chrome may be rising, or falling. IE may lead in market share, or not, and even that depends on how you're defining "market share". The point I've tried to make (unsuccessfully it seems) is there's not any crystal clear irrefutable proof for your assertions or Relics. The truth may belong to you or her or more likely exist somewhere in the middle. Even today's supposed facts can turn into fiction tomorrow.
Of course you're free to believe what you want based on what sources you've chosen to accept and definitions you've chosen to use. Heck, you don't have to have any evidence at all, just go by pure emotion. That doesn't prove anyone else "totally wrong". Would you settle for maybe a little wrong, but a little right?
I don't mind Labels, they work the same as folders so.
Fair enough, I just get a lot of questions as I'm the nerd amongst friends and family and tell them that, yet they still cannot 'make the mental switch'. Or something.
The push mail thing doesn't bother me as I would never, ever use Gmail or any other free email service for business and I don't think you would and I don't think you either, would, so who really cares.
True. Besides, I already have push mail from Apple. Which just reminds me: I used to pay for it, but now it's free. That's the opposite of push email from Gmail.
The Picture thing is a pain though but if you use the gmail.com interface it shows them just fine.
Funny that, I see the pictures load on OSX Mail.app but not on gmail.com.
I have never seen this chat spam before, maybe you are just a very popular, lovable person. Do you use your Google username to chat in public rooms?
You're being very kind, but nope, not popular. Or at least not in Gmail, as I hardly use it. Like you, I use it for forums, like this site, though I have moved that to some obscure mail service in China, free, and I don't need to send mails from this account anyway. But yeah, the 'Chat requests' in the left hand column is really weird, but I only see it on gmail.com, where I never actually goto, so no issue.
MS Cloud info
They seem to be the cheapest, and if you can upload movies and all that's great. Certainly not something I'd expect Apple to allow.
1GB film in under 15 minutes, I do have a fiber connection, 100Mbits Down, 10Mbits
You you you, lucky you. I'm still on old school DSL, sold as 4 down, 2 up and getting 2.3Mb/1Mb. Couple of months ago they did put fiber in the ground, the whole area, slowly doing the whole city. Well, whole, it's not even half a million residents. Just don't know how long it takes for them to be able to offer it.
Sorry about going off of a tangent like that, I think I'm just lonely lying here, talking helps, even if it's to my computer. I'm using voice dictation because typing, even on a virtual keyboard actually tires me out, anyway you should see the looks people give me when they walk passed my room, who is that lady talking too. Poor thing she's delusional, of course my response of, "oh I'm just talking to my computer", doesn't really help my case much, as you can well imagine.
Thanks for listening,
Bye
No no, don't be sorry. I like your stories, feel for you, like your humor, appreciate your technical posts and all. So, talk away, no matter what hospital visitors and doctors say. Here, or in your remission thread.
Windows sucks. Seriously, Safari wasn't gaining any ground on Windows. Pulling the plug was cheaper than continue developing safari for windows. Besides, what did Apple really gain from it?
Windows sucks. Seriously, Safari wasn't gaining any ground on Windows. Pulling the plug was cheaper than continue developing safari for windows. Besides, what did Apple really gain from it?
That makes sense, I liked it though, maybe I can convince Apple to give me the source code so I can start a sourceforge project. OpenSafari, available on all platforms including BeOS, SkyOS, Amiga, etc. why (just because I happen to run them in a virtual machine), she'll go every which way, sluttiest browser ever, with Siri like voice commands, dominatrix personality module is a separate download. I use Opera and Chrome now, mostly Chrome because it's available on every platform. I like it when I get up from my computer and continue where I left off on my iPad. I know it's the same deal with Safari but I have so many different computer platforms it's nice to have at least one constant. So it's Chrome and Skydrive, available on everything except maybe QNX, I don't know haven't checked.
Since I'm currently in the hospital the kids have been uploading movies to my Skydrive account as well and what's great is, the Skydrive app for my iPad can stream those movies without having to download them, pretty awesome. Apple will probably never offer a feature like that because they expect you to use iTunes for that, same reason why their codec selection is so sparse, which is perfectly fine it's their prerogative. We have an extensive DVD and Blueray collection which the kids have ripped into MP4's and DIVX and the ease at which they can upload them to my Skydrive storage it only strengthened my decision to go with them.
This is using the built in features of iOS and has always been there, I used to do the same with my old iDisk when it was part of MobileMe.
This idea that people are restricted to iTunes purchases with Apple devices is a furphy, since day one of iTunes (the software) content has been able to be imported into your library from any source a user cared to use.
No no, don't be sorry. I like your stories, feel for you, like your humor, appreciate your technical posts and all. So, talk away, no matter what hospital visitors and doctors say. Here, or in your remission thread.
I wish my last name was Boogie, just so I could here my name being called out at a restraunt, "Boogie a party of 4", "Boogie a party of 4", then of course I would push play on my Casio CK-200 single cassette BoomBox with the built in keyboard on top in case I need to go into a solo from the bridge section of Harold Faltermeyer's Axel F, that I aquired after a heated bidding war on eBay with the user wheresthebeef84 who coincidently was the jerk who outbid me days early for a semi-mint condition Teddy Ruxpin, mint except for a stuck copy of Eddie Murphy's RAW, .............. busting out the soundtrack to, "Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo".
Thank you so much for your kind words, I love English, funny language.
No no, don't be sorry. I like your stories, feel for you, like your humor, appreciate your technical posts and all. So, talk away, no matter what hospital visitors and doctors say. Here, or in your remission thread.
I wish my last name was Boogie, just so I could here my name being called out at a restraunt, "Boogie a party of 4", "Boogie a party of 4", then of course I would push play on my Casio CK-200 single cassette BoomBox with the built in keyboard on top in case I need to go into a solo from the bridge section of Harold Faltermeyer's Axel F, that I aquired after a heated bidding war on eBay with the user wheresthebeef84 who coincidently was the jerk who outbid me days early for a semi-mint condition Teddy Ruxpin, mint except for a stuck copy of Eddie Murphy's RAW, .............. busting out the soundtrack to, "Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo".
Thank you so much for your kind words, I love English, funny language.
"Boogie a party of 4", "Boogie a party of 4"... Now, that's funny!
As one of my dumber purchases, i bought an Apple iPod HiFi Boom Box.
But it more than paid for itself on one occasion:
A few years ago. the neighbor over our back fence organized an amateur band and they would rehearse every night from about 5:30 to about 10:30. They only new one song -- and played it badly, but loudly, over and over and over....
Despite several polite requests from me and nearby neighbors -- this continued for about a week -- ruining otherwise beautiful warm spring evenings. At the end of my patience I checked with the neighbors, took the boom box out to the back patio, cranked up the volume to the max on a March I downloaded from iTunes:
Gosh I hate IE too, what a worthless piece of crap browser. Their mobile and Metro version is okay but why do people continue to use it on theridesktop is beyond me. Especially when there are so many better ones available.
I've always used firefox, but lately it's really buggy with flash. If I switched browsers, it would be Chrome. I hate IE, and I don't care for Safari.
I've always used firefox, but lately it's really buggy with flash. If I switched browsers, it would be Chrome. I hate IE, and I don't care for Safari.
I used to use nothing but Firefox, the last few versions though have been nothing short of garbage. I have never seen a browser freeze so often, even with just 5 tabs opened. I know the hatred for Google is strong here but Chrome is really the best browser, even on my iPad I prefer it. I use Opera on Windows 8 tablet, they have a beta version for Metro that's pretty great.
I used to use nothing but Firefox, the last few versions though have been nothing short of garbage. I have never seen a browser freeze so often, even with just 5 tabs opened. I know the hatred for Google is strong here but Chrome is really the best browser, even on my iPad I prefer it. I use Opera on Windows 8 tablet, they have a beta version for Metro that's pretty great.
I have chrome installed. As far as I can recall a couple things didn't work properly and I returned to Firefox. It does use too much memory.
I have chrome installed. As far as I can recall a couple things didn't work properly and I returned to Firefox. It does use too much memory.
It is a memory hog when compared to other browsers but it has the most efficient memory management of them all. Does memory really matter, every device I own has more then enough memory except well maybe for my iPad, it still blows my mind that Apple considers 1GB as acceptable nowadays. Great CPU though, wow is it fast.
Comments
http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php
http://www.techspot.com/news/53166-statcounter-google-chrome-is-dominating-the-browser-industry.html
Note that according to the above two oft-referenced organizations not "every single reliable source" agrees with your claims. Don't be so quick to pronounce everyone who disagrees with you is "totally wrong".
Where did you get those numbers from -> http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
These numbers change constantly, here are real time percentages -> http://percentoftheinternet.com/
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57582279-93/ie-10-doubles-its-share-of-desktop-browser-market/
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57605422-93/ie-usage-resurges-in-september-new-stats-report/
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57600951-93/analytics-firms-agree-on-august-resurgence-for-microsoft-ie/
StatCounter and Net Applications disagree about the best way to measure browser usage, but for August, they agreed on one thing: Microsoft's Internet Explorer had something of a resurgence.
The two firms use different methodology to measure browser usage -- for example, StatCounter measures all page views to its network of Web sites while Net Applications only counts one per day to try to measure users more than usage. As a result, StatCounter namesGoogle's 5-year-old Chrome as the top browser, but Net Applications gives the honor to IE.
http://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=2&qpcustomd=0
More used? Chrome. Most users? IE by far.
That was my point, but Gatorguy couldn't decipher it.
Regular internet user (say typical tech blog reader): Most likely to use chrome.
Others: IE.
And since both principal sources agree that IE is going UP, well, you get the rest.
Market share is dominated by IE. Only recent 2013 links.
Well there you go, just as I said and you found out for yourself when you went looking. Stats for every purpose and proving every viewpoint.
Market share is dominated by IE. Only recent 2013 links.
Gosh I hate IE too, what a worthless piece of crap browser. Their mobile and Metro version is okay but why do people continue to use it on theridesktop is beyond me. Especially when there are so many better ones available.
Other than that, how'd you like the play, Mrs Lincoln?
Well there you go, just as I said and you found out for yourself when you went looking. Stats for every purpose and proving every viewpoint.
They are not for every purpose. The message is clear:
Usage? Chrome.
Market share? IE.
in both, IE goes up, chrome flat or down.
Geez, you really don't understand anything I said do you. I realize you believe what you believe and have sources to back you up. Others might believe what they want, and they too have sources to back up what they believe. Claiming anyone leaning either way is "totally wrong" as you did is, well, totally wrong. And just to be clear I've not come down on either side. Chrome may be rising, or falling. IE may lead in market share, or not, and even that depends on how you're defining "market share". The point I've tried to make (unsuccessfully it seems) is there's not any crystal clear irrefutable proof for your assertions or Relics. The truth may belong to you or her or more likely exist somewhere in the middle. Even today's supposed facts can turn into fiction tomorrow.
Of course you're free to believe what you want based on what sources you've chosen to accept and definitions you've chosen to use. Heck, you don't have to have any evidence at all, just go by pure emotion. That doesn't prove anyone else "totally wrong". Would you settle for maybe a little wrong, but a little right?
That's an add-on and can be ignored as we still have a hierarchical filesystem.
Geez, you really don't understand anything I said do you. I realize you believe what you believe and have sources to back you up. Others might believe what they want, and they too have sources to back up what they believe. Claiming anyone leaning either way is "totally wrong" as you did is, well, totally wrong. And just to be clear I've not come down on either side. Chrome may be rising, or falling. IE may lead in market share, or not, and even that depends on how you're defining "market share". The point I've tried to make (unsuccessfully it seems) is there's not any crystal clear irrefutable proof for your assertions or Relics. The truth may belong to you or her or more likely exist somewhere in the middle. Even today's supposed facts can turn into fiction tomorrow.
Of course you're free to believe what you want based on what sources you've chosen to accept and definitions you've chosen to use. Heck, you don't have to have any evidence at all, just go by pure emotion. That doesn't prove anyone else "totally wrong". Would you settle for maybe a little wrong, but a little right?
IE sucks prove me wrong, hehehehe.
Luv yea!
Why did Apple stop producing Safari for Windows?
Fair enough, I just get a lot of questions as I'm the nerd amongst friends and family and tell them that, yet they still cannot 'make the mental switch'. Or something.
True. Besides, I already have push mail from Apple. Which just reminds me: I used to pay for it, but now it's free. That's the opposite of push email from Gmail.
Funny that, I see the pictures load on OSX Mail.app but not on gmail.com.
You're being very kind, but nope, not popular. Or at least not in Gmail, as I hardly use it. Like you, I use it for forums, like this site, though I have moved that to some obscure mail service in China, free, and I don't need to send mails from this account anyway. But yeah, the 'Chat requests' in the left hand column is really weird, but I only see it on gmail.com, where I never actually goto, so no issue.
They seem to be the cheapest, and if you can upload movies and all that's great. Certainly not something I'd expect Apple to allow.
You you you, lucky you. I'm still on old school DSL, sold as 4 down, 2 up and getting 2.3Mb/1Mb. Couple of months ago they did put fiber in the ground, the whole area, slowly doing the whole city. Well, whole, it's not even half a million residents. Just don't know how long it takes for them to be able to offer it.
No no, don't be sorry. I like your stories, feel for you, like your humor, appreciate your technical posts and all. So, talk away, no matter what hospital visitors and doctors say. Here, or in your remission thread.
Windows sucks. Seriously, Safari wasn't gaining any ground on Windows. Pulling the plug was cheaper than continue developing safari for windows. Besides, what did Apple really gain from it?
Windows sucks. Seriously, Safari wasn't gaining any ground on Windows. Pulling the plug was cheaper than continue developing safari for windows. Besides, what did Apple really gain from it?
That makes sense, I liked it though, maybe I can convince Apple to give me the source code so I can start a sourceforge project. OpenSafari, available on all platforms including BeOS, SkyOS, Amiga, etc. why (just because I happen to run them in a virtual machine), she'll go every which way, sluttiest browser ever, with Siri like voice commands, dominatrix personality module is a separate download. I use Opera and Chrome now, mostly Chrome because it's available on every platform. I like it when I get up from my computer and continue where I left off on my iPad. I know it's the same deal with Safari but I have so many different computer platforms it's nice to have at least one constant. So it's Chrome and Skydrive, available on everything except maybe QNX, I don't know haven't checked.
Since I'm currently in the hospital the kids have been uploading movies to my Skydrive account as well and what's great is, the Skydrive app for my iPad can stream those movies without having to download them, pretty awesome. Apple will probably never offer a feature like that because they expect you to use iTunes for that, same reason why their codec selection is so sparse, which is perfectly fine it's their prerogative. We have an extensive DVD and Blueray collection which the kids have ripped into MP4's and DIVX and the ease at which they can upload them to my Skydrive storage it only strengthened my decision to go with them.
This is using the built in features of iOS and has always been there, I used to do the same with my old iDisk when it was part of MobileMe.
This idea that people are restricted to iTunes purchases with Apple devices is a furphy, since day one of iTunes (the software) content has been able to be imported into your library from any source a user cared to use.
No no, don't be sorry. I like your stories, feel for you, like your humor, appreciate your technical posts and all. So, talk away, no matter what hospital visitors and doctors say. Here, or in your remission thread.
I wish my last name was Boogie, just so I could here my name being called out at a restraunt, "Boogie a party of 4", "Boogie a party of 4", then of course I would push play on my Casio CK-200 single cassette BoomBox with the built in keyboard on top in case I need to go into a solo from the bridge section of Harold Faltermeyer's Axel F, that I aquired after a heated bidding war on eBay with the user wheresthebeef84 who coincidently was the jerk who outbid me days early for a semi-mint condition Teddy Ruxpin, mint except for a stuck copy of Eddie Murphy's RAW, .............. busting out the soundtrack to, "Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo".
Thank you so much for your kind words, I love English, funny language.
"Boogie a party of 4", "Boogie a party of 4"... Now, that's funny!
As one of my dumber purchases, i bought an Apple iPod HiFi Boom Box.
But it more than paid for itself on one occasion:
A few years ago. the neighbor over our back fence organized an amateur band and they would rehearse every night from about 5:30 to about 10:30. They only new one song -- and played it badly, but loudly, over and over and over....
Despite several polite requests from me and nearby neighbors -- this continued for about a week -- ruining otherwise beautiful warm spring evenings. At the end of my patience I checked with the neighbors, took the boom box out to the back patio, cranked up the volume to the max on a March I downloaded from iTunes:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/not-sousa-great-marches-not/id191950071
Number #1 National Emblem
I let this go for a couple of choruses, then turned it off.... Crickets... Blessed Silence.
"Oh, the monkey wrapped his tail around the flagpole, and let the wind blow..."
Gosh I hate IE too, what a worthless piece of crap browser. Their mobile and Metro version is okay but why do people continue to use it on theridesktop is beyond me. Especially when there are so many better ones available.
I've always used firefox, but lately it's really buggy with flash. If I switched browsers, it would be Chrome. I hate IE, and I don't care for Safari.
"Boogie a party of 4", "Boogie a party of 4"
Too funny!
"I love English, funny language"
Not as funny as you.
All off topic, but for the right reasons.
I've always used firefox, but lately it's really buggy with flash. If I switched browsers, it would be Chrome. I hate IE, and I don't care for Safari.
I used to use nothing but Firefox, the last few versions though have been nothing short of garbage. I have never seen a browser freeze so often, even with just 5 tabs opened. I know the hatred for Google is strong here but Chrome is really the best browser, even on my iPad I prefer it. I use Opera on Windows 8 tablet, they have a beta version for Metro that's pretty great.
I used to use nothing but Firefox, the last few versions though have been nothing short of garbage. I have never seen a browser freeze so often, even with just 5 tabs opened. I know the hatred for Google is strong here but Chrome is really the best browser, even on my iPad I prefer it. I use Opera on Windows 8 tablet, they have a beta version for Metro that's pretty great.
I have chrome installed. As far as I can recall a couple things didn't work properly and I returned to Firefox. It does use too much memory.
I have chrome installed. As far as I can recall a couple things didn't work properly and I returned to Firefox. It does use too much memory.
It is a memory hog when compared to other browsers but it has the most efficient memory management of them all. Does memory really matter, every device I own has more then enough memory except well maybe for my iPad, it still blows my mind that Apple considers 1GB as acceptable nowadays. Great CPU though, wow is it fast.