I have yet to see this story appear on places like Engadget or TheVerge, no doubt they don't want their forums to explode due to Fandroids claiming it's acceptable
I suspect Scott Wilson will defend it (and blame Apple for doing it) should it ever appear on CNet
I notice the article is over 10 years old (24th June 2003), obviously you had to dredge deep to find that one
And if you read the article it doesn't really show Apple blatantly cheating, suggests that other vendors are cheating too, and even states that at least Apple notes how it's choosing its benchmarks, but most of all it has nothing to do with anything to do with this article.
IOW, there is no clear demarcation with that decade old article that shows Apple's OS detecting specific benchmarks to run at artificially high speeds that are otherwise not allowed by typical apps under any circumstances. It's just the same as what Apple and every vendor does now when they chose the benchmark results that look best for marketing.
I have yet to see this story appear on places like Engadget or TheVerge, no doubt they don't want their forums to explode due to Fandroids claiming it's acceptable
I suspect Scott Wilson will defend it (and blame Apple for doing it) should it ever appear on CNet
So it's Apple that is paying benchmark companies to delist cheaters, huh? Do these fandroids want desperately to believe in their fantasy benchmarks so they can feel good about whatever phone they bought?
So it's Apple that is paying benchmark companies to delist cheaters, huh? Do these fandroids want desperately to believe in their fantasy benchmarks so they can feel good about whatever phone they bought?
It seems so, judging by some of the comments and one star reviews here.
These Android guys can't handle anything detracting from their decision to purchase also ran products.
How to shoot an Android guy down using an iPhone 5s.
Hold your phone next to theirs, open camera apps together, put latest and greatest Samsung Note 3 or S4 in burst mode then hold down camera icon on both phones...
...BOOM headshot, they will be left in a whimpering mess as this demonstration of 64bit power blows them away.
So it's Apple that is paying benchmark companies to delist cheaters, huh? Do these fandroids want desperately to believe in their fantasy benchmarks so they can feel good about whatever phone they bought?
It's one thing for someone to think systems throttling when they sense different benchmarks is the same as Turbo Mode in a CPU. It's completely ignorant but I can see how the les than astute person can be confused by the very real differences between them. But to blame Apple for other vendors artificially making their benchmarks look better is just crazy.
The worst part of all these vendors cheating is it only helps by a small percentage point, and not enough to make or break a sale, but probably enough to lose even more trust in that vendor. Moto, Asus and Apple are the prominent ones that don't seem to have cheated.
Any reasonable person who reads your entire linked article would not conclude that Apple cheated 10 years ago. The last three paragraphs sum it up perfectly.
Are you suggesting that NTC and Samsung are not cheating in these benchmarks? Or would you prefer to distract everyone with 10 year old stories?
I'll make you a deal, I'll stay on topic if you will.... deal?
Completely and utterly irrelevant here. This is literally the government’s job: to protect its citizens. Enough of your purposefully confrontational BS.
Completely and utterly irrelevant here. This is literally the government’s job: to protect its citizens. Enough of your purposefully confrontational BS.
I thought you were joking because if Apple was doing this there would be some Senator that would expect Tim Cook to personally tell him why Apple does this (and then he'd ask him why he can't see his grandkids shared photos in the Camera app).
This is not something the government will ever be involved with. The companies that manage the tests will do a fine job of killing results from anyone that dopes their scores but even then the vendor does has a right to alter how their system work on different conditions so this is purely an ethical and not a legal issue.
The worst part of all these vendors cheating is it only helps by a small percentage point, and not enough to make or break a sale, but probably enough to lose even more trust in that vendor. Moto, Asus and Apple are the prominent ones that don't seem to have cheated.
Then why do it? What benefit does cheating a little known test have? The upside is minimal.
Then why do it? What benefit does cheating a little known test have? The upside is minimal.
They clearly think there is an upside that outweighs the downsides but I certainly don't see it. It might the just be immature programmers that think that also think that speeding for a few miles down an open highway is worth a ticket costing a few hundred dollars. I say this because it's not universally done across any vendor and there are clearly a lot more phones that don't employ this foolish technique, however it's almost always the higher-end and/or devices with the most mindshare coming out of the gate that have shown to be doped for the benchmark tests.
Completely and utterly irrelevant here. This is literally the government’s job: to protect its citizens. Enough of your purposefully confrontational BS.
From cheated on benchmark tests? You expect a bunch of cheaters to catch other cheaters?
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Just imagine the uproar if Apple did this. We'd never hear the end of it.
Sure, Apple is a total stranger to benchmark cheating : http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/06/24/apple_accused_of_cheating_over/ written by the same author.
I have yet to see this story appear on places like Engadget or TheVerge, no doubt they don't want their forums to explode due to Fandroids claiming it's acceptable
I suspect Scott Wilson will defend it (and blame Apple for doing it) should it ever appear on CNet
Sure, Apple is a total stranger to benchmark cheating : http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/06/24/apple_accused_of_cheating_over/ written by the same author.
I notice the article is over 10 years old (24th June 2003), obviously you had to dredge deep to find that one
PS: Check out [B]ddriver[/B]'s comments at AnandTech on how this is all an evil plot by Apple. He must be chummy with [B]tooltalk[/B].
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And if you read the article it doesn't really show Apple blatantly cheating, suggests that other vendors are cheating too, and even states that at least Apple notes how it's choosing its benchmarks, but most of all it has nothing to do with anything to do with this article.
IOW, there is no clear demarcation with that decade old article that shows Apple's OS detecting specific benchmarks to run at artificially high speeds that are otherwise not allowed by typical apps under any circumstances. It's just the same as what Apple and every vendor does now when they chose the benchmark results that look best for marketing.
So it was ok to do it 10 years ago?
keep drinking you apple juice
I have yet to see this story appear on places like Engadget or TheVerge, no doubt they don't want their forums to explode due to Fandroids claiming it's acceptable
I suspect Scott Wilson will defend it (and blame Apple for doing it) should it ever appear on CNet
/ahem
keep drinking you apple juice
Stop calling me apple juice!
Oh...
Educate yourself…
So it's Apple that is paying benchmark companies to delist cheaters, huh? Do these fandroids want desperately to believe in their fantasy benchmarks so they can feel good about whatever phone they bought?
So it's Apple that is paying benchmark companies to delist cheaters, huh? Do these fandroids want desperately to believe in their fantasy benchmarks so they can feel good about whatever phone they bought?
It seems so, judging by some of the comments and one star reviews here.
These Android guys can't handle anything detracting from their decision to purchase also ran products.
How to shoot an Android guy down using an iPhone 5s.
Hold your phone next to theirs, open camera apps together, put latest and greatest Samsung Note 3 or S4 in burst mode then hold down camera icon on both phones...
...BOOM headshot, they will be left in a whimpering mess as this demonstration of 64bit power blows them away.
It's one thing for someone to think systems throttling when they sense different benchmarks is the same as Turbo Mode in a CPU. It's completely ignorant but I can see how the les than astute person can be confused by the very real differences between them. But to blame Apple for other vendors artificially making their benchmarks look better is just crazy.
The worst part of all these vendors cheating is it only helps by a small percentage point, and not enough to make or break a sale, but probably enough to lose even more trust in that vendor. Moto, Asus and Apple are the prominent ones that don't seem to have cheated.
Any reasonable person who reads your entire linked article would not conclude that Apple cheated 10 years ago. The last three paragraphs sum it up perfectly.
Are you suggesting that NTC and Samsung are not cheating in these benchmarks? Or would you prefer to distract everyone with 10 year old stories?
I'll make you a deal, I'll stay on topic if you will.... deal?
Completely and utterly irrelevant here. This is literally the government’s job: to protect its citizens. Enough of your purposefully confrontational BS.
I thought you were joking because if Apple was doing this there would be some Senator that would expect Tim Cook to personally tell him why Apple does this (and then he'd ask him why he can't see his grandkids shared photos in the Camera app).
This is not something the government will ever be involved with. The companies that manage the tests will do a fine job of killing results from anyone that dopes their scores but even then the vendor does has a right to alter how their system work on different conditions so this is purely an ethical and not a legal issue.
Then why do it? What benefit does cheating a little known test have? The upside is minimal.
They clearly think there is an upside that outweighs the downsides but I certainly don't see it. It might the just be immature programmers that think that also think that speeding for a few miles down an open highway is worth a ticket costing a few hundred dollars. I say this because it's not universally done across any vendor and there are clearly a lot more phones that don't employ this foolish technique, however it's almost always the higher-end and/or devices with the most mindshare coming out of the gate that have shown to be doped for the benchmark tests.
From cheated on benchmark tests? You expect a bunch of cheaters to catch other cheaters?