Are we looking at 300 dpi (at last?) on a desktop?
It's hard to tell from that image but that might not be 16:9 but instead one of the other variances like 1.85:1 or 1.90:1. If we assume 16:9 we're looking at 7680×4320 which is 33.1 million pixels or 16x that of 1080p and a PPI that's still not quite 300 at 283.33.
But how would all this run? For 4K you need DP1.2 or HDMI 2.0 for 60Hz, and I don't think either of these supports higher Hz or 3D. It's 8K is 4 times the number of pixels of 4K but I think you need less than 2x the bandwidth which could mean 2xHDMI2.0/DP1.2 could support around 35Gbit/s but I assume this would all need an expensive device to interpolate the streams. With no mention of DP 1.3 I will be somewhat surprised if this ever hits the market and really surprised if it's under $15k.
With no mention of DP 1.3 I will be somewhat surprised if this ever hits the market and really surprised if it's under $15k.
DP 1.2 was finalized back around the end or 2009. It took over a year to gain any traction in specialty markets. It's still not entirely down to the mainstream, although I am less forgiving when it comes to products that exist in the higher price tiers. Displayport 1.3 was technically announced, but the spec isn't finalized. As for Eizo, they cater to a lot of specialty markets. I have noticed with them and NEC that the technology does trickle down to some of their lines in the $500-2000 range.
Panasonic Lumix DMC-GM1 Review: The Lumix DMC-GM1 was announced October 2013, as a first truly "micro" Micro Four Thirds camera. Compare to its predecessor, Panasonic GX7, the GM1 inherits almost all of the same imaging capabilities, with just a few compromises to accommodate its small size, namely the lack of an electronic viewfinder and an articulated LCD monitor. It's diminutive yet powerful. The DMC-GM1 also features full HD 1920 x 1080 60P/50P high quality video recording in AVCHD and MP4* with stereo sound.
Aunsoft Video Converter for Mac, an excellent AVCHD to Mac converter, can transcode AVCHD to iMovie, AVCHD to QuickTime, AVCHD to Avid, AVCHD to Adobe Premiere/Sony Vegas, AVCHD to FCE, etc. this program is professional to convert AVCHD files to Apple ProRes codec, ProRes 422, ProRes 4444, DVCPRO HD, XDCAM, and HDV included, that FCP will accept.
This tutorial is about what preset to use to maintain original AVCHD settings (1080p 50p) when transcoding Panasonic Lumix DMC-GM1 AVCHD progressive recordings to Apple ProRes 422 for FCP with this AVCHD converter to Mac.
Step1: Import or drag & drop Lumix DMC-GM1 AVCHD 1080P 50P footage
When you start this AVCHD to Mac FCP Converter, the clear instruction in the main interface is clearly show you the main function icon.
You can import AVCHD 1080P 50P content via clicking the icon in the upper corner or just drag them to the program directly.
Via “editor tool”, you can do initial editing like adding effect, watermark, trimming, cropping before transcoding AVCHD to FCP.
Step 2: Select ProRes 422 as export format for FCP importer
Click "format" and under the FCP menu, you can clearly see proper formats for FCP, among which, native codec to read AVCHD files in FCP importer, including ProRes 422 and ProRes 444. I bet you won’t take 30 seconds in this step with this user-friendly Aunsoft Video Converter for Mac.
ProRes 422 HQ is recommended here for offering even greater headroom to preserve the quality of even the most demanding.
Step 3: Preset to maintain original Panasonic Lumix DMC-GM1 AVCHD settings (1080p 50p)
Video Frame Rate is in a wide range, including 23.976, 24, 25, 29.97, 30, 50, 59.94 and 60, which gives you many options for precisely preset. Here you can preset your AVCHD files to maintain original AVCHD settings (1080p 50p).
Click "settings" to set Video Size as original or as 1920*1080 and Video Frame Rrate as 50fps for encoding AVCHD 50P to ProRes 422 for FCP.
Step 4: Transcode AVCHD 50P progressive to ProRes 422
<h3>EIZO Releases 31.1" Super High Resolution 8 Megapixel Monitor for Multi-Modality Environments</h3>
<img alt="RadiForce RX850" src="http://www.eizo.com/global/press/releases/images/RadiForce_RX850_press.jpg" style="float:right;width:250px;"> Hakusan, Japan,November 27, 2013 – EIZO Corporation (TSE: 6737) announced the release of the RadiForce RX850, a 31.1-inch color LCD monitor capable of displaying 8 megapixels for multi-modality applications. The RadiForce RX850 is the successor of the RadiForce RX840-MG released last year, which was the first 8 megapixel monitor for multi-modality use.
EIZO’s 8 megapixel monitors act as effective replacements for multi-monitor setups for a smoother, more user-friendly environment when viewing numerous medical applications at once on a single screen. This allows medical professionals to conveniently view images side-by-side without the obtrusive bezels typically found in a multi-monitor environment.
What resolution is that?
Are we looking at 300 dpi (at last?) on a desktop? Looking at print resolution images 1:1 basis?
4k monitors are good news. But they'll be expensive. Though the Dell didn't seem too bad to me for the price. (I'll go to hell for saying that...)
That's pretty much half of my estimation for a 4K monitor, which got me to read it more closely. It doesn't say 8K it says 8Mpx. A 16:9 8K monitor is 33.1Mpx but a 16:9 4K monitor is one-quarter that at 8.3Mpx. That all makes much more sense now.
EDIT: Apparently the 4K Sharp monitor wasn't intended to go live yet at Apple according to some blogs. Looks like it was supposed to be offered alongside the new Mac Pro when it becomes available.
EDIT: Apparently the 4K Sharp monitor wasn't intended to go live yet at Apple according to some blogs. Looks like it was supposed to be offered alongside the new Mac Pro when it becomes available.
That's a TV, not a computer monitor. If I may be blunt.
That's a TV, not a computer monitor. If I may be blunt.
Any particular reason it can't be used as a monitor?
There's a reason why people site xx feet away from their TV, and only one foot away from their monitor. The pixels can be seen, counted, close in front of a TV. Then there's input lag on many TV's.
Solipsims also pointed many issues out in this very thread. And TV pixels are usually rectangle and monitors square. If you're in photography you'll see the difference.
There's a reason why people site xx feet away from their TV, and only one foot away from their monitor. The pixels can be seen, counted, close in front of a TV. Then there's input lag on many TV's.
Solipsims also pointed many issues out in this very thread. And TV pixels are usually rectangle and monitors square. If you're in photography you'll see the difference.
Yes, I understand it's not the same as a $3000 Sharp monitor. With that out of the way there's this from the Amazon comments:
"Ok. I got this in the mail today and wasn't sure if it would work with my hp dv7 laptop with an intel hd3000 graphics card (HDMI only out). When I first opened and connected to this monitor the resolution defaulted to a maximum of 1920x1080 @ 24 Hz. It was pretty sharp but the last TV I had was just as sharp at that resolution.
So I spent all day working with different modelines to try to manually get the resolutin right. The monitor was impressive and would display all kinds of modes between 1920x1080 and 3840x2160. BUT. They were all kind of blurry and would not have worked to program all day on.
Well after about 4 hours of working with random timings and resolutions I thought I would try xrandr with the 3840x2160 modes untill I found one that very closely matched an hsync of 30. I found the closest line that I could get to 30hz was:
Those make it so you can select it in the Displays or monitors section depending on your distribution (make sure you have the right HDMI port by running xrandr without any arguments).
If you don't know where the monitors section is you can run (leave off the quotes):
xrandr --output HDMI1 --mode 3840x2160_13.80
Anyway after I ran that and the monitor came back from being black... BAM! Super high definition and huge display! I was so happy I cried a little. Not a pixel is bad and text is so sharp it is like sitting in front of 4 monitors!
While looking up a ‘counter argument’ I came across a website called hookup69 after which I didn’t want ‘looking up how to hook up’ anymore.
But yes, a TV monitor can work with a Mac, and might even be nice for gamers. But because the plug fits doesn’t mean it’s a nice experience. Try reading text, for hours on end.
There’s a reason medical monitors are expensive: NEC sells a 21”, 5Mpixel screen for $13,799 And yes, that's Black and White!
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It's hard to tell from that image but that might not be 16:9 but instead one of the other variances like 1.85:1 or 1.90:1. If we assume 16:9 we're looking at 7680×4320 which is 33.1 million pixels or 16x that of 1080p and a PPI that's still not quite 300 at 283.33.
But how would all this run? For 4K you need DP1.2 or HDMI 2.0 for 60Hz, and I don't think either of these supports higher Hz or 3D. It's 8K is 4 times the number of pixels of 4K but I think you need less than 2x the bandwidth which could mean 2xHDMI2.0/DP1.2 could support around 35Gbit/s but I assume this would all need an expensive device to interpolate the streams. With no mention of DP 1.3 I will be somewhat surprised if this ever hits the market and really surprised if it's under $15k.
I am assuming apple is waiting till the tech is cheap enough, and all there devices support it.
I agree.
Maybe also for when they can be implemented into the iMac lineup and not destroy the price point.
With no mention of DP 1.3 I will be somewhat surprised if this ever hits the market and really surprised if it's under $15k.
DP 1.2 was finalized back around the end or 2009. It took over a year to gain any traction in specialty markets. It's still not entirely down to the mainstream, although I am less forgiving when it comes to products that exist in the higher price tiers. Displayport 1.3 was technically announced, but the spec isn't finalized. As for Eizo, they cater to a lot of specialty markets. I have noticed with them and NEC that the technology does trickle down to some of their lines in the $500-2000 range.
Panasonic Lumix DMC-GM1 Review: The Lumix DMC-GM1 was announced October 2013, as a first truly "micro" Micro Four Thirds camera. Compare to its predecessor, Panasonic GX7, the GM1 inherits almost all of the same imaging capabilities, with just a few compromises to accommodate its small size, namely the lack of an electronic viewfinder and an articulated LCD monitor. It's diminutive yet powerful. The DMC-GM1 also features full HD 1920 x 1080 60P/50P high quality video recording in AVCHD and MP4* with stereo sound.
Aunsoft Video Converter for Mac, an excellent AVCHD to Mac converter, can transcode AVCHD to iMovie, AVCHD to QuickTime, AVCHD to Avid, AVCHD to Adobe Premiere/Sony Vegas, AVCHD to FCE, etc. this program is professional to convert AVCHD files to Apple ProRes codec, ProRes 422, ProRes 4444, DVCPRO HD, XDCAM, and HDV included, that FCP will accept.
This tutorial is about what preset to use to maintain original AVCHD settings (1080p 50p) when transcoding Panasonic Lumix DMC-GM1 AVCHD progressive recordings to Apple ProRes 422 for FCP with this AVCHD converter to Mac.
Step1: Import or drag & drop Lumix DMC-GM1 AVCHD 1080P 50P footage
When you start this AVCHD to Mac FCP Converter, the clear instruction in the main interface is clearly show you the main function icon.
You can import AVCHD 1080P 50P content via clicking the icon in the upper corner or just drag them to the program directly.
Via “editor tool”, you can do initial editing like adding effect, watermark, trimming, cropping before transcoding AVCHD to FCP.
Step 2: Select ProRes 422 as export format for FCP importer
Click "format" and under the FCP menu, you can clearly see proper formats for FCP, among which, native codec to read AVCHD files in FCP importer, including ProRes 422 and ProRes 444. I bet you won’t take 30 seconds in this step with this user-friendly Aunsoft Video Converter for Mac.
ProRes 422 HQ is recommended here for offering even greater headroom to preserve the quality of even the most demanding.
Step 3: Preset to maintain original Panasonic Lumix DMC-GM1 AVCHD settings (1080p 50p)
Video Frame Rate is in a wide range, including 23.976, 24, 25, 29.97, 30, 50, 59.94 and 60, which gives you many options for precisely preset. Here you can preset your AVCHD files to maintain original AVCHD settings (1080p 50p).
Click "settings" to set Video Size as original or as 1920*1080 and Video Frame Rrate as 50fps for encoding AVCHD 50P to ProRes 422 for FCP.
Step 4: Transcode AVCHD 50P progressive to ProRes 422
Click "Conversion" icon to transcode AVCHD maintaining 1080 50P settings. With just a click on "Open output folder", you can locate the export ProRes MOV easily.
With this versatile AVCHD to Mac converter, you can also transcode AVCHD to MP4, MPG, VOB, 3GP, FLV, TS, MKV, AVI, etc.
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Their press release indicates 146 ppi.
That's pretty much half of my estimation for a 4K monitor, which got me to read it more closely. It doesn't say 8K it says 8Mpx. A 16:9 8K monitor is 33.1Mpx but a 16:9 4K monitor is one-quarter that at 8.3Mpx. That all makes much more sense now.
http://www.amazon.com/product-reviews/B00DOPGO2G/ref=acr_offerlistingpage_text?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
EDIT: Apparently the 4K Sharp monitor wasn't intended to go live yet at Apple according to some blogs. Looks like it was supposed to be offered alongside the new Mac Pro when it becomes available.
That's a TV, not a computer monitor. If I may be blunt.
There's a reason why people site xx feet away from their TV, and only one foot away from their monitor. The pixels can be seen, counted, close in front of a TV. Then there's input lag on many TV's.
Solipsims also pointed many issues out in this very thread. And TV pixels are usually rectangle and monitors square. If you're in photography you'll see the difference.
"Ok. I got this in the mail today and wasn't sure if it would work with my hp dv7 laptop with an intel hd3000 graphics card (HDMI only out). When I first opened and connected to this monitor the resolution defaulted to a maximum of 1920x1080 @ 24 Hz. It was pretty sharp but the last TV I had was just as sharp at that resolution.
So I spent all day working with different modelines to try to manually get the resolutin right. The monitor was impressive and would display all kinds of modes between 1920x1080 and 3840x2160. BUT. They were all kind of blurry and would not have worked to program all day on.
Well after about 4 hours of working with random timings and resolutions I thought I would try xrandr with the 3840x2160 modes untill I found one that very closely matched an hsync of 30. I found the closest line that I could get to 30hz was:
root@dv7# cvt 3840 2160 13.8
# 3840x2160 13.79 Hz (CVT) hsync: 30.05 kHz; pclk: 144.25 MHz
Modeline "3840x2160_13.80" 144.25 3840 3944 4320 4800 2160 2163 2168 2180 -hsync +vsync
I guess you could find something closer but that was close enough. So I ran:
xrandr --newmode "3840x2160_13.80" 144.25 3840 3944 4320 4800 2160 2163 2168 2180 -hsync +vsync
xrandr --addmode HDMI1 "3840x2160_13.80"
Those make it so you can select it in the Displays or monitors section depending on your distribution (make sure you have the right HDMI port by running xrandr without any arguments).
If you don't know where the monitors section is you can run (leave off the quotes):
xrandr --output HDMI1 --mode 3840x2160_13.80
Anyway after I ran that and the monitor came back from being black... BAM! Super high definition and huge display! I was so happy I cried a little. Not a pixel is bad and text is so sharp it is like sitting in front of 4 monitors!
Interesting! Though not for average Joe on a Mac I'd say. But yes, one can hook up a TV monitor to a PC, if the plug fits.
It looks as tho some folks found a way to run it with a Mac:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1579661
While looking up a ‘counter argument’ I came across a website called hookup69 after which I didn’t want ‘looking up how to hook up’ anymore.
But yes, a TV monitor can work with a Mac, and might even be nice for gamers. But because the plug fits doesn’t mean it’s a nice experience. Try reading text, for hours on end.
There’s a reason medical monitors are expensive: NEC sells a 21”, 5Mpixel screen for $13,799 And yes, that's Black and White!
http://www.necdisplay.com/images/Products340x340/medical/md211g5_htadj.png
Viewable Image Size 21.3"
ColorType Grayscale
MegaPixels 5MP
Native Resolution 2048 x 2560
Pixel Pitch 0.17mm
Pixels Per Inch 154@ native resolution
Brightness (typical) 500 cd/m2 calibrated / 1200 cd/m2 max
Contrast Ratio (typical) 1200:1
Viewing Angle 176° Vert., 176° Hor. (88U/88D/88L/88R) @ CR>50
Response Time 25ms
Lookup Table 11.9-bit
Displayable Colors 1024 levels of gray out of a palette of 12277