I recently purchased & installed 3 Thermostats and 5 smoke detectors...
Now that you are being acquired by Google how do I opt-out of your data collection? I have little trust in Google and want no part of them collecting data on me and my family... I want the data for my own personal use... If I am unable to opt-out, I would like to know how I can return the products...
Nest does not respond how to my numerous emails, how do I get out of this trap, isa this just another Google tactic to require to enter 5-6 commands to actually delete a Gmail eMail... Worse than the NSA, I do not want Google following me, I could care less about the NSA, but Google???.. Just let me opt out, just let me, I've spent hours on end & can't figure it out...
Regards,
Retired CIO Global Company...
p.s. You ought to be ashamed, pretty embarrassing...
I recently purchased & installed 3 Thermostats and 5 smoke detectors...
Now that you are being acquired by Google how do I opt-out of your data collection? I have little trust in Google and want no part of them collecting data on me and my family... I want the data for my own personal use... If I am unable to opt-out, I would like to know how I can return the products...
I recently purchased & installed 3 Thermostats and 5 smoke detectors...
Now that you are being acquired by Google how do I opt-out of your data collection? I have little trust in Google and want no part of them collecting data on me and my family... I want the data for my own personal use... If I am unable to opt-out, I would like to know how I can return the products...
Regards,
Paul
Pretty silly to be sending this message at this point, isn't it? Smacks of "I know you are going to do this and that I will show you how smart I am by pre-empting your next step by asking you questions you've no answers for ..."
Nest is done. Google will fold into a Google Home brand within a year - Faddell will leave soon so whatever he promises won;t mean anything when he's gone and it's not named Nest anymore. Of course, Google will drive most of the employees away - after all, how smart could they be if they weren't working for Google already? And since Google doesn't believe in customer service, there will be a giant hole in the market for anyone to step in. Of course, Apple won;t - Apple will simply work with thousands of home automation companies who will now not work with Google who owns their competitor. Basically Google has spent $15 billion in the past 2 years to be more like Apple and is no closer than they were.
If Google has been trying to be more like Apple by designing and shipping hardware, does it mean Apple has been trying to be more like Google by providing services?
I am still at a loss as to why Google fanboys frequent a site called Appleinsiders trying to convince Apple fans that Google is good. You chose your bed. You won't find any of us on a Google site. We don't have to justify our purchases.
Are there many Google fanboys here? Or are some of those folks simply less biased (and deluded) in their views? It is possible to like both Apple and Google technology?
Not sure what use there would be for someone to learn that I keep the thermostat set at 65 degrees at night and 68 during the day if I'm home. Still I don't like the idea of the thermostat reporting to outside agencies.. Fortunately I had no plans to buy a Nest thermostat anyway, so my plans won't change.
Any statement from a CEO of a just-purchased company has to be taken with a grain of salt. He will do whatever Google tells him to do in the future. I'd hate to be working for one of those small companies that gets gobbled up by a much larger one like Google. bye bye to small teams, generous perks in the office, liberal HR policies, and whatnot. Instead you become just one cog in Google's vast empire, subject to their policies for workplace, pay, vacations, etc.
I'm not a fan of the way Google has been acting since 2008, but Google is still one of the best (if not the best) company to work for. Back in 2006 when I interviewed with them in Mountain View, I personally witnessed the perks that their employees were getting, and that was amazing.
You'd have to be an idiot to think that Google won't be tapping into Nest's data. You don't pay $3.2 billion for a company and not tap into each and every corner of that company. I currently own a Nest and I have no problem with Google buying this company. If they want to know when I turn my heat on and when my smoke alarm goes off, more power to them.
I think it's pretty comical to see all the Apple fans disown the Nest over this. I'm about as die hard of an Apple fan as it gets, but I'm not losing sleep over this. My Nest has been leaps and bounds better than what was previously on my wall and it would take Google really screwing up this company for me to give it up. While Google will use Nest for its own gain, I haven't seen any evidence that Google is going to screw it up.
Google will know when you come and when you leave your house. Still don't think there's anything wrong with it?
I'm glad the UK launch was delayed now, I has been eagerly awaiting the chance to buy the Thermostat.
Picked up a Tado model instead, after extensive research it actually seems to be a better product in many respects, at least for Europe.
I tried to get Nest to honour their warranty here in the UK, if I bought a unit mail order from the US. They couldn't/wouldn't/promised/delayed...for 3months so I cancelled and researched alternatives including Tado. Having to contact British Gas for a technical compatibility question, I was pleasantly surprised when I was offered a Hive unit at better than 50% off if I switched my maintenance contract to them.
Nest is totally f**kd outside of the US.
If Google has been trying to be more like Apple by designing and shipping hardware, does it mean Apple has been trying to be more like Google by providing services?
All the big players today (Apple, Google, wireless carriers) are trying to commoditize what their competitors offer. Apple sells hardware at a handsome profit while giving away software and services. Google gives away software and hardware (minimal profits at least) while charging a premium for services (in the form of cash from advertisers and privacy from users). And the wireless carriers give away hardware and software while charging a premium for their wireless services. This is a battle for power and control, playing off each others' perceived strengths and weaknesses.
A key thing to remember is that the only player in this game that is looking out for the consumer is Apple. YOU are Apple's customer. You are not Google's customer - you are the product they are selling.
"When I was with them, the amount of things that I learned from them..."
hmmm. I wonder what kind of things Google could have shared with him that might have twisted his arm? What could Google know about an individual that might be private? hmmm. I just can't imagine.
All the big players today (Apple, Google, wireless carriers) are trying to commoditize what their competitors offer. Apple sells hardware at a handsome profit while giving away software and services. Google gives away software and hardware (minimal profits at least) while charging a premium for services (in the form of cash from advertisers and privacy from users). And the wireless carriers give away hardware and software while charging a premium for their wireless services. This is a battle for power and control, playing off each others' perceived strengths and weaknesses.
A key thing to remember is that the only player in this game that is looking out for the consumer is Apple. YOU are Apple's customer. You are not Google's customer - you are the product they are selling.
I think your point is valid up to an extent. Apple, through its stores, does a really good job of supporting its customers when it comes to hardware products. However, their customer support sucks BIG TIME when it comes to their services. Apple geniuses are no help when Mail or iCloud have issues. I don't pretend that Google's customer support for their services is better. But Google is much better in its deployment of services. Gmail, Google Maps and Google Drive all are superior offerings to Apple counterparts for now.
Nest is done. Google will fold into a Google Home brand within a year - Faddell will leave soon so whatever he promises won;t mean anything when he's gone and it's not named Nest anymore. Of course, Google will drive most of the employees away - after all, how smart could they be if they weren't working for Google already? And since Google doesn't believe in customer service, there will be a giant hole in the market for anyone to step in. Of course, Apple won;t - Apple will simply work with thousands of home automation companies who will now not work with Google who owns their competitor. Basically Google has spent $15 billion in the past 2 years to be more like Apple and is no closer than they were.
I live in a condo complex with posted private property. Google street view drove through & photographed 3 sides of my house. I notified them & they did pixelate a license plate, but did not remove the thousands of feet of homes now visible in street view on the internet. Google now has my email address, but I did not give them the address of where I live, not that they don't have that already by 'other means.' Just realized I need to change the password on my router due to the 'inadvertent' capturing of my router & passwords.
Anything in view of the general public can be photographed whether it's on private property or not. In reality just about every house sits on 'private property'.
I am still at a loss as to why Google fanboys frequent a site called Appleinsiders trying to convince Apple fans that Google is good. You chose your bed. You won't find any of us on a Google site. We don't have to justify our purchases.
It's mostly for entertainment. This stuff is funnier than the XM comedy channels most of the time.
It is really not that big of surprise. 3.2B is a lot of money. Besides, Nest was a Google Venture company, which means it had data collection in mind from the very start.
Are there many Google fanboys here? Or are some of those folks simply less biased (and deluded) in their views? It is possible to like both Apple and Google technology?
Both but I would venture to guess that the most vehemently pro-Google comments here are from Google fanboys. I would also say that there are proportionately a lot more Google fanboys here than there are Apple fanboys on Google sites. Just go to a site like androidpolice.com and make a pro-Apple comment or even a doubting Google comment. You will see rabid Google fanboyism in action.
Anything in view of the general public can be photographed whether it's on private property or not. In reality just about every house sits on 'private property'.
Wrong. You can photograph it from public property (i.e. the street) but have no right to trespass on their property and photograph their condo.
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I recently purchased & installed 3 Thermostats and 5 smoke detectors...
Nest does not respond how to my numerous emails, how do I get out of this trap, isa this just another Google tactic to require to enter 5-6 commands to actually delete a Gmail eMail... Worse than the NSA, I do not want Google following me, I could care less about the NSA, but Google???.. Just let me opt out, just let me, I've spent hours on end & can't figure it out...
Regards,
Retired CIO Global Company...
p.s. You ought to be ashamed, pretty embarrassing...
I recently purchased & installed 3 Thermostats and 5 smoke detectors...
Fadell strikes me as naive for a CEO.
He didn't do too badly in his two turns as CEO, did he?
I recently purchased & installed 3 Thermostats and 5 smoke detectors...
Pretty silly to be sending this message at this point, isn't it? Smacks of "I know you are going to do this and that I will show you how smart I am by pre-empting your next step by asking you questions you've no answers for ..."
Nest is done. Google will fold into a Google Home brand within a year - Faddell will leave soon so whatever he promises won;t mean anything when he's gone and it's not named Nest anymore. Of course, Google will drive most of the employees away - after all, how smart could they be if they weren't working for Google already? And since Google doesn't believe in customer service, there will be a giant hole in the market for anyone to step in. Of course, Apple won;t - Apple will simply work with thousands of home automation companies who will now not work with Google who owns their competitor. Basically Google has spent $15 billion in the past 2 years to be more like Apple and is no closer than they were.
If Google has been trying to be more like Apple by designing and shipping hardware, does it mean Apple has been trying to be more like Google by providing services?
I am still at a loss as to why Google fanboys frequent a site called Appleinsiders trying to convince Apple fans that Google is good. You chose your bed. You won't find any of us on a Google site. We don't have to justify our purchases.
Are there many Google fanboys here? Or are some of those folks simply less biased (and deluded) in their views? It is possible to like both Apple and Google technology?
I'm not a fan of the way Google has been acting since 2008, but Google is still one of the best (if not the best) company to work for. Back in 2006 when I interviewed with them in Mountain View, I personally witnessed the perks that their employees were getting, and that was amazing.
Google will know when you come and when you leave your house. Still don't think there's anything wrong with it?
I tried to get Nest to honour their warranty here in the UK, if I bought a unit mail order from the US. They couldn't/wouldn't/promised/delayed...for 3months so I cancelled and researched alternatives including Tado. Having to contact British Gas for a technical compatibility question, I was pleasantly surprised when I was offered a Hive unit at better than 50% off if I switched my maintenance contract to them.
Nest is totally f**kd outside of the US.
I hate couples that do that.
If Google has been trying to be more like Apple by designing and shipping hardware, does it mean Apple has been trying to be more like Google by providing services?
All the big players today (Apple, Google, wireless carriers) are trying to commoditize what their competitors offer. Apple sells hardware at a handsome profit while giving away software and services. Google gives away software and hardware (minimal profits at least) while charging a premium for services (in the form of cash from advertisers and privacy from users). And the wireless carriers give away hardware and software while charging a premium for their wireless services. This is a battle for power and control, playing off each others' perceived strengths and weaknesses.
A key thing to remember is that the only player in this game that is looking out for the consumer is Apple. YOU are Apple's customer. You are not Google's customer - you are the product they are selling.
hmmm. I wonder what kind of things Google could have shared with him that might have twisted his arm? What could Google know about an individual that might be private? hmmm. I just can't imagine.
All the big players today (Apple, Google, wireless carriers) are trying to commoditize what their competitors offer. Apple sells hardware at a handsome profit while giving away software and services. Google gives away software and hardware (minimal profits at least) while charging a premium for services (in the form of cash from advertisers and privacy from users). And the wireless carriers give away hardware and software while charging a premium for their wireless services. This is a battle for power and control, playing off each others' perceived strengths and weaknesses.
A key thing to remember is that the only player in this game that is looking out for the consumer is Apple. YOU are Apple's customer. You are not Google's customer - you are the product they are selling.
I think your point is valid up to an extent. Apple, through its stores, does a really good job of supporting its customers when it comes to hardware products. However, their customer support sucks BIG TIME when it comes to their services. Apple geniuses are no help when Mail or iCloud have issues. I don't pretend that Google's customer support for their services is better. But Google is much better in its deployment of services. Gmail, Google Maps and Google Drive all are superior offerings to Apple counterparts for now.
Nest is done. Google will fold into a Google Home brand within a year - Faddell will leave soon so whatever he promises won;t mean anything when he's gone and it's not named Nest anymore. Of course, Google will drive most of the employees away - after all, how smart could they be if they weren't working for Google already? And since Google doesn't believe in customer service, there will be a giant hole in the market for anyone to step in. Of course, Apple won;t - Apple will simply work with thousands of home automation companies who will now not work with Google who owns their competitor. Basically Google has spent $15 billion in the past 2 years to be more like Apple and is no closer than they were.
FUD
Anything in view of the general public can be photographed whether it's on private property or not. In reality just about every house sits on 'private property'.
You're ruining the narrative of outraged geeks who are spoon-clanging in freedom-loving rage.
I am still at a loss as to why Google fanboys frequent a site called Appleinsiders trying to convince Apple fans that Google is good. You chose your bed. You won't find any of us on a Google site. We don't have to justify our purchases.
It's mostly for entertainment. This stuff is funnier than the XM comedy channels most of the time.
It is really not that big of surprise. 3.2B is a lot of money. Besides, Nest was a Google Venture company, which means it had data collection in mind from the very start.
Are there many Google fanboys here? Or are some of those folks simply less biased (and deluded) in their views? It is possible to like both Apple and Google technology?
Both but I would venture to guess that the most vehemently pro-Google comments here are from Google fanboys. I would also say that there are proportionately a lot more Google fanboys here than there are Apple fanboys on Google sites. Just go to a site like androidpolice.com and make a pro-Apple comment or even a doubting Google comment. You will see rabid Google fanboyism in action.
Anything in view of the general public can be photographed whether it's on private property or not. In reality just about every house sits on 'private property'.
Wrong. You can photograph it from public property (i.e. the street) but have no right to trespass on their property and photograph their condo.