But that too could change... to "opt out" or "no choice."
Actually, Google is so ethical that its policy whenever it offers a new service, is automatically "opt in" not "opt out". But unfortunately, in Google doublespeak, that means you "automatically opt in" for the service. They're just real bastards.
It's not like I'm saying you shouldn't have a choice. Just saying that I don't understand why it's supposed to be creepy. Google knows where I live (because they bill me). They know my music taste, they know where I tend to hangout. They also have a rough idea of my friends.
Google occupies the same place in my life as a random, not particularly close friend would. I don't even use Gmail for my email so to me it's like having a friend who has more computing capacity than God
so Google is behaving like a stalker…why would I be creeped out by that. Silly me.
So you don’t think it’s possible for an ad to not collect data? :no:
It was much simpler when print a big source of our information. A company like Apple advertised in computer magazines and in major newspapers, so it was easy to target a certain demographic. Now we're mostly anonymous, so how does a company reach potential customers? Data collection has been going on forever, I remember magazines having surveys for one to fill out. I don't particularly like all the data that's being collected but I can see how it could be very beneficial for a small business.
I hope google will lower the price. I want one, but not for $250. It should be more like $80-$125 range. Not sure why anyone would care if Google knows when people are home or not. It's not like they would sell the info to house theives. It may be creepy how much data google has but credit card companies are worse. Banks know everything you purchase, how much you make, how much you save, etc. And they sell your info to others.
I hope google will lower the price. I want one, but not for $250. It should be more like $80-$125 range. Not sure why anyone would care if Google knows when people are home or not. It's not like they would sell the info to house theives. It may be creepy how much data google has but credit card companies are worse. Banks know everything you purchase, how much you make, how much you save, etc. And they sell your info to others.
I can see positive upsides to Google collecting data too. Weather reports are typically based off fairly sparse meteo stations. Imagine if Google could accurately predict that your house was going to be 2.3°C warmer in the next couple of days because of a heat front they tracked moving across the US. Imagine if they adjust your heating for you to save you money and keep you comfortable.
I think I'd be happy with that sort of functionality whoever had the data. It's not like they're going to be able to maliciously use "He's normally home most of the time and goes to the shops in the evenings".
I'm not a fan of the way Google has been acting since 2008, but Google is still one of the best (if not the best) company to work for. Back in 2006 when I interviewed with them in Mountain View, I personally witnessed the perks that their employees were getting, and that was amazing.
Seduced, LOL.
Not to mention that shameful self-promoting movie starring Vince Vaughn and Owen Wilson.
Not to mention that shameful self-promoting movie starring Vince Vaughn and Owen Wilson.
Oh god I had managed to put that thing out of my mind. I never saw the full thing, only the trailer, and it made me want to throw something through my TV. Whoever agreed to that at Google needs to have their tastes examined.
Hey, just a heads-up here folks: yesterday I posted in this thread, my first post in this forum for over a year. This morning I received this obvious phishing scam in a email. "Obvious" because the email address they used was the one I registered to this forum, not the one I have registered to my Apple account. Beware of lame (google white-knighting?) phishing scams...
Well, some people have spouses who are not constantly on the Internet, and some of these people have garages, so it's not immediately obvious to a driver-by if there's anyone at home. So, I would consider my thermostats reporting on my absence at home to any company - especially to Google - the invasion of privacy that crosses the red line for me. YMMW.
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so Google is behaving like a stalker…why would I be creeped out by that. Silly me.
To be fair, iPhones know where the user is, and Apple collects location information so they can improve advertising. Those words are in the Privacy Policy. When you go home, Apple knows you're there, unless you're turning off Location Services on your phone and not opting in for usage with any Apple devices connected to the Internet.
... -- Apple's privacy statement clearly says that they use your personal information to develop and deliver advertising. Nothing new there. ...
You are lying. Apple collects data for its own advertising not that of others, and you can opt out in most cases.
All is the same wont work, it simply isn't the case.
You are lying. Apple collects data for its own advertising not that of others, and you can opt out in most cases.
All is the same wont work, it simply isn't the case.
I'm not sure he's saying what you think he was saying. I read it as 'Apple uses your data to develop its own advertising service, just like Google et al'.
"Apple and its affiliates may share this personal information with each other and use it consistent with this Privacy Policy. They may also combine it with other information to provide and improve our products, services, content, and advertising."
Granted, connecting "our" to just "products" or the full list is ambiguous. Which way that goes in your head may lead us all to understand how deluded you might be.
Well, this clears that one up, actually:
"Apple and its partners use cookies and other technologies in mobile advertising services to control the number of times you see a given ad, deliver ads that relate to your interests, and measure the effectiveness of ad campaigns."
Actually, Google is so ethical that its policy whenever it offers a new service, is automatically "opt in" not "opt out". But unfortunately, in Google doublespeak, that means you "automatically opt in" for the service. They're just real bastards.
What's the default setting on your iPhone for receiving iAds based on the data Apple has collected about you?
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In print.
So much for the digital age.
"Opt in" is fine.
But that too could change... to "opt out" or "no choice."
Actually, Google is so ethical that its policy whenever it offers a new service, is automatically "opt in" not "opt out". But unfortunately, in Google doublespeak, that means you "automatically opt in" for the service. They're just real bastards.
So you don’t think it’s possible for an ad to not collect data?
It's not like I'm saying you shouldn't have a choice. Just saying that I don't understand why it's supposed to be creepy. Google knows where I live (because they bill me). They know my music taste, they know where I tend to hangout. They also have a rough idea of my friends.
Google occupies the same place in my life as a random, not particularly close friend would. I don't even use Gmail for my email so to me it's like having a friend who has more computing capacity than God
so Google is behaving like a stalker…why would I be creeped out by that. Silly me.
so Google is behaving like a stalker…why would I be creeped out by that. Silly me.
If you consider your friends to be stalkers because they know things about you, then I don't know what to reply.
I don't think someone who knows my address is a stalker, especially not when they provide me with material benefits for no charge.
It was much simpler when print a big source of our information. A company like Apple advertised in computer magazines and in major newspapers, so it was easy to target a certain demographic. Now we're mostly anonymous, so how does a company reach potential customers? Data collection has been going on forever, I remember magazines having surveys for one to fill out. I don't particularly like all the data that's being collected but I can see how it could be very beneficial for a small business.
I hope google will lower the price. I want one, but not for $250. It should be more like $80-$125 range. Not sure why anyone would care if Google knows when people are home or not. It's not like they would sell the info to house theives. It may be creepy how much data google has but credit card companies are worse. Banks know everything you purchase, how much you make, how much you save, etc. And they sell your info to others.
I can see positive upsides to Google collecting data too. Weather reports are typically based off fairly sparse meteo stations. Imagine if Google could accurately predict that your house was going to be 2.3°C warmer in the next couple of days because of a heat front they tracked moving across the US. Imagine if they adjust your heating for you to save you money and keep you comfortable.
I think I'd be happy with that sort of functionality whoever had the data. It's not like they're going to be able to maliciously use "He's normally home most of the time and goes to the shops in the evenings".
Seduced, LOL.
Not to mention that shameful self-promoting movie starring Vince Vaughn and Owen Wilson.
Seduced, LOL.
Not to mention that shameful self-promoting movie starring Vince Vaughn and Owen Wilson.
Oh god I had managed to put that thing out of my mind. I never saw the full thing, only the trailer, and it made me want to throw something through my TV. Whoever agreed to that at Google needs to have their tastes examined.
Hey, just a heads-up here folks: yesterday I posted in this thread, my first post in this forum for over a year. This morning I received this obvious phishing scam in a email. "Obvious" because the email address they used was the one I registered to this forum, not the one I have registered to my Apple account. Beware of lame (google white-knighting?) phishing scams...
Wanted to thumbs up you, but 'I'm over my limit for rating content. Please try again later.'
so Google is behaving like a stalker…why would I be creeped out by that. Silly me.
To be fair, iPhones know where the user is, and Apple collects location information so they can improve advertising. Those words are in the Privacy Policy. When you go home, Apple knows you're there, unless you're turning off Location Services on your phone and not opting in for usage with any Apple devices connected to the Internet.
You are lying. Apple collects data for its own advertising not that of others, and you can opt out in most cases.
All is the same wont work, it simply isn't the case.
You are lying. Apple collects data for its own advertising not that of others, and you can opt out in most cases.
All is the same wont work, it simply isn't the case.
I'm not sure he's saying what you think he was saying. I read it as 'Apple uses your data to develop its own advertising service, just like Google et al'.
What's incorrect about that?
You are lying. Apple collects data for its own advertising not that of others, and you can opt out in most cases.
All is the same wont work, it simply isn't the case.
Read the policy: http://www.apple.com/privacy/
"Apple and its affiliates may share this personal information with each other and use it consistent with this Privacy Policy. They may also combine it with other information to provide and improve our products, services, content, and advertising."
Granted, connecting "our" to just "products" or the full list is ambiguous. Which way that goes in your head may lead us all to understand how deluded you might be.
Well, this clears that one up, actually:
"Apple and its partners use cookies and other technologies in mobile advertising services to control the number of times you see a given ad, deliver ads that relate to your interests, and measure the effectiveness of ad campaigns."
What's the default setting on your iPhone for receiving iAds based on the data Apple has collected about you?
What's the default setting on your iPhone for receiving iAds based on the data Apple has collected about you?
You are really going to equate Apple feeding you iAds to Google's action of unilaterally linking up your Google+ identity with your Gmail account?