I expect one larger-sized phone (e.g., 4.8 inch). And the 5S and 5C to continue. The former as the high-end smaller form factor, and the latter as the lower-end (replacement for the 4S). The larger form factor phone will likely have 128GB (finally).
No way that Apple is getting rid of the 5C or introducing two larger phones.
i do want to get a 128GB iPhone for sure if they provide one, but i prefer it on smaller phone though it would be hard to stuff that much in.
from production line perspectives, apple needs to keep 5s/c line while producing bigger size iPhone 6. iPhone 6 will be pricer in order for apple to recover the overhead cost on BOM and new packaging requirement for 6. it could be that apple will treat iPhone 6 as a separate product category, otherwise, it would be hard for them to maintain margin.
How ridiculous. You don't quietly throw the 5C "into the dustbin of history". If Apple stops producing that model there won't be anything quiet about it. Every tech site will be reporting will glee on its failure. And we'll get the typical "I told you so" and "Steve wouldn't have released this" comments.
The "I told you so" part is already covered by me, worry not.
The 5c will really kick off when it becomes the "old" phone and drop in price. It would be a bad move to cancel it just before it gets priced like it should be... cant wait for a bigger screen iphone, keeping around my tiny dwarf iphone 4s is pure torture.
You mean like he wouldn't have released the plastic 3G and 3GS, or the fat nano, or the buttonless shuffle?
The big, fat difference between the 5C (aka iPhone IIvx) and the devices above was that they did NOT have as prime reason for launch price/marketability considerations. They were seen as the best in their respective segments, period.
I'm no more sure than anyone else outside Cupertino, but I have a very hard time seeing Apple position a 4.8" model as the "flagship". The "iPhone" that is marketed most heavily will be the one that appeals to the greatest number and widest range of users. I don't see a phone that large being most appealing-certainly not in the U. S. I also haven't read anywhere that even 5+ inch Android phones make up the majority of Android sales.
Moreover, I can't imagine Apple "penalizing" their customers by forcing those who want a 4.00" phone to get last year's model (5S or 5C with one year old tech). Yes, the 3.5" 4 and 4S were deprecated, but there was more vocal support for a 4.00" phone. And by the way, many already are complaining that one-handed use is more difficult with the 5 series iPhone.
Agreed. the 4S will be history. The 5C/5S will still exist and be a "step down" as always. The 6 and 6+ Will be 4" and <5", respectively.
5C: free w contract, 8GB, one color.
5S: $100 w contract, 16GB; silver, black
6: $200 w contract, 16GB; silver black
6+: $250 w contract, 16 GB; gold, black
Obviously 32, 64 will exist on the 6. And 32, 64, 128 will exist on the 6+.
My Prediction: They are going to keep the the 5C and lower its price. THey are also going to keep 326PPI (due to interface issues and App requirements) and the Aspect Ratio of 1.78. That leads me to believe the logical next step is 4.8inches at 1366*768 with one more row and column of icons on the home screen. Such a screen would be 59.8mm wide, just 1mm wider thant the current iPhone 5 enclosure width. So if they thin the bezel, the whole phone only needs to get a tiny little bit wider. THe hight of the 4.8 display at 106.4mm is 17mm less than current iPHone 5 enclosure.If they save same space around the Touch ID and much more space att the earspeaker (moving facetime camera to the side again) the overall height should also not increase to much.
The big, fat difference between the 5C (aka iPhone IIvx) and the devices above was that they did NOT have as prime reason for launch price/marketability considerations. They were seen as the best in their respective segments, period.
As I already said, if the 5C was about price. It would have been cheaper at launch.
You know Steve personally? Steve Jobs also did not want to release the iPod or iTunes for Windows.
Agreed. the 4S will be history. The 5C/5S will still exist and be a "step down" as always. The 6 and 6+ Will be 4" and <5", respectively.
5C: free w contract, 8GB, one color.
5S: $100 w contract, 16GB; silver, black
6: $200 w contract, 16GB; silver black
6+: $250 w contract, 16 GB; gold, black
Obviously 32, 64 will exist on the 6. And 32, 64, 128 will exist on the 6+.
The 5C will be very cheap to build by the middle of this year. The 5C will be $0 on contract but I think $450 off contract.
I don't think they want to make a 6C because it would tarnish the iPhone 6 halo. The 5C phone is for those who just want an iPhone and don't care about high tech. I'm pretty sure the 6 will have some amazing tech in it that won't make it to a plastic model. Its extremely important that the plastic model does not canabolize the top phones. Apple did an amazing job with this with early 5S vs 5C sales numbers. All things equal Apple wants to sell a ton of top end phones and about 25% mid/low end phones.
Second thought they may just get rid of the 5C and just name it iPhone Color. That way they would just need to change the colors of the phones each year and it would be considered a 'new' phone.
iPhone 6 - 4 inch, metal $199
iPhone 6L - 4.8 inch, metal $249
iPhone Color $0 - different colors than 5C, no TouchID, yes to A7 $450 off contract
$450 off-contract for the iPhone 5c is still too high. $349 off-contract for a budget iPhone is the right price.
You know Steve personally? Steve Jobs also did not want to release the iPod or iTunes for Windows.
Agreed. the 4S will be history. The 5C/5S will still exist and be a "step down" as always. The 6 and 6+ Will be 4" and <5", respectively.
5C: free w contract, 8GB, one color.
5S: $100 w contract, 16GB; silver, black
6: $200 w contract, 16GB; silver black
6+: $250 w contract, 16 GB; gold, black
Obviously 32, 64 will exist on the 6. And 32, 64, 128 will exist on the 6+.
imo they need to keep the 5c colors around... and at the current price of SSD, there is no point in making a gimp 8g version. Actually I hope the next iphones and ipads STARTS at 32g because this is getting ludicrous.
Seems to me that there is an ambiguity in the WSJ story that is being interpreted solely in one direction by news outlets.
"Both new models are expected to feature metal casings similar to what is used on the current iPhone 5S, with Apple expected to scrap the plastic exterior used in the iPhone 5C, these people said."
"Apple's plan to scrap the plastic casing for its new models comes amid reports from suppliers that the company is scaling back orders for the 5C because of weaker-than-expected demand. The 5C, which was released in September, carries much of the same hardware specifications as its predecessor, the iPhone 5, but with colorful plastic cases."
These quotations mean two possible things re: 5C.
1) They are scrapping all phones with plastic, including the 5C.
2) They are scrapping plastic for new models (but might retain the 5C line).
Seems to me the second quotation makes clear that #2 is the more likely meaning--the bigger phones will be metal, not plastic, but the "people" have nothing to say re: what happens with the 5C. I suspect it remains with a price cut and this was the intention from its initial release (as was readying bigger phones for Apple's entry into China, which prefers bigger phones).
Note also that the "people" referred to WSJ did not say this was a certainty to happen. Original story is, as usual, more nuanced than how it is being reported.
As for your derogatory comment about the original posters financial situation, that shows absolutely no class. The amount of money a person makes has nothing to do with their intelligence.
... and yet, the contrary seems to be a common thread when people discuss Android phone users on AI.
It does appear to be correlated in that particular instance.
An important forum trolling skill is being able to cherry pick surveys and web links that prove what one already believes.
I've seen that done more than a few times. Yup, it's a very common tactic for not just forum members but newspaper writers, editorials, blog articles, news reports, scholarly research papers etc.
Even more important for some AI posters tho is attacking the character of the person when you are unable to dispute the facts. That would be called egregious trolling.
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"unnamed source": Phil Schiller wishing to have some fun reading Mac forums?
I expect one larger-sized phone (e.g., 4.8 inch). And the 5S and 5C to continue. The former as the high-end smaller form factor, and the latter as the lower-end (replacement for the 4S). The larger form factor phone will likely have 128GB (finally).
No way that Apple is getting rid of the 5C or introducing two larger phones.
i do want to get a 128GB iPhone for sure if they provide one, but i prefer it on smaller phone though it would be hard to stuff that much in.
from production line perspectives, apple needs to keep 5s/c line while producing bigger size iPhone 6. iPhone 6 will be pricer in order for apple to recover the overhead cost on BOM and new packaging requirement for 6. it could be that apple will treat iPhone 6 as a separate product category, otherwise, it would be hard for them to maintain margin.
How ridiculous. You don't quietly throw the 5C "into the dustbin of history". If Apple stops producing that model there won't be anything quiet about it. Every tech site will be reporting will glee on its failure. And we'll get the typical "I told you so" and "Steve wouldn't have released this" comments.
The "I told you so" part is already covered by me, worry not.
The 5c will really kick off when it becomes the "old" phone and drop in price. It would be a bad move to cancel it just before it gets priced like it should be... cant wait for a bigger screen iphone, keeping around my tiny dwarf iphone 4s is pure torture.
Next iphone line up should be:
iphone 5c - $450, free w/contract
iphone 5s - $550, $99 w/contract
iphone 6 4.5", $650, 199$ w/contract
iphone 6L 5", $750, $250 w/contract
You mean like he wouldn't have released the plastic 3G and 3GS, or the fat nano, or the buttonless shuffle?
The big, fat difference between the 5C (aka iPhone IIvx) and the devices above was that they did NOT have as prime reason for launch price/marketability considerations. They were seen as the best in their respective segments, period.
You know Steve personally? Steve Jobs also did not want to release the iPod or iTunes for Windows.
Agreed. the 4S will be history. The 5C/5S will still exist and be a "step down" as always. The 6 and 6+ Will be 4" and <5", respectively.
5C: free w contract, 8GB, one color.
5S: $100 w contract, 16GB; silver, black
6: $200 w contract, 16GB; silver black
6+: $250 w contract, 16 GB; gold, black
Obviously 32, 64 will exist on the 6. And 32, 64, 128 will exist on the 6+.
THey are also going to keep 326PPI (due to interface issues and App requirements) and the Aspect Ratio of 1.78. That leads me to believe the logical next step is 4.8inches at 1366*768 with one more row and column of icons on the home screen. Such a screen would be 59.8mm wide, just 1mm wider thant the current iPhone 5 enclosure width. So if they thin the bezel, the whole phone only needs to get a tiny little bit wider. THe hight of the 4.8 display at 106.4mm is 17mm less than current iPHone 5 enclosure.If they save same space around the Touch ID and much more space att the earspeaker (moving facetime camera to the side again) the overall height should also not increase to much.
You know Steve personally? Steve Jobs also did not want to release the iPod or iTunes for Windows.
lol
You're such a serious guy.
Oh... and Steve did want to release the iPod. He wouldn't have asked Rubinstein to assemble a team had he not.
Or... oh, did you know him personally? Sorry.
Lol. Silly.
I loved my IIvx. I told my friends my new mac can read and play cds and quicktime movies. They could not believe a computer was capable of that.
They looked pretty good as well - just like my wonderful Quadra 605 - good times playing Realmz on it..!
The 5C will be very cheap to build by the middle of this year. The 5C will be $0 on contract but I think $450 off contract.
I don't think they want to make a 6C because it would tarnish the iPhone 6 halo. The 5C phone is for those who just want an iPhone and don't care about high tech. I'm pretty sure the 6 will have some amazing tech in it that won't make it to a plastic model. Its extremely important that the plastic model does not canabolize the top phones. Apple did an amazing job with this with early 5S vs 5C sales numbers. All things equal Apple wants to sell a ton of top end phones and about 25% mid/low end phones.
Second thought they may just get rid of the 5C and just name it iPhone Color. That way they would just need to change the colors of the phones each year and it would be considered a 'new' phone.
iPhone 6 - 4 inch, metal $199
iPhone 6L - 4.8 inch, metal $249
iPhone Color $0 - different colors than 5C, no TouchID, yes to A7 $450 off contract
$450 off-contract for the iPhone 5c is still too high. $349 off-contract for a budget iPhone is the right price.
You know Steve personally? Steve Jobs also did not want to release the iPod or iTunes for Windows.
Agreed. the 4S will be history. The 5C/5S will still exist and be a "step down" as always. The 6 and 6+ Will be 4" and <5", respectively.
5C: free w contract, 8GB, one color.
5S: $100 w contract, 16GB; silver, black
6: $200 w contract, 16GB; silver black
6+: $250 w contract, 16 GB; gold, black
Obviously 32, 64 will exist on the 6. And 32, 64, 128 will exist on the 6+.
imo they need to keep the 5c colors around... and at the current price of SSD, there is no point in making a gimp 8g version. Actually I hope the next iphones and ipads STARTS at 32g because this is getting ludicrous.
The 5S.
I was going by history. Not sure they need all five colors and perhaps they'll go with 16GB.
Seems to me that there is an ambiguity in the WSJ story that is being interpreted solely in one direction by news outlets.
"Both new models are expected to feature metal casings similar to what is used on the current iPhone 5S, with Apple expected to scrap the plastic exterior used in the iPhone 5C, these people said."
"Apple's plan to scrap the plastic casing for its new models comes amid reports from suppliers that the company is scaling back orders for the 5C because of weaker-than-expected demand. The 5C, which was released in September, carries much of the same hardware specifications as its predecessor, the iPhone 5, but with colorful plastic cases."
These quotations mean two possible things re: 5C.
1) They are scrapping all phones with plastic, including the 5C.
2) They are scrapping plastic for new models (but might retain the 5C line).
Seems to me the second quotation makes clear that #2 is the more likely meaning--the bigger phones will be metal, not plastic, but the "people" have nothing to say re: what happens with the 5C. I suspect it remains with a price cut and this was the intention from its initial release (as was readying bigger phones for Apple's entry into China, which prefers bigger phones).
Note also that the "people" referred to WSJ did not say this was a certainty to happen. Original story is, as usual, more nuanced than how it is being reported.
It does appear to be correlated in that particular instance.
I've seen that done more than a few times. Yup, it's a very common tactic for not just forum members but newspaper writers, editorials, blog articles, news reports, scholarly research papers etc.
Even more important for some AI posters tho is attacking the character of the person when you are unable to dispute the facts. That would be called egregious trolling.