Let's set this straight. The 5c was not a failure. The 5c just did not live up to Apple's expectations. By any other standards, the 5c sold better than every other phone on the planet except the 5s... but, 5c sales did not fill the gap that Apple was hoping it would fill. (I'm sure Apple was hoping for another 7-10 million sales)
I mean not occurring in nature. Or looking like they're man made.
Obviously red and green and such occur in nature, but neon colours look man made. I'm sure with enough Googling you could find some obscure parrot or undersea creature that looks neon, but most people won't have seen it, so to most people those colours will suggest "man made" which is the plastic being truthful to the viewer about it's origins.
AppleInsider wrote: »
Demand percentage for the iPhone 5c "turned out to be different than we thought," Cook said during his company's quarterly earnings conference call.
I say if they sell the thing off contract for 349-399 bucks, it would move like hotcakes.
if the cheaper one costs $200 less then you're cooking
Apple scraps crazy-popular products (see iPod nano)
suddenly newton wrote:
There was a time when Apple used plastic cases on everything including their top of the line PowerBook and Power Mac G4. Now plastic is low-rent.
I think the 5c would of done so much better in colored metal (iPod touch style).
According to many here that ridiculed the other manufacturers for still using 'cheap' plastic. Personally I don't have a problem with it and I much prefer the feel of plastic in my hand than hard metal edges.
I bought a 5c and wish I'd gotten a 5. It's all about the accessories. The 5 & 5s share the same size; cases etc. are interchangeable and there are many available. If you have a nice case or other accessories for a 5, you can reuse them with the 5s. The 5c has very few cases & accessories designed for it.
The 5c may have been targeted at new Apple customers, but once you have one you're effectively locked out of the iPhone accessory ecosystem.
I will ignore the first question…
You’re explicitly acknowledging it.
NO FREAKING DUH. And? That’s by design. Design.
It is not the same. Because they explicitly changed it. Because bringing out the 5 as-is would have been the same. Because that is literally the same. Except the 5C was changed. Physically and internally. It is not the same. It is different. Different is not the same.
Good. They should keep doing that. Morons who don’t know that a phone needs one-handed use aren’t a large enough market to be worth building for. Same with the people who still use dumb phones. Apple’s “leaving money on the table” by not catering to them, too.
Because you were wrong and we now have the numbers to prove it.
Yeah, it sold better than the 4S did.
The 4S wasn’t. The 4 wasn’t. It isn’t a budget phone.
It isn’t for emerging markets. It isn’t a budget phone. It sold better than the 4S.
Doy. And? This is by design. Do you not understand this? Was the lineup of 4, 4S, and 5 equally mystifying to you? They want to sell the newest model.
…it is not priced correctly which is the reason it has not sold as well as expected.
You know this?
WOW. JUST like the last two mid-range phones before it! WHAT a concept!
So you’d suggest they do EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID, huh? Maybe they should hire you¡
No, you should get an inkling and understand why they aren’t.
Apple isn’t IBM, for heaven’s sake. These ideas appeal to a market that is an order of magnitude smaller than the one toward which 5C is targeted. How’s that supposed to help them?
Marvin wrote: »
People can prefer the feel of plastic but would they pay $550 for it? There are materials that are just considered cheap - plastic cutlery vs metal, plastic plates vs ceramic, plastic watches vs metal/sapphire/glass, plastic jewellery vs metal, plastic tables vs marble. Plastic is considered cheap because of its abundance and its man-made appearance. If they want to make a plastic phone, that's ok but they need to build it to hit a price expectation of a plastic phone and $550 isn't it.
While we all hate a race to the bottom, it appears as if it may make sense to lower the retail price...maybe by $50. There is and has always been pricing pressure by competitors, but it's obvious that competition has heated up over the last year and if Apple wants to increase its installed base, it needs to lower price (a bit).
You mean like the $49 my son paid and got a $75 Walmart card on Black Friday?? Or the $49 I paid for my mothers and got a $49 Target card just before Christmas??
Who Nokia, "king of the market" before Samsung took the crown or Motorola, "king of the market" before Nokia???
The ex "kings of the market" have become irrelevant, sliding down the slippery slope of losing money chasing marketshare before anything else.
hill60 wrote: »
Apple sold 51 million iPhones, Samsung "shipped" 86 million "smartphones" but only nine million were Galaxy S4's.
The market has spoken, iPhone and smaller sized screens dominate sales.
Enough with the "big screen" crap already.
Not really, just pointing out reality and countering the idiotic idea that the iPhone's "tiny" screen is somehow illegible when a few years ago people were complaining it was too big.
Most "smartphones" sold have screens the same or smaller than iPhones.
I’d be willing to buy a larger screened iPhone to prove how unusable it is. *shrug*
dasanman69 wrote: »
It wasn't that long ago that people dropped $550 on a iPhone 3G/3GS and before then I remember people spending $700-900 on unlocked phones. Even today there's plenty of plastic phones being sold for much more than $550.
Marvin wrote: »
People buy plastic phones like the Galaxy S4 in spite of them being plastic, not because they are plastic.
How about a limited edition (PRODUCT) red version complete with matching red charger, lightning cable and headphones.
Apple could advertise it to raise awareness of (PRODUCT) red and what they do.
A black version also wouldn't go astray.
I agree. But instead of a Limited Edition model, Apple could just make a Liquid Black iPhone like the original iPhone, with either a black or white face, and offer the different colored iPhone backs as solid primary color cases (with no print on them), that could be either swapped out or be a cover; and make the colored (background) home screen customize-able.
What would have been extremely cool is if Apple offered an illuminated translucent frosted iPhone that could glow and change color (the back light would have to be LED to save on battery). If that is too much, Apple could just offer a frosted iPhone that glowed, and you would have colored translucent covers that you could change.
asdasd wrote: »
If a bigger screen ever comes to be, of course, you and TS will be its biggest defenders. Oh, and Apple also *shipped* 51 million. They probably sold more than that as they had built up inventories.