Proverbs, idioms and the like are usually phrases that one learns as a child from their elders from within a particular culture...
After reading up on the subject, although it has been written several times on the Internet that it is a common phrase, all of the actual literary references appear to be quite obscure. I grew up in Central America where it never came up in my upbringing, nor did I encounter it in my studies in the States. I was not a Literature major. The reference in the MR film appears to be the the widest exposure of the phrase in recorded history as it probably has the broadest audience, especially compared to the Latin, Hebrew and Dutch origins of the phrase.
you mean Dutch philosophy is not mandatory in the Central America primary education system? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you. /s
Well, I knew the "Country of the Blind" trope from reading the H.G. Wells story at an early age, but my favorite usage is in the Michael Flynn novel of the same name—kind of a reverse Difference Engine.
Thanks. Interesting reading. Just goes to show how exchanging a single word, "country" for "land" while doing an Internet search turns up results which were omitted when searching the original phrase that was quoted here. I probably should have been familiar with the H. G. Wells version however, I did not read that work either.
Well, reading the Wikipedia article, I realized I'd only read the revised 1939 version and not he 1904 one, and now I've got to try and find the 2001 revision of the Flynn novel, which I didn't know existed. We can all learn something every day. Unless we work for MicroSoft.
Quote: "The close relationship between Android licensees like Samsung and journalists covering the consumer electronics industry has grown increasingly sketchy."
I assume 'sketchy' in USA speak means 'dodgy' in UK speak? In UK speak that would mean vague.
Even in the USA "dodgy" would have been a better word to use in place of "sketchy" as sketchy has a dual meaning here and dodgy has only one.
Quote: "The close relationship between Android licensees like Samsung and journalists covering the consumer electronics industry has grown increasingly sketchy."
I assume 'sketchy' in USA speak means 'dodgy' in UK speak? In UK speak that would mean vague.
Even in the USA "dodgy" would have been a better word to use in place of "sketchy" as sketchy has a dual meaning here and dodgy has only one.
if there is any doubt, I'd suggest the dictionary for sketchy. I know of no USA dodgy. Its a British word.
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that's the 3rd meaning actually.
see above.
1. rough drawing
2. incomplete, unclear
3. questionalbe, iffy
I guess we could use "shady" here, but that is a bit stronger of a word. IMHO, sketchy is leaves the possibility of things being on the up and up (i.e. questionable), while shady means you are pretty sure something is wrong, you just don't know what.
you calling me a crook? I'm not sure. Its sketchy.
you calling me a crook? Well you do seem a bit shady. *fight!*
how can you guys get past the first five paragraphs in this drivel. i'm cognisant that this is pro-Apple website. Still, the writing is poor, unimaginative and makes one cringe, including myself who has the home stacked to the gills w/ apple products. I'm a fan-boy but geesh.
how can you guys get past the first five paragraphs in this drivel. i'm cognisant that this is pro-Apple website. Still, the writing is poor, unimaginative and makes one cringe, including myself who has the home stacked to the gills w/ apple products. I'm a fan-boy but geesh.
#1. Always try to understand a person's motivation for saying what they say.
#2. Never trust anyone who calls themselves a fan-boy.
someone sure is bent on taking the steam out of DED's writing. Must be working. Congrats DED.
CNet should be ashamed of itself accepting bribes from Samsung and Microsoft.
I always suspected some glowing reviews for MS Surface were paid for and it still does not sell.
This is cheating their customers and readers. Fortunately most people are not stupid and think before buying.
If you think cnet is bad, try reading zdnet for more than 5 minutes. The obviously influenced bias is overwhelming.
I would be cautious if I were you, ded. You've made some claims in this article that could be interpreted as accusations of illegal behavior (though you don't seem to know the legal definition of "payola," which refers narrowly to the record industry, see 47 USC 317) for which you don't have legally meaningful evidence. If any of them are incorrect, you could open yourself up to charges of libel.
DED gives the term apple fanboy a whole new meaning. Loved the article and thanks for the knowledge!
Knowledge? What knowledge? There is nothing but pure speculation here regarding the reasons for the so-called negative press coverage. He has not one shred of evidence that it's because of "Apple's failure to pay." He simply made this up, plain and simple. How can anyone take him seriously when he writes such hysterical and baseless drivel? He gives Apple fans a bad name.
I hate that movie though. Apparently in the future wifi and ethernet are lost technologies which were substituted with glass diskettes.
Not trying to be a snob, but the short story by Philip K. Dick was really much better. Maybe 'cos when I read the story, I didn't have to picture Tom Cruise in my head!
I can't imagine any more biased writing than this article we're commenting on. It's laughable.
Guess who wasn’t paid by Apple to write it.
Guess who completely missed the topic of discussion.
guess who is encouraged to write more of the same when he gets the right kind of attention. Both good and bad.
its seems that just about every weekend, we get one of DED's editorials and the outcome seems pretty much consistent.
#1. Lots of people complimenting the article and thanking DED for a job well done.
#2. A few people completely lose it and resorting to name calling, threatening to leave the web site, and other meaningless shenanigans.
thats exactly what a successful editorial is designed to do.
p.s. IMHO, pointing out typo's, grammar, word usage, and other pointless OCD mumbo jumbo is so petty. lol.. who cares... Language is used to communicate a message. The editorials are obviously received and understood just fine as is. Job accomplished.
I humbly request you pen one of your historically-based articles detailing how Objective-C has moved to being one of the least known programming languages to one of the most used throughout the world. According to Tiobe, Java is now number 2 and at the current rate Objective-C will pass it to become the 2nd most popular programming language after C, of course, by Summer. I think the history of Objective-C would be an interesting read and I think you're the author to write it.
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After reading up on the subject, although it has been written several times on the Internet that it is a common phrase, all of the actual literary references appear to be quite obscure. I grew up in Central America where it never came up in my upbringing, nor did I encounter it in my studies in the States. I was not a Literature major. The reference in the MR film appears to be the the widest exposure of the phrase in recorded history as it probably has the broadest audience, especially compared to the Latin, Hebrew and Dutch origins of the phrase.
you mean Dutch philosophy is not mandatory in the Central America primary education system? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you. /s
Well, reading the Wikipedia article, I realized I'd only read the revised 1939 version and not he 1904 one, and now I've got to try and find the 2001 revision of the Flynn novel, which I didn't know existed. We can all learn something every day. Unless we work for MicroSoft.
Ha Ha, no. I went to a private school which was probably equal to or better than US public schools at the time. We did study Dutch painters though.
Even in the USA "dodgy" would have been a better word to use in place of "sketchy" as sketchy has a dual meaning here and dodgy has only one.
Quote: "The close relationship between Android licensees like Samsung and journalists covering the consumer electronics industry has grown increasingly sketchy."
I assume 'sketchy' in USA speak means 'dodgy' in UK speak? In UK speak that would mean vague.
Even in the USA "dodgy" would have been a better word to use in place of "sketchy" as sketchy has a dual meaning here and dodgy has only one.
if there is any doubt, I'd suggest the dictionary for sketchy. I know of no USA dodgy. Its a British word.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sketchy
sketchy
adjective \?ske-ch?\: not complete or clear
: done quickly without many details
: likely to be bad or dangerous
Full Definition of SKETCHY
What’s the dual meaning? “In the style of a sketch”? I think we can parse the difference.
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What’s the dual meaning? “In the style of a sketch”? I think we can parse the difference.
" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
that's the 3rd meaning actually.
see above.
1. rough drawing
2. incomplete, unclear
3. questionalbe, iffy
I guess we could use "shady" here, but that is a bit stronger of a word. IMHO, sketchy is leaves the possibility of things being on the up and up (i.e. questionable), while shady means you are pretty sure something is wrong, you just don't know what.
you calling me a crook? I'm not sure. Its sketchy.
you calling me a crook? Well you do seem a bit shady. *fight!*
how can you guys get past the first five paragraphs in this drivel. i'm cognisant that this is pro-Apple website. Still, the writing is poor, unimaginative and makes one cringe, including myself who has the home stacked to the gills w/ apple products. I'm a fan-boy but geesh.
#1. Always try to understand a person's motivation for saying what they say.
#2. Never trust anyone who calls themselves a fan-boy.
someone sure is bent on taking the steam out of DED's writing. Must be working. Congrats DED.
If you think cnet is bad, try reading zdnet for more than 5 minutes. The obviously influenced bias is overwhelming.
It's all that Samsung money floating around. They are even paying people here. At $1m a post.
No the reason people don't like DED is many fold. Bad writing. Over writing. Paranoid. Illogical arguments. Sock puppetry.
#1. Always try to understand a person's motivation for saying what they say.
#2. Never trust anyone who calls themselves a fan-boy.
someone sure is bent on taking the steam out of DED's writing. Must be working. Congrats DED.
It's all that Samsung money floating around. They are even paying people here. At $1m a post.
No the reason people don't like DED is many fold. Bad writing. Over writing. Paranoid. Illogical arguments. Sock puppetry.
its interesting what pops up in a search engine when you type unusual phrases that people type.
something that caught my eye, like:
"stacked to the gills" and "iPhone", the expression is "packed to the gills". So when someone uses it wrong in a unique way it catches my eye.
just saying.
DED gives the term apple fanboy a whole new meaning. Loved the article and thanks for the knowledge!
Knowledge? What knowledge? There is nothing but pure speculation here regarding the reasons for the so-called negative press coverage. He has not one shred of evidence that it's because of "Apple's failure to pay." He simply made this up, plain and simple. How can anyone take him seriously when he writes such hysterical and baseless drivel? He gives Apple fans a bad name.
If you think cnet is bad, try reading zdnet for more than 5 minutes. The obviously influenced bias is overwhelming.
I can't imagine any more biased writing than this article we're commenting on. It's laughable.
Guess who wasn’t paid by Apple to write it.
Guess who completely missed the topic of discussion.
The Pitch
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That's a long post, but it should get the usual suspects going.
Exhibit A:
I was wondering if that SSL vulnerability would cause a DED meltdown. Meltdown confirmed.
Exhibit B:
Ranty McRantman on a ranty rant again.
Nice "Minority Report" reference.
I hate that movie though. Apparently in the future wifi and ethernet are lost technologies which were substituted with glass diskettes.
Not trying to be a snob, but the short story by Philip K. Dick was really much better. Maybe 'cos when I read the story, I didn't have to picture Tom Cruise in my head!
Guess who wasn’t paid by Apple to write it.
Guess who completely missed the topic of discussion.
guess who is encouraged to write more of the same when he gets the right kind of attention. Both good and bad.
its seems that just about every weekend, we get one of DED's editorials and the outcome seems pretty much consistent.
#1. Lots of people complimenting the article and thanking DED for a job well done.
#2. A few people completely lose it and resorting to name calling, threatening to leave the web site, and other meaningless shenanigans.
thats exactly what a successful editorial is designed to do.
p.s. IMHO, pointing out typo's, grammar, word usage, and other pointless OCD mumbo jumbo is so petty. lol.. who cares... Language is used to communicate a message. The editorials are obviously received and understood just fine as is. Job accomplished.
I humbly request you pen one of your historically-based articles detailing how Objective-C has moved to being one of the least known programming languages to one of the most used throughout the world. According to Tiobe, Java is now number 2 and at the current rate Objective-C will pass it to become the 2nd most popular programming language after C, of course, by Summer. I think the history of Objective-C would be an interesting read and I think you're the author to write it.
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