Apple's failure to pay for favorable media coverage flies in the face of Samsung's payola

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  • Reply 81 of 316
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    I am not aware of its usage in that film although I can see how this common American English proverb could be used in both the film and book.


     

    Good to know. I was not aware it was a common idiom. I've only heard it in the MR instance.

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  • Reply 82 of 316
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    I think you've misinterpreted the CNET story. CNET actively sought to monetize its already favourable reviews by charging companies to republish those stories. It's a shady business scheme but it's a stretch to say that CNET has accepted bribes in exchange for positive reviews.


     

    Yes.  That's true.  However, I still wonder if they wrote the glowing reviews in advance and with intent to monetize them later.

    It's sad that a news and review site like CNet has turned to this tactic to make money.

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  • Reply 83 of 316
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    softeky wrote: »
    On a related note, would somebody please enlighten me as I am genuinely interested in the following...

    A number of times now, when I have described to friends how I prefer iOS over Android for its ecosystem, consistency across apps, ease of use, speed, etc., I have had Consumer Reports thrown in my face (as if that's the last (and only) word on the subject).

    Was it ever shown that Consumer Reports was, in some way, influenced by the "Android Lobby"?

    I do so hate playing chess with pidgeons.

    Then don't play. Any real friends would respect your choice of platform, and you should respect theirs.
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  • Reply 84 of 316
    snova wrote: »
    mstone wrote: »
     
    solipsismx wrote: »
     
    [CONTENTEMBED=/t/162155/apples-failure-to-pay-for-favorable-media-coverage-flies-in-the-face-of-samsungs-payola/40#post_2476344 layout=inline]In the kingdom of the Android the one iPhone is king.[/CONTENTEMBED]
    Nice "Minority Report" reference. 

    I hate that movie though. Apparently in the future wifi and ethernet are lost technologies which were substituted with glass diskettes.

    Just kidding. It is an entertaining movie so long as you ignore the supposed advanced tech. 
    I think the name Android must have been some twisted and evil joke by a Goggle executive.   A botnet of cloneable minions for which we harvest data from.  Billions upon billions of droids connected to and watched by our network. Not humans with privacy rights; but servants to play with as we like to harvest and sell their data.  bha bah ha ha.  

    but why would people agree to this?  just tell them its free and open.


    feels more like a combination of "Soylent Green" and "The Matrix" to me than "Minority Report"

    I'm reminded of the AIs in Dan Simmons' <i>Hyperion</i> and <i>Fall of Hyperion</i> who are using everyone's brains as additional computer power while they're passing through the matter transmitters.
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  • Reply 85 of 316
    bobschlobbobschlob Posts: 1,074member
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    Nice "Minority Report" reference. 

     

    I hate that movie though. Apparently in the future wifi and ethernet are lost technologies which were substituted with glass diskettes.

     

    Just kidding. It is an entertaining movie so long as you ignore the supposed advanced tech. 


     

    Yeah, always thought that was funny that in that movie the future has resorted back to "sneakernet". <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" /> 

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  • Reply 86 of 316
    I despise the mainstream media in this country. They are getting too powerful and too corrupt. It's not about reporting who, what, when, where, and why but it's about greasing palms and influence peddling. Not only in the tech world but also in the reporting of what is supposedly news. I hope that Apple stays the course and continues to do what they've always done, make great products that people love. That means telling the tech publications to go pound sand and continuing to raise the bar for their competition. In other words, give Samsung something else to copy.
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  • Reply 87 of 316
    My respect for Daniel Eran Dilger has risen, and for that matter, for AppleInsider for publishing this article.
    I'm sure the payola has extended to AppleInsider. AppleInsider should be transparent regarding this issue and expose any attempts to subvert it and, in fact, do a story on payola in the media.
    We, I, demand a Fifth Estate which informs us without bias.

    Best regards.
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  • Reply 88 of 316

    My phone was bricked after the "small" update. Luckily, I was at home and connected to iTunes. Sucks.

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  • Reply 89 of 316
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    Nice "Minority Report" reference. 

     

    I hate that movie though. Apparently in the future wifi and ethernet are lost technologies which were substituted with glass diskettes.

     

    Just kidding. It is an entertaining movie so long as you ignore the supposed advanced tech. 


     

    Heh not to be mean but thinking it's a reference to a movie is kind of sad. Education...you has it.

     

    This is one of the more useless editorials I've read - as far as security holes go, this is one of the larger, easier to exploit ones. Payment companies - whether they be Visa, Paypal, or Square - spend a ton of time worrying about man in the middle attacks. An issue that exists at the OS level compromises all of that unfortunately.

     

    So is it the end of Apple or even a roadbump in the long view? Of course not. But to pretend that it's not a serious issue that isn't yet closed in the entire Apple ecosystem is just sticking your head into the ground. Shouting about how other companies might be worse doesn't change the severity of this incident.

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  • Reply 90 of 316
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    kevliu1980 wrote: »
    Heh not to be mean but thinking it's a reference to a movie is kind of sad. Education...you has it.

    Cool it! Proverbs, idioms and the like are usually phrases that one learns as a child from their elders from within a particular culture so mstone remembering it from a film is likely more about him being attentive then him being poorly educated. I certainly don't recall it from that movie despite having seen the it more than once, but I know it because my particular upbringing had it repeated on a multitude of occasions.
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  • Reply 91 of 316
    snovasnova Posts: 1,281member

    great editorial DED.     Feel sorry for all of the guys who's voices can be bought.   Its rare to find to find someone who puts their integrity ahead of their paycheck. 

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  • Reply 92 of 316
    hill60 wrote: »
    It's not a "vulnerability" it's an NSA backdoor, or that's how the latest take goes.

    And if it was in fact an NSA backdoor, which employee at Apple snuck it through?
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  • Reply 93 of 316
    snovasnova Posts: 1,281member
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    Heh not to be mean but thinking it's a reference to a movie is kind of sad. Education...you has it.

     

    This is one of the more useless editorials I've read - as far as security holes go, this is one of the larger, easier to exploit ones. Payment companies - whether they be Visa, Paypal, or Square - spend a ton of time worrying about man in the middle attacks. An issue that exists at the OS level compromises all of that unfortunately.

     

    So is it the end of Apple or even a roadbump in the long view? Of course not. But to pretend that it's not a serious issue that isn't yet closed in the entire Apple ecosystem is just sticking your head into the ground. Shouting about how other companies might be worse doesn't change the severity of this incident.


     

    hello sunshine. feeling upbeat and happy today I see.  You light up any room you enter with the love in your heart. People want to be like you and be close to you. You know exactly what you want to accomplish immediately and you do it with such grace. You are blessed. 
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  • Reply 94 of 316
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,927member
    softeky wrote: »
    On a related note, would somebody please enlighten me as I am genuinely interested in the following...

    A number of times now, when I have described to friends how I prefer iOS over Android for its ecosystem, consistency across apps, ease of use, speed, etc., I have had Consumer Reports thrown in my face (as if that's the last (and only) word on the subject).

    Was it ever shown that Consumer Reports was, in some way, influenced by the "Android Lobby"?

    I do so hate playing chess with pidgeons.

    CR is subjective and they like checklists. You can't really rate experience and you can't place a check mark next to that either. SD card: check; large screen: check; openness: check. = Android "win"
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  • Reply 95 of 316
    Apple Sucks.....
    Sent from my super awesome iPhone 5s
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  • Reply 96 of 316
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    Proverbs, idioms and the like are usually phrases that one learns as a child from their elders from within a particular culture...


    After reading up on the subject, although it has been written several times on the Internet that it is a common phrase, all of the actual literary references appear to be quite obscure. I grew up in Central America where it never came up in my upbringing, nor did I encounter it in my studies in the States. I was not a Literature major. The reference in the MR film appears to be the the widest exposure of the phrase in recorded history as it probably has the broadest audience, especially compared to the Latin,  Hebrew and Dutch origins of the phrase.

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  • Reply 97 of 316
    Well, I knew the "Country of the Blind" trope from reading the H.G. Wells story at an early age, but my favorite usage is in the Michael Flynn novel of the same name—kind of a reverse Difference Engine.
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  • Reply 98 of 316
    CNet should be ashamed of itself accepting bribes from Samsung and Microsoft.
    I always suspected some glowing reviews for MS Surface were paid for and it still does not sell.

    This is cheating their customers and readers. Fortunately most people are not stupid and think before buying.
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  • Reply 99 of 316
    Cnet is a bloody joke. I hardly use their app anymore. I figured a while back that they reporting was suspect. I wonder if being owned by CBS Interactive has put them in the proverbial toilet.
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  • Reply 100 of 316
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    Well, I knew the "Country of the Blind" trope from reading the H.G. Wells story at an early age, but my favorite usage is in the Michael Flynn novel of the same name—kind of a reverse Difference Engine.

    Thanks. Interesting reading. Just goes to show how exchanging a single word, "country" for "land" while doing an Internet search turns up results which were omitted when searching the original phrase that was quoted here. I probably should have been familiar with the H. G. Wells version however, I did not read that work either.

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