You are obviously a troll or 67tt7886 just happens that i live in europe too and i understand and speak spanish perfectly Siri in spanish sounds by far better than the US version..Spanish Siri literally wipes the floor with Google Now and other asistants, ur just playing stupid try to even to compare others with Siri!!!!! and Apple Maps well everybody in europe who uses iPhones knows you're full of crap1!!!!
I am not trolling. I do not know about Spanish I am fluent English speaker and I use SIRI in English. Phone book is literally unusable when pronouncing non-english names. Maybe Spanish is good, I can't say that, after-all I believe there is more Spanish speaking people in US then English right? So it must be good.
I am not comparing this to Google now. I wouldn't like to have that in my car either. I don't know why you think I am full of shit? Go try to find a Ski resort in Austria on Apple maps. Yeah right, unless it's Kitzbuhel or you know exact address you are left in the dark... And SKI resort is a huge place, imagine finding a business or something smaller and not knowing the Address. It's just not in. I'm left in the dark in 50% or more when I try to find some places of interest/business. I always have to open Google Maps to find a place without address... that much for that...
I spent over 10k EURO on Apple products in my life. That's a lot of money. I love my Macs, I love iPad and I love iPhone. I just get impression that some of these products get worse with every iteration. Apple is releasing funny features, that do not do us much. In the meantime I am waiting and waiting Apple to fix some of the core apps, but there's nothing (Mail, Calendar, etc...). Just some UI and make-up features that make things better and in a lot of times worse. Steve's absence is definitely getting more and more visible. And what's about with the iPhone size? Where's the bigger screen? I get envy on my work colleagues when they read email on bigger droid screens. It's really better to have bigger screen for that. I am not saying 5.5 inch here. But 4.5 or 5 could be something that works really well.
So far Carplay looks hideous. Tesla's interface is much better. No need for Tesla to downgrade.
At destinguish things you're terrible..because what your saying is that crap is better than a 20 year old pussy!!please find something else to do and keep ur opinions to yourself
Since Tesla market is high end I think they should support it. On the other hand, they already have a very powerfull system it there, Carplay alone would be a downgrade. They need to find a way to merge carplay into there features to do it.
All I got to say is Tesla, why did you stop selling and producing the roadster??? I'm so sad right now I just started watching Dallas and I saw that car only to find out they don't make it anymore. Literally worst day of my life lol
I am not trolling. I do not know about Spanish I am fluent English speaker and I use SIRI in English. Phone book is literally unusable when pronouncing non-english names. Maybe Spanish is good, I can't say that, after-all I believe there is more Spanish speaking people in US then English right? So it must be good.
I am not comparing this to Google now. I wouldn't like to have that either in my car. I don't know why you think I am full of shit. Go try to find a Ski resort in Austria on Apple maps. Yeah right, unless you know exact address you are left in the dark... And SKI resort is a huge thing, imagine finding a business or something and not knowing the Address. It's just not in. I'm left in the dark in 50% or more when I go use it. I always have to open Google Maps to find a place without address... that much for that...
Sorry about that i got carried away today i just find out that Siri Spanish she's amazing and i got tricked by some Youtube Techsite and all this time i thought Google Now was better, but believe me it's good thing to have Apple on your car! they are only one who listens to you and gives you fast updates instead of waiting from your company car 2, 3 years..but if want something fixed like Maps you have to report to them
Why, then, are the supposedly-synergistic Apple and Tesla not cooperating in the most obvious arena?
Maybe they are, but they're just not issuing press releases.
Or maybe Musk wants to eventually add Google's self-driving technology to Tesla cars, and Google is using that to keep Tesla away from CarPlay.
Or maybe the Musk-Apple meeting was about battery technology and possible investments in the Gigafactory and/or eventual joint battery production deals in the future. Supposedly the Gigafactory will require $4 - 5 billion, $2 billion of which will come from outside Tesla from investors. And apparently Apple and Tesla will ship roughly the same tonnage of batteries this year, in their respective mobile devices and automobiles. (Different battery technologies for now, but things change.)
All I got to say is Tesla, why did you stop selling and producing the roadster??? I'm so sad right now I just started watching Dallas and I saw that car only to find out they don't make it anymore. Literally worst day of my life lol
Two words: previously owned.
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Originally Posted by jkichline
Guess I won't be considering a Tesla.
If true, you would be incredibly short sighted to pass on the most revolutionary vehicle in 20 years simply because it did not mirror your iPhone's UI. If that's your only consideration for a car, put some wheels on your iPhone and have a seat.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
So what base OS does Tesla use use? So far it seems that Apple has paired with companies that use QNX. What does VW Group use?
Maybe he's Scott Forestall with a lot of virtually represented sour grapes.
Tesla rolled their own. It's based on Linux.
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Originally Posted by BobSchlob
Don't mean this as a pump for CarPlay. (What I've seen so far doesn't exactly blow me away), but Tesla's system is a clusterF...
It's basically 50% driving a car, and 50% screwing around with a computer (As it is, they might as well just get it over with and install a 27 inch display in there). Just way too much interfacing with a computer screen. Even to do the most simple direct task. Basically a car designed by computer geeks, rather than human interface designers.
If only Apple had bought these guys way back when. The Jonny Ive design sensibility would have brought these vehicles up to all that they really could be.
No idea where they will end up, but as it currently stands, they definitely seem to be much more into the Android aesthetic / philosophy.
Have you actually driven a Model S, or do you own one? I have and I do. Take it from someone who drives this car every single day, the computer's super clean interface on a 17" touch screen is a godsend compared to the ancient dashboards of today with clunky buttons and knobs which are distracting in themselves. I find the Model S has far fewer interior distractions than other vehicles. The touch screen is pure bliss to use.
Elon Musk and the Google founders are close personal friends. Tesla's operating system is based on Linux. Musk, in principle, favors open systems to proprietary ones. He's planning on putting together an SDK for developers to add apps to the Model S which follow their own rules - not Android, not iOS. The car's OS already assigns an app to either the top or bottom half of the screen. CarPlay and Android integration need only be apps to the car, living and sandboxed in their own part of the screen, and it would work just fine without altering the vehicle OS in any way. You'd know that if you spent any time with the Model S.
IMO, the whole carplay UI is a freaking rare misstep for Apple. Just total shame.
Where the f@ck did the "Eye-Free" concept go? There should be freaking NO visual interface between iOS and the driver. Everything should be voice enabled, from navigation up to a choice of a radio station.
P.S.
Actually, I almost get I what want already today without carplay just by connecting my iPhone to the Bluetooth system. The only thing that bothers me is having to long click the home button in my pocket to activate Siri. I would rather have a dedicated button on the steering wheel.
I spent over 10k EURO on Apple products in my life. That's a lot of money. I love my Macs, I love iPad and I love iPhone. I just get impression that some of these products get worse with every iteration. Apple is releasing funny features, that do not do us much. In the meantime I am waiting and waiting Apple to fix some of the core apps, but there's nothing (Mail, Calendar, etc...). Just some UI and make-up features that make things better and in a lot of times worse. Steve's absence is definitely getting more and more visible. And what's about with the iPhone size? Where's the bigger screen? I get envy on my work colleagues when they read email on bigger droid screens. It's really better to have bigger screen for that. I am not saying 5.5 inch here. But 4.5 or 5 could be something that works really well.
Regarding the CarPlay we'll see...
Wow that is a lot of money Macs are expensive (i blame Intel) but they are 100% usefull however iDevices they are not quite as usefull but eventually they will be, this year iOS 8 will probably introduce true multitasking and your in luck if you like bigger screens this year we gonna get a 4.5 inch iPhone, a bigger iPhone next year and later an iPad nano
Apple are good making amazing products but sometimes they are failing at small things but eventually they get it fixed
For all the press it receives, and the early adopters it attracts, Tesla is still only a very small player in the auto industry. That they haven't signed up for CarPlay (yet?) isn't a reason for alarm.
IMO, most people are approaching CarPlay from the wrong angle. It's not an attempt by Apple to take over the car, but merely a deeper, more consistent method of integrating of iOS, and its interface into vehicles. Both Apple and each automaker get to maintain control of their own domains, and the experience they want to present to drivers. Good for both parties.
Apple has signed up an impressive roster, including all the largest marques in Japan, the major Korean maker, and a good portion of American, French, and German marques.
The glaring absences are VAG (who are going from QNX to Android), and Fiat/Chrysler (Microsoft, excluding Ferrari, which operates autonomously, and chose Apple). I'd be more concerned about these two than Tesla.
All I got to say is Tesla, why did you stop selling and producing the roadster??? I'm so sad right now I just started watching Dallas and I saw that car only to find out they don't make it anymore. Literally worst day of my life lol
The Roadster was problematic, virtually all of them were rebuilt by Tesla. The Model S is a superior car. And The Roadsters are avaialble on Tesla's website pre owned if you really like them. I agree they look great, I've seen a few around LA, I drive an 02' Z3M BMW and lust after the Roadster.
Many cars like the Camaro with MyLink support Siri Eyes Free integration through a steering wheel button. You must have a car that does integrate as well.
CarPlay is NOT a replacement for Siri Eyes Free, but simply adds visual and touch, if you want to interface in that manner.
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Originally Posted by jason98
IMO, the whole carplay UI is a freaking rare misstep for Apple. Just total shame.
Where the f@ck did the "Eye-Free" concept go? There should be freaking NO visual interface between iOS and the driver. Everything should be voice enabled, from navigation up to a choice of a radio station.
P.S.
Actually, I almost get I what want already today without carplay just by connecting my iPhone to the Bluetooth system. The only thing that bothers me is having to long click the home button in my pocket to activate Siri. I would rather have a dedicated button on the steering wheel.
All I got to say is Tesla, why did you stop selling and producing the roadster??? I'm so sad right now I just started watching Dallas and I saw that car only to find out they don't make it anymore. Literally worst day of my life lol
Two words: previously owned.
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Originally Posted by jkichline
Guess I won't be considering a Tesla.
If true, you would be incredibly short sighted to pass on the most revolutionary vehicle in 20 years simply because it did not mirror your iPhone's UI. If that's your only consideration for a car, put some wheels on your iPhone and have a seat.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
So what base OS does Tesla use use? So far it seems that Apple has paired with companies that use QNX. What does VW Group use?
Maybe he's Scott Forestall with a lot of virtually represented sour grapes.
Tesla rolled their own. It's based on Linux.
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Originally Posted by BobSchlob
Don't mean this as a pump for CarPlay. (What I've seen so far doesn't exactly blow me away), but Tesla's system is a clusterF...
It's basically 50% driving a car, and 50% screwing around with a computer (As it is, they might as well just get it over with and install a 27 inch display in there). Just way too much interfacing with a computer screen. Even to do the most simple direct task. Basically a car designed by computer geeks, rather than human interface designers.
If only Apple had bought these guys way back when. The Jonny Ive design sensibility would have brought these vehicles up to all that they really could be.
No idea where they will end up, but as it currently stands, they definitely seem to be much more into the Android aesthetic / philosophy.
" He's planning on putting together an SDK for developers to add apps to the Model S which follow their own rules - not Android, not iOS. The car's OS already assigns an app to either the top or bottom half of the screen. CarPlay and Android integration need only be apps to the car, living and sandboxed in their own part of the screen, and it would work just fine without altering the vehicle OS in any way. You'd know that if you spent any time with the Model S."
Yeah. Thanks for further illustrating my point. ClusterF.
Less and less attention to actually driving the car. Great as a computer though. Can't wait till next generation with 21" screen. Woot!
Edit: Don't get me wrong; LOVE the company and the (general) direction they are going.
Siri needs to get a lot better at complex tasks (or multitasking) before she is ready to assist with driver requests. In my experience she does not understand the word 'and'.
Example: Show me a map of Sam's house and send him a text that I am running late.
It never occurred to me to even try to speak a list of different commands to Siri and expect her to go off and complete them. Some commands require user feedback like sending a text, Siri: "Shall I send it?" So you can verify she heard you correctly and is sending the text you want instead of some horrible autocorrected text.
But when I issued two separated commands: 1) "Send Sam a text" 2) "Now show me a map of his house." She did it with no problem.
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You are obviously a troll or 67tt7886 just happens that i live in europe too and i understand and speak spanish perfectly Siri in spanish sounds by far better than the US version..Spanish Siri literally wipes the floor with Google Now and other asistants, ur just playing stupid try to even to compare others with Siri!!!!! and Apple Maps well everybody in europe who uses iPhones knows you're full of crap1!!!!
I am not trolling. I do not know about Spanish I am fluent English speaker and I use SIRI in English. Phone book is literally unusable when pronouncing non-english names. Maybe Spanish is good, I can't say that, after-all I believe there is more Spanish speaking people in US then English right? So it must be good.
I am not comparing this to Google now. I wouldn't like to have that in my car either. I don't know why you think I am full of shit? Go try to find a Ski resort in Austria on Apple maps. Yeah right, unless it's Kitzbuhel or you know exact address you are left in the dark... And SKI resort is a huge place, imagine finding a business or something smaller and not knowing the Address. It's just not in. I'm left in the dark in 50% or more when I try to find some places of interest/business. I always have to open Google Maps to find a place without address... that much for that...
I spent over 10k EURO on Apple products in my life. That's a lot of money. I love my Macs, I love iPad and I love iPhone. I just get impression that some of these products get worse with every iteration. Apple is releasing funny features, that do not do us much. In the meantime I am waiting and waiting Apple to fix some of the core apps, but there's nothing (Mail, Calendar, etc...). Just some UI and make-up features that make things better and in a lot of times worse. Steve's absence is definitely getting more and more visible. And what's about with the iPhone size? Where's the bigger screen? I get envy on my work colleagues when they read email on bigger droid screens. It's really better to have bigger screen for that. I am not saying 5.5 inch here. But 4.5 or 5 could be something that works really well.
Regarding the CarPlay we'll see...
So far Carplay looks hideous. Tesla's interface is much better. No need for Tesla to downgrade.
At destinguish things you're terrible..because what your saying is that crap is better than a 20 year old pussy!!please find something else to do and keep ur opinions to yourself
A car company.
I know what it was but i din't want to be rude
Since Tesla market is high end I think they should support it. On the other hand, they already have a very powerfull system it there, Carplay alone would be a downgrade. They need to find a way to merge carplay into there features to do it.
I am not trolling. I do not know about Spanish I am fluent English speaker and I use SIRI in English. Phone book is literally unusable when pronouncing non-english names. Maybe Spanish is good, I can't say that, after-all I believe there is more Spanish speaking people in US then English right? So it must be good.
I am not comparing this to Google now. I wouldn't like to have that either in my car. I don't know why you think I am full of shit. Go try to find a Ski resort in Austria on Apple maps. Yeah right, unless you know exact address you are left in the dark... And SKI resort is a huge thing, imagine finding a business or something and not knowing the Address. It's just not in. I'm left in the dark in 50% or more when I go use it. I always have to open Google Maps to find a place without address... that much for that...
Sorry about that i got carried away today i just find out that Siri Spanish she's amazing and i got tricked by some Youtube Techsite and all this time i thought Google Now was better, but believe me it's good thing to have Apple on your car! they are only one who listens to you and gives you fast updates instead of waiting from your company car 2, 3 years..but if want something fixed like Maps you have to report to them
Why, then, are the supposedly-synergistic Apple and Tesla not cooperating in the most obvious arena?
Maybe they are, but they're just not issuing press releases.
Or maybe Musk wants to eventually add Google's self-driving technology to Tesla cars, and Google is using that to keep Tesla away from CarPlay.
Or maybe the Musk-Apple meeting was about battery technology and possible investments in the Gigafactory and/or eventual joint battery production deals in the future. Supposedly the Gigafactory will require $4 - 5 billion, $2 billion of which will come from outside Tesla from investors. And apparently Apple and Tesla will ship roughly the same tonnage of batteries this year, in their respective mobile devices and automobiles. (Different battery technologies for now, but things change.)
Why just parts? I have a pic of the entire car.
All I got to say is Tesla, why did you stop selling and producing the roadster???
Two words: previously owned.
Guess I won't be considering a Tesla.
If true, you would be incredibly short sighted to pass on the most revolutionary vehicle in 20 years simply because it did not mirror your iPhone's UI. If that's your only consideration for a car, put some wheels on your iPhone and have a seat.
So what base OS does Tesla use use? So far it seems that Apple has paired with companies that use QNX. What does VW Group use?
Maybe he's Scott Forestall with a lot of virtually represented sour grapes.
Tesla rolled their own. It's based on Linux.
Don't mean this as a pump for CarPlay. (What I've seen so far doesn't exactly blow me away), but Tesla's system is a clusterF...
It's basically 50% driving a car, and 50% screwing around with a computer (As it is, they might as well just get it over with and install a 27 inch display in there). Just way too much interfacing with a computer screen. Even to do the most simple direct task. Basically a car designed by computer geeks, rather than human interface designers.
If only Apple had bought these guys way back when. The Jonny Ive design sensibility would have brought these vehicles up to all that they really could be.
No idea where they will end up, but as it currently stands, they definitely seem to be much more into the Android aesthetic / philosophy.
Have you actually driven a Model S, or do you own one? I have and I do. Take it from someone who drives this car every single day, the computer's super clean interface on a 17" touch screen is a godsend compared to the ancient dashboards of today with clunky buttons and knobs which are distracting in themselves. I find the Model S has far fewer interior distractions than other vehicles. The touch screen is pure bliss to use.
Elon Musk and the Google founders are close personal friends. Tesla's operating system is based on Linux. Musk, in principle, favors open systems to proprietary ones. He's planning on putting together an SDK for developers to add apps to the Model S which follow their own rules - not Android, not iOS. The car's OS already assigns an app to either the top or bottom half of the screen. CarPlay and Android integration need only be apps to the car, living and sandboxed in their own part of the screen, and it would work just fine without altering the vehicle OS in any way. You'd know that if you spent any time with the Model S.
IMO, the whole carplay UI is a freaking rare misstep for Apple. Just total shame.
Where the f@ck did the "Eye-Free" concept go? There should be freaking NO visual interface between iOS and the driver. Everything should be voice enabled, from navigation up to a choice of a radio station.
P.S.
Actually, I almost get I what want already today without carplay just by connecting my iPhone to the Bluetooth system. The only thing that bothers me is having to long click the home button in my pocket to activate Siri. I would rather have a dedicated button on the steering wheel.
I spent over 10k EURO on Apple products in my life. That's a lot of money. I love my Macs, I love iPad and I love iPhone. I just get impression that some of these products get worse with every iteration. Apple is releasing funny features, that do not do us much. In the meantime I am waiting and waiting Apple to fix some of the core apps, but there's nothing (Mail, Calendar, etc...). Just some UI and make-up features that make things better and in a lot of times worse. Steve's absence is definitely getting more and more visible. And what's about with the iPhone size? Where's the bigger screen? I get envy on my work colleagues when they read email on bigger droid screens. It's really better to have bigger screen for that. I am not saying 5.5 inch here. But 4.5 or 5 could be something that works really well.
Regarding the CarPlay we'll see...
Wow that is a lot of money Macs are expensive (i blame Intel) but they are 100% usefull however iDevices they are not quite as usefull but eventually they will be, this year iOS 8 will probably introduce true multitasking and your in luck if you like bigger screens this year we gonna get a 4.5 inch iPhone, a bigger iPhone next year and later an iPad nano
Apple are good making amazing products but sometimes they are failing at small things but eventually they get it fixed
For all the press it receives, and the early adopters it attracts, Tesla is still only a very small player in the auto industry. That they haven't signed up for CarPlay (yet?) isn't a reason for alarm.
IMO, most people are approaching CarPlay from the wrong angle. It's not an attempt by Apple to take over the car, but merely a deeper, more consistent method of integrating of iOS, and its interface into vehicles. Both Apple and each automaker get to maintain control of their own domains, and the experience they want to present to drivers. Good for both parties.
Apple has signed up an impressive roster, including all the largest marques in Japan, the major Korean maker, and a good portion of American, French, and German marques.
The glaring absences are VAG (who are going from QNX to Android), and Fiat/Chrysler (Microsoft, excluding Ferrari, which operates autonomously, and chose Apple). I'd be more concerned about these two than Tesla.
All I got to say is Tesla, why did you stop selling and producing the roadster???
The Roadster was problematic, virtually all of them were rebuilt by Tesla. The Model S is a superior car. And The Roadsters are avaialble on Tesla's website pre owned if you really like them. I agree they look great, I've seen a few around LA, I drive an 02' Z3M BMW and lust after the Roadster.
I'm still trying to figure out what Elon Musk's mother has to do with this story. O.O
Many cars like the Camaro with MyLink support Siri Eyes Free integration through a steering wheel button. You must have a car that does integrate as well.
CarPlay is NOT a replacement for Siri Eyes Free, but simply adds visual and touch, if you want to interface in that manner.
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IMO, the whole carplay UI is a freaking rare misstep for Apple. Just total shame.
Where the f@ck did the "Eye-Free" concept go? There should be freaking NO visual interface between iOS and the driver. Everything should be voice enabled, from navigation up to a choice of a radio station.
P.S.
Actually, I almost get I what want already today without carplay just by connecting my iPhone to the Bluetooth system. The only thing that bothers me is having to long click the home button in my pocket to activate Siri. I would rather have a dedicated button on the steering wheel.
All I got to say is Tesla, why did you stop selling and producing the roadster???
Two words: previously owned.
Guess I won't be considering a Tesla.
If true, you would be incredibly short sighted to pass on the most revolutionary vehicle in 20 years simply because it did not mirror your iPhone's UI. If that's your only consideration for a car, put some wheels on your iPhone and have a seat.
So what base OS does Tesla use use? So far it seems that Apple has paired with companies that use QNX. What does VW Group use?
Maybe he's Scott Forestall with a lot of virtually represented sour grapes.
Tesla rolled their own. It's based on Linux.
Don't mean this as a pump for CarPlay. (What I've seen so far doesn't exactly blow me away), but Tesla's system is a clusterF...
It's basically 50% driving a car, and 50% screwing around with a computer (As it is, they might as well just get it over with and install a 27 inch display in there). Just way too much interfacing with a computer screen. Even to do the most simple direct task. Basically a car designed by computer geeks, rather than human interface designers.
If only Apple had bought these guys way back when. The Jonny Ive design sensibility would have brought these vehicles up to all that they really could be.
No idea where they will end up, but as it currently stands, they definitely seem to be much more into the Android aesthetic / philosophy.
" He's planning on putting together an SDK for developers to add apps to the Model S which follow their own rules - not Android, not iOS. The car's OS already assigns an app to either the top or bottom half of the screen. CarPlay and Android integration need only be apps to the car, living and sandboxed in their own part of the screen, and it would work just fine without altering the vehicle OS in any way. You'd know that if you spent any time with the Model S."
Yeah. Thanks for further illustrating my point. ClusterF.
Less and less attention to actually driving the car. Great as a computer though. Can't wait till next generation with 21" screen. Woot!
Edit: Don't get me wrong; LOVE the company and the (general) direction they are going.
Just look at that sucker! CarPlay needs to play in that sandbox too.
It never occurred to me to even try to speak a list of different commands to Siri and expect her to go off and complete them. Some commands require user feedback like sending a text, Siri: "Shall I send it?" So you can verify she heard you correctly and is sending the text you want instead of some horrible autocorrected text.
But when I issued two separated commands: 1) "Send Sam a text" 2) "Now show me a map of his house." She did it with no problem.