Rumor: Google pressured Asus to cancel Android/Windows dual-boot devices

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  • Reply 121 of 130
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    gatorguy wrote: »
    I imagine this is a tad galling to Microsoft. It's recommended that Window XP users dump IE and move to a different browser such as Chrome or Firefox after MS discontinues support next month.
    http://www.networkworld.com/news/2014/031114-us-cert-urges-xp-users-to-279601.html?source=NWWNLE_nlt_daily_pm_2014-03-11

    Only had a quick gander, but IE7 still works, right? Over here in NL, many banks discourage the use of XP, but don't disable access.

    As for Chrome, what are the benefits? Is it really 'sending browser usage' back to Google. Is it mandatorily using their 8.8.8.8 DNS servers? I hear they have an incredible large market share,, something like >50%? Is that right? Could that be because it's installed in the background when people upgrade their PDF viewer?
  • Reply 122 of 130
    ws11ws11 Posts: 159member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by snova View Post

     

    I don't think Google had anything to do with this.  Its just a bad product, period.  We have already seen that Windows 8 tablet is a fail. x86 Android tablet with keyboard is just as bad, IMHO.   I don't think Google needed to pressure ASUS to kill this. Google would gain nothing as it would be losing another Android capable Tablet on the market.  Windows 8 tablet w/ keyboard has already proven that it is fail all by itself. x86 in an Android tablet, just makes for weaker value proposition.  Force a keyboard onto the buyer, its even worse.


    The Transformer Book T100 has been a massive success for ASUS.

     

    You know, the x86 Windows 8.1 2-in-1 that ASUS launched last October:

     

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  • Reply 123 of 130
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,088member
    Huawei is also a Google Android licensee, yet announced they'll be offering a dual-boot Android Windows phone next quarter. If Google really does pressure licensees not to do it then for the love of God Huawei should get a personal visit from Larry Page. A dual-boot smartphone sounds more useless than ASUS idea.

    The least Google can do is talk some sense into them. :rolleyes:
    http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/03/dual-boot-phones-the-answer-to-a-question-that-nobody-is-asking/
  • Reply 124 of 130
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    gatorguy wrote: »
    Huawei is also a Google Android licensee, yet announced they'll be offering a dual-boot Android Windows phone next quarter. If Google really does pressure licensees not to do it then for the love of God Huawei should get a personal visit from Larry Page. A dual-boot smartphone sounds more useless than ASUS idea.

    The least Google can do is talk some sense into them. :rolleyes:
    http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/03/dual-boot-phones-the-answer-to-a-question-that-nobody-is-asking/

    But why would you want Google to talk to them? If they really want to stand out of the crowd they could choose to talk to Microsoft instead and have them not make their phones compatible with 'on-screen buttons'. Besides, they won't be booting Android by default, so there's that:
    Shao Yang, Huawei's CMO, told Trusted Reviews that this will make it "easier for people to choose Windows Phone," with Android offering a comfortable fallback position if Windows Phone doesn't work out for them.
  • Reply 125 of 130
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,088member
    philboogie wrote: »
    But why would you want Google to talk to them? If they really want to stand out of the crowd they could choose to talk to Microsoft instead and have them not make their phones compatible with 'on-screen buttons'. Besides, they won't be booting Android by default, so there's that:

    It was meant as a joke Phil.
  • Reply 126 of 130
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    gatorguy wrote: »
    It was meant as a joke Phil.

    In which case the joke's on me 8-)
  • Reply 127 of 130
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,088member
    To add to the story the WSJ is out with news today that Microsoft may have threatened ASUS with pulling their marketing funds if they release that rumored dual-boot tablet. Intel In the meantime is working on a program to sell tablets with [I]no OS installed[/I] and give the buyer the option of picking the one they want after purchase. Yeah, that sounds like it would be much more successful. :err:
  • Reply 128 of 130
    ws11ws11 Posts: 159member
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    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post



    To add to the story the WSJ is out with news today that Microsoft may have threatened ASUS with pulling their marketing funds if they release that rumored dual-boot tablet. Intel In the meantime is working on a program to sell tablets with no OS installed and give the buyer the option of picking the one they want after purchase. Yeah, that sounds like it would be much more successful. image

    What a mess.  I still don't see the advantage to dual booting Android when the device already has a Windows OS running on an Intel Haswell CPU.  ASUS could just as well drop Android and still be able to offer a compelling product (considering it will only cost $599 for the base model).

  • Reply 129 of 130
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    Originally Posted by WS11 View Post

     

    What a mess.  I still don't see the advantage to dual booting Android when the device already has a Windows OS running on an Intel Haswell CPU.  ASUS could just as well drop Android and still be able to offer a compelling product (considering it will only cost $599 for the base model).




    The advantage is for the manufacturer. Apparently they don't believe Windoz is a strong enough reason for people to buy that product. They are adding Android because half of the people in the world could use it and will be familiar with it. If such a product could share files between OSes then that might make it interesting for some people. I can share files between my Mac and my HP running GNU/Linux which makes life easier.

  • Reply 130 of 130
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,088member
    Huh. . .
    So Asus has in fact revealed a hybrid tablet/laptop that uses both Windows and Android, but in an unexpected way.
    http://www.engadget.com/2014/06/02/asus-transformer-book-v-phone/

    http://preview.tinyurl.com/loymzws
    "The Transformer Book V includes a 12.5-inch display (and) features a Windows and Android laptop and tablet as well as an Android smartphone.” As pictured above, the device is essentially a 5-inch smartphone that docks into a larger 12.5-inch tablet that can be used as a laptop in conjunction with an attached keyboard setup. [B][SIZE=4]You’ll also be able to easily switch between Windows 8.1 and Android 4.4[/SIZE][/B]. Specs include up 1TB of storage in laptop mode, 128GB for tablet mode, a 2500mah battery, a 12.5-inch HD IPS display, and next-generation Intel Core CPU. "

    So much for yet another rumor.
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