Have a look at the posts in response to this article and that gives you a good indication of what most people think. Numbers of Samsung phones sold does not make it right! I wager that a lot of people who fell for the hype of a bigger phone will opt for a smaller one next upgrade cycle when they realise the error of their ways... Just MHO...
More analysts pump and dump rhetoric about Apple. However, every time earnings announcements come along, Apple misses its numbers and the share price collapses. Tim Cook is deliberately trying to ruin Apple shareholders with his mystery product pipeline. Nothing ever seems to materialize from it. Apple will come out with a large display iPhone and they'll still continue to lose market share to Android. Apple simply can't sell enough iPhones to satisfy investors. Too many people around the world simply can't afford iPhones and Apple will likely charge more for their new large display iPhones which will cause the iPhone to lose even more market share. It's a vicious cycle meant to ruin Apple shareholders.
When I leave the comfort of AI and go to general mobile forums I find there are some people who say they will leave Samsung et al. for the iPhone if a larger screen is available. Generally these are guys who are agnostic regarding the OS wars and often left iOS because of a bigger screen on other devices. Samsung is not doing it for them these days.
You're saying that these people in general mobile forums are only staying with android phones because of the large screen, and that they would move to iPhone if a large screen was available. Thus they have some reason they dislike android. That means either other hardware features, or the software. If these people dislike the software of android, that doesn't make them OS-agnostic, but rather the reverse: iOS-envious. And I think it's those people precisely whom Apple may win as "switchers" if Apple were to make a larger screen iPhone. But I'm not so sure they will do so.
Secondly, I think calling it an OS-war is a bit hyperbolic. Perhaps in a few limited circles, there is a "war" but I think that's a very small circle indeed. I think most people consider there to be alternatives and choices. The presence of choice does not a "war" make.
Count me among the silent masses that don't want a larger smartphone. The flip side to the "my friends only bought Androids because of the larger screens" argument is the number of consumers that chose NOT to buy an Android phone because the flagship models only come with large screens. The iPhone line remains the only smartphone in the 4" screen size that does not cripple the performance or strip away features in order to fit the smaller form factor. What Apple did with the iPad Air and mini is a great example of how to do this right.
I would hope that Apple keeps the current body configuration intact if they decide to offer a larger screen size. With hundreds of millions of iPhones already out there in the smaller screen sizes, it would be foolish to presume that all those consumers view the smaller screen size as a compromise, rather than a preference.
The current 5c/5s form factor already pushes the limits of easy pocketability and one-handed operation as far as I'm concerned. The Galaxy S series is already too bloated for my uses, and the Note models are ridiculous.
I see people everyday I work switch from an iPhone to a Android device because of the the screen size. Does everyone want a larger screen? No. There are a ton of people who do though. I also see people switch from an Android device to an iPhone as well. Those people usually had one of the cheap Crappie Android phones though and get the free or cheapest iPhone. So that would make sense. There is a huge demand for a larger size as I've had people come back with the larger Android phone and say they'll never go back to a smaller size. Note that they didn't say they wouldn't get an iPhone again. Just that they'll never get a phone of a smaller size.
I've had 4 previous iPhones and I think a bigger screen would be great. I use mine for browsing more than anything. One handed operation, schmone-schmanded-schmoperation! Make it bigger!!!
I've had 4 previous iPhones and I think a bigger screen would be great. I use mine for browsing more than anything. One handed operation, schmone-schmanded-schmoperation! Make it bigger!!!
See, this is what I want. I currently use a larger screen Android. For my needs it's perfect. I will never ever use any of the current size iPhones as they are much too small for me. If Apple does decide to make a bigger screen I'll be one the first to buy one. I'm dying to get my hands on a iOS product of a larger size than currently available. Don't bring up the Mini as that's for a completely different use case for me. I want a all in one. Not two separate devices to lug around.
Apple needs to get over waning the top and bottom bezels to be the same size for symmetry if they are going to continue to use a Home Button on the front.
They have to be symmetric to allow for holding it in landscape. They still have room to keep the symmetry while pushing the display to the edges:
That allows the display to be big enough that the difference between it and the hand brick (4.7") on the right is small enough to not matter and the same hand that can reach the middle of the top-left icon can reach the bottom-right corner.
I think Apple can do it. As an example the MotoX really isn't physically that much larger than the iPhone 5S, but the display is significantly bigger.
So how many sold?
Twenty million, thirty?
Apple don't need such amateur niches.
Not one of these analysts can present Android sales figures broken down by screen size, not one.
One thing is for certain the most popular screen size is the 5c/5s screen size based on the simple fact that these are the biggest selling phone models.
The size Nazis are out again. "No to a big phone!" " If people wanted a bigger phone why would they buy the current iPhone?!" Well I haven't bought a Android b/c I hate the software, so I've been buying iPhones for the software, but NOT the form factor. Don't get me wrong, it's OK, but I'd rather have a 5.5" phone and dump my iPad mini b/c the truth is, it just sits at home most of the time while the iPhone is with me everywhere I go. Now my wife would prefer something smaller so a 4.5" would make sense for her, and that's where these rumors of two phones sound good to me, but all this moaning and groaning from the "faithful" about how they wish they had a 3.5" phone against instead of a bigger one... well don't worry, they'll release an iWatch and you can have your precious small screen but for goodness sake stop trying to dictate what's good for the rest of us!
They have to be symmetric to allow for holding it in landscape. They still have room to keep the symmetry while pushing the display to the edges:
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That allows the display to be big enough that the difference between it and the hand brick (4.7") on the right is small enough to not matter and the same hand that can reach the middle of the top-left icon can reach the bottom-right corner.
1) I assume that's Apple's reasoning but is that really going to affect usability by having the display start 2mm closer to the edge in one hand when holding in portrait mode? My feeling is that it won't affect usability but will affect symmetry.
2) Moving the display closer to the edge might be why Apple has waited. I think they want to make bigger iPhone just as they wanted to add LTE to the iPhone but they aren't going to do it before the technology is ready for them to make a killer product. With LTE that meant waiting for 3rd generation chips that were small and power efficient enough to be feasible, and for a larger display that could be moving the display to the edge, a higher pixel density for the foreseeable future without sacrificing battery life, GPU performance, or backlight brightness, and/or other features.
PS: At 4.7" that's 277.42 PPI. Is that enough for Apple to say it's Retina?
More analysts pump and dump rhetoric about Apple. However, every time earnings announcements come along, Apple misses its numbers and the share price collapses. Tim Cook is deliberately trying to ruin Apple shareholders with his mystery product pipeline. Nothing ever seems to materialize from it. Apple will come out with a large display iPhone and they'll still continue to lose market share to Android. Apple simply can't sell enough iPhones to satisfy investors. Too many people around the world simply can't afford iPhones and Apple will likely charge more for their new large display iPhones which will cause the iPhone to lose even more market share. It's a vicious cycle meant to ruin Apple shareholders.
Hahaha!
Up $4.
Anyone who bought in at $700 was sucker played by the same analysts presenting the same crap an example of which is the premise of this article.
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Have a look at the posts in response to this article and that gives you a good indication of what most people think. Numbers of Samsung phones sold does not make it right! I wager that a lot of people who fell for the hype of a bigger phone will opt for a smaller one next upgrade cycle when they realise the error of their ways... Just MHO...
I think that 3.5 inches is the perfect size. I can use the phone with one hand, and this is a dealbreaker if I can't.
And I can barely fit it in my pocket as it is. Any larger, and no deal.
Those big screens don't really sell well anyways.
More analysts pump and dump rhetoric about Apple. However, every time earnings announcements come along, Apple misses its numbers and the share price collapses. Tim Cook is deliberately trying to ruin Apple shareholders with his mystery product pipeline. Nothing ever seems to materialize from it. Apple will come out with a large display iPhone and they'll still continue to lose market share to Android. Apple simply can't sell enough iPhones to satisfy investors. Too many people around the world simply can't afford iPhones and Apple will likely charge more for their new large display iPhones which will cause the iPhone to lose even more market share. It's a vicious cycle meant to ruin Apple shareholders.
When I leave the comfort of AI and go to general mobile forums I find there are some people who say they will leave Samsung et al. for the iPhone if a larger screen is available. Generally these are guys who are agnostic regarding the OS wars and often left iOS because of a bigger screen on other devices. Samsung is not doing it for them these days.
You're saying that these people in general mobile forums are only staying with android phones because of the large screen, and that they would move to iPhone if a large screen was available. Thus they have some reason they dislike android. That means either other hardware features, or the software. If these people dislike the software of android, that doesn't make them OS-agnostic, but rather the reverse: iOS-envious. And I think it's those people precisely whom Apple may win as "switchers" if Apple were to make a larger screen iPhone. But I'm not so sure they will do so.
Secondly, I think calling it an OS-war is a bit hyperbolic. Perhaps in a few limited circles, there is a "war" but I think that's a very small circle indeed. I think most people consider there to be alternatives and choices. The presence of choice does not a "war" make.
1) Fixed that for you.
2) If you honestly felt that way you would have sold your stock by now. In fact, you never would have bought it for $700 in the first place.
Count me among the silent masses that don't want a larger smartphone. The flip side to the "my friends only bought Androids because of the larger screens" argument is the number of consumers that chose NOT to buy an Android phone because the flagship models only come with large screens. The iPhone line remains the only smartphone in the 4" screen size that does not cripple the performance or strip away features in order to fit the smaller form factor. What Apple did with the iPad Air and mini is a great example of how to do this right.
I would hope that Apple keeps the current body configuration intact if they decide to offer a larger screen size. With hundreds of millions of iPhones already out there in the smaller screen sizes, it would be foolish to presume that all those consumers view the smaller screen size as a compromise, rather than a preference.
The current 5c/5s form factor already pushes the limits of easy pocketability and one-handed operation as far as I'm concerned. The Galaxy S series is already too bloated for my uses, and the Note models are ridiculous.
Come October: Apple fails to release larger screen iPhone, AAPL falls, Apple is doomed! The cycle repeats
Samsung was ridiculized on this pages for introducing a 7" tablet, now the 7" iPad is a best-selling product.
A 5" iPhone, possibly with a nearly edge-to-edge screen, in my opinion would be the new best-selling product.
If not a larger screen then what?
Where can Apple go with its design to attract more sales?
I think the mix of 5s and 5c is as good as it gets if Apple sticks with 4 inch phones.
Well, maybe not. Something better than the 5c might bump it up a bit... but then I think it really hits a ceiling.
See, this is what I want. I currently use a larger screen Android. For my needs it's perfect. I will never ever use any of the current size iPhones as they are much too small for me. If Apple does decide to make a bigger screen I'll be one the first to buy one. I'm dying to get my hands on a iOS product of a larger size than currently available. Don't bring up the Mini as that's for a completely different use case for me. I want a all in one. Not two separate devices to lug around.
1. Rightly so, as 7” is worthless.
2. The iPad mini is not 7”.
3. Who says it’s the best-selling product?
4. It’s still too small to be usable.
Others would disagree that 7-8" tablets are too small to be usable. You should of said too small to be usable for you.
They have to be symmetric to allow for holding it in landscape. They still have room to keep the symmetry while pushing the display to the edges:
That allows the display to be big enough that the difference between it and the hand brick (4.7") on the right is small enough to not matter and the same hand that can reach the middle of the top-left icon can reach the bottom-right corner.
I think Apple can do it. As an example the MotoX really isn't physically that much larger than the iPhone 5S, but the display is significantly bigger.
So how many sold?
Twenty million, thirty?
Apple don't need such amateur niches.
Not one of these analysts can present Android sales figures broken down by screen size, not one.
One thing is for certain the most popular screen size is the 5c/5s screen size based on the simple fact that these are the biggest selling phone models.
The size Nazis are out again. "No to a big phone!" " If people wanted a bigger phone why would they buy the current iPhone?!" Well I haven't bought a Android b/c I hate the software, so I've been buying iPhones for the software, but NOT the form factor. Don't get me wrong, it's OK, but I'd rather have a 5.5" phone and dump my iPad mini b/c the truth is, it just sits at home most of the time while the iPhone is with me everywhere I go. Now my wife would prefer something smaller so a 4.5" would make sense for her, and that's where these rumors of two phones sound good to me, but all this moaning and groaning from the "faithful" about how they wish they had a 3.5" phone against instead of a bigger one... well don't worry, they'll release an iWatch and you can have your precious small screen but for goodness sake stop trying to dictate what's good for the rest of us!
1) I assume that's Apple's reasoning but is that really going to affect usability by having the display start 2mm closer to the edge in one hand when holding in portrait mode? My feeling is that it won't affect usability but will affect symmetry.
2) Moving the display closer to the edge might be why Apple has waited. I think they want to make bigger iPhone just as they wanted to add LTE to the iPhone but they aren't going to do it before the technology is ready for them to make a killer product. With LTE that meant waiting for 3rd generation chips that were small and power efficient enough to be feasible, and for a larger display that could be moving the display to the edge, a higher pixel density for the foreseeable future without sacrificing battery life, GPU performance, or backlight brightness, and/or other features.
PS: At 4.7" that's 277.42 PPI. Is that enough for Apple to say it's Retina?
More analysts pump and dump rhetoric about Apple. However, every time earnings announcements come along, Apple misses its numbers and the share price collapses. Tim Cook is deliberately trying to ruin Apple shareholders with his mystery product pipeline. Nothing ever seems to materialize from it. Apple will come out with a large display iPhone and they'll still continue to lose market share to Android. Apple simply can't sell enough iPhones to satisfy investors. Too many people around the world simply can't afford iPhones and Apple will likely charge more for their new large display iPhones which will cause the iPhone to lose even more market share. It's a vicious cycle meant to ruin Apple shareholders.
Hahaha!
Up $4.
Anyone who bought in at $700 was sucker played by the same analysts presenting the same crap an example of which is the premise of this article.