New Samsung Galaxy S5 ad forced to cherry pick lines from lackluster reviews

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  • Reply 61 of 86
    analogjackanalogjack Posts: 1,073member

    New Samsung Galaxy S5 ad.

     

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     Astounding, breakthrough design...




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     I've never seen any phone operate with this level of responsiveness...




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     Incredibly clever use of technology...


     

    Yes, these are some of the things that reviewers were not saying about the Samsung Galaxy S5

     

    Apologies to Monty Python.

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  • Reply 62 of 86
    cpsrocpsro Posts: 3,285member
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    Originally Posted by whoda View Post



    Man that phone is huge. I guess I'd better get used to it though, since it looks like Apple is going to make us upgrade to a giant screen.

    The Galaxy displays are not just big, they're gaudy.  Samsung displays blow out color in an effort to appeal to an adolescent mentality (their own ;)).

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  • Reply 63 of 86
    frood wrote: »
    There's even more to this Daniel may have uncovered.  In his cherry picking of negative comments from Samsung reviews in his expose of Samsung cherry picking positive comments from Samsung reviews Daniel may have come across something bigger.

    I'll keep you posted on my research but its looking an awful lot like companies everywhere that rely on reviews are doing this en masse.  Samsung just copied them!  Seriously.  Look for yourself.  Automobiles.  Movies.  Hotels.   In their marketting materials they are only cherry picking items from the positive comments that promote their products!  This is highly misleading!

    Truly?

    I thought it was a reviewers job to list both pro's and cons if they were to be taken seriously even in the remote sense. I've also very rarely, though I have, seen someone who professionally writes reviews write a single line as an actual review.

    Personally, when I'm researching a product I plan on purchasing I look for the longest most thought out review possible and if there are no negatives listed I consider it a paid or biased review. Then I look for another 10 or twenty reviews. Of course a 15 or 30 second television ad is going to cherry pick quotes.

    I realize this is a heavily biased site, but I find it interesting that people are shocked. ...including the whole purpose of the actual "editorial".
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  • Reply 64 of 86
    chez whiteychez whitey Posts: 148member
    whoda wrote: »
    Man that phone is huge. I guess I'd better get used to it though, since it looks like Apple is going to make us upgrade to a giant screen.

    My wife & most her GFs defected from Apple to Note 3s, going to be hard to get them back,
    Apple a little late to the phablet game but not too late, hoping big iPhone rumors are true.

    Want to buy my previously enjoyed 5s?
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  • Reply 65 of 86
    mstone wrote: »
    As noted by many of the reviewers, the Galaxy S5 is not as good as an iPhone, so I wondered what the brand retention figures looked like. I found this survey by WDS (a Xerox Company) http://www.wds.co/apple-samsung-vs-rest/


    <img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="42810" data-type="61" src="http://forums.appleinsider.com/content/type/61/id/42810/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 476px; height: 146px">




    Then I started speculating on how these numbers made sense. I thought in both cases the brand retention percentages would be improved by ecosystem commitments such as apps purchased, etc. It has been mentioned around this forum that iOS users buy more apps, music, movies, etc. than Android users so that trend would probably improve Apple's brand retention. Samsung's brand retention numbers are most likely not affected as much by ecosystem.

    When considering the other survey data point of migration, it shows Samsung has better numbers than Apple. I was wondering if possibly this is due to people upgrading from some old feature phone to some new Samsung feature phone or low priced smartphone and not necessarily to the Galaxy. Although, to be fair, Apple does offer a couple inexpensive options for upgrading feature phone users on a budget, but not as much as Samsung.

    It is unclear how many premium iPhone users switch to Galaxy or vise versa, but some may, simply to get a larger screen. With the rumored larger iPhone in the works, I wonder how many former iPhone users will switch back and how many loyal Galaxy users will jump ship to iOS. I think that people tend to get used to whatever they have been using, especially when it come to a larger screen.

    It is sort of like when you get used to a big comfortable car, you probably aren't going to like driving a compact car, like as a rental or whatever. The reverse is also true too though. For example when Porsche introduced the Cayenne SUV, Porsche purists were angry and hated it, but it is a really nice SUV, if that is what you like. Similarly, I think Apple will keep a premium 4" phone when they introduce the larger screen model. Personally, I like SUVs and I will most likely appreciate a larger iPhone as well, as long as it isn't like an 18 wheeler.       

    Just going by my personal social circle, there's just some people that have some strange non-tangible hatred or dislike for Apple. When I ask them why I usually get very dismissive answers. Some will buy an iPad, but absolutely refuse to buy an iPhone or Mac. I don't believe there's a single study that can quantify WHY people don't purchase Apple devices. I've heard more excuses than I can remember, and I absolutely try not to sound like a "fan" on purpose when asking. Honestly I'm completely indifferent as long as my stuff works, which it does. After all, why would I care what someone else uses?

    As far as switching for a larger phone, I can completely understand that. I've also had people tell me that they would rather have a larger phone than both a phone and a tablet.

    However one thing I noticed when upgrading from an iPhone 4 to a 5s is I put it down and leave it on a surface most of the time because it is bigger. Previously I had a hip holster for the phone and it was unobtrusive. The slight difference in size made the 5s is a hell of a lot more obtrusive at least for me, and to me, that's all that matters. So there it sits on a desk or coffee table all the time... So much for the M7 chip... If Apple came out with a watch with an M7 chip that charged over wifi and synced with the phone or iPad I would buy it's soon as it was available.

    Something tells me Apple understands that a larger phone will lay flat a lot more, and in order for the new health wave to actually matter they may NEED an iWatch or whatever to keep things paired and useful. Only my thought though.

    I kind of went off topic. As for switchers, I can understand the larger screen switchers if it's to combine two devices. I personally know people with a ton of paid apps on an iPad, but have android phones. I only know a couple people with Windows phones, and they're generally much, much older than I am.
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  • Reply 66 of 86
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    crowley wrote: »
    Can't we just spin these hit pieces off into an Anti-Samsung blog? They're about as interesting and insightful as a headline about the sky being blue.

    P.S. I'd quite like an Ultra Power Saving Mode on my iPhone. Damn good idea from Samsung.

    Turn everything off except 2G, voice and text.
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  • Reply 67 of 86
    djkikromedjkikrome Posts: 189member
    That's funny. Thanks for the article with full reviews. Very interesting.
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  • Reply 68 of 86
    hill60 wrote: »
    Turn everything off except 2G, voice and text.

    O.k. I know you're being sarcastic, but is there a way Apple could implement this?

    I use my phone on probably just a higher level than a "feature phone". I make a call here and there, text here and there, use a few apps. My iPhone battery usually lasts for two or three days. If they had a button (software or hardware) that I could press before I went to bed, or when I wasn't thinking to use anything stressful would it prolong my battery life? Perhaps out to a week at a time?

    Honestly I don't know if my three day top battery life is all it could do software wise, of if I could shut things down to prolong the battery life. Having an iPad and a Mac makes it less necessary to only use my phone. However I can't stop wondering why I need LTE all the time if my phone is just sitting there.

    In one Keynote Phil stated that "While the radios are fired up, we can have the phone update apps in the background." (Rough quote from memory), does that mean they are not running all the time? How is Samsung accomplishing this if they are always running all the time.

    Joking about it is fun, but would it actually have an effect? I truly don't know how this works. I'll research it, but I've limited time to do so.
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  • Reply 69 of 86
    iaeeniaeen Posts: 588member
    O.k. I know you're being sarcastic, but is there a way Apple could implement this?
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    Joking about it is fun, but would it actually have an effect? I truly don't know how this works. I'll research it, but I've limited time to do so.

    It's not sarcasm. Powering Bluetooth/wifi/LTE antennas takes power. If you shut them off and force quit all the apps running in the background you will extend your battery life. That's essentially all this "ultra power saving mode" is, and hill60 is exactly right in pointing out that you can already mimic this functionality on the iPhone.
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  • Reply 70 of 86
    djkikrome wrote: »
    That's funny. Thanks for the article with full reviews. Very interesting.

    You know that you can still read the ACTUAL and FULL reviews right where the "editorial" author listed them right?
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  • Reply 71 of 86
    iaeen wrote: »
    It's not sarcasm. Powering Bluetooth/wifi/LTE antennas takes power. If you shut them off and force quit all the apps running in the background you will extend your battery life. That's essentially all this "ultra power saving mode" is, and hill60 is exactly right in pointing out that you can already mimic this functionality on the iPhone.

    Thank you for the response.

    So you confirmed for me that it's possible at least. Is there a button for it on my phone?

    My point is, if my phone can already do this how complicated are the steps to achieve this result?

    If it's possible and easy please do share.
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  • Reply 72 of 86
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    O.k. I know you're being sarcastic, but is there a way Apple could implement this?

    I use my phone on probably just a higher level than a "feature phone". I make a call here and there, text here and there, use a few apps. My iPhone battery usually lasts for two or three days. If they had a button (software or hardware) that I could press before I went to bed, or when I wasn't thinking to use anything stressful would it prolong my battery life? Perhaps out to a week at a time?

    Honestly I don't know if my three day top battery life is all it could do software wise, of if I could shut things down to prolong the battery life. Having an iPad and a Mac makes it less necessary to only use my phone. However I can't stop wondering why I need LTE all the time if my phone is just sitting there.

    In one Keynote Phil stated that "While the radios are fired up, we can have the phone update apps in the background." (Rough quote from memory), does that mean they are not running all the time? How is Samsung accomplishing this if they are always running all the time.

    Joking about it is fun, but would it actually have an effect? I truly don't know how this works. I'll research it, but I've limited time to do so.

    Not being sarcastic explaining how Samsung's implementation works.
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  • Reply 73 of 86
    Sorry I thought you were being sarcastic. Can I get my iPhone to do that?

    I'm not sure how it works. So doing what you describe, will my phone still ring when I get a call, and will it still alert me to a text or pushed notification?
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  • Reply 74 of 86
    suddenly newtonsuddenly newton Posts: 13,819member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TeaEarleGreyHot View Post

     

    Sammy wants to include a heart-rate sensor? 


     

    There's this new thing called putting your finger on your wrist and counting your pulse with a watch. Since like the 16th century.

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  • Reply 75 of 86

    If you get your tech news from BI, NYT, or USA Today you do not like tech, for honest review from someone whose not a fanboy or hater.....DEDimage 

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  • Reply 76 of 86
    fracfrac Posts: 480member
    frood wrote: »
    sflocal wrote: »
     
    Samsung has zero ethics, but this goes to a whole new level of bottom-feeding.  Someone... anyone... needs to put out a full-page advertisement in all the newspapers and magazines and print DED's article in it verbatim.

     

    There's even more to this Daniel may have uncovered.  In his cherry picking of negative comments from Samsung reviews in his expose of Samsung cherry picking positive comments from Samsung reviews Daniel may have come across something bigger.

    I'll keep you posted on my research but its looking an awful lot like companies everywhere that rely on reviews are doing this en masse.  Samsung just copied them!  Seriously.  Look for yourself.  Automobiles.  Movies.  Hotels.   In their marketting materials they are only cherry picking items from the positive comments that promote their products!  This is highly misleading!

    So true. I remember picking up a sci fi best seller in a s/hand book store some years ago. It quoted a review by Anthony Burgess "...the best that science fiction offers" whereas the actual review said "If this is the best that science fiction can offer, then ...." + withering comments about the genre. It's a well trodden path to catch undescriminating buyers.
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  • Reply 77 of 86
    ultimatistultimatist Posts: 26member
    Who on earth was in charge of selecting the music for this commercial??
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  • Reply 78 of 86
    Wow, what a load of crop. My family has 5 lines of service. My oldest son has the iPhone 5s my youngest the s5.Both are good phones but the s5 is better in my opinion. Larger screen, seems faster,and not having to buy a special case to keep it from getting wet is a plus. My son has no problem with the finger sensor. So go ahead and pile on . I getting my s5 now.
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  • Reply 79 of 86
    euphoniouseuphonious Posts: 303member

    Dilger, I would mention the irony of you complaining about Samsung cherry-picking the good bits of reviews whilst simultaneously cherry-picking the bad bits.

     

    But the bigger question is why you have written another article about Samsung phones at all. Why don't you write something insightful about Apple rather than taking more cheap shots at Samsung? What is the reason for your obsession with Samsung? These pieces really are just fanboyesque dribble.

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  • Reply 80 of 86
    My children have the Samsung s5 and the iPhone 5s I have played with both and I'm going to get my s5 today. Larger screen, faster and I don't need to buy a special case to keep it from getting wet. Also my son hasn't had any problems with the finger sensor. Both are great phones I just like the s5 better.
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