As it's been noted ad nauseam pretty much everything in some general form comes to all other HW, SW and services before it Apple releases it. Apple, however, perfects it to a point that the UX is excellent before it releases it. This is why Apple wasn't the first with a fingerprint scanner or the first with cut/copy/paste or the first with a plethora of other poorly integrated fathers that only appeal to douchebags that like to masturbate to spec sheets.
Android had intents and notifications done right basically from the start. Still, does the Apple Polish (tm) make stealing things okay? Why are Apple fans always at war with Samsung, which is guilty of the same thing (even if they kinda suck at it)?
Honestly, I am happy that iOS gained these features - but the hypocrisy of the fans pisses me off.
Android had intents and notifications done right basically from the start. Still, does the Apple Polish (tm) make stealing things okay? Why are Apple fans always at war with Samsung, which is guilty of the same thing (even if they kinda suck at it)?
Honestly, I am happy that iOS gained these features - but the hypocrisy of the fans pisses me off.
None of that was on Android before other OSes that arrived up to decades earlier. Your iOS-did-it-after-Android-therefore-Android-did-it-before-everyone-else is absurd logic.
My point still stands; these features were on Android first. Considering how passionate Apple fans are about ripping off, I thought I'd point out the irony.
Android, in is present form, exists because of iOs.
BTW, drinking the Kool-Aid would mean I don't think Apple could possibly have any security issues yet I clearly showed concern that allowing a 3rd-party to have access to all your keystrokes on a system is an issue. I use 1Password on my iPhone and DO NOT want any 3rd-party keyboard app being able to tell what I'm typing in to unlock my 1P database. Perhaps you should start looking at these issues as a rational and objective viewer, and not take a stance as an anti-Apple, pro-Android troll.
Those at risk were "anyone pirating Swiftkey"
Absolutely, Android has a security problem when you install from pirated sources and Chinese and Russian App store.
It's not a problem if you don't go in and alter Android's default security settings and features. I would not be worried about Apple's implementation, as this was not a real threat for even Android.
Is the file system now exposed to apps? I missed that. And you still can't use a 3rd party keyboard. The iOS8 keyboard is essentially the Google Keyboard (sans swiping), not the ability to replace it with a better keyboard (Swiftkey, KeePass Keyboard with userId/Password of selected entry, Swype, Minuum etc.)
Considering they demoed it with Swiftkey directly on the screen... it"s obvious you weren't paying attention... as always.
Yes.... there will be 3rd Party keyboards available.
@Soli - and did you also miss when Craig said that the keyboards could be used "per-app" and with other functionality seriously limited, unless you choose to do otherwise (he mentioned contact access as an example).
None of that was on Android before other OSes that arrived up to decades earlier. Your iOS-did-it-after-Android-therefore-Android-did-it-before-everyone-else is absurd logic.
Do you want me to start listing all the iPhone tech that appeared before the iPhone? Slide to unlock in a Neonode phone? Palm devices? Windows Mobile?
My point still stands; these features were on Android first. Considering how passionate Apple fans are about ripping off, I thought I'd point out the irony.
Please feel free to show all the patents covering these features. You can't rip something off that isn't patented/protected. There are a gazillion ideas/features in computers that everyone uses and have been around for ages.
Apple only accuses people of "ripping" off something they patented. Huge difference, which apparently you and several others can't seem to grasp.
Is the file system now exposed to apps? I missed that. And you still can't use a 3rd party keyboard. The iOS8 keyboard is essentially the Google Keyboard (sans swiping), not the ability to replace it with a better keyboard (Swiftkey, KeePass Keyboard with userId/Password of selected entry, Swype, Minuum etc.)
Did you watch the keynote?
You can access iCloud from within apps, open (compatible) documents from different apps in the current app, etc.
Also, the TITLE of this thread includes the words "third-party keyboards", which were also demoed. iOS 8's default keyboard is a whole other topic.
Those at risk were "<em style="color:rgb(0,0,0);margin:0px;padding:0px;text-align:justify;">anyone pirating Swiftkey</em> " Absolutely, Android has a security problem when you install from pirated sources and Chinese and Russian App store.
It's not a problem if you don't go in and alter Android's default security settings and features. I would not be worried about Apple's implementation, as this was not a real threat for even Android.
All Google Play and side loaded apps, the way we're constantly told around here that apps are so much better than the App Store because they aren't curated, are at risk because there is no method for keeping the user safe. Even Apple with their strict methodology has trouble keeping it secure because of the number of developers, apps, app updates, and infinite ways in which malicious code — by a developer — can be hid inside an app undetected. Your claims that there are no Android apps that aren't doing exactly what the customer expects of them is absolute fucking bullshit and you know it.
Please feel free to show all the patents covering these features. You can't rip something off that isn't patented/protected. There are a gazillion ideas/features in computers that everyone uses and have been around for ages.
Apple only accuses people of "ripping" off something they patented. Huge difference, which apparently you and several others can't seem to grasp.
I am more interested in Apple fans here. You know, the people who called Android Wear a rip off of the non-existent iWatch.
Apple itself as a company really doesn't even sue anyone other than Samsung anymore - they made deals with everyone else. And while I don't really agree with how software patents work, it's better than 'thermonuclear war'.
Do you want me to start listing all the iPhone tech that appeared before the iPhone? Slide to unlock in a Neonode phone? Palm devices? Windows Mobile?
Go right ahead and show us all the IP that existed for a multi-tocuh capacitance touchscreen device that existed before the iPhone. Note that Neonode was references in Apple's patent the same way a patent for modern LED bulb might reference a 100 year old light bulb patent. Also, I don't recall the N1 having a slide to UNLOCK feature.
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If you were correct, you’d be able to post proof.
You’re not. You can’t. There isn’t. Seems pretty simple to understand. Not sure why only morons seem to miss it.
As it's been noted ad nauseam pretty much everything in some general form comes to all other HW, SW and services before it Apple releases it. Apple, however, perfects it to a point that the UX is excellent before it releases it. This is why Apple wasn't the first with a fingerprint scanner or the first with cut/copy/paste or the first with a plethora of other poorly integrated fathers that only appeal to douchebags that like to masturbate to spec sheets.
Android had intents and notifications done right basically from the start. Still, does the Apple Polish (tm) make stealing things okay? Why are Apple fans always at war with Samsung, which is guilty of the same thing (even if they kinda suck at it)?
Honestly, I am happy that iOS gained these features - but the hypocrisy of the fans pisses me off.
Here we go…
And can I just say I look forward to AdBlock living natively in Safari?
If you were correct, you’d be able to post proof.
You’re not. You can’t. There isn’t. Seems pretty simple to understand. Not sure why only morons seem to miss it.
I'm just not bothering with proving anything to you because it is futile. You have gone beyond the event horizon of an Apple logo-shaped black hole.
None of that was on Android before other OSes that arrived up to decades earlier. Your iOS-did-it-after-Android-therefore-Android-did-it-before-everyone-else is absurd logic.
My point still stands; these features were on Android first. Considering how passionate Apple fans are about ripping off, I thought I'd point out the irony.
Android, in is present form, exists because of iOs.
BTW, drinking the Kool-Aid would mean I don't think Apple could possibly have any security issues yet I clearly showed concern that allowing a 3rd-party to have access to all your keystrokes on a system is an issue. I use 1Password on my iPhone and DO NOT want any 3rd-party keyboard app being able to tell what I'm typing in to unlock my 1P database. Perhaps you should start looking at these issues as a rational and objective viewer, and not take a stance as an anti-Apple, pro-Android troll.
Those at risk were "anyone pirating Swiftkey"
Absolutely, Android has a security problem when you install from pirated sources and Chinese and Russian App store.
It's not a problem if you don't go in and alter Android's default security settings and features. I would not be worried about Apple's implementation, as this was not a real threat for even Android.
Yes.... there will be 3rd Party keyboards available.
@Soli - and did you also miss when Craig said that the keyboards could be used "per-app" and with other functionality seriously limited, unless you choose to do otherwise (he mentioned contact access as an example).
None of that was on Android before other OSes that arrived up to decades earlier. Your iOS-did-it-after-Android-therefore-Android-did-it-before-everyone-else is absurd logic.
Do you want me to start listing all the iPhone tech that appeared before the iPhone? Slide to unlock in a Neonode phone? Palm devices? Windows Mobile?
Apple only accuses people of "ripping" off something they patented. Huge difference, which apparently you and several others can't seem to grasp.
Surprise surprise the trolls and Fandroids show up. What are you all going to do when people switch back to iOS because of some of these features?
I don't own any Android devices. I watched the keynote on my iPad. I am happy that these changes appeared, but the fans' hypocrisy makes me sad.
Why don't you think about why Apple did that before making yourself look worse than you already do.
Did you watch the keynote?
You can access iCloud from within apps, open (compatible) documents from different apps in the current app, etc.
Also, the TITLE of this thread includes the words "third-party keyboards", which were also demoed. iOS 8's default keyboard is a whole other topic.
All Google Play and side loaded apps, the way we're constantly told around here that apps are so much better than the App Store because they aren't curated, are at risk because there is no method for keeping the user safe. Even Apple with their strict methodology has trouble keeping it secure because of the number of developers, apps, app updates, and infinite ways in which malicious code — by a developer — can be hid inside an app undetected. Your claims that there are no Android apps that aren't doing exactly what the customer expects of them is absolute fucking bullshit and you know it.
Not sure how. I don’t think it’s that kind of extension at all.
Okay. You have absolutely no proof of your claims whatsoever. Thanks for letting us know, and please let the bear traps hit you on the way out.
Please feel free to show all the patents covering these features. You can't rip something off that isn't patented/protected. There are a gazillion ideas/features in computers that everyone uses and have been around for ages.
Apple only accuses people of "ripping" off something they patented. Huge difference, which apparently you and several others can't seem to grasp.
I am more interested in Apple fans here. You know, the people who called Android Wear a rip off of the non-existent iWatch.
Apple itself as a company really doesn't even sue anyone other than Samsung anymore - they made deals with everyone else. And while I don't really agree with how software patents work, it's better than 'thermonuclear war'.
Do you want me to start listing all the iPhone tech that appeared before the iPhone? Slide to unlock in a Neonode phone? Palm devices? Windows Mobile?
Don't forget the Newton... oh, wait.
A lot of the patents Apple is trying so hard to defend were patented back in the 90s, or are related to IP invented back then.
People act like Apple is a newbie in the tech world.
Go right ahead and show us all the IP that existed for a multi-tocuh capacitance touchscreen device that existed before the iPhone. Note that Neonode was references in Apple's patent the same way a patent for modern LED bulb might reference a 100 year old light bulb patent. Also, I don't recall the N1 having a slide to UNLOCK feature.