iOS 8 will bring third-party keyboards, Notification Center widgets, Safari extensions

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  • Reply 21 of 196
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by Ezhik View Post

    And then there's this guy.

     

    If you were correct, you’d be able to post proof.

     

    You’re not. You can’t. There isn’t. Seems pretty simple to understand. Not sure why only morons seem to miss it.

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  • Reply 22 of 196
    ezhikezhik Posts: 101member
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    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post





    As it's been noted ad nauseam pretty much everything in some general form comes to all other HW, SW and services before it Apple releases it. Apple, however, perfects it to a point that the UX is excellent before it releases it. This is why Apple wasn't the first with a fingerprint scanner or the first with cut/copy/paste or the first with a plethora of other poorly integrated fathers that only appeal to douchebags that like to masturbate to spec sheets.

    Android had intents and notifications done right basically from the start. Still, does the Apple Polish (tm) make stealing things okay? Why are Apple fans always at war with Samsung, which is guilty of the same thing (even if they kinda suck at it)?

     

    Honestly, I am happy that iOS gained these features - but the hypocrisy of the fans pisses me off.

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  • Reply 23 of 196
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by Ezhik View Post

    the Apple Polish (tm)

     

    Here we go…

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  • Reply 24 of 196

    And can I just say I look forward to AdBlock living natively in Safari?

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  • Reply 25 of 196
    ezhikezhik Posts: 101member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

     

    If you were correct, you’d be able to post proof.

     

    You’re not. You can’t. There isn’t. Seems pretty simple to understand. Not sure why only morons seem to miss it.


    I'm just not bothering with proving anything to you because it is futile. You have gone beyond the event horizon of an Apple logo-shaped black hole.

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  • Reply 26 of 196
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    ezhik wrote: »
    Android had intents and notifications done right basically from the start. Still, does the Apple Polish (tm) make stealing things okay? Why are Apple fans always at war with Samsung, which is guilty of the same thing (even if they kinda suck at it)?

    Honestly, I am happy that iOS gained these features - but the hypocrisy of the fans pisses me off.

    None of that was on Android before other OSes that arrived up to decades earlier. Your iOS-did-it-after-Android-therefore-Android-did-it-before-everyone-else is absurd logic.
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  • Reply 27 of 196
    ealvarezealvarez Posts: 88member
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    Originally Posted by Ezhik View Post

     

    My point still stands; these features were on Android first. Considering how passionate Apple fans are about ripping off, I thought I'd point out the irony.


    Android, in is present form, exists because of iOs. 

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  • Reply 28 of 196
    nexusphannexusphan Posts: 260member
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    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

     


    BTW, drinking the Kool-Aid would mean I don't think Apple could possibly have any security issues yet I clearly showed concern that allowing a 3rd-party to have access to all your keystrokes on a system is an issue. I use 1Password on my iPhone and DO NOT want any 3rd-party keyboard app being able to tell what I'm typing in to unlock my 1P database. Perhaps you should start looking at these issues as a rational and objective viewer, and not take a stance as an anti-Apple, pro-Android troll.

     

    Those at risk were "anyone pirating Swiftkey"

    Absolutely, Android has a security problem when you install from pirated sources and Chinese and Russian App store.

    It's not a problem if you don't go in and alter Android's default security settings and features. I would not be worried about Apple's implementation, as this was not a real threat for even Android.

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  • Reply 29 of 196
    thepixeldocthepixeldoc Posts: 2,257member
    os2baba wrote: »
    Is the file system now exposed to apps?  I missed that.  And you still can't use a 3rd party keyboard.  The iOS8 keyboard is essentially the Google Keyboard (sans swiping), not the ability to replace it with a better keyboard (Swiftkey, KeePass Keyboard with userId/Password of selected entry, Swype, Minuum etc.)
    Considering they demoed it with Swiftkey directly on the screen... it"s obvious you weren't paying attention... as always.

    Yes.... there will be 3rd Party keyboards available.

    @Soli - and did you also miss when Craig said that the keyboards could be used "per-app" and with other functionality seriously limited, unless you choose to do otherwise (he mentioned contact access as an example).
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  • Reply 30 of 196
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    Surprise surprise the trolls and Fandroids show up. What are you all going to do when people switch back to iOS because of some of these features?
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  • Reply 31 of 196
    ezhikezhik Posts: 101member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post



    None of that was on Android before other OSes that arrived up to decades earlier. Your iOS-did-it-after-Android-therefore-Android-did-it-before-everyone-else is absurd logic.

    Do you want me to start listing all the iPhone tech that appeared before the iPhone? Slide to unlock in a Neonode phone? Palm devices? Windows Mobile? 

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  • Reply 32 of 196
    ericthehalfbeeericthehalfbee Posts: 4,499member
    ezhik wrote: »
    My point still stands; these features were on Android first. Considering how passionate Apple fans are about ripping off, I thought I'd point out the irony.
    Please feel free to show all the patents covering these features. You can't rip something off that isn't patented/protected. There are a gazillion ideas/features in computers that everyone uses and have been around for ages.

    Apple only accuses people of "ripping" off something they patented. Huge difference, which apparently you and several others can't seem to grasp.
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  • Reply 33 of 196
    ezhikezhik Posts: 101member
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    Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post



    Surprise surprise the trolls and Fandroids show up. What are you all going to do when people switch back to iOS because of some of these features?

    I don't own any Android devices. I watched the keynote on my iPad. I am happy that these changes appeared, but the fans' hypocrisy makes me sad.

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  • Reply 34 of 196
    ericthehalfbeeericthehalfbee Posts: 4,499member
    ezhik wrote: »
    Do you want me to start listing all the iPhone tech that appeared before the iPhone? Slide to unlock in a Neonode phone? Palm devices? Windows Mobile? 
    Now you're officially clueless. Apple brought up the Neonode and included the owners manual as a reference in their patent application.

    Why don't you think about why Apple did that before making yourself look worse than you already do.
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  • Reply 35 of 196
    pendergastpendergast Posts: 1,358member
    os2baba wrote: »
    Is the file system now exposed to apps?  I missed that.  And you still can't use a 3rd party keyboard.  The iOS8 keyboard is essentially the Google Keyboard (sans swiping), not the ability to replace it with a better keyboard (Swiftkey, KeePass Keyboard with userId/Password of selected entry, Swype, Minuum etc.)

    Did you watch the keynote?

    You can access iCloud from within apps, open (compatible) documents from different apps in the current app, etc.

    Also, the TITLE of this thread includes the words "third-party keyboards", which were also demoed. iOS 8's default keyboard is a whole other topic.
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  • Reply 36 of 196
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    nexusphan wrote: »
    Those at risk were "<em style="color:rgb(0,0,0);margin:0px;padding:0px;text-align:justify;">anyone pirating Swiftkey</em>
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    Absolutely, Android has a security problem when you install from pirated sources and Chinese and Russian App store.
    It's not a problem if you don't go in and alter Android's default security settings and features. I would not be worried about Apple's implementation, as this was not a real threat for even Android.

    All Google Play and side loaded apps, the way we're constantly told around here that apps are so much better than the App Store because they aren't curated, are at risk because there is no method for keeping the user safe. Even Apple with their strict methodology has trouble keeping it secure because of the number of developers, apps, app updates, and infinite ways in which malicious code — by a developer — can be hid inside an app undetected. Your claims that there are no Android apps that aren't doing exactly what the customer expects of them is absolute fucking bullshit and you know it.
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  • Reply 37 of 196
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by jinglesthula View Post

    And can I just say I look forward to AdBlock living natively in Safari?

     

    Not sure how. I don’t think it’s that kind of extension at all.

     

    Originally Posted by Ezhik View Post

    I'm just not bothering with proving anything to you because it is futile. You have gone beyond the event horizon of an Apple logo-shaped black hole.

     

    Okay. You have absolutely no proof of your claims whatsoever. Thanks for letting us know, and please let the bear traps hit you on the way out.

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  • Reply 38 of 196
    ezhikezhik Posts: 101member
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    Originally Posted by EricTheHalfBee View Post





    Please feel free to show all the patents covering these features. You can't rip something off that isn't patented/protected. There are a gazillion ideas/features in computers that everyone uses and have been around for ages.



    Apple only accuses people of "ripping" off something they patented. Huge difference, which apparently you and several others can't seem to grasp.

    I am more interested in Apple fans here. You know, the people who called Android Wear a rip off of the non-existent iWatch. 

     

    Apple itself as a company really doesn't even sue anyone other than Samsung anymore - they made deals with everyone else. And while I don't really agree with how software patents work, it's better than 'thermonuclear war'. 

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  • Reply 39 of 196
    pendergastpendergast Posts: 1,358member
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    Originally Posted by Ezhik View Post

     

    Do you want me to start listing all the iPhone tech that appeared before the iPhone? Slide to unlock in a Neonode phone? Palm devices? Windows Mobile? 


     

    Don't forget the Newton... oh, wait.

     

    A lot of the patents Apple is trying so hard to defend were patented back in the 90s, or are related to IP invented back then. 

     

    People act like Apple is a newbie in the tech world.

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  • Reply 40 of 196
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    ezhik wrote: »
    Do you want me to start listing all the iPhone tech that appeared before the iPhone? Slide to unlock in a Neonode phone? Palm devices? Windows Mobile? 

    Go right ahead and show us all the IP that existed for a multi-tocuh capacitance touchscreen device that existed before the iPhone. Note that Neonode was references in Apple's patent the same way a patent for modern LED bulb might reference a 100 year old light bulb patent. Also, I don't recall the N1 having a slide to UNLOCK feature.
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