Yeah, must why the vast majority of malware is targeted at Android. Maybe you should stop drinking the Android Kool-Aid.
Android's open, and more popular. Malware comes to silly people who went in their settings, turned off the 'install unapproved apps' feature, pressed "OK" on the warning screen that warned about malware, then got a rogue app, and even though they could clearly see all the permissions the app had, like sending paid sms, still installed it.
If a user ignores every warning sign, then perhaps it's not the OS that is to blame.
Godwin's Law strikes again. Whenever somebody references Hitler/Nazism the rest of their post(s) can be thrown in the trash.
Nah, this is like a reverse Godwin's law. The OP is stating that people who don't share his viewpoint compare Google & M$ to Hitler, thus THEY invoke Godwin's law, and THEIR point is moot and discrediting THEM, not the OP.
These extensions work with other iOS technologies to provide iOS-flavored security.
They will need to share data with various components, not to mention the front most app and its own bundled app.
I think it is more than meet the eyes. Otherwise Apple won't have to wait so long to introduce them. The sessions will likely reveal more.
It is premature to say Apple copy Android. They may evolve from Mac and OSX instead. After all, widgets and extensions are faily old concepts and implementations in System 7.
Again, what does it matter? If Apple and it's users see a value in widgets and "Hey Siri" and 3rd party keyboards then they should offer them. Seems an easy choice. Who cares if the idea came from elsewhere. You really think anyone other than a few fans of one OS or another is going to complain of having optional widgets, optional keyboards or being able to say "Hey Siri" to wake her up? Google ain't suing over any of it nor should anyone else. It all moves tech forward when someone makes even an iterative improvement on an existing feature which is a good thing, right?
No, it's awful to take a desktop concept file system and slap it onto a mobile device. There's nothing inherently wrong with a file system, but they're often not very intuitive and present a complication of average users.
The best thing Apple has done in the last 7 years (IMO) is to make computing devices so accessible for people who aren't considered tech-literate.
Never said Apple should've done that. But when people posted file system concepts, they were treated like files are some horrible 1980 concept that should just go.
Apple have been making computers for the normal people since their very beginning, and I think that's cool. But the fans are quite crazy.
Nah, this is like a reverse Godwin's law. The OP is stating that people who don't share his viewpoint compare Google & M$ to Hitler, thus THEY invoke Godwin's law, and THEIR point is moot and discrediting THEM, not the OP.
Which is kind of a straw man argument?
Well it was supposed to be an example of some terrible terrible terrible thing. If it makes you so upset I can edit it with something else.
So you link to one shitty blog that noone has ever heard of, that says something opposite to that every other respectable publication and verifiable stats that are actually available to check- then you tell people to stop drinking the Koolaid? Fucking hilarious. It's not Apple coming up with these numbers, in case you're confused.
Google ain't suing over any of it nor should anyone else. It all moves tech forward when someone makes even an iterative improvement on an existing feature which is a good thing, right?
Google isn't suing because none of it's patented. I'm still waiting for someone to show me anything in iOS (any version of iOS, not just 8) that was a copy of something another company (like Google/Android) have a patent on. Apple never sued Samsung over some imaginary concepts - they had actual patents that they developed.
This is the logical fallacy with people saying Apple and their fans are hypocrites when Apple adds a new feature that previously existed. They list things Apple has added that have been around forever and aren't owned by anyone yet completely ignore that Apple only accuses people of theft when they have an actual patent in place. There's no hypocrisy involved.
Again, what does it matter? If Apple and it's users see a value in widgets and "Hey Siri" and 3rd party keyboards then they should offer them. Seems an easy choice. Who cares if the idea came from elsewhere. You really think anyone other than a few fans of one OS or another is going to complain of having optional widgets, optional keyboards or being able to say "Hey Siri" to wake her up? Google ain't suing over any of it nor should anyone else. It all moves tech forward when someone makes even an iterative improvement on an existing feature which is a good thing, right?
It matters to set the history straight. Credits where credits are due.
Advancing technologies is great but it doesn't mean people can accuse Apple for copying Android for some random argument.
We should be able to learn more about how iOS parts fit together in WWDC.
Optional keyboard, widgets and Hey Siri may not be important individually, but putting them together, it will speak about Apple's approach, direction, and overall experiences.
The way they highlight OSX, iOS and dev platform, Swift itself sounds like a third platform for Apple too.
Android had intents and notifications done right basically from the start. Still, does the Apple Polish (tm) make stealing things okay? Why are Apple fans always at war with Samsung, which is guilty of the same thing (even if they kinda suck at it)?
Honestly, I am happy that iOS gained these features - but the hypocrisy of the fans pisses me off.
Apple had Services and other forms of inter-app communication since before iOS and Android even existed. Widgets have existed in OS X since Tiger. There are things that have been adopted from Android but Android took quite a bit more from iOS, especially in the early days.
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Yeah, must why the vast majority of malware is targeted at Android. Maybe you should stop drinking the Android Kool-Aid.
Android's open, and more popular. Malware comes to silly people who went in their settings, turned off the 'install unapproved apps' feature, pressed "OK" on the warning screen that warned about malware, then got a rogue app, and even though they could clearly see all the permissions the app had, like sending paid sms, still installed it.
If a user ignores every warning sign, then perhaps it's not the OS that is to blame.
Godwin's Law strikes again. Whenever somebody references Hitler/Nazism the rest of their post(s) can be thrown in the trash.
Nah, this is like a reverse Godwin's law. The OP is stating that people who don't share his viewpoint compare Google & M$ to Hitler, thus THEY invoke Godwin's law, and THEIR point is moot and discrediting THEM, not the OP.
Which is kind of a straw man argument?
Again, what does it matter? If Apple and it's users see a value in widgets and "Hey Siri" and 3rd party keyboards then they should offer them. Seems an easy choice. Who cares if the idea came from elsewhere. You really think anyone other than a few fans of one OS or another is going to complain of having optional widgets, optional keyboards or being able to say "Hey Siri" to wake her up? Google ain't suing over any of it nor should anyone else. It all moves tech forward when someone makes even an iterative improvement on an existing feature which is a good thing, right?
HOW ON EARTH is anyone still ignorant enough to believe this?!
Which explains why iOS is used more, huh.
If a user ignores every warning sign, then perhaps it's not the OS that is to blame.
If the OS is designed to ignore every warning…
No, it's awful to take a desktop concept file system and slap it onto a mobile device. There's nothing inherently wrong with a file system, but they're often not very intuitive and present a complication of average users.
The best thing Apple has done in the last 7 years (IMO) is to make computing devices so accessible for people who aren't considered tech-literate.
Never said Apple should've done that. But when people posted file system concepts, they were treated like files are some horrible 1980 concept that should just go.
Apple have been making computers for the normal people since their very beginning, and I think that's cool. But the fans are quite crazy.
Nah, this is like a reverse Godwin's law. The OP is stating that people who don't share his viewpoint compare Google & M$ to Hitler, thus THEY invoke Godwin's law, and THEIR point is moot and discrediting THEM, not the OP.
Which is kind of a straw man argument?
Well it was supposed to be an example of some terrible terrible terrible thing. If it makes you so upset I can edit it with something else.
You really gotta stop drinking that Apple Kool-aid.
http://qz.com/131436/contrary-to-what-youve-heard-android-is-almost-impenetrable-to-malware/
So you link to one shitty blog that noone has ever heard of, that says something opposite to that every other respectable publication and verifiable stats that are actually available to check- then you tell people to stop drinking the Koolaid? Fucking hilarious. It's not Apple coming up with these numbers, in case you're confused.
LOL, HP-150. Worst Fandroid talking point attempt ever?
Well it was supposed to be an example of some terrible terrible terrible thing. If it makes you so upset I can edit it with something else.
I'm not upset, why would I be upset? Capitalization is only for emphasis.
Google ain't suing over any of it nor should anyone else. It all moves tech forward when someone makes even an iterative improvement on an existing feature which is a good thing, right?
Google isn't suing because none of it's patented. I'm still waiting for someone to show me anything in iOS (any version of iOS, not just 8) that was a copy of something another company (like Google/Android) have a patent on. Apple never sued Samsung over some imaginary concepts - they had actual patents that they developed.
This is the logical fallacy with people saying Apple and their fans are hypocrites when Apple adds a new feature that previously existed. They list things Apple has added that have been around forever and aren't owned by anyone yet completely ignore that Apple only accuses people of theft when they have an actual patent in place. There's no hypocrisy involved.
The same reason a thousand other Fandroids are: missionary work.
LOL, HP-150. Worst Fandroid talking point attempt ever?
Two can play at the "name an obscure device from the dark past that did something an iPhone does today" game.
Plus didn't I already say that I don't own any Android devices?
It matters to set the history straight. Credits where credits are due.
Advancing technologies is great but it doesn't mean people can accuse Apple for copying Android for some random argument.
We should be able to learn more about how iOS parts fit together in WWDC.
Optional keyboard, widgets and Hey Siri may not be important individually, but putting them together, it will speak about Apple's approach, direction, and overall experiences.
The way they highlight OSX, iOS and dev platform, Swift itself sounds like a third platform for Apple too.
Yes. Yes they did.
Yes. Yes they did.
Nope.
Ha!
I look to the forums and what do I see,
Comin’ here to stir up some crap…
I see posts supporting Apple, and all of them free,
Comin’ here to stir up some crap…
Give dough (give dough) and I’ll spread your FUD,
Give enough and I’ll work from hoooome…
Give dough (give dough) and I’ll spread your FUD,
Give enough and I’ll work from hoooome…
GOTTA GET THAT $0.50 PER POST!
Yep.
Maybe next time you'll take the 12 seconds to research it before making yourself look like an idiot.
I hope they have worked out the security issues that plague 3rd-party system-wide keyboards. Android definitely hasn't.
They specifically noted that third party keyboards would require explicit user authorization for network access.
Android had intents and notifications done right basically from the start. Still, does the Apple Polish (tm) make stealing things okay? Why are Apple fans always at war with Samsung, which is guilty of the same thing (even if they kinda suck at it)?
Honestly, I am happy that iOS gained these features - but the hypocrisy of the fans pisses me off.
Apple had Services and other forms of inter-app communication since before iOS and Android even existed. Widgets have existed in OS X since Tiger. There are things that have been adopted from Android but Android took quite a bit more from iOS, especially in the early days.
Yep.
Maybe next time you'll take the 12 seconds to research it before making yourself look like an idiot.
Or you could just open the Neonode article on Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neonode